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luc said:LOL no-man's-land, did you install the Drumpfinator? Because your post is surely drumpfinated :D I de-installed it actually because I couldn't reply in this thread without Drumpfinating my post. It's hilarious though to read drumpfinated articles!
Actually not. It's because the sound of the word "Drumpf" really reflects his personality better than anything else, so I just use it manually^^.
luc said:On a more serious note, yes, the parallels with Hitler are really interesting - not so much because they have the same "spellbinding style" (they are different), but because indeed, people laugh at Trump, and he really is comical in his inconsistencies and nonsense. And so was Hitler :( There is this article from the Washington Post that speaks some truth I think:
_https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/moment-of-truth-we-must-stop-trump/2016/02/21/0172e788-d8a7-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html
The moment of truth: We must stop Trump
Like any number of us raised in the late 20th century, I have spent my life perplexed about exactly how Hitler could have come to power in Germany. Watching Donald Trump’s rise, I now understand. Leave aside whether a direct comparison of Trump to Hitler is accurate. That is not my point. My point rather is about how a demagogic opportunist can exploit a divided country.
To understand the rise of Hitler and the spread of Nazism, I have generally relied on the German-Jewish émigré philosopher Hannah Arendt and her arguments about the banality of evil. Somehow people can understand themselves as “just doing their job,” yet act as cogs in the wheel of a murderous machine. Arendt also offered a second answer in a small but powerful book called “Men in Dark Times.” In this book, she described all those who thought that Hitler’s rise was a terrible thing but chose “internal exile,” or staying invisible and out of the way as their strategy for coping with the situation. They knew evil was evil, but they too facilitated it, by departing from the battlefield out of a sense of hopelessness.
One can see both of these phenomena unfolding now. The first shows itself, for instance, when journalists cover every crude and cruel thing that comes out of Trump’s mouth and thereby help acculturate all of us to what we are hearing. Are they not just doing their jobs, they will ask, in covering the Republican front-runner? Have we not already been acculturated by 30 years of popular culture to offensive and inciting comments? Yes, both of these things are true. But that doesn’t mean journalists ought to be Trump’s megaphone. Perhaps we should just shut the lights out on offensiveness; turn off the mic when someone tries to shout down others; reestablish standards for what counts as a worthwhile contribution to the public debate. [Comment: Like Russia is doing in the Nanny case?] That will seem counter to journalistic norms, yes, but why not let Trump pay for his own ads when he wants to broadcast foul and incendiary ideas? He’ll still have plenty of access to freedom of expression. It is time to draw a bright line.
One spots the second experience in any number of water-cooler conversations or dinner-party dialogues. “Yes, yes, it is terrible. Can you believe it? Have you seen anything like it? Has America come to this?” “Agreed, agreed.” But when someone asks what is to be done, silence falls. Very many of us, too many of us, are starting to contemplate accepting internal exile. Or we joke about moving to Canada more seriously than usually.
But over the course of the past few months, I’ve learned something else that goes beyond Arendt’s ideas about the banality of evil and feelings of impotence in the face of danger.
Trump is rising by taking advantage of a divided country. The truth is that the vast majority of voting Americans think that Trump is unacceptable as a presidential candidate, but we are split by strong partisan ideologies and cannot coordinate a solution to stop him. Similarly, a significant part of voting Republicans think that Trump is unacceptable, but they too, thus far, have been unable to coordinate a solution. Trump is exploiting the fact that we cannot unite across our ideological divides.
The only way to stop him, then, is to achieve just that kind of coordination across party lines and across divisions within parties. We have reached that moment of truth.
The rest of the article promotes voting for Killary and so on, so I spare you that, but the parallels between Germany at the time of Hitler's rise and the US are very interesting, I think.
Well considering what the documentary of this guy revealed that was posted by Approaching Infinity here, one doesn't need that much fantasy to figure out what he's going to do if he really become president.
I guess, that would be the moment for every men with two firing neurons to leave the country before it's too late. Going into internal exile would not safe you. Sad to see that the ground is fertile and so well prepared. If Germany was just a test run and this one should become the real deal, then wow, fasten your seatbelts.