Jordan Peterson: Gender Pronouns and Free Speech War

Me too, I noticed that the ban came right after his announcements. If they're trying to shut him down now, they are too late IMO, because Peterson now has such a huge reach. Even the mainstream (conservative) press seems to be fully behind him and ran the "Peterson got censored" story far and wide. Well-played, professor!

I found this recent snippet from his biblical lecture both very deep and hilarious, what a great analogy on how to live a good life:



:rockon:, Jordan!
 
Siberia said:
Jordan Peterson‏ has tweeted the following:

Google has disabled my main account. No explanation given. Cannot access my YouTube channel.

Jordan Peterson has tweeted today:

I'll be speaking with him later today, and the conversation will be posted on YouTube.

"Him" means James Damore, the engineer at Google who has been fired for expressing his views about Google policies:
https://www.rt.com/usa/398920-google-damore-gender-equality/
 
Siberia said:
"Him" means James Damore, the engineer at Google who has been fired for expressing his views about Google policies:
https://www.rt.com/usa/398920-google-damore-gender-equality/

Interesting, I followed this story a bit on facebook - you can read the full memo here: _http://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320

It strikes me that the guy was heavily influences by Peterson - he reproduces many of his arguments almost verbatim! (The comment section btw is a good example of the absolutely horrible and brutal insanity of the lala-liberals.)

So here we are: totalitarian thought control, you are forbidden to say 1+1=2, if you do so: fired! The guy's letter was actually quite intelligent and reasonable; if this is what this society suppresses these days in favor of ridiculous clichés and "official language", then we are doomed. It is insane.
 
Siberia said:
Siberia said:
Jordan Peterson‏ has tweeted the following:

Google has disabled my main account. No explanation given. Cannot access my YouTube channel.

Jordan Peterson has tweeted today:

I'll be speaking with him later today, and the conversation will be posted on YouTube.

"Him" means James Damore, the engineer at Google who has been fired for expressing his views about Google policies:
https://www.rt.com/usa/398920-google-damore-gender-equality/

Wow, that'll REALLY provoke the YT censors at Google.
 
luc said:
Siberia said:
"Him" means James Damore, the engineer at Google who has been fired for expressing his views about Google policies:
https://www.rt.com/usa/398920-google-damore-gender-equality/

Interesting, I followed this story a bit on facebook - you can read the full memo here: _http://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320

...

Gizmodo removed the reference links and graphs, check this out:

http://diversitymemo.com/
 
Joe said:
Wow, that'll REALLY provoke the YT censors at Google.

Yep, but I do hope this memo story will backfire, again - more exposure for Peterson and his ideas, more people getting fed up with the nonsense and coming out, the "diversity" mind hack exposed for what it is etc. It's becoming incredibly hard to believe all the BS and 'they' need to spend more and more energy to feed their lies... Yet many people will still choose the lie I guess. I feel like we are living in Stephen King's "The Stand" - the end is near; it's choosing time.
 
Siberia said:
Siberia said:
Here is the interview with ex-Google engineer:


The full version of the interview is now available:


And here is also his interview with Stefan Molyneux which is also interesting:





https://www.axios.com/googles-diversity-efforts-are-making-little-progress-2470784457.html
Google's diversity efforts fall flat


In 2014, Google started publishing employee demographic data and pledging to invest in major initiatives to recruit a more diverse workforce, spending at least $265 million on the efforts.

Why it matters: Google has been thrown into the controversy over Silicon Valley's lack of diversity and sexist culture by an internal memo by a (now former) employee ascribing some of the tech industry's gender gap to biological differences. The memo also suggested the company's efforts to hire a more diverse workforce have been ineffective.

On that point, the memo isn't far off. Axios took a look at the data released by the company over the last few years.

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Bottom line: Despite Google and its parent company's public statements in support of diversity in technology and multiple outreach and community programs, it seems to have made little headway since it began publishing its workforce demographic data three years ago. For example, U.S. Latino employees now make up 5% of the overall workforce and professional jobs, up from 3% each in 2013, and women now hold 13% of leadership positions, up from 8%. At the same time, black employees still only make up 2% of all U.S. jobs, 2% of technical ones, and 3% of executive roles.

Google declined to provide additional information when asked how it evaluates the effectiveness of its efforts, pointing to its diversity website.

Some progress: Of course, it can be argued that these changes take time. Google has also highlighted the demographic makeup of each year's new hires to show results from its efforts. In 2015, for example, 21% of its new technical hires were women, while women held only 19% of all tech jobs at the company at the time.

Methodology: Axios used government EEO-1 reports filed by the companies that shows the racial and gender breakdown of their U.S. employees. We used "Professional" employees as a proxy for technical jobs, though the category does include other professions like accountants and lawyers.





https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6os3hz/ethics_githubs_diversity_and_inclusion_executive/

Fascinating Reddit post about what happened in GitHub. The actual post on Reddit has links embedded that lead to original articles so go there if interested in that.

On July 14, BuzzFeed ran a story with the headline "The Woman Hired To Fix GitHub’s Troubled Culture Is Leaving, And Employees Are Worried". Besides Nicole Sanchez happening to "resign" from GitHub shortly after the creator of the beloved Contributor Covenant's firing, attempt to quietly get a job via Twitter while concealing said firing, and then open hate letter on how she did nothing wrong and it was important that people know this (aside: this bit of context is curiously absent from the BuzzFeed article), there was one other bit of news:
But some employees worry the company’s resolve has faltered in recent months, as financial pressure has escalated and the social impact team lost some of its initial support.

The inability of GitHub to finance a "diversity program" after suffering a $66 million shortfall is worded in a way you'd expect to the average BuzzFeed reader to appreciate. Personally, I appreciate the editorial restraint for not adding "Why GitHub is too proud to continue demanding financial assistance from an increasingly distant group of relatives venture capitalists is beyond me."

Despite looking through a shroud of toxic politics and financial illiteracy, BuzzFeed discovered a likely culprit for both departures: Nicole Sanchez played a direct role in hiring Coraline Ada and cited both Coraline's identity as a trans woman and the Contributor Covenant (tl;dr) as rationalizations for a senior technical position.

And what kind of salary does a 500 word document command? Despite holding down a job for an average of, at most, 1 year for 5 years running before hire, Coraline was taken on to the tune of $240,000 a year. Coraline also did not last a year (again) at GitHub, wrote a nastygram to change things up, and GitHub became the boogeyman for the latest "sexism in tech" articles with Coraline's employment history consistently omitted.

And while Coraline has been the most vocal of Nicole's overpaid political hires, she is probably not the only.
So GitHub drove out their CEO at the behest of yet another one of these riot fetishists (tl;dr), hired all the right people at all the right paygrades, and lost at least $66 million in the process. When GitHub has to shut down this VC-funded charity because they only thing they did was make employees uncomfortable and give $240,000 salaries to friends, the only narrative BuzzFeed and their ilk consistently hammer is that the company's inability to keep paying political hires is institutional oppression.

At this point the choices are:
GitHub management can bring the company back to "its meritocratic roots". This has the advantage of being less work in practice and the disadvantage that BuzzFeed and riot fetishists will not be as willing to invite management to parties and talk about how much of an abstractly-defined "difference" they are making.

GitHub management can continue to pretend their bosses are not their customers, investors, and employees but rather BuzzFeed and riot fetishists. They double-down on the politics espoused by the BuzzFeed types on the war path with the obligatory conference cancellations and repository nukes, find an ideological clone of Sanchez's, and start up a new "social impact team" with 22 members, an average starting salary of $480,000/year, and an average pre-employ tenure of 6 months.



Now look at this figure-head over here. Upon the question of was there sexism in the silicon valley she came up with "people interrupting her". and "microagressions". Jesus Christ. She also talks like a teenager. Uses "like" all the time. Doesn't articulate her thoughts well AT ALL and and doesn't finish her thoughts quickly or precisely (maybe that's why she's being interrupted :lol:). And she's CEO.

But tell me how oppressed women are.

However you could make the argument that pushing incompetent women into leadership positions like this just so you can have a woman figure head and signal how progressive you are as a company is "oppression" in a weird way. Because she's clearly lost her bloody mind.

 
Timótheos said:
After reading this article, I couldn't help but wonder if the similar rise in both gender dysphoria issues and autism spectrum disorders in the last few decades is not related somehow to the mass vaccination campaign so many young people have beed subjected to since the 1980's.

Myself, I think you have a point, there is an environmental influence. Vaccinations may be involved, but endocrine/hormonal disruptors in the environment are also having a great effect. eg. estrogen mimicers.
 
Jordan Peterson and Camille Paglia Discuss Each Other (7:02)
Published on Jul 8, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqdSXPk9FVc
This is a combination of two separate clips, one with Jordan Peterson and the other with Camille Paglia. They discuss each other, their ideas, and the humanities in education generally

An interesting perspective by Camille Paglia on Transgenderism, and cycling down falls of humanity.
Aug 12, 2017
 
With regards to Damore's Google memo and women in tech, maybe it's interesting to look at technical hobbies to get a better picture - because there are no financial incentives there, so we might assume that people are only following their interests. In a technical hobby I'm involved in, amateur radio, it's about 90% guys. I wonder whether this is not a more truthful number in terms of the different interests of men and women. To get involved in a technical hobby, you really have to like this stuff!

I wouldn't be surprised if for every 10 men, there is only one woman, pehaps even less, who is highly interested in technical stuff, tinkering and so on. I mean, even in tech companies, how many women do the actual tinkering? How many LOVE to spend their time crawling around and soldering cables, putting together electronics, or doing hardcore low-level programming and so on?

Hands down, how many girls/women do you know who love to spend their weekends in the basement tinkering? Who get excited by technical experiments that seem pretty useless practically, just for the joy of it?

Or, with regards to "leadership", how many women do you know who like working like crazy to climb the corporate ladder, found a company with the goal of making it big, resulting in a life where they sleep at the company and basically work on it 24/7? And does the fact that most aren't interested in such a lifestyle make them worse?

I mean, we all know these things, we can all observe it. Yes, there are women infected with the postmodernist nonsense who will say this is all due to "oppression". But is there oppression in technical hobbies, where there's not much to gain anyway? I don't think so, on the contrary, women are kind of superstars in these fields because they are so rare and guys will welcome them with open arms, at least in my experience.

That women and men have different interests is just so blatantly obvious, it's really staggering how this toxic postmodernist ideology managed to completely shut down common sense and what we've all known for all our life... Just some thoughts.
 
Warning, this is not satire


Greek Life retreat cancelled after banana peel found in tree:
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9679

A Greek Life retreat at the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) was promptly cancelled this weekend after a banana peel was found hanging in a tree.
A student said he threw the peel because he could not find a garbage can, but the incident made some students uneasy, so the school “felt it was imperative to provide space immediately to students affected by this incident.
...
“The overall tone was heavy. I mean, we were talking about race in Mississippi and in the Greek community so there’s a lot involved,” McNeil recalled, later adding that she and her friend were “all just sort of paranoid for a second” after spotting the banana.
...
According to The DM, some students left the retreat in tears, with McNeil noting that they “didn’t feel welcome” and “didn’t feel safe.”

This is one of those where you are lost for words. It is like, so unbelievably off the charts of absurd that it offends the brain to even think about this and come up with an appropriate response.

Normal people are gonna pick a side soon if this madness carries on, and they won't be siding with these 2 year olds.
 

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