"Life Without Bread"

RedFox said:
Laura said:
That emphasizes what we were talking about earlier today here in the house - and which actually comes up quite a bit - HOW to get more fat in ratio to meat. Geeze, the cows have been bred to have less fat... I've asked the butcher to use the fattiest pieces when he makes my ground meat, but it is still not fatty enough. Fat gets trimmed all the time and I've had to put a stop to that. We feel best, it seems, when we eat fatty pork or lamb.

But clearly, I've got to do even more to get the higher fat content into everybody.

Seems I discovered this by accident before starting the low carb diet, for me goose fat seems to be the best. Lard and tallow don't seem to do it (but they are from a supermarket, so not sure if that's the problem?). I know you can't tolerate coconut oil, so fwiw I have (when out of coconut oil) tried snacking on a little goose fat. I was worried that without cooking it, it may have a bacteria load.....but nothing bad happened. It actually tastes quite good (especially if cooled in the fridge) osit.
I should mention that if I was really flagging, I'd take some extra l-carnatine and vitimin c with the coconut oil.

I've been mixing frozen blueberries with coconut oil too as my one sweet thing, and get the feeling that as long as the fat doesn't have a too overpowering flavour any good animal fat will do.
I've been cooking all my ground beef with a lot of ghee and goose fat over the last month or so now. Made some caseroals/stews with 800g of chopped beef a few sticks of celeray and two carrots, browned in a pan with 100g of ghee and 50g of goose fat. I then put it all in a covered dish in a medium over for an hour or two with lots of salt an pepper, another 100-200g of ghee, and 50g of goose fat and lard and tallow. Topped off with a small amount of water. That lasted me several days....seems the higher the fat content the less I need to eat in one meal (the less I can physically eat! I tried over eating once and felt rather ill). Lots of smaller meals of high fat seems to be the way to go. It was probably still only 50/50 fat to weight of meat....but getting the proportions up takes some adjusting. This level seems pretty good so far.

One thing I'm still taking every day is milk thistle, as without it my liver seems to struggle with processing all this fat. I don't think I will stop taking that for some months yet.

If the butcher is trimming the fat, what does he do with all the fat he trims from all the customers? Do they sell leg bones too? I find myself (although having never eaten it) craving bone marrow right now.
I know that the brain contains the most fat of any organ.....but I'm no where near brave enough to try eating something like that yet :/
Having said that though....I heard as a kid people use to make fish head soup. I'm pretty sure you'd be able to find pig/sheep head in France quite easily too.

That usually goes to the second class products. Like salami, mortadelas, sausages, pates and similar. But it is unusable like that because of all other poisons that go in those products too.
 
RedFox said:
If the butcher is trimming the fat, what does he do with all the fat he trims from all the customers?

I once asked at a grocery store here in Finland and they said that when they cut up the meat, I can ask for the trimmed fat. They did not have any that day that I asked though. I have not been back yet to ask as I got some from a farmer who butchered a pig and I made a lot of lard from that.
 
The following is the Epilogue from Taubes' book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" which makes a few remarks about the amounts of fat that might be needed as well as a good summation of the situation. He is somewhat generous toward the lying/lunatic researchers; I wouldn't be. It seems clear to me that almost the whole of science has been taken over by psychopaths and health research is one of the main areas they have sought to dominate because they are able to create so much suffering thereby.

Emphases, mine.

EPILOGUE

The community of science thus provides for the social validation of scientific work. In this respect, it amplifies that famous opening line of Aristotle's Metaphysics: "All men by nature desire to know." Perhaps, but men of science by culture desire to know that what they know is really so. ROBERT MERTON, Behavior Patterns of Scientists, 1968

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself—and you are the easiest person to fool. RICHARD FEYNMAN, in his Commencement Address at Caltech, 1974

ON FEBRUARY 7, 2003, THE EDITORS OF Science published a special issue dedicated to the critical concerns of obesity research. It included four essays written by prominent authorities, all communicating the message of the toxic-environment hypothesis of the obesity epidemic and the belief that obesity is caused by "consuming more food energy than is expended in activity." The one article that offered a potential solution to the national and global problem of burgeoning waistlines—other than the promise of future obesity-fighting drugs—was written by James Hill of the University of Colorado, John Peters of Procter & Gamble, and two colleagues. Hill and Peters introduced the concept of an "energy gap" that could purportedly explain the existence of the obesity epidemic and illuminate a path of action by which it might be halted or reversed. By their calculation, the obesity epidemic represented an energy gap of a hundred calories per person among the American public per day that had been consumed but not expended. To undo the epidemic, Hill and Peters suggested, Americans would have to make either comparable increases in daily energy expenditure—walking one extra mile, perhaps—or decreases in energy consumption, such as "eating 15% less (about three bites) of a typical premium fast-food hamburger." Two years later, when the U.S. Department of Agriculture released the sixth edition of its Dietary Guidelines for Americans, it offered similar advice based on the identical logic: "For most adults a reduction of 50 to 100 calories per day may prevent gradual weight gain."

This proposition should evoke a distinct sensation of deja vu, because it is the precise argument that Carl von Noorden made over a century ago. Hill, Peters, and the USDA authorities, like von Noorden, were treating the regulation of body weight as though it were a purely arithmetical process, in which a small excess of calories consumed, day in and day out, accumulates into pounds of flesh and then tens of pounds, and a small deficit, day in and day out, does the opposite. That this argument is now the cornerstone of the official U.S. government recommendations for obesity prevention made the single caveat in Hill and Peters's Science article all that much more remarkable. Speaking of the hundred-calorie energy gap, they said that their "estimate is theoretical and involves several assumptions"—in particular, "Whether increasing energy expenditure or reducing energy intake by 100 kcal/day would prevent weight gain remains to be empirically tested."

The more important point, though, which Hill and Peters did not discuss, was why a century of research had not produced such an empirical test. Two immediate possibilities suggest themselves: Either the accumulated research and observations on weight regulation in humans or animals had never provided sufficient reason to believe that such a proposition should be true, which is a necessary condition for anyone to expend the effort to test it; or, perhaps, nobody cared to test it. In either case, we have to wonder whether the individuals involved in the pursuit of the cure and prevention of human obesity, as Robert Merton would have put it, have the desire to know that what they know is really so.

In the 1890s, Francis Benedict and Wilbur Atwater, pioneers of the science of nutrition in the United States, spent a year in the laboratory testing the assumption that the law of energy conservation applied to humans as well as animals. They did so not because they doubted that it did, but precisely because it seemed so obvious. "No one would question" it, they wrote. "The quantitative demonstration is, however, desirable, and an attested method for such demonstration is of fundamental importance for the study of the general laws of metabolism of both matter and energy."

This is how functioning science works. Outstanding questions are identified or hypotheses proposed; experimental tests are than established either to answer the questions or to refute the hypotheses, regardless of how obviously true they might appear to be. If assertions are made without the empirical evidence to defend them, they are vigorously rebuked. In science, as Merton noted, progress is made only by first establishing whether one's predecessors have erred or "have stopped before tracking down the implications of their results or have passed over in their work what is there to be seen by the fresh eye of another." Each new claim to knowledge, therefore, has to be picked apart and appraised. Its shortcomings have to be established unequivocally before we can know what questions remain to be asked, and so what answers to seek—what we know is really so and what we don't. "This unending exchange of critical judgment," Merton wrote, "of praise and punishment, is developed in science to a degree that makes the monitoring of children's behavior by their parents seem little more than child's play."

The institutionalized vigilance, "this unending exchange of critical judgment," is nowhere to be found in the study of nutrition, chronic disease, and obesity, and it hasn't been for decades. For this reason, it is difficult to use the term "scientist" to describe those individuals who work in these disciplines, and, indeed, I have actively avoided doing so in this book. It's simply debatable, at best, whether what these individuals have practiced for the past fifty years, and whether the culture they have created, as a result, can reasonably be described as science, as most working scientists or philosophers of science would typically characterize it.

Individuals in these disciplines think of themselves as scientists; they use the terminology of science in their work, and they certainly borrow the authority of science to communicate their beliefs to the general public, but "the results of their enterprise," as Thomas Kuhn, author of The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, might have put it, "do not add up to science as we know it."

Though the reasons for this situation are understandable, they offer scant grounds for optimism. Individuals who pursue research in this confluence of nutrition, obesity, and chronic disease are typically motivated by the desire to conserve our health and prevent disease. This is an admirable goal, and it undeniably requires reliable knowledge to achieve, but it cannot be accomplished by allowing the goal to compromise the means, and this is what has happened. Practical considerations of what is too loosely defined as the "public health" have consistently been allowed to take precedence over the dispassionate, critical evaluation of evidence and the rigorous and meticulous experimentation that are required to establish reliable knowledge. The urge to simplify a complex scientific situation so that physicians can apply it and their patients and the public embrace it has taken precedence over the scientific obligation of presenting the evidence with relentless honesty. The result is an enormous enterprise dedicated in theory to determining the relationship between diet, obesity, and disease, while dedicated in practice to convincing everyone involved, and the lay public, most of all, that the answers are already known and always have been—an enterprise, in other words, that purports to be a science and yet functions like a religion.

The essence of the conflict between science and nutrition is time. Once we decide that science is a better guide to a healthy diet than whatever our parents might have taught us (or our grandparents might have taught our parents), then the sooner we get reliable guidance the better off we are. The existence of uncertainty and competing hypotheses, however, does not change the fact that we all have to eat and we have to feed our children. So what do we do?

There are two common responses to this question, as there will be to the arguments made in this book. One response is to take into account the uncertainties about the health effects of fats and carbohydrates and then suggest that we simply eat in moderation. This in turn implies eating a balanced diet in moderation. "Perhaps our most sensible public health recommendation should be moderation in all things, and moderation in that," as the University of Michigan professor of public health Marshall Becker suggested back in 1987. But some of us do eat with admirable restraint of the four major food groups and yet are obese or overweight anyway, and presumably have an increased risk of other chronic diseases because of it; some of us are suitably lean, eat balanced diets in moderation, and exercise regularly and yet are insulin- resistant and maybe even diabetic.

The more optimistic response is a compromise position: to take virtually every reasonable hypothesis from the past fifty years that can coexist with the saturated-fat/cholesterol hypothesis of heart disease and fold them all into one seemingly reasonable diet that might do us good and probably won't do harm. Thus, the current conception of a healthy diet is one that minimizes salt content and maximizes fiber; has plenty of good fats (monounsaturated and omega-three polyunsaturated fats) and minimal bad fats (saturated fats and trans fats); has plenty of olive oil and fish, and little red meat, butter, lard, and dairy products. When meat is consumed, it's lean, which keeps saturated-fat content down and reduces energy density and thus, supposedly, calories. Dairy is low-fat or no-fat. The diet has plenty of nuts and legumes and good carbohydrates, which are those with copious vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and fiber (vegetables, fruits, and unrefined grains), but few bad carbohydrates, which are energy-dense and thus contribute to obesity (highly refined carbohydrates and sugars).

It may be true that such a diet is uniquely healthy—but we have no idea if that's really so. The diet has the advantage of being politically correct; it can be recommended without fear of ostracism from the medical community.

Whether it is healthier, however, than, say, a meat diet of 70-80 percent fat calories and absent carbohydrates almost entirely, as Stefansson suggested in the 1920s, or any diet of animal products (meat, fish, fowl, eggs, and cheese) and green vegetables but absent entirely starches, sugar, and flour or even sugar alone, is still anybody's guess. And whether such a diet would prevent us from fattening or reverse obesity, or do it better than a mostly meat diet, has also never been tested. If it doesn't, then it's probably not the healthiest diet, because excessive fat accumulation is certainly associated with increased risk of chronic disease.

I have spent much of the last fifteen years reporting and writing about issues of public health, nutrition, and diet. I have spent five years on the research for and writing of this book alone. To a great extent, the conclusions I've reached are as much a product of the age we live in as they are my own skeptical inquiry. Just ten years ago, the research for this book would have taken the better part of a lifetime. It was only with the development of the Internet, of search engines and the comprehensive databases of the Library of Medicine, the Institute for Scientific Information, research libraries, and secondhand-book stores worldwide now accessible online that I was able, with reasonable facility, to locate and procure virtually any written source, whether published a century ago or last week, and to track down and contact clinical investigators and public-health officials, even those long retired.

Throughout this research, I tried to follow the facts wherever they led. In writing the book, I have tried to let the science and the evidence speak for themselves. When I began my research, I had no idea that I would come to believe that obesity is not caused by eating too much, or that exercise is not a means of prevention. Nor did I believe that diseases such as cancer and Alzheimer's could possibly be caused by the consumption of refined carbohydrates and sugars. I had no idea that I would find the quality of the research on nutrition, obesity, and chronic disease to be so inadequate; that so much of the conventional wisdom would be founded on so little substantial evidence; and that, once it was, the researchers and the public-health authorities who funded the research would no longer see any reason to challenge this conventional wisdom and so to test its validity.

As I emerge from this research, though, certain conclusions seem inescapable to me, based on the existing knowledge:

1. Dietary fat, whether saturated or not, is not a cause of obesity, heart disease, or any other chronic disease of civilization.

2. The problem is the carbohydrates in the diet, their effect on insulin secretion, and thus the hormonal regulation of homeostasis—the entire harmonic ensemble of the human body. The more easily digestible and refined the carbohydrates, the greater the effect on our health, weight, and well-being.

3. Sugars—sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup specifically—are particularly harmful, probably because the combination of fructose and glucose simultaneously elevates insulin levels while overloading the liver with carbohydrates.

4. Through their direct effect on insulin and blood sugar, refined carbohydrates, starches, and sugars are the dietary cause of coronary heart disease and diabetes. They are the most likely dietary causes of cancer, Alzheimer's disease, and the other chronic diseases of civilization.

5. Obesity is a disorder of excess fat accumulation, not overeating, and not sedentary behavior.

6. Consuming excess calories does not cause us to grow fatter, any more than it causes a child to grow taller. Expending more energy than we consume does not lead to long-term weight loss; it leads to hunger.

7. Fattening and obesity are caused by an imbalance—a disequilibrium—in the hormonal regulation of adipose tissue and fat metabolism. Fat synthesis and storage exceed the mobilization of fat from the adipose tissue and its subsequent oxidation. We become leaner when the hormonal regulation of the fat tissue reverses this balance.

8. Insulin is the primary regulator of fat storage. When insulin levels are elevated—either chronically or after a meal—we accumulate fat in our fat tissue. When insulin levels fall, we release fat from our fat tissue and use it for fuel.

9. By stimulating insulin secretion, carbohydrates make us fat and ultimately cause obesity. The fewer carbohydrates we consume, the leaner we will be.

10. By driving fat accumulation, carbohydrates also increase hunger and decrease the amount of energy we expend in metabolism and physical activity.


In considering these conclusions, one must address the obvious question: can a diet mostly or entirely lacking in carbohydrates possibly be a healthy pattern of eating?

For the past half century, our conceptions of the interaction between diet and chronic disease have inevitably focused on the fat content. Any deviation from some ideal low-fat or low-saturated-fat diet has been considered dangerous until long-term, randomized control trials might demonstrate otherwise. Because a diet restricted in carbohydrates is by definition relatively fat-rich, it has therefore been presumed to be unhealthy until proved otherwise. This is why the American Diabetes Association even recommends against the use of carbohydrate-restricted diets for the management of Type 2 diabetes. How do we know they're safe for long-term consumption?

The argument in their defense is the same one that Peter Cleave made forty years ago, when he proposed what he called the saccharine- disease hypothesis. Evolution should be our best guide for what constitutes a healthy diet. It takes time for a population or a species to adapt to any new factor in its environment; the longer we've been eating a particular food as a species, and the closer that food is to its natural state, the less harm it is likely to do. This is an underlying assumption of all public-health recommendations about the nature of a healthy diet. It's what the British epidemiologist Geoffrey Rose meant when he wrote his seminal 1985 essay, "Sick Individuals and Sick Populations," and described the acceptable measures of prevention that could be recommended to the public as those that remove "unnatural factors" and restore "'biological normality—that is...the conditions to which presumably we are genetically adapted." "Such normalizing measures," Rose said, "may be presumed to be safe, and therefore we should be prepared to advocate them on the basis of a reasonable presumption of benefit."

The fat content of the diets to which we presumably evolved, however, will always remain questionable. If nothing else, whatever constituted the typical Paleolithic hunter-gatherer diet, the type and quantity of fat consumed assuredly changed with season, latitude, and the coming and going of ice ages.

This is the problem with recommending that we consume oils in any quantity. Did we evolve to eat olive oil, for example, or linseed oil?

And maybe a few thousand years is sufficient time to adapt to a new food but a few hundred is not. If so, then olive oil could conceivably be harmless or even beneficial when consumed in comparatively large quantities by the descendants of Mediterranean populations, who have been consuming it for millennia, but not to Scandinavians or Asians, for whom such an oil is new to the diet. This makes the science even more complicated than it already is, but these are serious considerations that should be taken into account when discussing a healthy diet.

There is no such ambiguity, however, on the subject of carbohydrates. The most dramatic alterations in human diets in the past two million years, unequivocally, are (1) the transition from carbohydrate-poor to carbohydrate-rich diets that came with the invention of agriculture—the addition of grains and easily digestible starches to the diets of hunter-gatherers; (2) the increasing refinement of those carbohydrates over the past few hundred years; and (3) the dramatic increases in fructose consumption that came as the per-capita consumption of sugars—sucrose and now high-fructose corn syrup—increased from less than ten or twenty pounds a year in the mid-eighteenth century to the nearly 150 pounds it is today. Why would a diet that excludes these foods specifically be expected to do anything other than return us to "biological normality"?

It is not the case, despite public-health recommendations to the contrary, that carbohydrates are required in a healthy human diet. Most nutritionists still insist that a diet requires 120 to 130 grams of carbohydrates, because this is the amount of glucose that the brain and central nervous system will metabolize when the diet is carbohydrate-rich. But what the brain uses and what it requires are two different things. Without carbohydrates in the diet, as we discussed earlier (see Chapter 19), the brain and central nervous system will run on ketone bodies, converted from dietary fat and from the fatty acids released by the adipose tissue; on glycerol, also released from the fat tissue with the breakdown of triglycerides into free fatty acids; and on glucose, converted from the protein in the diet. Since a carbohydrate-restricted diet, unrestricted in calories, will, by definition, include considerable fat and protein, there will be no shortage of fuel for the brain. Indeed, this is likely to be the fuel mixture that our brains evolved to use, and our brains seem to run more efficiently on this fuel mixture than they do on glucose alone. (A good discussion of the rationale for a minimal amount of carbohydrates in the diet can be found in the 2002 Institute of Medicine [IOM] report, Dietary Reference Intakes. The IOM sets an "estimated average requirement" of a hundred grams of carbohydrates a day for adults, so that the brain can run exclusively on glucose, "without having to rely on a partial replacement of glucose by [ketone bodies]." It then sets the "recommended dietary allowance" at 130 grams to allow margin for error. But the IOM report also acknowledges that the brain will be fine without these carbohydrates, because it runs perfectly well on ketone bodies, glycerol, and the protein-derived glucose.)

Whether a carbohydrate-restricted diet is deficient in essential vitamins and minerals is another issue.

As we also discussed (see Chapter 19), animal products contain all the amino acids, minerals, and vitamins essential for health, with the only point of controversy being vitamin C. And the evidence suggests that the vitamin C content of meat products is more than sufficient for health, as long as the diet is indeed carbohydrate-restricted, with none of the refined and easily digestible carbohydrates and sugars that would raise blood sugar and insulin levels and so increase our need to obtain vitamin C from the diet.

Moreover, though it may indeed be uniquely beneficial to live on meat and only meat, as Vilhjalmur Stefannson argued in the 1920s, carbohydrate-restricted diets, as they have been prescribed ever since, do not restrict leafy green vegetables (what nutritionists in the first half of the twentieth century called 5 percent vegetables) but only starchy vegetables (e.g., potatoes), refined grains and sugars, and thus only those foods that are virtually without any essential nutrients unless they're added back in the processing and so fortified, as is the case with white bread. A calorie-restricted diet that cuts all calories by a third, as John Yudkin noted, will also cut essential nutrients by a third. A diet that prohibits sugar, flour, potatoes, and beer, but allows eating to satiety meat, cheese, eggs, and green vegetables will still include the essential nutrients, whether or not it leads to a decrease in calories consumed.

My hope is that this book will change our views of the nature of a healthy diet, as the research for it changed my own; that future discussions of the nature of a healthy diet will begin with the quantity and quality of the carbohydrates contained, rather than the fat. As a challenge to the conventional wisdom on diet, obesity, and chronic disease, however, it presents a dilemma to public-health authorities; to nutritionists and physicians who believe that the advice they have been giving for the past few decades has been correct and based in sound science; and to all of us who simply want to eat healthy but have trouble accepting that everything we have come to believe could be as misguided as I have portrayed it. The resolution to this dilemma is to test the carbohydrate hypothesis rigorously, just as the fat-cholesterol hypothesis of heart disease should have been tested forty years ago.

In the past decade, the National Institutes of Health finally began funding randomized-control trials of carbohydrate-restricted diets, as has the Dr. Robert C. Atkins Foundation, but these trials have been designed to test only the hypothesis that such diets can be used safely and effectively as a means to lose weight. The subjects are overweight and obese, and the studies compare weight loss and heart-disease risk factors with the results of low-fat or calorie-restricted diets. These trials are neither planned nor interpreted as tests of the hypothesis that it is the carbohydrates in the diet—"the sugar and starchy elements of food," as The Lancet phrased it 140 years ago—that cause fattening and obesity to begin with. Rather, the underlying assumption here, too, is that weight loss is caused inevitably by negative caloric balance— consuming fewer calories then we expend—and the investigators perceive these trials as testing whether carbohydrate restriction allows us to do so with more or less facility than semi-starvation diets that reduce calories directly or reduce fat calories specifically.

A direct test of the carbohydrate hypothesis asks the opposite question: not whether the absence of refined and easily digestible carbohydrates and sugars causes weight loss and is safe, but whether the presence of these carbohydrates causes weight gain and chronic disease. Such a trial would ideally be done with lean, healthy individuals, or with a spectrum of subjects from lean through obese, including those with metabolic syndrome and Type 2 diabetes. They would be randomized into two groups, one of which would consume the sugary and starchy elements of food and one of which would not, and then we would see what happens. We might randomly assign a few thousand individuals to eat the typical American diet of today—including its 140-50 pounds of sugar and high-fructose corn syrup a year, nearly 200 pounds of flour and grain, 130-plus pounds of potatoes, and 27 pounds of corn—and we could assign an equal number to eat a diet of mostly animal products (meat, fish, fowl, eggs, cheese) and leafy green vegetables. Since the latter diet would be relatively high in fat and saturated fat and calorically dense, the conventional wisdom is that it would cause heart disease and, perhaps, obesity and diabetes. So this would test the dietary-fat/cholesterol hypothesis of heart disease, as well as the carbohydrate hypothesis.

Such a trial would not be ideal, because many dietary variables would differ between the two groups—calories and fats among them. The subjects would also know what diet they're consuming, and so the study would not be done blindly (although, ideally, the physicians who treated the subjects and the investigators themselves would be unaware). Nonetheless, it would be a good starting point. Would those eating the carbohydrate-rich diet be more likely to become glucose-intolerant, hyperinsulinemic, and insulin-resistant? Would they be fatter and have a greater incidence of obesity, metabolic syndrome, and Type 2 diabetes? Would they have more heart disease and cancer? Would they die prematurely or live longer? These are the questions we need to answer.

Another question that needs to be addressed urgently regards the health effects of sugar and high-fructose corn syrup alone. Since the 1980s, as we discussed (see Chapter 12), sugar and high-fructose corn syrup have been exonerated as causes of chronic disease on the basis that the evidence was ambiguous. Since then, virtually no studies have been funded; there have been no attempts to clarify the picture. Today I can imagine no research more important to the public health than rigorous, controlled trials of the long-term health effects of sugar and high-fructose corn syrup.


For the past decade, the National Institutes of Health has been funding trials that test whether "lifestyle modification" will prevent diabetes and metabolic syndrome. But these trials are done only in the context of the conventional wisdom on diet, obesity, and disease. In the largest of these trials to date, the $150 million Diabetes Prevention Program, the lifestyle modification included 150 minutes of exercise each week and a low-fat, low-calorie diet. The results confirmed that such a program of diet and exercise will indeed prevent or delay the appearance of diabetes and metabolic syndrome, but they said nothing about what aspect of this lifestyle modification was responsible. Was it the reduction in fat calories or total calories? Was it the exercise? Or was it a change in the type of carbohydrates consumed or a reduction in the total amount of carbohydrates? As we discussed (see Chapter 19), even if the goal of a diet is to reduce calories by preferentially reducing fat, it will inevitably cut back on carbohydrates as well, and usually sugars in particular.*138

The NIH is currently spending $200 million on a decade-long trial called Look AHEAD to test the hypothesis that if obese diabetics lose weight they'll be healthier for the effort. This is "the largest, most expensive trial ever funded by NIH for obesity outcome research," says the Baylor University psychologist John Foreyt, who is one of the trial's principal investigators. But once again, the trial tests only the conventional wisdom. The goal of Look AHEAD is to induce five thousand obese diabetics to lose weight by the same lifestyle modification used in the Diabetes Prevention Program: cutting calories and fat calories, and exercising. If these obese diabetics do lose weight, and if they do end up healthier for it, we still won't know whether it was the calories, the fat calories, the exercise, some combination of all three, or maybe just the carbohydrates or the sugar that made the difference. And we won't know whether, if they restricted carbohydrates alone and ate protein and fat to their hearts' content, they would have been healthier still.

Because these trials are planned as a test of only one hypothesis—and a poorly defined hypothesis at that—the research ensures that we won't have the kind of reliable answers that we so desperately need. If the Diabetes Prevention Program had included a test of the carbohydrate hypothesis, the investigators could have compared the effect of a low-fat, low-calorie diet and exercise to the effect of carbohydrate restriction alone, and that would have told us whether it's the carbohydrates or the calories and the sedentary behavior that cause these chronic diseases. If Look AHEAD were to include a test of the carbohydrate hypothesis, we might at least know the answer in another decade. It doesn't, and we won't.

The scientific obligation, as I said in the prologue, is to establish the cause of obesity, diabetes, and the chronic diseases of civilization beyond reasonable doubt. By doing so, we can take the necessary steps to prevent these disorders, rather than trying to cure them or ameliorate them after the fact. If there are competing hypotheses, it does us little good to test one alone. It does little good to continue basing public-health recommendations and dietary advice on association studies (the Framingham Heart Study and the Nurses Health Study are prominent examples) that are incapable of reliably establishing cause and effect. What's needed now are randomized trials that test the carbohydrate hypothesis as well as the conventional wisdom. Such trials would be expensive. Like the Diabetes Prevention Program and Look AHEAD, they'll cost tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. And even if such trials are funded, it might be another decade or two before we have reliable answers. But it's hard to imagine that this controversy will go away if we don't do them, that we won't be arguing about the detrimental role of fats and carbohydrates in the diet twenty years from now. The public will certainly not be served by attempts of interest groups and industry to make this controversy go away. If the tide of obesity and diabetes continues to rise around the world, it's hard to imagine that the cost of such trials, even a dozen or a hundred of them, won't ultimately be trivial compared with the societal cost.


And here is the Afterword to the 2008 edition of the book:

AFTERWORD TO THE ANCHOR EDITION

I had to write Good Calories, Bad Calories to truly understand the intricacies of the subject matter. I had to see it published before I realized what I should have written in the first place, or at least what points could have used more emphasis. Both writing and publication, in other words, are inevitable parts of the learning process; they're not end points or anything close.

One common response to the book, for instance, by book reviewers and by medical authorities, is that the explanation for such a dire public health problem as the ever-rising incidence of obesity and diabetes could not be simple. A simple answer, after all, implies that it should have been known all along; it implies that somewhere along the way our public health authorities had led us astray. A complex answer allows considerable leeway in the assignment of responsibility; it also allows for an indefinite postponement of any action or acknowledgment of error.


But the arguments for a simple explanation are themselves simple and perhaps I should have spelled them out more clearly. The first is Occam's razor. As Isaac Newton phrased it, "We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances." If a simple explanation can explain the observations, do not complicate it. This is a requisite for all scientific endeavors; obesity and weight regulation are no exceptions.

Until the 197os and the beginning of the obesity epidemic, carbohydrates were widely, if not universally, considered fattening. The dietary cause of obesity, as Brillat Savarin suggested in 1825, appeared to be "the floury and feculent [i.e., starchy] substances which man makes the prime ingredients of his daily nourishment" and this "fecula produces its effects sooner and more surely in conjunction with sugar." By the 1960s, biochemists and physiologists had elucidated the hormonal and enzymatic regulation of fat tissue, and this research implied that carbohydrate-rich foods should be fattening because these are the foods that drive insulin secretion and insulin drives fat accumulation.

By then, however, our health authorities were already suggesting, based on the slimmest of evidence, that the hormonal regulation of fat tissue was irrelevant to a disorder of excess fat accumulation, and that the conventional wisdom of the prior century and a half was simply wrong. By the 1970s, they were officially recommending that we make carbohydrate-rich foods the staple of our diets.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture in its Dietary Guidelines for Americans and food guide pyramid, the National Institutes of Health, the Surgeon General, the American Medical Association, the American Heart Association, and even the American Diabetes Association took to promoting starches and bread as the staples of heart-healthy reducing diets.

Influential food and health writers like Jane Brody of the New York Times told us to "live the high-carbohydrate way," the subtitle of Brody's 1985 bestselling Good Food Book, and here we are, three decades later, fatter than ever before in history.

Simultaneously, much of the sugar in our diet was replaced by a sweetener—high fructose corn syrup—that was effectively identical to sugar in its chemical makeup, which also promoted fat accumulation and insulin resistance, but could be perceived and marketed as a healthy alternative. Our consumption of what the USDA calls caloric sweeteners increased by 20 percent, an increase that had no precedence since the early years of the twentieth century. And, here we are, fatter than ever.

How complex does the answer have to be to explain why we get fat, and why we've waxed so much fatter since the mid- to late-197os?

This book challenges viewpoints that are held as firmly as any religious belief, while arguing what seem to be quite obvious and fundamental points. These points are so self-evident that it seems odd that they need to be made so explicit to the nutritional establishment.

The first is that obesity is a disorder of excess fat accumulation and so every discussion of its cause and prevention should begin with a discussion of the hormonal regulation of fat tissue.


Physicians and medical authorities would never discuss abnormalities of human growth—gigantism, for instance, or dwarfism—without focusing attention on the role of the hormones, growth hormone, in particular, that regulate growth. How can these medical experts discuss the excessive accumulation of fat (or its opposite, anorexia, a deficit in fat accumulation) without focusing attention on the role of those hormones—now insulin, in particular—that regulate fat accumulation?

The question that begs to be asked to every researcher, every public health authority, every nutritionist and food writer, every physician and exercise physiologist, every self-appointed expert, who has ever commented on what they believe is the obvious cause of obesity—overeating and/or sedentary behavior—is simply this: if obesity is a disorder of excess fat accumulation, what regulates fat accumulation? As the 2001 textbook, Endocrinology: An Integrated Approach (available online and free of charge through the U.S. National Library of Medicine's PubMed digital archive, www.pubmed.com) explains, in somewhat dry, technical language, "The overall action of insulin on the adipocyte [the fat cell] is to stimulate fat storage and inhibit mobilization."

With that physiological fact as a given, any explanation for obesity or the obesity epidemic that looks beyond the influence of carbohydrates on insulin is one that is willfully trying to complicate an explanation when a simple one might suffice.

Another variation on the can't-possibly-be-so-simple argument that I have heard frequently since Good Calories, Bad Calories was first published is the molecular biology theme. Since the discovery of the hormone leptin in 1994, obesity research has become a subdiscipline of molecular biology. As a result, a search of the keyword "obesity" in the National Library of Medicine database will now identify over 100,000 relevant articles in the professional journals (nearly 20,000 review articles alone), a large proportion of which focus on the fruits of molecular biology research and the science of genomics. The suspects now implicated in weight regulation and obesity seem to increase in number weekly. They now include obesity-related gene variations known as polymorphisms, signaling molecules with names like adiponectin, neuropeptide Y, and grhelin, the receptors for those signaling molecules, the inhibitors for those molecules, inhibitors of the inhibitors, and so on. The obvious question is, how can this research be so extraordinarily fruitful, and yet mostly irrelevant to the cause of obesity? It's hard to imagine that this research is not relevant, and so, as I've frequently been told, any discussion of the cause of obesity that doesn't discuss these molecules, receptors, inhibitors, etc., must be considered amateurish and woefully inadequate. The truth must be complicated.

Again the counterargument seems itself simple and straightforward: if you're hit over the head with a hammer, it will cause both pain and inflammation. The mechanisms of pain and inflammation have also yielded up a wealth of knowledge to the efforts of the molecular biologists. These physiological phenomena are understood to be mediated via signaling pathways and molecules (in this case, prostaglandins, tumor-necrosis factors, etc.) that emerge in response to the damage done. The more researchers learn about these responses and the molecules involved, the more complex the pathway from hammer to pain and inflammation to healing will appear. But the relevant fact to all those immediately involved is that both
the pain and ensuing inflammation were caused by the hammer and perhaps the person who swung it. Everything else is downstream and may be relevant only to the question of which drugs will best deal with the pain and potentially accelerate the healing process.

If carbohydrates and insulin cause us to accumulate excess fat, then they are the hammer. Little else needs to be discussed when the subject is how best to prevent or reverse the fattening process. Certainly not until this simple hypothesis has been rigorously tested and compelling evidence generated to refute it.

A scientific point that I now believe I emphasized insufficiently is that the nutrient composition of our diets must play a fundamental role in our energy expenditure—whether we are, in fact, physically active or relatively sedentary. I made this point in the context of Alfred Pennington 's thinking about obesity, but I returned to it later only very briefly (indeed, only in a parenthetical aside), when it is without a doubt a critical observation.

What makes this particularly relevant is that public health authorities have lately taken to promoting sedentary behavior as a fundamental cause of obesity and all its associated chronic diseases. They do so primarily on the basis that lean people tend to be more physically active than those who fatten easily, and that good health and a physically active lifestyle also go hand in hand. These associations are then assumed (incorrectly, but nonetheless) to imply cause and effect. If relatively sedentary individuals tend to succumb earlier in life to heart disease, diabetes, obesity, and cancer, then it's assumed that the sedentary behavior is a cause and that physical activity is a means of prevention.

A conspicuous example of this logic appeared a month after the publication of Good Calories, Bad Calories. The American Institute for Cancer Research and the World Cancer Research Fund released a lengthy report, "Food, Nutrition, Physical Activity and the Prevention of Cancer," which concluded that overweight and obesity are the greatest risk factors for cancer. The report discussed at length the role of insulin and insulin-like growth factor, both of which "promote cancer growth," thus agreeing with what I wrote in chapter 13, but it considered elevated insulin and IGF levels to be the result of obesity, and obesity itself to be caused by excess energy consumption. (According to the AICR/WCRF report, both refined carbohydrates and fats cause obesity because they are "energy dense." "Sugary drinks," which are not energy dense because of their water content, cause obesity because they fail to satiate us. The effect of these various foods on insulin secretion and fat accumulation or the hormonal regulation of fat tissue is never discussed.)

From this logic, the AICR/WCRF report offered ten recommendations for preventing cancer, the first of which was that we should all maintain a healthy weight and the second that we should increase our physical activity. "All forms of physical activity protect against some cancers, as well as against weight gain, overweight, and obesity," the report stated, "correspondingly, sedentary ways of life are a cause of these cancers and of weight gain, overweight, and obesity."

This conclusion was counterintuitive on the face of it, implying as it does that "sedentary habits such as watching television" are carcinogenic. Regrettably, reading books or, for that fact, sitting in classrooms are also sedentary behaviors, and we would now have to consider these activities carcinogenic, as well, which could take us places as a culture we don't want to go. Nonetheless, these were the conclusions.

The counterargument is one that avoids this kind of nonsensical conclusion—reading books and watching television can cause cancer—and simplifies the hypothesis of causation even further the same dietary factors that induce obesity and its associated chronic diseases—refined and easily digestible carbohydrates and sugars—also make people relatively sedentary. Physical inactivity, obesity, and cancer, all of which associate together, are all caused by the same thing—the effect of carbohydrate-rich foods and sugars on insulin.

This alternative causality, as Pennington originally observed, is a direct implication of the law of energy conservation. Anything that makes us accumulate mass—anything that increases the amount of fat we store in our adipose tissue—will cause compensatory changes in energy intake (hunger or appetite) and energy expenditure. The same goes for anything that decreases energy storage—i.e., that makes us lose fat and weight. By this logic, we don't get fat because we're sedentary; we become sedentary because we're getting fat. And we're not lean because we're physically active; rather, we're physically active because we're lean and our bodies are predisposed to burn off the calories we consume rather than stash them away in our fat tissue.

That the nutrient composition of the diet effects our energy expenditure would be the explanation, as Pennington noted, for why obese individuals might lose weight on high-calorie, carbohydrate-restricted diets of 3,000 calories or more. The point is that their total energy expenditure is inhibited on diets that are carbohydrate-rich because significant amounts of energy are being lost into their fat tissue. And so the diets they've been eating all along, the ones that made them fat, also suppress their expenditure of energy. They semistarve their lean tissue and organs, and this, in turn, leads to a reduction in energy expenditure and an impulse to remain sedentary. In the same way, semistarvation causes a compensatory suppression of energy expenditure in animals, as was described in an article in the September 2007 issue of Scientific American by Jeffrey Flier, now dean of the Harvard Medical School, and his wife and research colleague, Terry Maratos-Flier. "An animal whose food is suddenly restricted," they wrote, "tends to reduce its energy expenditure both by being less active and by slowing energy use in cells."

When we apply this same logic to obesity we get the following scenario: removing carbohydrates from the diet leads to a drop in insulin levels, which causes fatty acids to be liberated from the fat tissue and made available to be used as a fuel supply. Removing the carbohydrates, therefore, removes the internal semistarvation caused by the partitioning of calories into the fat tissue. Now the obese individual would increase his energy expenditure, as Flier and Maratos-Flier might have put it, both by being more active and by speeding up energy use in cells.

I only came to realize the importance of this implication when I began to speak about the book after publication, during interviews and in lectures. It also led me to realize that there are indeed relatively simple experiments that could establish whether it's excess calories that make us fat (the conventional wisdom) or purely the effect of carbohydrates on insulin and insulin on fat accumulation (the carbohydrate hypothesis).

Such experiments could be done with a dozen subjects in two to three months and so would be inexpensive, at least by the standards of modern medical research. One caveat is that they would require that their human subjects be treated to some extent like laboratory animals. They would be housed in a metabolic ward and fed three or more meals a day. In the ideal situation, the subjects would never leave the ward and be under constant observation—as was the case with Vilhjalmur Stefansson and his colleague Karsten Anderson in the first weeks of their 1928 meat diet experiment—so that the opportunity to cheat on their diets would be minimized. In one variation of the experiment, the subjects would be randomized into two groups. One group, the controls, would be fed a balanced diet, relatively rich in carbohydrates, constituting 3,000 or even 4,000 calories a day. The other would be fed a diet of equal caloric content, but severely carbohydrate restricted—preferably less than sixty grams of carbohydrates a day.

The carbohydrate-restricted diet would lower insulin levels significantly. According to the carbohydrate hypothesis, this would reduce fat accumulation independent of the calories consumed. The fatty acids liberated from the fat tissue would be burned as fuel and energy expenditure would increase in these subjects. The balanced diet would have no effect on insulin levels and those subjects would not be expected to lose weight or increase energy expenditure.
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The study would have to run for at least two months, long enough to establish a significant amount of fat loss if the carbohydrate hypothesis is correct. The researchers would measure energy expenditure before the experiment began and then at regular intervals throughout the experiment. (A technology known as doubly-labeled water would allow this to be done to within io percent accuracy.) Insulin levels would also be measured regularly, as would any other blood biomarkers or risk factors for heart disease that the researchers might choose (and be able to afford). Body composition, before and after the experiment, should be analyzed as well to establish the proportion of lean and fat tissue lost (if any).

Such an experiment would go a long way toward determining the validity of the two competing hypotheses: is it the quantity of calories that determines our weight and fat accumulation or the quality? I would argue, as I've been doing widely since the book came out, that such an experiment is absolutely fundamental to understanding the cause not only of obesity, but of heart disease, cancer, and diabetes, as well.

Finally, one common response to both my book and my lecture is that these hypotheses are interesting, maybe even compelling, but there's simply insufficient evidence to believe them unequivocally. As New York Times health reporter, Gina Kolata, concluded in her review, "I'm sorry, I'm not convinced." This attitude is then perceived as sufficient reason to return to the business at hand: telling the obese and overweight, and, in fact, everyone else in the population, to eat less and exercise more.

When I wrote Good Calories, Bad Calories, I did not set out to convince skeptics that the carbohydrate hypothesis was true. Such a task would be impossible to accomplish, in any case. I set out to document the evidence suggesting that the hypothesis was worthy of serious and critical attention, to follow the evidence without allowing my preconceptions to bias my interpretation. My hope then was and still is that medical researchers, public health authorities, physicians, nutritionists, and even health reporters, confronted, as they are, with unprecedented levels of obesity and diabetes in the population, will perceive Good Calories, Bad Calories not as a threat to their ideals (or their ability) and so something to be ignored or rejected out of hand, but instead as a valuable contribution to their work, one that will better guide their efforts to improve our health.

New York, February 2008

* Because even the balanced diet might represent an improvement in the quality of the carbohydrates in the subjects' diet—calories from sugar, white bread, white rice, and beer, for instance, might be replaced by calories from whole grains and green vegetables—there is always the possibility that even the control group in such a study will lose some weight, even if the amount of calories consumed has no effect.

What Taubes doesn't realize is that science - particularly health science - has been taken over by psychopaths in power for the express purpose of causing suffering.
 
Laura said:
Sorry I wasn't clear. I gave them the egg yolk custard until I began frying or poaching WHOLE, unbroken eggs for them.

You know, reading what you fed your babies reminds me exactly of what I used to listen they fed babies in my grandmother's village several generations ago. Only at the time we (us children) would listen to the stories with this horrified look on our faces and with disbelief expressions of "no way! That must have killed them!"
There was even the belief that only strong babies survived it.... Giving babies cookies was, of course, much more acceptable for us. Amazing how things have changed sooo much in only a few generations isn't it?
 
Laura said:
What Taubes doesn't realize is that science - particularly health science - has been taken over by psychopaths in power for the express purpose of causing suffering.
I am seeing that kind of pattern in a number of the books I have been reading recently. The authors can identify what is happening but not why. One author of a book about human nature, Steven Pinker (The Blank Slate) even goes into some depth describing psychopaths, but never quite connects it with other aspects of human behavior that he discusses. I have given up hoping that any of these authors might surprise me at the end by making a connection -- they don't.

I think that an understanding of human nature is important to see why pathologicals are able to manipulate others the way they do. In Taubes' book, the tendency to believe in "authority figures" clearly plays a major role in his analysis of what has happened. A book I read a year or two ago went into much detail about that aspect of human behavior (I can't remember which one it was). We are quite vulnerable to it.

I don't have much time to write right now, but the pattern of subversion of the scientific process by dogmatic "authority figures" appears again and again. One of the books I am currently reading, Sex at Dawn, shows how facts have been distorted in order to portray humans as a "monogamous" species even though it is easy to see that it is not. It is an interesting book, and it touches on the question of human diet as well. I don't know how far it will go, since I have only read a fraction of it, but the authors discuss the advent of agriculture and the disastrous effects it had on well being for those who lived through it, though it presumably proved advantageous for human culture as a whole (or at least for those who preside over it and feed off of others).

Another piece of the diet puzzle comes out in the book The End of Overeating by David Kessler. While I didn't find the book particularly helpful in terms of discovering how to solve the ("overeating") problem, it was very interesting in terms of understanding how the food industry grows its profits year over year by enticing people to eat ever more food, and for its explanation of the "three points of the compass," industry slang for "sugar, salt, and fat." These three ingredients, especially in combination, make food "good" in the addictive sense. The industry knows this and exploits it without limit. The book also reminded me of the connection between stress and eating. I have long had problems with binging on carbohydrates when I am feeling a lot of stress from my work, although it looks like that may have stopped when I replaced most of my carbs with meat and fat.

I am curious now about the role of fat in food addiction, and I wonder if it still has that effect when combined with small amounts of salt and few or no carbohydrates. I am amazed at how my food cravings diminished when I reduced carbohydrates and increased fat. I still have a bit of a carbohydrate addiction to deal with, but I haven't succumbed to it recently and I no longer go around feeling hungry, and my weight appears to be dropping slowly. I still love fat, though, and without restriction I am wondering where that could lead.
 
I am currently financially handicapped. Also possibly mentally handicapped,.. :cry: at least as far as the dieting aspect of this forum/project is concerned. Any simple or friendly 4 or 5 step advice to at least the basics. From what I am reading the concensus seems to be

Meat = :D

and

Carbs = :mad:

Now (sorry for my current ignorance) I don't quite understand how fruits are bad for me. My body seems to respond well to them. Also I have a slight nut allergy (can eat them, but a medium amount really doesn't settle well at all) so I'm not sure where to turn. Also I thought Berries were somewhat good (Blueberries and Blackberries) for digestion and anti-radiation (or maybe that was ginger..) lol. How can someone on a really tight budget fill up outside of meat? What is 'safe' and cheap?


On another note, I have also been seeing/feeling things; people, grays (there outlines), animals, or just beings... Sometimes it is out of the corner of my eye and then others it is almost like an audience of 2 or 3. Like an energy outline that is also filled in and thick, kinda... it is hard to describe. But its like.. I have the option to tune in (haven't done it yet, or at least not all the way, and some strange feelings(headaches accompany them) occur in the same general time frame (10 min before or after) Sometimes I get like a vortex/spiraling feeling in my head, the front part. (This is only recently, last few weeks.) Not necessarily in a bad way either. It's like I can feel/see a spinning and sucking feeling.. Other times it is just like a pressure headache. I was a little on edge about it at first, but I seem to be okay in general.


Sorry if I seemed to ramble a bit with that last paragraph. I don't really have other people I can talk to about this, at least not in an intellectual sense, without having to brush it off as something that it's not, or just change the conversation.

Thanks
The_Seeker
 
The_Seeker said:
...
Meat = :D

and

Carbs = :mad:
It's more like Fat & Protein (together) = :D
Carbs = :mad:

Now (sorry for my current ignorance) I don't quite understand how fruits are bad for me. My body seems to respond well to them. Also I have a slight nut allergy (can eat them, but a medium amount really doesn't settle well at all) so I'm not sure where to turn. Also I thought Berries were somewhat good (Blueberries and Blackberries) for digestion and anti-radiation (or maybe that was ginger..) lol. How can someone on a really tight budget fill up outside of meat? What is 'safe' and cheap?

We're all different, but there seem to be some patterns of similarity among some of the people attracted to this website. I still eat some fruit, but not much and not later in the day. But then I never did eat much fruit until I grew older and started to worry because other people told me bad things were going to happen if I didn't eat lots of fruit and fiber. Sure enough, after doing that for long enough bad things did start to happen. But maybe you were born to eat fruit; I don't know.

One thing I have given up is cheap food. I don't believe there is such a thing, unless you grow it yourself organically and don't count your labor. "Cheap meat" in particular is likely to prove very expensive in the long run, if you can see that far ahead. If you read enough about how it is produced, you may find that you can hardly put it in your mouth.

On another note, I have also been seeing/feeling things; people, grays (there outlines), animals, or just beings... Sometimes it is out of the corner of my eye and then others it is almost like an audience of 2 or 3. Like an energy outline that is also filled in and thick, kinda... it is hard to describe. But its like.. I have the option to tune in (haven't done it yet, or at least not all the way, and some strange feelings(headaches accompany them) occur in the same general time frame (10 min before or after) Sometimes I get like a vortex/spiraling feeling in my head, the front part. (This is only recently, last few weeks.) Not necessarily in a bad way either. It's like I can feel/see a spinning and sucking feeling.. Other times it is just like a pressure headache. I was a little on edge about it at first, but I seem to be okay in general.


Sorry if I seemed to ramble a bit with that last paragraph. I don't really have other people I can talk to about this, at least not in an intellectual sense, without having to brush it off as something that it's not, or just change the conversation.

Thanks
The_Seeker
I saw various sorts of things for a while, when I decided to be open to it. It wasn't going anywhere that I wanted to go, though, and I stopped. I have felt a sense of purpose all through my life, though my sense of what is up for me to do at any given time has evolved, starting out with what "authorities" told me and progressing into what I could discover through "work." If you want to spend your time "seeing things," it's available to do but I have other things to do.

As for body sensations, I don't know what to tell you. I have had lots of sensations that I can't account for, starting when I was quite small and diminishing somewhat over the decades. If there seems to be a message in a sensation I listen as best I can, but otherwise it's just unexplained sensations.
 
The_Seeker said:
I am currently financially handicapped. Also possibly mentally handicapped,.. :cry: at least as far as the dieting aspect of this forum/project is concerned. Any simple or friendly 4 or 5 step advice to at least the basics.

Assuming that you are sincerely asking, here are the basic steps from what I can gather:

* Cut out ALL grains, dairy (except butter).
* Cut out ALL processed food.
* Cut out ALL normal vegetable oils.
* Severely limit sugar and fruits.
* Eat as much meat, butter and healthy oils as you can afford and find ways to cook with them.

That basically leaves you with vegetables, meat and fat/healthy oils, and some buckwheat, quinoa. If finance is a problem, you can buy non-organic meat, especially ask for fat and the cheaper types of meat. I think eating non-organic meat is still better than not eating meat at all. Also, fat is often very cheap from most butchers.

On another note, I have also been seeing/feeling things; people, grays (there outlines), animals, or just beings...

I would focus on the diet for a while to see how everything goes. Often, such seeming high strangeness may just be products of your brain chemical imbalance.
 
I was, and thank you. :)

Just having come into all of this almost a year ago, I am only now really starting to feel a motivating/driving force that keeps me on task.
 
The_Seeker said:
Now (sorry for my current ignorance) I don't quite understand how fruits are bad for me. My body seems to respond well to them.

Hi The_Seeker, the problem with fruit is the amount of sugar they have and how that pays havoc with your insulin levels. I don't have any thread or quote at hand right now to further explain how this works more clearly, but if you do a search on the forum with the words insulin and fruit I think you'll find further information.

Bobo08 said:
That basically leaves you with vegetables, meat and fat/healthy oils, and some buckwheat, quinoa.

Following Bobo08's words I would also add amaranth which, similar to buckwheat and quinoa, is a pseudograin and doesn't contain gluten.
I'm not sure of what the take is on legumes. Because of their high carbohydrate content and the presence of lectins you should also limit them but you might not need to cut them completely. Unless, of course, you are intolerant to them.

Regarding the price of meat, besides what's already been suggested, you can get the cheap cuts of meat from the butcher that are usually from harder meat, more fatty and overall less appealing to buyers, and make a nice stew letting it cook until tender.
 
Hi The_Seeker,
If you are from the states, this link (eatwild.com) will give a list of farms where grass fed beef, foul, and lamb can be purchased. It is best to buy in bulk, in season. If you are able to buy a whole lamb, or a quarter of beef & freeze it, meat becomes very economical, as you're only purchasing a few times a year. Canning meat is also an option. My mother still cans meat a couple of times a year, its very handy for quick meals.

I purchase buckwheat flour,coconut oil, and olive oil in bulk as well. A trip to the grocery store is typically for fresh vegetables. So in the long run, not buying ANY processed food is a big savings. No milk, no cheese, no vegetable oil, no meat, no bread, no boxed cookies, no potatoe chips , no sugary drinks. All this add$ up. Not to mention what it does to health!

I think it is best to start step by step with diet changes. It does take some time and some effort, but as you start to feel better, you have more energy to put toward meal preparation and spend less time at the grocery store. :cool2:
 
nicklebleu said:
An 11 month infant should not have any problems to adapt to high-fat, as this is the NORMAL diet for the body. We adults have problems, because we have wreaked havoc with a high-carb diet for most of our life. Don't forget that breastmilk is high-fat too. Although it probably makes sense to change over gradually ...

Hope that helps!

Just as an aside ... I need to correct myself:

Mother's mild is not exactly high-fat. It consists of about 2% protein, 4% fat and around 8% carbs, which gives you a ratio of 1:2:3. In modern parlance this is still relatively low-carb, high-fat, but to call mother's milk HIGH-FAT is probably a bit misleading.

I still think that after the first few months of life the digestive system of infants are developed enough to handle higher amounts of fat. I would start to increase the fat content around the time of moving away from breastfeeding and would do it in a gradual fashion.

Hope this clarification doesn't create any confusion!
 
Laura said:
Sorry I wasn't clear. I gave them the egg yolk custard until I began frying or poaching WHOLE, unbroken eggs for them.

Egg yolk custard: 1 egg yolk, 2 tablespoons pure cream, pinch of salt. Put in heat proof small glass custard dish. Set dish in pan of shallow gently boiling water. Stir egg yolk and cream until thickens. Cool and feed to baby.

Yes, I know about the egg yolk supposedly needing to be unbroken, I'm just telling you what I fed my babies and I suspect that cooking it with cream this way may very well preserve it from the oxidation.

Another thing to feed babies would be meat pureed in the blender with some pan drippings added.

Thank you, Laura, for your recipes! I understand that this is your personal experience and I'm grateful to you for sharing it. I wonna try to make the egg yolk custard, but cannot find pure cream here. Only whipping cream is available. Can it be used instead of pure cream? I don't know what the difference is. Probably, something else is added to make the cream whipping easier? To say the truth, I was trying to avoid giving milk products (as well, as cereals, "bad" oils, etc.) to my baby, but, thinking better, small quantities of cream can still be OK, especially due to the precious animal fat value in it.

I'd like to ask here for another advice: I'm planning a long air travel (24 hrs) with the baby and now thinking what kind of food I should take to feed her en route. I still breastfeed her, but normally in the evening/night only. I can't take our regular home-made pureed meat & veggies/buckwheat because they will go bad soon afterwards. Besides the fruits, the only alternative (since she doesn’t like ready-to-feed food) seems to be an istant baby cereal, because it can be stored for longtime and hot potable water can always be found at any airport and on board. But I'm not very happy with this option. Did anybody go through such an experience and can give me a piece of advice?
 
Chacara said:
Thank you, Laura, for your recipes! I understand that this is your personal experience and I'm grateful to you for sharing it. I wonna try to make the egg yolk custard, but cannot find pure cream here. Only whipping cream is available. Can it be used instead of pure cream? I don't know what the difference is. Probably, something else is added to make the cream whipping easier? To say the truth, I was trying to avoid giving milk products (as well, as cereals, "bad" oils, etc.) to my baby, but, thinking better, small quantities of cream can still be OK, especially due to the precious animal fat value in it.

Whipping cream is probably close to pure cream. It will do in a pinch, but if you have to use a milk type product, goats milk would be better.

Chacara said:
I'd like to ask here for another advice: I'm planning a long air travel (24 hrs) with the baby and now thinking what kind of food I should take to feed her en route. I still breastfeed her, but normally in the evening/night only. I can't take our regular home-made pureed meat & veggies/buckwheat because they will go bad soon afterwards. Besides the fruits, the only alternative (since she doesn’t like ready-to-feed food) seems to be an istant baby cereal, because it can be stored for longtime and hot potable water can always be found at any airport and on board. But I'm not very happy with this option. Did anybody go through such an experience and can give me a piece of advice?

In that situation, I would get organic baby food in a jar - pureed meat, preferably or green beans or squash. I would definitely avoid the fruits and cereals.
 

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