John Kaminski Goes Off the Deep End

Feedback on Tuesday, Oct. 31 WING TV show
(I'll add to this as I get responses.)

1. From Janet P.

"I enjoyed Tuesday's radio show! I just hope there there are more people like me who have jumped out of that stupid box I was in with Alex Jones. Im glad I never bought anaything from Alex jones."

2. From Lon:

"Right now I'm listening to your show! Stadtmiller!! What an f---ing joke! You guys hit the nail right on the head!! Good for you and Victor!! Glad you're back!
 
Hey Lisa, liked the show, and totally agree with Laura that Victor's style probably appeals to a lot of people (although I think he should also listen to and think more about what you say. I also agree with Henry that on this particular subject his vociferousness was warranted, the whole "9/11 movement" thing is such an utter joke and sham that I can imagine myself getting equally worked up.

Kudos

Joe
 
henry said:
I also find Victor's style sometimes a little over the top, but today, especially when he was discussing the attacks on you, I felt his emotion was entirely warranted and well used to convey the horror of those attacks. The stress on conscience is vital. Hopefully he will be able with that to convey to your listeners the utter seriousness and gravity of the situation. People do need to hear discussions like that with such conviction and emotion -- I just hope it shocks them into stopping and looking at reality.
Just finished listening to it, well done. I agree with Henry in fact I just wanted to say the same thing. I found that Victor tried to wakeup the people... Last call... WAKEUP NOW!!! :o
 
fOOFIGHTER WROTE:

FWIW, I just got two off-list emails from Marsha where she rants about being "censored", and provides loooong more-of-the-same explanations of this and that. No point in going through the details though.

Anyone else being contacted too?


Yeps ive got three "extra extra read all about it"s
As you say i cant be bothered to go through the details.
 
Lisa said:
I also have said that I cannot control what is going to come out of Thorn's mouth on any show.
He is who he is.
Hi Lisa, I probably have a programmed reaction to some instances of cussing like that, so when I heard him use the P-word I was thrown off and that colored my impressions about what he was saying. My dad called me that word one night and it has never stopped hurting, decades later.

Good to know though that SOTT isn't the only place on the net screaming for people to wake up. You are both bold individuals and I fully appreaciate that.
 
Hi Lisa, everyone

I would like to say good show Lisa and Victor!:) And as mentioned by Laura, Henry and others some great points were raised that NEED to be heard by everyone. Some of the points you guys were making reminded me of what foofighter and I were discussing here on pages 41- 42.

I also thought that Victor is a little emotional, but I sort of understood where he was coming from. Attacks are frustrating and WING TV has been under a lot of pressure, so Victor said what he felt and I understand. I do agree that Victor could possibly work on toning down the language a little in the midst of emotion. All in all, I think you two make a great duo.

Oh, also I wanted to let the group know that I also received 2 of Marsha's rants. :rolleyes:
 
Laura said:
I think that this little essay just goes to show how a basically decent person can be shoved over the edge into absolute filth by proper "handling." Talk about "totalitarian" and doctrinaire thinking... sheesh! What a waste.

Rec via email

Parasite alert

Outing those who pretend
to be friends of the truth


By John Kaminski
skylax@comcast.net


Apologies to my longtime readers for inflicting upon you the numerous
and inane forwards of one Judy Zalman* Andreas <jude10901@aol.com>, a
longtime radio social climber who attached to me and the 9/11 movement
and catapulted herself into becoming the wife of a white racist radio
host and chief spokesperson for the Jewish protection racket that has
Internet conspiracy radio in its firm grip.

Andreas pilfered my mailing list and soon begin e-mailing my friends
with her inconsistent (one story for one person, another for another)
and pro-Jewish New Age banalities, all with the intent of comprehending
the complaints against Jews for the purpose of negating them as public
issues, and to take the heat off of Jews. Her superficial emotionalism
has been roundly ridiculed in numerous chatrooms monitored by Ardeshir
Mehta and especially by my fellow Rense-refugee Dr. Lorraine Day
<http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/zionism.htm>

She, along with Jewish apologists Henry Makow and Israel Shamir,
pretend to preach the Jewish version of peace and understanding, all
the while blunting the horror of what the Jewish community is doing to
the world through its uncompromising support of Israel, the ADL, AIPAC,
the Jewish-funded universities that rule our country, and most of all,
the near-100 percent Jewish domination of the U.S. Congress, which not
so incidentally just passed legislation that finished off the
Constitution and made you subject to instant arrest for no real reason
at all.

And don't forget the cluster bombing in Lebanon topping off a 60-year
list of terrorism by the Israeli government in Palestine.

Anybody left out there still doubting this Jewish tyranny that is
destroying the world by making money the reason for living?

"Silly game-playing and deliberate subterfuge," I believe was the key
phrase in Dr. Day's dismantling of Andreas, which about describes her
meteoric rise to top Rense columnist and friend of Palestinian TV
socialite Hesham Tillawi and gatekeeping radio host Meria Heller (two
more compromised parasites to be avoided at all costs).

It would be my advice to block e-mails from Andreas, which are often
disguised as conversations with me which have not been sent to me,
particularly as the list of people she sends these to are exactly from
my mailing list, and were stolen by her without permission. I have not
had a conversation with Andreas in over a year, yet her recent spam
e-mails purport to record recent conversations between us. She has also
been known to use other names in chatrooms so you may be getting
e-mails with other names that have been invented by her.

I take responsibility for the messes she has created in various venues
because I am the one who introduced her to some of them, mistakenly
thinking at that moment that a Jew could tell the truth. I hope I have
learned something about people who are overly friendly. She penetrated
the Patriot movement bigtime, and reported back to her rabbi.

The last thing I remember her saying to me is that if I was going to
continue talking about Jews, she would continue to conduct her campaign
of harassment against me, which she and others have continued.

In my search of cyberspace once I knew 9/11 was a hoax, I have been
victimized by a number of people like Andreas who were overly friendly.
Some guy named Fintan Dunne had a nice interview with me about
religion, then put me on a list that I was a CIA mole.

Jon Carlson once sent me a hundred bucks but when I wouldn't run with
his white helicopter theory about 9/11, he wrote an article on Rense
that said I was Naval intelligence, which would have gotten a big laugh
from the boys on the fantail with whom I used to share an occasional
spliff.

But the biggest sucker punch came from Daryl Bradford Smith, who
pretended to be a longtime friend of my Uncle Louie and had me on his
radio show on various networks about eight times. I even got him guests
when he needed them. But one night he called me up and said, "You've
got to get off Rense. He's a UFO nut." I said, "Daryl, don't threaten
me." Since then, Daryl and his puppeteer Eric Hufschmid (a good friend
of Tillawi) have conducted a smear campaign worthy of Andreas. In fact,
it's very similar.

And get this. Daryl originally smeared me, he said, because I went out
with the Jewish Andreas. But then he ran her stories (presumably
endorsing her efforts), yet still inveighed against me as a Zionist. At
the very same time, Rense kicked me off his site because I was
published by a competitor.

Andreas was the one who taught me, finally, to never trust a Jew. Her
name is a good gauge to tell whether a website is sincere or not. If
she's on there, you've got a huge dose of duplicitous Jewish
doublespeak awaiting you. And if you have the misfortune of speaking
with her, remember that what she tells you will not be what she tells
someone else.

By now, both the Genesis and Republic internet radio networks have come
to be viewed as propaganda outlets, led by the energetic Alex Jones,
who storms his way toward a network TV gig all the while insisting the
Israelis are our friends.

All that can be said about Daryl's shrill iamthewitness.com is that he
runs good stories by Hufschmid and others (that St. Einstein was a
classic!), and that I am thankful that somebody is labeling me a
Zionist because, frankly, after what I've written in the past year, I
need all the cover I can get.

It's also interesting that Daryl writes about Zionists but agrees with
French law that one may not speak about the Holocaust, a colossal act
of cowardice that should send people running from his site and should
delegitimize anything he says in the minds of anybody who can think.

Like Andreas, people who steal my mailing list worry me.

I still don't know who Mark Meza is, but his mailing list reads like
mine.

Another person who falls into this category is channeler Laura
Knight-Jadczyk, who has inveigled many with her prescient psychological
pronouncements that it is a percentage of psychopaths that hold the
world in thrall through savagery. K-J's encyclopedic and endlessly
perfect papers about aspects of human behavior scare the shit out of
me, because her new science of ponerology could serve perfectly as a
new template for totalitarianism, to be imposed by the very people who
get to fund spooky think tanks like these.

Thankfully, she has not caught on in any of the groups I observe
working on the world's problems.

I consider the world's top problem - the creator of more misery than
any other single source - to be unchecked Jewish control of money. I
have alienated myself from millions who were brought up to believe that
Jews were just ordinary people who have slightly different beliefs than
Christians. So it was in my white suburban American neighborhood of the
1950s.

Since that time I have discovered that Jewish destabilization of
societies who hosted them exists in an unbroken line of calamity
stretching all the way back to ancient Egypt, a span of some 250
centuries. No other social pattern shows such longevity, indicating the
centrality of Hebrew archetypes to human thinking down through history.

In Egypt, in ancient Canaan, in Rome, in Spain, in England, in Russia,
in Germany, and now in the United States, the takeover of native
systems by a Jewish financial elite that has always mastered the money
game, has led to nothing but endless war, and the decay of the
societies on which the Jews have preyed.

The one thing that Andreas, Heller, Tillawi, Smith, and especially Jeff
Rense is that they all went after me for using the word "Jew" and
instead of "Zionist" (which is the current escape label Jews use to
distance themselves from responsibility for Jewish crime happening in
every nook and cranny of society). Rense particularly embarrassed and
revealed his true nature when he rewrote my title "Jewish war on
freedom of speech" to "Zionist war on freedom of speech." But then, he
has received awards from Jewish groups.

It's just another "ism," baby. The real word has four letters.

The failure in recent days of the American Constitution in Congress was
a wholly Jewish enterprise, guaranteed by the 100 percent AIPAC
controlled legislative body.

So when I write a story titled "Judaism is madness" and the florid and
effete former Jew now so-called Christian Israel Shamir writes,
"Kaminski is mad," in response to that piece, I can only conclude he is
a member of that "ex-Jewish" group of Andreas, Makow, William Rivers
Pitt, Paul Craig Roberts, and on and on who are all out to belittle
Americans and cover up the overarching manipulation of Jewish
influences which have led the United States to its doom.

Unless a Jew can say that it's more important to be a human being than
it is to be a Jew, then that person is not to be trusted.

Any defender of Judaism is obviously the enemy of the rest of the human
species. It says so right in both the Torah and the Talmud, and that's
what ALL Jews believe. Or else they wouldn't be Jews, and have their
2,500-year history of social deception shaping their behavior.

And a warning to all Internet commentators. Trust a Jew at your peril.
The probability is certain you will be distracted and deflected from
your goal.

My goal is to show how the Jewish mindset is destroying all life on
this planet, and to point out the number of Jews - from Judy Andreas to
Noam Chomsky to Richard Perle - who deny this even as they continue to
participate in the lie that is killing us all.

* Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi (1745-1812), founder of the Lubavitcher
movement that is the chief religious sponsor of Jewish terror
throughout the world.




John Kaminski is a writer who lives on the Gulf Coast of Florida whose
essays have been seen on hundreds of websites around the world, but
fewer lately because of the cowardice of supposed news purveyors who
lack the courage to call a Jew and Jew.
How can it possibly be that so many have no clue that the Bush Administration was the victim of a Zionist coup brought upon itself by itself. Cheney and Rumsfeld are part of the coup. Bush is a (financilally gaining) prisoner of his own presidency, he runs nothing.

Bush sat in that chair on 9-11 because he was TOLD to sit in that chair!

Why do people fail to realize that Cheney and Bush testified "TOGETHER" before the BOGUS 9-11 because Cheney wanted to keep his eye on Bush and make sure he didn't say the wrong things.
Look at how many Zionists are on the Bush Administration and even more, how many are "advisors."

The Zionists have done this same routine in every country they have moved in on. They take over the banking community and then the rulers. They did it in Germany until Hitler put a stop to it. They hit the jackpot here, the people are too dumb to realize it.

Kaminski is 100% correct. Anyone that denies this is either flat out stupid or a shill!


Read 9-11 Evil by Victor Thorn and learn the truth!




"How fortunate for those of us in power that people do not think!"- Adolph Hitler
 
Mark,
He used the "P" word in the context of "gutless" and "cowardly". Granted, it's not the word I would prefer he use, since there are other words that can be substituted. Victor does not want to be what he calls "mamby-pamby" about expressing his thoughts and ideas and opinions. He doesn't edit himself as he talks.
He is not an "intellectual" and he doesn't come across as one. But he is smart, a good writer with keen insights and many people do relate to the things he has to say.
Thorn has his own "style" of expression and getting the message across, just as we all do.

And we do hope that people will focus more on the content rather than the "delivery" on any show.
The content is what's most important and we try to get that right - in one take....
We've urged lthe public to do this (focus on the content rather than delivery), because we aren't trying to be replacements for the polished mainstream talking heads, and we never will be.
Just two ordinary people speaking our minds, that's all.
So it can be a little rough around the edges...:-)

But yeah, I wouldn't mind replacing the "P" word.
The word "gutless" kicks just as hard in the same sentence...:-))))

Geez, I hope you people who've been "contacted" by Mofmars also haven't had your emails "collected".

Lisa
 
Hi YuvBenDuped - Not sure why you've reposted this essay by Kaminski here, as it has already been covered in the forum - also, anyone with two neurons firing can see that Kaminski is NOT 100% right - he has turned into what amounts to a hate monger with blinders on.

I get the sense that you've come to the forum to push a viewpoint that will not be accepted here - which is the viewpoint that Kaminski also pushes. You may want to read the Controversy of Zion thread on the forum to get more information - the crux of which is that psychopaths are the real problem, not any general group of people, although the Zionist movement certainly is being used well by psychopaths. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3026
 
Lisa said:
Mark,
He used the "P" word in the context of "gutless" and "cowardly". Granted, it's not the word I would prefer he use, since there are other words that can be substituted. Victor does not want to be what he calls "mamby-pamby" about expressing his thoughts and ideas and opinions. He doesn't edit himself as he talks.
He is not an "intellectual" and he doesn't come across as one. But he is smart, a good writer with keen insights and many people do relate to the things he has to say.
Thorn has his own "style" of expression and getting the message across, just as we all do.

And we do hope that people will focus more on the content rather than the "delivery" on any show.
The content is what's most important and we try to get that right - in one take....
We've urged lthe public to do this (focus on the content rather than delivery), because we aren't trying to be replacements for the polished mainstream talking heads, and we never will be.
Just two ordinary people speaking our minds, that's all.
So it can be a little rough around the edges...:-)

But yeah, I wouldn't mind replacing the "P" word.
The word "gutless" kicks just as hard in the same sentence...:-))))

Geez, I hope you people who've been "contacted" by Mofmars also haven't had your emails "collected".

Lisa
I know this is off the subject but I first wanted to say that I enjoy your show, and listen to it daily (when not hacked).

I find myself in a quandry however as to who, in fact, the true patriots are? I sometimes wonder if you guys are not here to divide and conquer the 9-11 truth movement. You are definately having success in my opinion.

While it is true that many are using the same "terrorize" tactics, and most are profiting by all of this on a grand scale, I can't help but wonder if I am not wrong in my loyalties towards you by the fact that you and Victor have attacked everyone, though it 'appears to be' good cause. The main reason I lean towards you two is the fact that no one responds to your attacks by debating with, or defending themselves, live with you. Instead they do the same thing that the Republicans I discuss 9-11 with do, attack me, not what I am saying!

Their failure to defend themselves speaks volumes for their veracity. This is the same reason I have no trust whatsoever for the globalist Zionist run BushCo government. They refuse to let us see the pertinant information which could vindicate them and put all the 9-11 theories to rest.


My one gripe with you guys is, that for all the talk by you at how everyone is profiting by the 9-11 movement, why don't I see your (or Victors) books in pdf format (or another free available form) to be spread out all over the internet? I want you to know that I use the information in 9-11 Evil whenever possible and give Victor his due, but it would be so much easier if could spread the info on all of the several forums I am on and in my newspaper articles without having to type it all out or spend hours if not days scanning it.

If knowledge and truth awareness is what you guys want to spread, why not get those books out on all channels of the information highway?


"The tyranny of a prince in an oligarchy is not so dangerous to the public welfare as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy"-Charles de Montesquieu quotes (French Politician and Philosopher, 1689-1755)
 
Yuvbinduped said:
Instead they do the same thing that the Republicans I discuss 9-11 with do, attack me, not what I am saying! Their failure to defend themselves speaks volumes.
This is a good point and something that most people have trouble picking up on - especially when they're getting attacked. It's so easy to fall into defensive mode and forget what the whole conversation was about in the first place - that's why that technique - of character attack - is so often used by people who don't want to answer questions because answering the questions would prove they are lying or misleading or whatever. The 'attack dog' technique throws normal people off balance and they get caught up feeling defensive instead of seeing it for the diversion it is. It's also very telling that you see this technique so often with the 'big boy' talk show hosts on Fox News, by the way.
 
1. We're not dividing any 9-11 truth movement. There is no 9-11 truth movement.

2. The word "patriot" doesn't mean diddly anymore, as its been usurped by psychopaths and those who are tools of psychopaths.

3. We are(trying to) divide the psychos from the non-psychos.

4. There is a small but tireless truth EFFORT - no movement yet.

5. We do not "attack". We EXPOSE wrongdoing, censorship, fearmongering for profit, LIES, con-artists, etc...
If you want to see the difference, read Christopher Bollyn's hitpieces on me and Thorn.
Bollyn is an ATTACKER.
Andreas is an attacker.
Kaminski is an attacker.
Rense is an attacker.
Hufschmid is an attacker.
Daryl Smith is an attacker
Jack Blood and Revere Radio psychos are attackers.
Vinnie Bridges is an attacker.
Stadtmiller is an attacker.
Alex Jones is a covert attacker.

We EXPOSE psychopaths within the fake movement and fake alternative media and draw attention to their evil ways. We also talk about lots of other subjects, which you should know if you listen to our show every day.

6. Noone at WING TV is asking for your loyalty - or your money. We ask that you think for yourself, learn from all available credible data, listen to your conscience and act accordingly.

7. The Posers don't respond to us on the issues because they would rather make ad hominem attacks on us or hack our website. This is because they are cowards and fakes and PSYCHOPATHS!!!!!!!!!

8. Our books are underpriced - virtually all of them, except the very few we had no control over as far as price setting. We do not make a "profit" off of book or dvd sales, and you should know this if you listen to our show so much. We've addressed this multiple times in the past. Also, sales of books and dvds help pay for us to get more books and dvds. Moreover, how do you think we can pay printing costs for the books we write ourselves if we just give them away for nothing?
Do you think a book that costs you $6.99 translates into us making a profit on that book?
Get real. Compare our book prices with prices on Alex Jones's website, for example.
Our shows are free and we don't charge people to access them. Our show archives are also free.
The whole website with all the articles, videos, etc...is free. We don't have paid subscribers.
Do you think we should just give everything away and eat the whole cost just so you don't have to pay a penny?
We do not profit off of our website or off of book/dvd sales. This is not our living income.
This money buys more books and dvds and on our own works, helps pay the costs of printing.
Period. We've said this before.
There are also many interviews available for free on our website and you can surely pass around the links to the free 9-11 on Trial video segments on our website. The whole book is online for FREE in video format.
There are interviews we've done on 9-11 Evil and the Phantom Flight 93 book too, which can be passed around for FREE by sending the links or whatever.

I don't know how much easier it could be made for you, to be honest.

It doesn't get much cheaper than this and there is no money tree growing in our backyard the last time I looked.
 
anart said:
Hi YuvBenDuped - Not sure why you've reposted this essay by Kaminski here, as it has already been covered in the forum - also, anyone with two neurons firing can see that Kaminski is NOT 100% right - he has turned into what amounts to a hate monger with blinders on.

I get the sense that you've come to the forum to push a viewpoint that will not be accepted here - which is the viewpoint that Kaminski also pushes. You may want to read the Controversy of Zion thread on the forum to get more information - the crux of which is that psychopaths are the real problem, not any general group of people, although the Zionist movement certainly is being used well by psychopaths. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3026
I heard Kiminski on RBN and I was relating to much of what he had to say before being censored by John Stadtmiller. I would have liked to hear it all. I hate censorship!

Where it may be true that Kiminski is not 100% corect in everything, as no one is, I assure you, my opinion is that our country has been the victim of a political coup in 2000, where the globalist Zionists infiltrated and took over our country from top to bottom.

As far as the "psychopaths" theory of yours goes, I find it absurd. All one need do is look at who is running this president and "advising" him. A person does not have to be Jewish to be a Zionist.

Let me ask you a question.

If the "dual citizens" that control this president were Palestinians instead of Zionists, would that be okay by you?




"Tis our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of
the foreign world"
- George Washington
 
Yuv said: "As far as the "psychopaths" theory of yours goes, I find it absurd.
All one need do is look at who is running this president and "advising" him. A person does not have to be Jewish to be a Zionist."

What exactly is absurd about the "psychopath theory"? Have you read the data?
You miss a very important point, Yuv.

A person does not have to be Jewish or Zionist to be a psychopath, although a lot of them are.
The underlying evil is being perpetrated by psychopaths.
People without a conscience, not necessarily and not always Jews.
 
yuvbinduped said:
Where it may be true that Kiminski is not 100% corect in everything, as no one is, I assure you, my opinion is that our country has been the victim of a political coup in 2000, where the globalist Zionists infiltrated and took over our country from top to bottom.
Actually, had you taken the time to read the thread that I suggested, you would realize that it happened long before 2000 - but you probably already know that, eh?

yuvbinduped said:
As far as the "psychopaths" theory of yours goes, I find it absurd. All one need do is look at who is running this president and "advising" him. A person does not have to be Jewish to be a Zionist.
You clearly have no idea what you're discussing when you refer to this 'psychopath theory'. What is now evident is that you don't have any idea about the research we ( and others ) have done that, in many ways, backs up some of the comments you've made about Zionists - however, since you haven't read it and come here making these all-knowing comments, you've made yourself out to be a bit of a fool on the topic. Shame, really. Perhaps more reading and less posting might work for the time being.

yuvnotbeenpayingattention said:
Let me ask you a question.

If the "dual citizens" that are in the exact same positions as the Zionists are were all Palestinians, would you think that was ok?
Actually, I would be ecstatic if they were Palestinians, but that's another topic altogether. Read some threads here before you make more of a fool of yourself - if you actually read the thread I already suggested, that alone would help you understand that the preconceived ideas with which you obviously came to this forum are serving you poorly.
 

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