Libel and Defamation Against SOTT, Cass, LKJ, QFG, etc

[Leon1]

aye, a great down to earth testimonial.

 

[Gertrudes]

Anybody who has NOT read Betsy's "Truthimonial" should check it out for some real fun!
http://cassiopaea-cult.com/betsys-truthtimonial

I read it this morning. It's great!

I had just finished reading it when I opened the forum and this is the first post I read :D
Funny enough, I was thinking: people should read this, it's so straightforward and to the point, you can't not get it.

 

[Slow Motion Mary]

I thought much the same when I read Weidner's and Bridge's "rants." Betsy's language is interesting; I'd never heard anyone referred to as a mealy mouth butt biscuit!

 

[anart]

I thought much the same when I read Weidner's and Bridge's "rants." Betsy's language is interesting; I'd never heard anyone referred to as a mealy mouth butt biscuit!

I apologize, Mary, but I don't quite understand what you're saying. When you say, "I thought the same when I read [...] rants" what do you mean? What did you 'think the same'?

 

[istina]

Anybody who has NOT read Betsy's "Truthimonial" should check it out for some real fun!
http://cassiopaea-cult.com/betsys-truthtimonial

Guardian you are really the best (Bestsy)
Even though I did not understand every word, I was giggling all the time!
Thank you !!!

 

[pete02]

Anybody who has NOT read Betsy's "Truthimonial" should check it out for some real fun!
http://cassiopaea-cult.com/betsys-truthtimonial

Wow! That really does say it all doesn't it? Great testimonial Betsy!

 

[Cosmos]

I just wanted to add that I read some Testemonials and it's really a good thing.
give them truth

the more you read the more you see how crazy the charges are.

 

[Keit]

Anybody who has NOT read Betsy's "Truthimonial" should check it out for some real fun!
http://cassiopaea-cult.com/betsys-truthtimonial

I read it this morning. It's great!

It was really enjoyable and funny!

 

[Eva]

I want to thank you for your replies, I feel I'm being really understood here, even when I'm in doubts which is very refreshing.
I tried to look into my reaction and understand it with the help of your replies. I must say, that if it weren't for your encouraging words about sharing truthfully, I would have reproached myself for bringing to light conflicting thoughts.

I think part of my doubts has to do with chain reactions that have been going on in my life lately. I understand it's become difficult for me to maintain proper perspective without identifying one situation with another and trying to make sense of them all at once. That made me think in absolutes which is not at all effective. In fact it's very confusing.

Laura, the testimonial you linked is an eye-opener. By reading it the same thought keeps coming back to me. Proper perspective.. it's ironic how I identify selectively without even realising it, then of course I end up being horribly confused.
Also, I don't have children. But at times I had this feeling that the C's act towards you and you towards the world through a parental, protective filter. I may wrong of course.

I understand the fear of becoming the predator....ironically it stops us from becoming something better. Someone who genuinely cares and is capable of putting that love of humanity into action, for the betterment of all. We refer to this type of thinking as 'the predators mind', in that it is the part of us that actually acts like the predator, that keeps us trapped and small and afraid to be anything else.
Just like a wife beater tells her 'she is nothing' without him, it tells us 'we are nothing' without it...or worse 'we will become it if we gain strength'.....'see, you are just like me' it would say. And we curl back into that small ball inside ourself.

I hadn't thought of it that way before. I thought our predator's mind was a predator toward others and could only affect us when we indulged in acting in a predatory way. From what you say I'm understanding that being drawn to passivity is the predator's mind acting on ourselves. For a moment this gave me goosebumps!

To use an analogy from nature, heard animals (for example wilderbeast) would sound an alarm call if a predator is spotted in order to alert the heard to danger. Without that, members of the heard can be picked off and eating with ease.
What we are doing is learning how to make that alarm call again.....because it seems somewhere along the way to sound that alarm was considered socially evil. To warn others was to be as bad (or worse!) than those praying on us.
How messed up is that?!

That's putting things into perspective for me. Thank you.
And indeed there's a whole lot I would love to share but I'm afraid if I start typing I will write a whole book of mostly nonsense so I don't even start.


Alana, thank you for replying. I grew up in an environment of constant disputes where I was obliged to always take a stand for one side or the other. I guess my be-nice program stems from understanding at a very early age that real harm can be done even with the best intentions. Then again, this 'realisation' may be another program on its own.
I'm checking your post on the translators group and replying this afternoon.

Also, there is a difference between pity and empathy. It seems to me that you don't have to lose your empathy for the real humans while you are being careful not to fall for psychopaths' pity ploys.

I see your point. I suppose the only way to differentiate is to be alert and judge each situation separately and within its own limits.

A war that isn't acknowledged (whatever shape that war might take in one's life), is likely to repress perceptions (because we do perceive the war, we just choose to ignore it in favour of a temporary illusory state of gaining peace and being good), and the war will carry on, only worse for the side that's being attacked because it doesn't defend itself.

Choosing to fight the attack won't make it worse, at least not necessarily. It might make it more obvious, clearer, and in some cases not so covert. Choosing to fight the war that's been set against us won't necessarily turn us into a predator either, but can instead help us claim our right to be ourselves back, our right not to be stepped upon over and over.

It's ironic but while I was contemplating that maybe what I stand for is simply peace yesterday, I received an email advertising a 'peace ambassador training' seminar. I had to clear up my thoughts and emotions to understand why it came up at this moment but in the process I bumped into some very unnerving things about the institute of noetic sciences which was mentioned in that email.
Right now I'm thinking that maybe the only real base one can create is to shed the need for having a base.

 

[Slow Motion Mary]

I thought much the same when I read Weidner's and Bridge's "rants." Betsy's language is interesting; I'd never heard anyone referred to as a mealy mouth butt biscuit!

I apologize, Mary, but I don't quite understand what you're saying. When you say, "I thought the same when I read [...] rants" what do you mean? What did you 'think the same'?

I thought the same: That the accusations against Laura were utterly ridiculous! I may have been reading Laura's work just since 2007, but I have no doubt as to the sincerity and validity of her work.

 

[anart]

I thought much the same when I read Weidner's and Bridge's "rants." Betsy's language is interesting; I'd never heard anyone referred to as a mealy mouth butt biscuit!

I apologize, Mary, but I don't quite understand what you're saying. When you say, "I thought the same when I read [...] rants" what do you mean? What did you 'think the same'?

I thought the same: That the accusations against Laura were utterly ridiculous! I may have been reading Laura's work just since 2007, but I have no doubt as to the sincerity and validity of her work.

Ahhh - that makes sense, thanks.

 

[SolarMother]

Anybody who has NOT read Betsy's "Truthimonial" should check it out for some real fun!
http://cassiopaea-cult.com/betsys-truthtimonial

Wow! That really does say it all doesn't it? Great testimonial Betsy!

WOW! Laughing out loud is really good for you! Good times on the forum
Thank you Betsy

 

[Gertrudes]

I hadn't thought of it that way before. I thought our predator's mind was a predator toward others and could only affect us when we indulged in acting in a predatory way. From what you say I'm understanding that being drawn to passivity is the predator's mind acting on ourselves. For a moment this gave me goosebumps!

Very much so, the predator mind can be seen as all of those programs that we have created, that were initially mechanisms to protect us during childhood hurts and trauma, and later become ingrained in us for having to be constantly used. They can take many shapes, including the "turning the other cheek". I think that one can safely say that all of one's thoughts and reactions that hinder the growth of the real self, with all that that entails, is the predator mind speaking. The predator hurts others through us, by hurting us first. By disconnecting us from the real self, the self from which others could only benefit. There is a good thread on the predator's mind here

I grew up in an environment of constant disputes where I was obliged to always take a stand for one side or the other. I guess my be-nice program stems from understanding at a very early age that real harm can be done even with the best intentions.

That sounds very difficult. In case you had to take a stand between your carers, (I'm assuming here as I don't know your situation) you were under much stress, and I agree with you when you suggest that here might rest the origin of a be-nice program.

Good to hear that you aren't reproaching yourself for exposing your conflicting thoughts :) Bringing them to light can not only help you, the one with the conflict, but also others who might be experiencing something similar.

Personally, it has helped me put things into perspective, and I thank you for that.

 

[Palinurus]

Hi All,

It took me a few days to cover the remainder of this thread after my last post here (reply 255, page 18) as I was not aware of its continuation.

I would like to follow up on the remarks about a more positive description of our work here, to counter the dreaded cult-meme. What about the simple and correct notion of Cassiopaea research community to cover all of SotT and the Forum activities? It seems perfectly in line with the famous Bud-quote: "This is not a typical chat or debate forum. It is a research forum and the members voluntarily engage in specific activities, in specific ways for specific purposes." which Guardian (Betsy Ashby) uses as her 'punchline'.

By the way, Guardians testimonial works on me as a veritable 'showpiece' - if I ever saw one... FWIW.

 

[Seamus]

Anybody who has NOT read Betsy's "Truthimonial" should check it out for some real fun!
http://cassiopaea-cult.com/betsys-truthtimonial

Great testimonial Guardian. If there were more women like you and Laura in the world this would be a much different place!