Killary Clinton, The Donald, or Jill Stein: The US Election

9/11 truth is far from death. :perfect:


Green Party’s Jill Stein Pledges 'Truth' About 9/11 Attacks if Elected President

US Green Party Presidential bid Jill Stein claimed that as an elected president she would launch a new investigation into the 9/11 attacks, because the probe carried out during the George W. Bush Administration defrauded the nation.”
https://sputniknews.com/us/20160911/1045184973/jill-stein-truth-september-11-attacks.html

In a statement published on her campaign site, Stein said that Americans “want and deserve a comprehensive and independent” probe into the 9/11, which they haven’t gotten so far.


[quote author= Jill Stein tweet]The families and friends of those who were murdered on 9/11 deserve justice. They also deserve to know the truth.

Led by the families of those who died on 9/11, the American people wanted- and deserved- a comprehensive and independent inquiry into the attacks. The Bush Administration initially said an inquiry was unnecessary, claiming that the perpetrators had been identified and their methods and motives were clear.

It is well known that the 9/11 Commission produced a report containing so many omissions and distortions that Harper’s Magazine described it as ‘’whitewash as public service’’ – a document that ‘’defrauds the nation.’’ The Co-chairs of the 9/11 commision wrote a book just two years after the final commission report, saying, ‘’we were set up to fail.’’ The 9/11 Commision was not given enough money, time or acess to relevant classified information.

The Stein/Baraka capagin believes a new inquiry is necessary.[/quote]

“The Bush Administration initially said an inquiry was unnecessary, claiming that the perpetrators had been identified and their methods and motives were clear,” she said of the 9/11 Commission study.

The report conducted by 9/11 Commission in 2004 that the attacks happened because of the failures by both the FBI and the CIA, which had fallen short of acting wiser and aggressively to prevent the tragedy. Stein said that the paper had scores of “omissions and distortions” that, in fact, worked to whitewash the facts.

Presenting evidence to her theory, she cited the 9/11 Commission members, who wrote a book on the inquiry conditions two years after the report, unveiling that the investigators “were set up to fail.” “The 9/11 Commission was not given enough money, time, or access to relevant classified information,” she stressed. As the elected US president, the Green Party hopeful pledged a renewed push for finding the “truth,” by initiating a probe where investigators “would have access to the considerable body of responsible independent research that has emerged over the last 15 years.” She also said a separate commission on 9/11, consisting of people with no interest “in protecting the reputation and careers of foreign affairs and intelligence communities,” would be gathered.

As of now, Stein has a 3.3 percent level of support among electorate, according to the most recent RealClearPolitics poll.

The statement appeared in the wake of the legislation allowing victims and families of 9/11 attacks to sue Saudi Arabia for their losses was adopted by the US House of Representatives. The September 11 terror attacks were conducted by al-Qaeda in 2001. The group of perpetrators at the time hijacked four planes, of which two were crashed in the World Trade Center’s buildings, the third in the Pentagon headquarters in Washington and the fourth crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania. The attacks claimed the lives of 2,996 people.
 
Green Party’s Jill Stein Pledges 'Truth' About 9/11 Attacks if Elected President
https://sputniknews.com/us/20160911/1045184973/jill-stein-truth-september-11-attacks.html
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The September 11 terror attacks were conducted by al-Qaeda in 2001. The group of perpetrators at the time hijacked four planes, of which two were crashed in the World Trade Center’s buildings, the third in the Pentagon headquarters in Washington and the fourth crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania. The attacks claimed the lives of 2,996 people.
 
Jill Stein does not appear on the NC absentee ballot. Gary Johnson is on there.
 
I just saw this news item on RT's quick news reporter program [a firefox add-on]: and suddenly knew the following..
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I got this strong feeling looking at the first on news item on RT's quick news reporter program [a firefox add-on]:

The excellent tacticians ['geopolitical army'] of Putin knows there is a good chance that Hillary might win and they then expect all hell breaking loose regards militarism and terrorism. I felt the Russians have calculated that suddenly wars & chaos breaking out at multiple places: US boots on the ground here, US bombers flying there, US ships amassing at other geographical positions, completely illegally and on top of these they expect that additional, progressively crazy decisions will be announced by Hillary.

I think the Russians very much expect this and by now they have several developed and tried military technologies up their sleeves so they are confident they can neutralize anything the US throws at them. Defending Russia the Motherland will probably come first before anybody else, of course.

I got the feeling the Russians are confident they can handle what the Hillary demon and the US 5th Column team throws at them.

- - - - (that's it, the above was it all) - - -

...
On the other hand, the combination of supra-human technology that brought down the twin towers got me thinking.. obviously _that_ would make human military a swatted fly in a jiffy, but who knows?
Maybe 4thD STS' hands are tied as they are obliged to respect something like the "Law of Universal Balance" or Quorum-level decrees [if any] in effect regards intervention by anything higher than a 3rdD party. If 4thD STS helped to bring down the towers, isn't there a possibility that the Russians might got a call assuring same guaranteed help [
- Hey, we are 4thD good guys and we got your back!
] a sort of a message that they are protected in case 4thD STS tries that twin-tower super-weapon tech again, but this time on the Russians.

Anyway, its probably a silly train of thought.
 
[quote author= lilies]On the other hand, the combination of supra-human technology that brought down the twin towers got me thinking.. obviously _that_ would make human military a swatted fly in a jiffy, but who knows?
Maybe 4thD STS' hands are tied as they are obliged to respect something like the "Law of Universal Balance" or Quorum-level decrees [if any] in effect regards intervention by anything higher than a 3rdD party. If 4thD STS helped to bring down the towers, isn't there a possibility that the Russians might got a call assuring same guaranteed help [
- Hey, we are 4thD good guys and we got your back!
] a sort of a message that they are protected in case 4thD STS tries that twin-tower super-weapon tech again, but this time on the Russians.

Anyway, its probably a silly train of thought. [/quote]

I wonder about to, But I don't see any or much of their tech (consortium) integrated with US regular army. I think they rather keep themselves exclusively and not part of any country. They just use countries and they can do so because of their gap in technological advancements. If they start sharing this they might lose their advantage.

So whatever attack they might rain down on Russia. I think it would be limited, I mean how many of those space sat weapons do they have? And how many nukes does Russia have. I don't know but it could be like one gun against thousands of swords, if you know what I mean.

Besides according to the C's Russia has equivalent weaponry in some area's compared to the secret gov/consortium.


As for 4STS. Whatever happens in the global arena, whatever Russia is now. It might be completely different over 50 or 100 years. They literally have the time to undo whatever was gained? Or they sure like to think so. This progress is just an inch on a km of our timeline. So I hope Putin will build something that is meant to endure and last. Otherwise through 4STS effort everything could be teared apart again. 4STS would rather fight this battle out in this way I think. Them pointing their weapons at Russia may expose the man behind the curtain, or shake up people believe system in such a way that it will do them more damage than good. Most important thing is to keep in check our evolution of consciousness. That means they have to keep working in the shadows and not expose themselves.


[quote author= lilies]there a possibility that the Russians might got a call assuring same guaranteed help [
- Hey, we are 4thD good guys and we got your back![/quote]

Maybe in the form of planetary destruction/ comets, 4STS has to accept some balance on the planet otherwise they lose it all. And about STO intervention, I think it rarely occurs, depends if it is part of the natural course of events or not?
 
Most polls are rigged. However, since the establishment seems to support Hillary, there might be some truth in a poll showing Trump's victory:

Trump Soars In Latest Polls: Sees 5 Point Lead In Ohio And Latest LA Times National Poll

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-14/trump-soars-latest-polls-sees-5-point-lead-ohio-4-point-advantage-latest-national-po

Proving that Trump's recent strategic shift to keep his mouth shut and let the media focus on the ongoing fallout from Hillary's "basket of deplorables" comment as well as her recent health scare, has been successful, Bloomberg reported this morning that Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by 5% points in a Bloomberg Politics poll of Ohio, a key battleground state that has backed the winning presidential candidate in every election since 1964. The gap "underscores the Democrat’s challenges in critical Rust Belt states after one of the roughest stretches of her campaign."

The Republican nominee leads Clinton 48 percent to 43 percent among likely voters in a two-way contest and 44 percent to 39 percent when third-party candidates are included.

The Bloomberg poll was taken Friday through Monday, as Clinton faced backlash for saying half of Trump supporters were a “basket of deplorables” and amid renewed concerns about her health after a video showed her stumbling as she left a Sept. 11 ceremony with what her campaign later said was a bout of pneumonia.

According to Bloomberg, Trump’s performance in the poll, which features strength among men, independents, and union households, is better than in other recent surveys of the state. It deals a blow to Clinton after she enjoyed polling advantages nationally and in most battleground states in August before the race tightened in September as more Republican voters unified around Trump.

Why the surge? Darren Roberts, 45, a facilities maintenance and home improvement retail worker who lives in Columbus and considers himself an independent, provided a simple explanation: “I’m tired of career politicians being in office and nothing’s ever changed. I don’t like all of his policies, but I really don’t like Hillary Clinton’s.”

In other words, in the race between the two most unpopular candidates in US presidential history, Hillary suddenly finds herself on the back foot. Indeed, Trump's strength in Ohio, a state critical to his path to the White House, comes even as seven in 10 say they view one of his signature campaign pledges, to build a wall along the southern U.S. border funded by Mexico, as unrealistic.

The survey shows a strong majority of likely Ohio voters, 57 percent, are skeptical of trade deals such as the North American Free Trade Agreement that was backed by Bill Clinton when he was president and that Trump has used to his political advantage. One in five say such deals help increase exports and employment, and 23 percent aren’t sure. More than four in 10 Clinton supporters see NAFTA as a bad deal, compared to seven in 10 Trump loyalists.

And in more good news for the Trump campaign, at the national level, the latest LA Times poll, aka "USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times "Daybreak" poll", which tracks about 3,000 eligible voters, and which has shown a modest pro-Trump bias in recent polling, found that his advantage over Hillary has jumped to 4%, the widest lead for the republican candidate since late July when he was riding high on the back of the post-RNC convention.

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While Trump maintains his lead among whites (55% to 33.1%) and "other" voters, Hillary's lead among Black and Latino voters continues, despite a surprising downtick in Hillary support among the black community, as Trump support here has spiked to the highest since polling began. Also as expected, Trump's lead among males has not only maintained but has risen to 54.5%, also the highest since polling began, while Hillary's support among women voters remains comfortable 48.5% to 39.0%.

But what is more surprising is the education/income split, where college grads and higher educated voters support Hillary 48.3% to 39% for Trump, even as those making more than $75,000 are now decidedly in Trump's camp, with some 49.2% of the vote to 40.6% for Hillary. Among low income voters, Hillary remains the dominant choice, with 51.1% of the vote to 37.6% for Trump.

With less than two months left until the election, Trump may have found the winning formula: stick to his core rhetoric, make no ridiculous statements, and force the media to focus its attention on the suddenly imperiled Hillary campaign. It remains to be seen if he can sustain this. To be sure, the biggest wildcard in the campaign will be the first debate between the two candidates which will likely lead to another dramatic shift in the voter calculus.
 
Pardon Edward Snowden, now
Jill Stein

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/pardon-edward-snowden-jill-stein

On 6 June 2013, the Guardian broke the news, National Security Agency (NSA) had ordered Verizon to provide it with the phone records of its customers. As the story developed it became clear that the two other major telephone networks as well as credit card companies were doing the same thing; and that the NSA and FBI were being provided with access to server systems operated by Google, Apple, Facebook, Yahoo, Microsoft and Skype.

On 11 June the Guardian reported the source as Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old who had been working at the NSA for four years.

Snowden believed it was important for him to publicly acknowledge his role in order to provide a human face to the story. He knew he was putting his life at risk and exposing himself to decades of incarceration. “My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them,” he explained. Snowden hoped to trigger a debate “about the kind of world we want to live in”. The US government began an immediate campaign to track, harass and silence him.

More revelations followed that exposed a massive national security complex that spies on virtually everyone, everywhere. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA), which is a secret court that was supposed to protect our privacy rights, was rubber-stamping every NSA request for the authority to spy without any real oversight. The US government was spying on foreign leaders, working with British spies to collect massive amounts of global data across the planet, and collecting over 200 million text messages daily. And the NSA was working to stop encryption (a technology developed to protect the privacy of both private individuals and businesses).

NSA director James Clapper was forced to acknowledge that he had given false testimony to Congress about NSA spying on Americans, and that Snowden’s leaks had created a healthy public debate about the balance between privacy and national security. “It’s clear that some of the conversations this has generated, some of the debate, actually needed to happen,” he said. Even Barack Obama admitted that the revelations required the US to re-think how we uphold “the civil liberties and privacy protections that our ideals – and our Constitution – require.”

Federal judges ruled that such massive collection of citizens’ metadata without any connection to a particular investigation was patently illegal, essentially vindicating Snowden. His goal was to tell the truth about the government spying on all of us, and to create public and judicial pressure on the government to create real changes in the way things are done and to stop the trajectory towards a surveillance state.

Snowden’s whistleblowing was among the most important in US history. It showed us that the relationship between the people of the United States and the government has gone off track and needs a major course correction.

The fourth amendment of the constitution provides that a court must find probable cause that an individual has committed a crime before issuing a warrant, and forbids systematic spying on the American people. The requirement of individualized suspicion should prohibit this type of dragnet surveillance. Spying on whole populations is not necessary, and is actually counterproductive.

If elected president I will immediately pardon Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning and John Kiriakou for their important work in exposing the massive, systematic violation of our constitutional rights. I would invite them to the White House to publicly acknowledge their heroism, and create a role for them in the Stein-Baraka Green party administration to help us create a modern framework that protects personal privacy while still conducting effective investigations where warranted.

The American people have a right to privacy. My hope is that Obama uses his power to pardon Snowden now. The debate he began must be continued so we find a resolution that protects the freedom of press, association, religion and speech as well as the privacy of people in the United States and around the world.
 
Russia could be behind some of it, but then they would work through 3rd parties same as we do, look at Zion's use of Wikipedia and Wikileaks? and having him imprisoned in that embassy? Perrrrrrfect. ;D
Otherwise, it could be basic infighting... such as how the Snowman leaks info on the NSA but nothing on his previous employer, the CIA? and he's not allowed to 'come in from the cold' in Russia? again... Perrrrrrfect. ;D
Who says these guys can't get a few things right?
 
Another distraction tactic by Killary's team - up on Sott:
https://www.sott.net/article/328552-Hillary-linked-SuperPac-owned-media-outlet-creates-fake-grass-roots-social-media-campaign-to-arrest-interrogate-Trump

Hillary’s Media Arm Demands Secret Service Arrest, Interrogate Trump

The liberal news outlet Share Blue, formally Blue Nation Review, owned by the head of the SuperPac Correct the Record which directly coordinates with Hillary’s campaign called for the use of official state organs against Trump in a move eerily reminiscent to third-world crackdowns on dissent.


Advisor to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign Peter Daou, the lead editor for the liberal media news outlet ShareBlue, previously known as Blue Nation Review, launched a rallying cry on Twitter on Friday for Donald Trump to be interrogated and arrested by the United States Secret Service after the bombastic billionaire made a poorly worded but seemingly innocent comment regarding Clinton’s position on the second amendment raising the specter of use of official state violence against political dissidents.

Ali Van Zee @alikat747 16 Sep
@peterdaou We're on to something with #InterrogateTrump Getting lots of support here :)

Traci Morrison @TraciMorrison3
@alikat747 @ShareblueMedia @peterdaou Maybe we can use those torture tactics he seems to be so fond of to....#InterrogateTrump !
8:07 PM - 16 Sep 2016
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The outlet formerly known as Blue Nation Review was purchased by Media Matters mogul David Brock, a close ally of the Clinton family, in the middle of the Democratic Primary turning the once progressive outlet that celebrated the contributions of both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton to the liberal cause into an attack mouthpiece that was frequently used to spread narratives about the Vermont Senator.

Blue Nation Review’s name became synonymous with attacks against Bernie Sanders leading the outlet to rebrand at the beginning of September to ShareBlue, an outlet with an identical media staff that continues to spread campaign narratives with a lens towards electioneering while holding itself out as a news outlet in order to circumvent campaign finance regulations.


Maurice Magarelli @mauromag1
#InterrogateTrump Damn it, arrest this lunatic. He's been warned once already. https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/776924852561256448 …
7:36 PM - 16 Sep 2016 · South Riding, VA, United States
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The outlet’s owner David Brock also spearheads the pro-Clinton SuperPAC Correct the Record, the only SuperPAC ever to directly coordinate with a candidate’s campaign which many legal analysts believe openly flouts campaign finance laws and restrictions, which is best known for paying staff to create nonexistent pro-Hillary Twitter accounts and bots to create the false appearance of a vibrant social media support for the former Secretary of State.

The hashtag that was circulated on Friday by Daou was #InterrogateTrump traced to a publication by ShareBlue signed "by the editors" despite the political operative saying on Twitter that it was he who started the call for Trump to be both interrogated and arrested. Many of those who responded to the hashtag were incited to call for the Republican candidate to be tortured and water boarded.

Peter Daou @peterdaou
I'm launching #InterrogateTrump for his direct incitement of violence against #HillaryClinton.
7:10 PM - 16 Sep 2016
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The call to action, which was quickly circulated by a suspicious number of bot accounts, quickly rose to the top of the Twitter trend list at a time when the social media outlet was buzzing about McClatchy News revelations that Hillary Clinton’s right-hand man Sidney Blumenthal originated the "birther" claims that Barack Obama was not born in the United States with the news outlet even dispatching reporters to Kenya in the heart of the 2008 campaign cycle.

The call to arrest and interrogate Trump came in response to statements he made criticizing Hillary’s aversion to the guns and the Second Amendment suggesting that if Clinton believed that guns were unnecessary for protection then why does she surround herself with armed Secret Service officers?

W. Munsen @Minuteman04
#InterrogateTrump using any technique he has said is ok to use. Start with waterboarding
8:53 PM - 16 Sep 2016
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Once Daou was able to get the hashtag trending, presumably with the help of his boss David Brock at the Correct the Record SuperPAC, the Clinton camp and mainstream media outlets seized on Trump’s comments saying that he threatened and was alluding to the assassination of Hillary.

"I think her bodyguards should drop all weapons. I think they should disarm – what do you think? Take their guns away, she doesn’t want guns and let’s see what happens to her," said Trump. ​This quote taken purely as text disregards the candidate’s playful grin and laughter of the audience which did not seem anywhere near incited to violence, but even taken solely as text it is unfathomable that the Secret Service would actually disarm making it unclear where the purported threat to Clinton is.

Then again, facts haven’t mattered much in this election.


_https://sputniknews.com/us/20160917/1045417567/trump-guns-hillary-secret-service.html
 
The United States has finalized a $38 billion package of military aid for Israel over the next 10 years, the largest of its kind ever.

Re the $38 billion in military aid to Israel, I have to think the timing was calculated - ensures US Jewish voters keep voting Democratic, i.e. elect Killary President - as well as the Christian Zionists who support Israel no matter how many Palestinians they slaughter or oppress to the point of death. Maybe Trump won't be so generous to Israel although he appears to be in their camp - kinda essential for any US political office aspiration.
 
To love Hillary we must learn to love psychopaths women, no men only is more or less what this article say. I found it astonishing, the writer must know what he was doing or it's just a lot of ingenuity?

Whether you realize it or not, you’ve spent your entire life being trained to empathize with white men. From Odysseus to Walter White, Hamlet to Bruce Wayne, James Bond to the vast majority of biopic protagonists, our art consistently makes the argument that imperfect, even outright villainous, men have an innate core of humanity. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
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Jonathan Chait made perhaps the most radical statement of this election season when he referred to Hillary Clinton as “a normal politician with normal political failings.” It feels groundbreaking to discuss Clinton in such benign terms because that’s simply not how she’s understood. She’s at best “the lesser of two evils” and at worst a scheming Lady Macbeth hungry for power.

And in a roundabout way that ties back to Clinton as well. Like any human being she is flawed and like any high-ranking politician, her flaws exist on a scale that requires an insane level of cognitive dissonance to comprehend (the same cognitive dissonance that allows us to “love” Obama even as we realize his drone warfare program is responsible for the deaths of potentially thousands of innocent people). And for the record, I have no problem with people critiquing Clinton’s flaws. Criticism is a crucial part of the political process and there’s plenty in Clinton’s record worth critiquing—from the racist dogwhistling language she used to support the 1994 Crime Bill to her hawkish foreign policy style. But what does bother me is when the criticism aimed at Clinton seems so much more severe than the kind aimed at her male counterparts.

http://boingboing.net/2016/09/15/to-find-hillary-clinton-likabl.html
 
josev said:
To love Hillary we must learn to love psychopaths women, no men only is more or less what this article say. I found it astonishing, the writer must know what he was doing or it's just a lot of ingenuity?

Whether you realize it or not, you’ve spent your entire life being trained to empathize with white men. From Odysseus to Walter White, Hamlet to Bruce Wayne, James Bond to the vast majority of biopic protagonists, our art consistently makes the argument that imperfect, even outright villainous, men have an innate core of humanity. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
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Jonathan Chait made perhaps the most radical statement of this election season when he referred to Hillary Clinton as “a normal politician with normal political failings.” It feels groundbreaking to discuss Clinton in such benign terms because that’s simply not how she’s understood. She’s at best “the lesser of two evils” and at worst a scheming Lady Macbeth hungry for power.

And in a roundabout way that ties back to Clinton as well. Like any human being she is flawed and like any high-ranking politician, her flaws exist on a scale that requires an insane level of cognitive dissonance to comprehend (the same cognitive dissonance that allows us to “love” Obama even as we realize his drone warfare program is responsible for the deaths of potentially thousands of innocent people). And for the record, I have no problem with people critiquing Clinton’s flaws. Criticism is a crucial part of the political process and there’s plenty in Clinton’s record worth critiquing—from the racist dogwhistling language she used to support the 1994 Crime Bill to her hawkish foreign policy style. But what does bother me is when the criticism aimed at Clinton seems so much more severe than the kind aimed at her male counterparts.

http://boingboing.net/2016/09/15/to-find-hillary-clinton-likabl.html

josev,

While Hillary may be a broken machine that deserves as much sympathy as the next psychopath, I think she most likely will do great damage if elected. Of course that can be said for Donald Trump as well. I haven't noticed anyone here being misogynistic in their comments. I see hate and criticism directed at both Hilary and Trump in what seems to be fairly equal proportion to me.

I have heard people say "Well all politicians lie, that's normal." . We have been programmed to just accept lying as normal behavior but if we continue to approve of this I think we will pay a very high price. FWIW :(
 

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