Wandering Star
The Living Force
The doctrine he preaches may have dire consequences for some.
John DeSouza and "The Extra-Dimensionals"
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Wandering Star
The Living Force
That is my feeling since I started reading.
I was thinking about COVID too, but a bit further back.. and how it went in the exact opposite direction that they were hoping for initially. I wonder if all this design to raise the awareness to the point of a generalized population knowing about the existence of aliens, without an overt hollywoodesque invasion, could backfire on them.
-In the Travis Walton chapter, the dude is said to be accidentally fried by UFO plasma when it was taking off, and then taken on board and healed. This testimony is all taken as fact, despite Desouza's knowledge of screen memories that can be used on multiple witnesses.
-In his chapter on Signatures and Shifts, he makes the case that a serial criminal has a signature. That's not always the case, though - successful psychopaths are able to hide quite well. They're cunning. So maybe they don't leave a signature at all.
He states that there is a consistent signature to abduction scenarios, and that Walton's 'healing' amounts to a change in the signature, which is an indication that there will be a major shift in hyperdimensional activity on the planet. That seems like quite a leap to me. It's like saying, once upon a time, aliens handed out some buckwheat pancakes, so prepare, ye awakened ones, for this portends an exciting new future for the human race.
Maybe there is a general signature to abductions. But as was written about in High Strangeness, there's a possibility is that this signature is the result of a mass mind-control project, broadcast through the 'charged atmospheric cavity' mentioned by Dolan in order to hide the truth of abductions. So the apparent signature of the crime is hard to actually distinguish from the noise, hiding the real signal.
-In The Doctrine of Diminishing Returns he makes the case that no one should become a whistleblower, from which I infer that no one with access to classified material should come forwards. In that context, I wonder what he thinks of his own books and interviews? Is this his way of 'taking care of each other in the Awakened Community?' I can't tell if its basic strategic enclosure or a recipe for an echo chamber.
-I found the Dome of Entropy concept to be interesting, a dome of physical decay that actually protects us from 4D STS. Strange to think of entropy as a protective force! But I think he's a bit off in what he says. Aren't 4d STS the overlords of entropy? Set on increasing it and feed on its effects?
It's unclear to me whether the C's have mentioned anything about 4D STS having no 'silver thread' as he claims. From a recent session where there was a question about evil dudes in the afterlife, it does sound like they go to 5D, and I think the silver thread is the only way to get there, no?
- His chapter on Gateway Earth is another way of talking about the C's concept of our planet as a Convergence Point:
-In his chapter on Signatures and Shifts, he makes the case that a serial criminal has a signature. That's not always the case, though - successful psychopaths are able to hide quite well. They're cunning. So maybe they don't leave a signature at all.
He states that there is a consistent signature to abduction scenarios, and that Walton's 'healing' amounts to a change in the signature, which is an indication that there will be a major shift in hyperdimensional activity on the planet. That seems like quite a leap to me. It's like saying, once upon a time, aliens handed out some buckwheat pancakes, so prepare, ye awakened ones, for this portends an exciting new future for the human race.
Maybe there is a general signature to abductions. But as was written about in High Strangeness, there's a possibility is that this signature is the result of a mass mind-control project, broadcast through the 'charged atmospheric cavity' mentioned by Dolan in order to hide the truth of abductions. So the apparent signature of the crime is hard to actually distinguish from the noise, hiding the real signal.
-In The Doctrine of Diminishing Returns he makes the case that no one should become a whistleblower, from which I infer that no one with access to classified material should come forwards. In that context, I wonder what he thinks of his own books and interviews? Is this his way of 'taking care of each other in the Awakened Community?' I can't tell if its basic strategic enclosure or a recipe for an echo chamber.
-I found the Dome of Entropy concept to be interesting, a dome of physical decay that actually protects us from 4D STS. Strange to think of entropy as a protective force! But I think he's a bit off in what he says. Aren't 4d STS the overlords of entropy? Set on increasing it and feed on its effects?
It's unclear to me whether the C's have mentioned anything about 4D STS having no 'silver thread' as he claims. From a recent session where there was a question about evil dudes in the afterlife, it does sound like they go to 5D, and I think the silver thread is the only way to get there, no?
- His chapter on Gateway Earth is another way of talking about the C's concept of our planet as a Convergence Point:
I don't think it is a "submissive attitude", I think he's being strategic. Same for his "please everyone" smile.
I base my interest on the fact that he spoke things that were furiously interesting and then downplayed them. It seemed as if he was saying things for "those with ears to hear." And, so far, as I read his book, I think that is the case.
Despite the many logical inconsistencies in his cosmology and anthropology and theology, he often enough says things that are deeply insightful or astonishing and thought triggering, that I am beginning to think that the whole thing he is doing is "coded" and that he let us know this plainly when he said the FBI isn't interested in what he is doing because it is all paranormal. I'm beginning to suspect the guy is trying to convey stuff of importance by salting it into an apparently messy series of statements about a whole lot of topics. And for that reason, I'm reading closely and carefully...
What is important to me in the above is his true statement that believing everything begins and ends with the physical is a Mind Trap, and the statement that echoes the Cs that the Earth is a PORTAL.
Now, where the heck did he get such an idea?
Are these concepts obtained from the Greys?
Namely, they were made, they are "Cybernetic Probes" (if I remember correctly). They are the ones with whom people most often have "physical" contact. Such; cosmology, the purpose of existence/goal of life, the logic of action for the purpose of the future and immortality, could be developed/assigned to the Grays.
I am not reading the book and relying on your comments.
I watched the video and had a lot of fun following the manner of the "gossip lady", lowering his voice and leaning towards the camera: this is a TOP secret, but you deserve to be told.
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Wandering Star
The Living Force
The suspicion I have since I started reading this book is that it has gotten a lot of insights from your communications with the C's and forum work.
And then he mixes it with his own cosmology.
It is the feeling that I have.
Candice
Jedi Master
I’m 60% of my way through the book and this was my take too.
He’s basically saying just enough to hook in anyone who actually has a clue that will then contact him privately for more information. For what purpose? Good or bad? I don’t know.
He’s hinting at knowing a lot more but he’s not throwing all his pearls before the masses. People with “eyes to see and ears to hear” and interested with some credibility with regards to their own research or standing may get access to what he actually knows.
He never states anything remotely close to getting him in trouble. The meaty part is so clearly absent but hinted at. He seems so strong in what he believes but no source material is linked.
Also I’d like to say to those that have only watched his interviews you’re not really getting a real idea of his views or beliefs. He most definitely doesn’t think they’re “good guys”, maybe some are but his focus so far in the book has been that we’re basically on a prison planet with global elite ruling us and these entities from another dimension are using the global cabal as proxies to control us.
The part that freaked me out a bit is his belief that hybrids or chimeras, as in humans that were previously abducted were then hybridized with animals will be sent back to us to basically cause chaos. Crazy stuff that I hope to never see.
When I wrote yesterday about what a mess the book is, I was reminded of how Fulcanelli wrote the steps of the great work out of order to throw off those who aren’t discerning enough to figure it out, but I instantly dismissed the idea that Desouza was capable of doing something similar in an intentional way. The book had just come across to me as lazily and hastily thrown together.
Yes, when he wrote about the Earth being a portal, I was also reminded of the C's saying that planets are windows. His chapter about the aliens having cut their etheric chord connections to the DCM can be interpreted by the C's framework of 4D STSness, and their needing to feed on others. But it's all so couched in, frankly, silly ideas.
But then he writes the following paragraph, and now I guess I have to question whether I have what it takes to be one of his 'awakened investigators':
That's straight out of the sessions.
Possible. But also possible that he came across someone else who had taken some of our material and spun it.
There are just a LOT of ideas in there (and out on the internet now) that I KNOW originated with the Cs. I was right on top of the UFO/alien/channeling stuff back then and communicating with a lot of folks, so I have a very good idea of what people were thinking, saying, and the direction things were heading. The Cs were definitely a game changer. Yet, we get almost no credit and linking to our site is avoided like the plague.
Well, DeSouza pretty much explains that from the FBI/controllers perspective. And things like that, I think he knows about and is giving the straight scoop.
I'm about the same place.
What freaked me out while I was eating dinner was reading his little chapter on cattle mutilations. I got the distinct impression that his list of "typical hallmarks" of the mutilations was taken straight from an FBI assessment. I knew most of it, but not all. The part about hearts being removed without damaging the pericardium was just jaw dropping.
And yeah, he does NOT at all belong with Greer and that gang.
There are a LOT of things he writes about that are very good platforms for questions for Cs.
Exactly. What you get in the book, though still very much veiled, is NOT what is suggested by watching an interview with him unless you are paying close attention. That fact alone, plus considering his training, suggests to me that he is being VERY controlled, in a specific way, when he speaks. Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth!
But then, if he just came out and said stuff like we say, like the Cs say, he would be suppressed like we are.
BHelmet
The Living Force
A lot of devils buried in the details. Regarding the notion of reality creation and tailoring as a function of consciousness, boy, that’s a big one which bleeds over into the idea of alien disclosure or universal acceptance of aliens.
I am seeing a meme which applies: Musk saying “I don’t care” and the NATO dude saying the same thing about Russian reaction. I think there is a key there. People don’t really universally care about anything unless it is a clear and present danger. COVID is the perfect example. The fear cut both ways: fear of a disease and, if you were a non-believer, then fear of the Vacation.
How many agendas are falling flat? Almost all of them which includes the lack of response to the insanity of those agendas. Sure, 25% of any population is going to buy in, but 25% are going to call BS, 25% are going to be on drugs or playing video games and 25% are going to be utterly clueless. The idea that the world will be shocked by some alien revelation is overblown, AFAICT. Sure the MSM will act shocked and talkings heads will contract verbal diarrhea. But if people are not effected directly it will be a big “meh”. Why would there be a mass consensus, no matter how convincing the pyrotechnics?
Lastly, the idea of simple human earth level consciousness with limited knowledge and understanding being able to directly influence reality manifestation (if only this superpower was realized) is wishful thinking. It’s no diff than the simplistic YCYOR new age fluff. I think it’s a very complex matter with many consciousnesses involved including off world overseer types such as the aforementioned quorum (I think that was the name used).And Recall the C’s saying it is gravity that chooses to act when it sees fit. Joe Schmo is not going to just wave his hand such that a large-breasted Unicorn delivers him a cheeseburger on a silver platter if only he tapped into the right mindset. And neither are a million Joe Schmo’s if they all believe in perfect synchrony.
So what’s the point? If enough people believe “aliens” are real then…. ? I think people are already aware, on a subconscious level, that “aliens” are part and parcel of our earth gig. The buffers of denial are in place for many but for many others it is not a stunning shock but more “yeah, whatever, knew it all along.” Bottom line, until people’s lives are directly effected, nobody really cares…enough to react…to change….to accept some new BS paradigm; and even then, the real human flock will still know that it’s just another BS paradigm to be believed or ignored. A “meet the new boss” moment.
I think the alien narrative isn’t so much about empowering the alien narrative as it is about weakening the human narrative.
I am seeing a meme which applies: Musk saying “I don’t care” and the NATO dude saying the same thing about Russian reaction. I think there is a key there. People don’t really universally care about anything unless it is a clear and present danger. COVID is the perfect example. The fear cut both ways: fear of a disease and, if you were a non-believer, then fear of the Vacation.
How many agendas are falling flat? Almost all of them which includes the lack of response to the insanity of those agendas. Sure, 25% of any population is going to buy in, but 25% are going to call BS, 25% are going to be on drugs or playing video games and 25% are going to be utterly clueless. The idea that the world will be shocked by some alien revelation is overblown, AFAICT. Sure the MSM will act shocked and talkings heads will contract verbal diarrhea. But if people are not effected directly it will be a big “meh”. Why would there be a mass consensus, no matter how convincing the pyrotechnics?
Lastly, the idea of simple human earth level consciousness with limited knowledge and understanding being able to directly influence reality manifestation (if only this superpower was realized) is wishful thinking. It’s no diff than the simplistic YCYOR new age fluff. I think it’s a very complex matter with many consciousnesses involved including off world overseer types such as the aforementioned quorum (I think that was the name used).And Recall the C’s saying it is gravity that chooses to act when it sees fit. Joe Schmo is not going to just wave his hand such that a large-breasted Unicorn delivers him a cheeseburger on a silver platter if only he tapped into the right mindset. And neither are a million Joe Schmo’s if they all believe in perfect synchrony.
So what’s the point? If enough people believe “aliens” are real then…. ? I think people are already aware, on a subconscious level, that “aliens” are part and parcel of our earth gig. The buffers of denial are in place for many but for many others it is not a stunning shock but more “yeah, whatever, knew it all along.” Bottom line, until people’s lives are directly effected, nobody really cares…enough to react…to change….to accept some new BS paradigm; and even then, the real human flock will still know that it’s just another BS paradigm to be believed or ignored. A “meet the new boss” moment.
I think the alien narrative isn’t so much about empowering the alien narrative as it is about weakening the human narrative.
I'm about halfway through the book at the moment and taking notes.
At times, the author explains his method and how he arrived at a certain conclusion, such as when he breaks down his reasoning step-by-step when discussing the Travis Walton case, and then at other times, it's unclear where he's getting the information from, such as his claims that the bodies recovered from the Rosewell crashes were hybrid creatures created for the specific purpose of disinformation, to shore up the extraterrestrial narrative. It makes sense, but it's unclear how he got there.
The author writes:
This reminded me of a set of markers C's provided some time ago:
It's unclear to me why the author talks about a mass awakening regarding the hyperdimensional nature of our world and the UFO phenomena, especially in a book written in 2016. There might be a small minority who have reached such a conclusion, but I fail to see a major shift happening any time soon.
There does seem to be a controlled shift happening right now given all the UFO talk and 'disclosures', though I can hardly imagine it will be a shift involving much truth. The C's did mention above the increase in UFO activity and that all must awaken to this as our reality changes, so who knows what form that will take.
His take on why abductions happen is that they are harvesting humans for samples:
No mention of them using human emotions as an energy source except in passing, which he dismissed as not being important, though I haven't read the whole book yet.
There are also some things mentioned briefly in the book without being developed further, but overall it's an interesting read.
At times, the author explains his method and how he arrived at a certain conclusion, such as when he breaks down his reasoning step-by-step when discussing the Travis Walton case, and then at other times, it's unclear where he's getting the information from, such as his claims that the bodies recovered from the Rosewell crashes were hybrid creatures created for the specific purpose of disinformation, to shore up the extraterrestrial narrative. It makes sense, but it's unclear how he got there.
The author writes:
This reminded me of a set of markers C's provided some time ago:
It's unclear to me why the author talks about a mass awakening regarding the hyperdimensional nature of our world and the UFO phenomena, especially in a book written in 2016. There might be a small minority who have reached such a conclusion, but I fail to see a major shift happening any time soon.
There does seem to be a controlled shift happening right now given all the UFO talk and 'disclosures', though I can hardly imagine it will be a shift involving much truth. The C's did mention above the increase in UFO activity and that all must awaken to this as our reality changes, so who knows what form that will take.
His take on why abductions happen is that they are harvesting humans for samples:
No mention of them using human emotions as an energy source except in passing, which he dismissed as not being important, though I haven't read the whole book yet.
There are also some things mentioned briefly in the book without being developed further, but overall it's an interesting read.
DeSouza's take on the Roswell coverup is interesting. He writes that:
From the May 5th, 2000's session:
The last comment of the C's is a little enigmatic. If a craft and its "pilots" crashed, then obviously there is non-human intelligence. But the discussion is about the coverup. In that case, does Roswell in "Roswell did involve" refers to the Roswell coverup operation rather than the event itself in this case?
DeSouza thinks the crash materials and bodies were provided by the "Extradimensional Aliens" to the US military to organize a leaky coverup for a future disclosure where the narrative is controlled. It would be interresting to have a clarification on this point for instance.
From the May 5th, 2000's session:
The last comment of the C's is a little enigmatic. If a craft and its "pilots" crashed, then obviously there is non-human intelligence. But the discussion is about the coverup. In that case, does Roswell in "Roswell did involve" refers to the Roswell coverup operation rather than the event itself in this case?
DeSouza thinks the crash materials and bodies were provided by the "Extradimensional Aliens" to the US military to organize a leaky coverup for a future disclosure where the narrative is controlled. It would be interresting to have a clarification on this point for instance.
