Peterson goes scorched Earth on wokism in Canada, and on Trudeau who he calls, "AT LEAST a narcissist."
When you watch this interview, you really get the sense that Peterson has spent some time integrating ponerology into his personal framework.
To put it into context, you have to think back to the Peterson of a few years ago, who had spent his life and career trying to understand how the Cold War could have happened, with its ideological dynamic of capitalism vs. communism, and how we can explain totalitarian states.
Until his exposure to ponerology, his explanation was the moral failings of ordinary people. His two university courses, 'Maps of Meaning' and 'Personality and its Transformations', as well as the first five or so years of lectures to the public, were founded on individual responsibility, ethics and morality, and personal transformation, with a heavy emphasis on the idea that pathological ideologies fill the hole in people where religion should have been. It's the combination of these things, of societies and culture becoming stale and outdated, finding in them the archetype of the old man and/or dead father, indicating the need for the individual to strengthen themselves sufficiently to play the role of the hero to rescue said father from the belly of the whale or from the underworld, that Peterson based his whole intellectual system on.
Now, he has the key - pathological deviants - and he's not talking about the issue being solely one of personal responsibility any more. Granted, the interview is specifically about Canada and Trudeau, and of course the majority of what he has prescribed for individuals is valid, but still, you have to remember how he explained pathocracies before, as being a kind of dance that happens between a population and megalomanic - a feedback loop where the leader feeds the crowds with what he thinks they want to hear, who then give him support in return, who then takes them down the road of totalitarianism due to everyone's dark side becoming the activated and prevalent force because evil is in everyone, and if not acknowledged and integrated into the personality properly, we'll all act like psychopaths.
Now, he's basically saying, psychopaths spellbind O.P.s and together they lead everyone else off the cliff.
When you watch this interview, you really get the sense that Peterson has spent some time integrating ponerology into his personal framework.
To put it into context, you have to think back to the Peterson of a few years ago, who had spent his life and career trying to understand how the Cold War could have happened, with its ideological dynamic of capitalism vs. communism, and how we can explain totalitarian states.
Until his exposure to ponerology, his explanation was the moral failings of ordinary people. His two university courses, 'Maps of Meaning' and 'Personality and its Transformations', as well as the first five or so years of lectures to the public, were founded on individual responsibility, ethics and morality, and personal transformation, with a heavy emphasis on the idea that pathological ideologies fill the hole in people where religion should have been. It's the combination of these things, of societies and culture becoming stale and outdated, finding in them the archetype of the old man and/or dead father, indicating the need for the individual to strengthen themselves sufficiently to play the role of the hero to rescue said father from the belly of the whale or from the underworld, that Peterson based his whole intellectual system on.
Now, he has the key - pathological deviants - and he's not talking about the issue being solely one of personal responsibility any more. Granted, the interview is specifically about Canada and Trudeau, and of course the majority of what he has prescribed for individuals is valid, but still, you have to remember how he explained pathocracies before, as being a kind of dance that happens between a population and megalomanic - a feedback loop where the leader feeds the crowds with what he thinks they want to hear, who then give him support in return, who then takes them down the road of totalitarianism due to everyone's dark side becoming the activated and prevalent force because evil is in everyone, and if not acknowledged and integrated into the personality properly, we'll all act like psychopaths.
Now, he's basically saying, psychopaths spellbind O.P.s and together they lead everyone else off the cliff.