Just had a terrifying experience

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

Hi all

I've just had a terrifying experience in the middle of the night which I need to share.

I was alone in the house as my wife and son have gone to her parents for the weekend. I'd been asleep for about two hours and had a very unpleasant and disturbing dream. Now this wan't just a 'bad dream', I have them all the time and just accept them as matter of course I don't know what exactly was happening to me but it was horrible as I felt drugged in my dream and couldn't move properly or see properly. I was in a bed (in my dream) and was desperately trying to gain my faculties and knew that something was terribly wrong and something was attacking me. I was struggling against whatever was incapacitating me and in my dream I think I managed to sit up in the bed I was in and start pipe breathing upon which I actually woke up.

On waking up I was trembling and felt the presence of something really nasty in the room. I suspect I was in a state something akin to medical shock as I couldn't stop shaking and just felt really scared. I started to do some pipe breaths to try and calm myself down but this didn't work at all and I then started to realise that there was 'something' around/inside my chest/heart chakra from which this was emanating.

I then started to do prayer of the soul. Well, I can tell you, whatever this thing was did not like it. I started feeling a little better as soon as I started the prayer but then half way through, started shaking really violently all over whilst felt there started to be a huge concentration of pressure around my chest. It wasn't physical pressure, more like the most extreme negative energy that you could imagine gathering in a ball around that area. This was accompanied by something like extreme gosebumps all over my body, except they felt energetic and not physical if that makes sense. I just want to say here that this was not a panic attack, I've had them before and this was not remotely similar.

All I can say is that it seemed this something was clinging on for life around that area. I felt like there was something literally about to come out of my chest but if it did it might take me with it and if I saw the damn thing, it ight just scare me to death. I was shaking so violently by this point that and was so scared that I just couldn't carry on with the prayer, was terrified to see what it might be and just I felt my own death was imminent if I carried on

I managed to get out of bed, roll a cigarette and carrying on pipe breathing. I started the POTS again but had the same reaction and my body just went into complete spasm's and had to stop. After pipe breathing for a while I felt a little better and I then started talking to this 'thing' (Iknow, I hope you don't think I'm insane), saying that it was a violation of my free will, I wanted it out/away and I was conciously requesting that it leave as it had no right to interact with me in this manner. This provoked exactly the same reaction, namely sending my body in spasms and just feeling this incredibly powerful negative energy around me. so I just carried on with the pipe breath until I was able to come and post here.

Well, whatever happened or whatever this 'thing' was, I've just had the worst night of my life. I suspect some kind of spirit attachment rather than an abduction/attempted abduction but who really knows? It's a disturbing thought that it may be still with me. I don't know if anyone can help or offer advice even.

It's 6:30 in the morning here so I have to get some sleep if I can

 

[shijing]

Hi Pai --

This sounds like a terrible experience, and based on what you described, I can't think of what I would have done differently. I also don't have any specific advice, as I have never dealt with anything like this before -- I see you're online, and I wanted to give you some moral support before you try to go back to sleep. The only thing I can think to tell you is to try to take care of yourself physically, continue to pipe-breathe as necessary, and perhaps someone else will have some more concrete advice. Take care!

 

[abbyjo]

Pai,

I think you did good!

I had a very similar experience last week, not in a dream. I was eating a spring roll on the porch, took a small bite and it got stuck in my windpipe, i was choking and felt pain in the center of my chest...i made it to my son's room and then immediately felt better, coughed up a little piece of springroll...but for a few moments there it felt like I was not going to make it. This sort of thing has happened before, including the shaking/chills and lots of temperature variations in our apartment not explained by maintenance....

Try silk? Please continue to share...I for one do not think you are the least bit insane.

(((((Pai)))))

abbyjo

 

[Brewer]

Hey Pai

I had a few of these happen to me in the mid the late 70s. As far as I can tell you did pretty good! Well done!

Keep it up and don't let em get you down!

Brewer

 

[Laura]

Boy, I sure remember going through all this sort of thing! It was definitely gruelling! I guess it is like the "haunted forest" of grail quests - a test. You might like to read Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With a Thousand Faces" for additional insight.

 

[RedFox]

Hi Pai
Hope you are doing ok! I've had a whole bunch of experiences like this throughout my life since early childhood.....with no context or guidance it can be beyond terrifying.
I'd forgotton about it but I had a very similar experience about 2 weeks ago now (most of these seem to occur at my girlfriends at the moment, which is worrying....perhaps she/her family is vectoring?)...
Well it was about 3/4am and I woke up feeling uneasy, with waves of prickly heat/cold (that gave me goose bumps) washing over me, and the feeling that there was something trying to 'get in' (just outside the bedroom door and window). That it was sat there just waiting for my guard to be lowered or me to fall asleep.
I did some pipe breathing and the POTS and the feeling just got so much worse.....I had the same thought as you:

After pipe breathing for a while I felt a little better and I then started talking to this 'thing' (Iknow, I hope you don't think I'm insane), saying that it was a violation of my free will, I wanted it out/away and I was conciously requesting that it leave as it had no right to interact with me in this manner. This provoked exactly the same reaction, namely sending my body in spasms and just feeling this incredibly powerful negative energy around me. so I just carried on with the pipe breath until I was able to come and post here.

...not only me but there was my girlfriend, and her two sons spread out sleeping in the house too. Boy did this make me angry, the thought of this thing violating (because that's what it felt like) the others who where all sound asleep. I'd been through that and wouldn't wish it on anyone (at least this is what I thought at the time...but maybe that's determining the needs of others??)
So I did pipe breathing and POTS at the same time and just sort of used my will as a wall between me and it (kept it out of the room with me and my girlfriend in), then when that felt solid I put myself (mentally) between it and her eldest son, and then again when that felt solid I put myself (mentally) between it and her youngest, whilst continuing to pipe breath and recite the POTS.
I stayed awake and did this until the pressure/presence left....which was about 2 hours later.

I don't know if I did right (I do just wonder if the whole things wishful thinking/delusion sometimes).....funny, I'd completely forgotten about this until I read your thread pai. Thanks for posting.
I realise I may have over extended myself.....that block was still in place.....may explain my health problems this last few weeks. hmm

 

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

Hi all

Thanks for your responses and support!

Hi Pai --

I can't think of what I would have done differently.

Take care!

Pai,

I think you did good!

I had a few of these happen to me in the mid the late 70s. As far as I can tell you did pretty good! Well done!

Keep it up and don't let em get you down!

Well yes, I did all I could at the time. It was a shame that I couldn't continue with the POTS as I felt that the 'something' was on the verge of exiting had I continued but the negative energy was simply too powerful to keep it up. It was as if two forces were being pulled in opposite directions to their most extreme points and if I carried on then something was going to snap which I felt could be myself/my life. I can say without question that this 'thing' did not like and certainly felt 'threatened' by prayer of the Soul and was using everything it had to get get me to stop.

Boy, I sure remember going through all this sort of thing! It was definitely gruelling! I guess it is like the "haunted forest" of grail quests - a test. You might like to read Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With a Thousand Faces" for additional insight.

Hi Laura, yes, gruelling is the word, my gosh. And terrifying. What's interesting is that I've had the first part of the experience, waking with an extreme palpable negative energy in the room about 3-4 times in the last year.

It's usually followed by some horrific dream and very sudden waking. What was different this time was that the recital of POTS seemed to 'locate' this energy as emanating from myself and specifically around the heart chakra. Again, if I could have withstood the force of the energy, I swear something would have just popped out of my chest.

I'll have a look at campbell's book, I read some of it years ago, about Jungian archetypes yes? I think my brother has a copy. I think I may also get hold of something on spirit releasement just to see what i may be dealing with here.

Well it was about 3/4am and I woke up feeling uneasy, with waves of prickly heat/cold (that gave me goose bumps) washing over me, and the feeling that there was something trying to 'get in' (just outside the bedroom door and window). That it was sat there just waiting for my guard to be lowered or me to fall asleep.
I did some pipe breathing and the POTS and the feeling just got so much worse

Hi Redfox

Thanks for sharing your experience. As you say, with no context or guidance these events would be even more devastating. What you've written above sounds very similar to my own last night, especially the 'prickly heat/cold washing over me' which just feels like horrible intense 'negative' energy. Yes, the feeling gets so much worse upon practicing POTS which to me means that to some extent it's working as it evidently provokes the necessity for a more intense attack.

I don't know if I did right (I do just wonder if the whole things wishful thinking/delusion sometimes)
I realise I may have over extended myself.....that block was still in place.....may explain my health problems this last few weeks. hmm

I think you probably did everything right and the Predator would like you to believe that you're just wishfully thinking. I feel that Pipe breathing/POTS along with mental focusing to repel such intrusions are the best tools we have. They at once help us to connect with our higher selves but also send a clear message to the predator that we are not victims and will not simply lie down and accept being attacked in this manner.

Regarding health problems, this is an interesting connection. As I mentioned in responding to Laura, similar events have happened to me a few times over the last year and every time they have occurred when I've been run down and my 'vibration' has been low. Twice last year, these events happened when I'd been drinking alcohol for a few days in a row.

This time around I haven't actually done EE for ages as I've had a chronic chest infection for about the last 3 weeks which I just can't seem to shake. So it seems that such events seem to manifest when I'm at my weakest physically.

Then again, I'm also pondering a chicken and egg type situation. I'm currently undergoing a whole load of investigations for a range of persistent health problems I have. I've been referred to an ME specialist for fatigue and also have an MRI scan for a fairly constant headache which I've had for years. I'm now considering the possibility that something slightly 'other worldly' may be playing a part in all this although of course I need to keep an open mind about this and avoid getting involved in any wishful/unwishful thinking!

 

[Gaby]

This time around I haven't actually done EE for ages as I've had a chronic chest infection for about the last 3 weeks which I just can't seem to shake. So it seems that such events seem to manifest when I'm at my weakest physically.

Then again, I'm also pondering a chicken and egg type situation. I'm currently undergoing a whole load of investigations for a range of persistent health problems I have. I've been referred to an ME specialist for fatigue and also have an MRI scan for a fairly constant headache which I've had for years. I'm now considering the possibility that something slightly 'other worldly' may be playing a part in all this although of course I need to keep an open mind about this and avoid getting involved in any wishful/unwishful thinking!

Terrifying experience indeed! But strengthening and cleansing. It might well have a connection to your health.

For the chest problem, you can increase your dose of vitamin C and take also some N-acetylcysteine (NAC) which you can get in the pharmacy, at least depending on your location. NAC helps to "clean" the chest and it has the plus of being a super anti-oxidant which helps to detoxify as well. You can take it 4 times a day (or depending on symptoms) for some days to see how it goes, I think it can make a difference.

Sending you more strength and courage

 

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

This time around I haven't actually done EE for ages as I've had a chronic chest infection for about the last 3 weeks which I just can't seem to shake. So it seems that such events seem to manifest when I'm at my weakest physically.

Then again, I'm also pondering a chicken and egg type situation. I'm currently undergoing a whole load of investigations for a range of persistent health problems I have. I've been referred to an ME specialist for fatigue and also have an MRI scan for a fairly constant headache which I've had for years. I'm now considering the possibility that something slightly 'other worldly' may be playing a part in all this although of course I need to keep an open mind about this and avoid getting involved in any wishful/unwishful thinking!

Terrifying experience indeed! But strengthening and cleansing. It might well have a connection to your health.

For the chest problem, you can increase your dose of vitamin C and take also some N-acetylcysteine (NAC) which you can get in the pharmacy, at least depending on your location. NAC helps to "clean" the chest and it has the plus of being a super anti-oxidant which helps to detoxify as well. You can take it 4 times a day (or depending on symptoms) for some days to see how it goes, I think it can make a difference.

Sending you more strength and courage

Thanks for your support Pysche

I've been really out of the game over the last few weeks with this infection so I'll see if I can get hold of some NAC tomorrow.

Cheers :)

 

[Thomas Alan]

Hi, Pai:

Hope you're ok. I think you did well in telling the entity to get lost. When I was a kid I had many of these kind of experiences as did other members of our household. I slept with the light on for years and was often afraid when I was in the house alone.

One day when I was about 15 I was alone in the house. There came the familiar feeling of a powerful presence in the room. The hair on the back of my neck stood up. I was really scared. At this point I had really had enough. I said aloud. "I don't know who you are or what you want but I am getting tired of this. I want you to go away and not bother me again." It worked. The experiences, at least for me stopped and did not return. (Well, some years later in a different context, but that's another story.)


Take care, keep Breathing and POTS. Powerful protection indeed. No entity is all powerful. It will probably move on to easier prey.

Mac

 

[Ben]

Hi Pai, I've had several similar experiences to this which I have posted about on the forum. I know what you mean about the worst night of your life - the first time really was. For me these experiences became fairly common but I haven't experienced one for a long time now. I became more and more firm in my intention to not provide the 'entity', if that's what it was, with anything that it might be seeking from me and reject its presence. I had to be careful not to become complacent and overestimate my ability to do this, we are dealing with something we cannot possibly fully understand at this point. I think you did the right thing by trying not to get carried away in your fear, if only I'd also known about pipe breathing at the time I would have done it too.

 

[WIN 52]

Psyche - can NAC help with chest phlegm, in general. Three years of detox has helped significantly, but the chest phlegm continues. Dr's call it "gorp", with no suggestion for a cure. My dad passed away one year ago. He also had a bad case of gorp. The Dr's said lung cancer, but they had no tests proving cancer.

 

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

I know what you mean about the worst night of your life - the first time really was. For me these experiences became fairly common but I haven't experienced one for a long time now. I became more and more firm in my intention to not provide the 'entity', if that's what it was, with anything that it might be seeking from me and reject its presence. I had to be careful not to become complacent and overestimate my ability to do this, we are dealing with something we cannot possibly fully understand at this point. .

Hope you're ok. I think you did well in telling the entity to get lost. When I was a kid I had many of these kind of experiences as did other members of our household. I slept with the light on for years and was often afraid when I was in the house alone.

One day when I was about 15 I was alone in the house. There came the familiar feeling of a powerful presence in the room. The hair on the back of my neck stood up. I was really scared. At this point I had really had enough. I said aloud. "I don't know who you are or what you want but I am getting tired of this. I want you to go away and not bother me again." It worked. The experiences, at least for me stopped and did not return. (Well, some years later in a different context, but that's another story.)

Hi guys

Just wanted express my appreciation for sharing really. It's comforting to know that one is not completely alone and isolated in experiencing such trials. Apart from the folks here and my Wife there is no one else in the world I can talk to regarding these episodes.

Discussing this earlier, my Wife raised the sad point that there have probably been countless individuals who have been locked up and drugged by the ponerized 'Rationalist' Pyschiatric establishment due to encounters such as these.

Sincere thanks to all of you

 

[NSD]

I know the feeling of that experience and remember it good and asking myself can this happen again. Starts like yours Pai, I was in my parents house alone and all was good till after midnight i fall in sleep on sofa in living room with TV and some light on, and i dreamed many times good dreams an bad and i know how it looks real dream but this was real or i think that is like real. I open my eyes an look on wall clock and see that i wake up early only slept 2 hours then i notice women in living room standing like she was waiting me to wake up, immediately i asked her what she doing here and how she get inside an who is she in same time i was approaching and put arms on her shoulders she smiled only then in same time i notice lights outside like some more people come near house with cars, she say to me that some people waiting us outside and she started to go to main door, i didn't wanted to go an i was puling her to stay inside and explain me who is she and who wait us outside, i can hear some noises from outside of house.Near door i noticed that something is wrong and then started strange fear and i wake up with that fear and i could not sleep and i didn't calm down till day light. that was last summer and when i share this fear coming up. Intresting is that all in this "dream" was like in real interior of house, lights and time on clock. What i notice when fear was coming up is that some brick's was missing in house interior because of that i forced to wake up or whatever. I didn't speak to much about that experience till now and don't know what happened and what was meaning of that experience.

 

[Windmill knight]

Hey Pai, I'm glad you shared because I suspect the awareness of the group will make you stronger next time something like this happens. I'll keep you in my mind and prayers - if you don't mind!