"Life Without Bread"

Laura said:
Bottom line is: if you are feeling hungry, you aren't eating enough, especially not enough fats!!!!

Indeed....if I'm hungry I up the fats, and if that doesn't work I'll add more protein and then more fats too.

Mac said:
Maybe this is the ticket. This evening I had an organic chicken breast, fried in coconut oil, and dipped each bite in melted butter.

Just be aware that coconut oil is also a nut, so you may or may not be sensitive.
I pretty much went for all animal products (ghee, lard, butter, tallow etc) when it came to fats. Nuts, eggs and butter seemed to cause me problems (although I can't say for sure if it was one or all of them), both with inflammation (fogginess/fatigue), hunger (either feeling over hungry or no appetite), craving nuts and loosing weight.
 
LQB said:
Not to wander too far :offtopic: , I found a good source for organic free range pork (Berkshire). from their website:

About our Certified Organic & Free-Range Berkshire Hogs

Our Berkshire hogs are aloud to free roam all our pastures, fields and woodlands, this insures a wide variety of grazing choices and a fresh location to root and walk. The fields contain a variety of different feeds such as turnips, radishes, peas, alfalfa, grass, and small grain. All land and feeds are 100% certified organic with ICS (International Certification Services). Our hogs are never confined to a building and may enter shelters as they wish.

The hogs farrow freely with their own private hut, and are never removed from the rest of the herd, and enjoy taking a dip as there is always a wallow supplied for them to cool off on hot summer days.

100% USDA Certified Organic
Berkshire Hogs
100% FREE-RANGED, only confined to our 1800 acre organic ranch
These hogs rut and run!
Free-Ranged on turnips, radishes, alfalfa, grass, native prarie, forbs, herbs, and other feeds.
Fed 100% organic grains, mostly produced on our own ranch.
All the sows have names and love a good scratching.
Never given any vaccines. (ask us about how organic animals are typically still vaccinated.)
No GMO (Geneticly Modified Organisms) Feeds
Raised on pure fresh artisan water from a 1300 ft deep free flowing well!

Their website is: http://whitethunderorganics.com. I found them in the latest Weston Price Journal. The way they handle orders is unique. They take care of the shipping costs and use one of their (expensive) coolers. When you get the order, you drop a check in the cooler and send it back (pre-paid). We just ordered a bunch, so I'll have to report back on the quality - but I have little doubt it will be great. They also have pastured chicken and beef. Large orders could be shared with family/friends or other members nearby.

When talking with the owner, I asked about the pork chops. She said that they leave a lot of fat on and the chops also contain part of the tenderloin!

Quick update: Our order arrived yesterday in heavy coolers with post-paid return labels. Cooked up a few packages of fresh side pork. The thick slices are about twice the thickness of the store-bought version. This pork just melts in your mouth - extremely good. Talking with one of the owners, she said that after eating the fresh side, she will never go back to bacon. For myself I would have to agree with that. We're looking forward to trying the chops and ribs. And very reasonable price - we got 3 coolers delivered for $403 (no tax, no shipping). If you can order some volume, this looks like the way to go.
 
Interesting article in the latest Weston Price Journal: http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/how-does-pork-prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood. I'll just post the Intro an conclusions here, but the article link shows pretty dramatic pics of blood cell clumping. Apparently the effect is pork-specific

How Does Pork Prepared in Various Ways Affect the Blood?

Written by Beverly Rubik, PhD
October 3 2011
An Investigation via Live Blood Analysis

Traditional preparation of pork involved salt-curing followed by smoking to preserve it, or marinating fresh pork in an acidic medium, usually vinegar, prior to cooking. Yet today some people simply cook fresh pork without giving any particular attention to traditional methods of preparation. How does consumption of these various preparations of pork affect the blood?

In this report, we examine three adults who normally eat a traditional Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF) diet who participated in a pilot study to ascertain the effects of eating pork on the blood. These volunteers came to the laboratory once a week to consume pork prepared in various ways and to have their blood examined before and after eating it. Microphotographs of their blood show unexpected results. ....

CONCLUSIONS

1. Consuming unmarinated cooked pastured pork produces blood coagulation and clotting in blood examined at five hours after eating; however, consuming marinated cooked pork does not produce any blood coagulation or clotting.

2. Consuming processed forms of pastured uncured pork, including bacon and prosciutto, does not produce any blood coagulation or other visible changes in the blood at five hours after eating.

3. Consuming unmarinated cooked pastured lamb does not produce any blood coagulation or other visible changes in the blood at five hours after eating.

4. No changes in white blood cell activity, white blood cell clumping, crystals, microbes, or spicules (indicating liver stress), were found before or after consumption of all five preparations of pork and lamb.

The results suggest that unmarinated cooked pastured pork may be unique in producing these coagulation effects on the blood, which also appeared quite rapidly, in less than ten minutes after blood draw, and did not clear up during an hour of observing the blood under the microscope.

The early blood coagulation and clotting observed after consuming cooked unmarinated pork are adverse changes in the blood. A shorter blood coagulation time is associated with increased systemic biochemical inflammation as well as the possible formation of blood clots in the body, as in heart attack or stroke. This condition in the blood, if chronic, is associated with increased risk of chronic degenerative disease, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, autoimmune disorders and others.2

What is it about unmarinated cooked pork that may produce biochemical inflammation and early blood clotting? A literature search revealed use of pork in the Materia Medica of ancient China. In Chinese medicine, “pork has the medical properties of being bitter, somewhat cooling, and slightly poisonous, and was used for chronic madness.”3 Yet pork is the most common meat consumed in China, indeed throughout Asia. Usually it is marinated in vinegar before it is cooked; pickled pork is also a common dish throughout Asia.

It is well known that allergies cause unwanted inflammation. Is this a possible link? In modern medicine, meat allergies are rare in adults, typically outgrown during the first few years of life.4 Those who are allergic to pork are typically sensitive to pork serum albumin.

There is also an interesting link that has been found between sensitivity to pork meat and cats, as these two allergies are frequency associated, suggesting a crossed allergenicity.5 That is, those with allergy to pork frequently have respiratory allergies to cats. However, in this study, the subjects were allergic neither to pork nor cats. In searching the modern scientific and medical literature for clues, nothing was uncovered that might explain the results of this study.

What is most notable, however, is that the results demonstrate the wisdom of traditional food preparation. The processing of pork in customary ways by salts and acidic marinades makes pork safe for consumption— not only by inactivating parasites, killing off noxious bacteria that may cause food poisoning, and promoting safe fermentations in the meat that add flavor; traditional processing of pork also seems to prevent the inflammatory and blood clotting effects as observed here through live blood analysis, although we do not know why. We speculate that raw pork contains a toxin, unidentified to date, and that heat alone from cooking cannot destroy it, but that fermentation with salt, and also acid plus heat, do so. This toxin in pork, if it exists, is therefore heat-stable and requires further denaturation by salt or acid in order to detoxify it. This is exactly what traditional pork preparation provides.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT

This study was supported in part by a small grant from the Weston A. Price Foundation.

REFERENCES

1. Rodriguez-Canul, R.; Argaez-Rodrigues, F, et al. (2002) Taenia solium Metacestode Viability in Infected Pork after Preparation with Salt Pickling or cooking methods common in Yucatan, Mexico. Journal of Food Protection 65(4):666-669.

2. Rubik B (2009) Pilot Research Study: Live Blood Analysis of Adults Comparing the Weston A. Price Foundation Diet and the Conventional Modern Diet. Wise Traditions in Food, Farming, and the Healing Arts Vol 10(4): 35-43.

3. Lo, V; Barrett, P. (2005). Cooking Up Fine Remedies: On the Culinary Aesthetic in a 16th Century Chinese Materia Medica. Medical History 49:395-422.

4. Restani, P; Ballabio, C; Tripodi, S; Fiocchi A. (2009) Meat Allergy. Current Opinion in Allergy and Clinical Immunology 9(3): 265-269.

5. Drouet, M; Boutet, S; Lauret, MG; Chene, J; Bonneau, JC; Le Sellin, J; Hassoun, S; Gay, G; Sabbah, A. (1994) The Pork-Cat Syndrome or Crossed Allergy Between Pork Meat and Cat Epithelia. Allerg Immunol 26(5):166-8.

Hard to tell but this looks to be an issue with the meat (protein) - not the fat. I would sure like to see more study on this. Might want to experiment with some vinegar-based marinates.
 
LQB said:
Interesting article in the latest Weston Price Journal: http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/how-does-pork-prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood. I'll just post the Intro an conclusions here, but the article link shows pretty dramatic pics of blood cell clumping. Apparently the effect is pork-specific

How Does Pork Prepared in Various Ways Affect the Blood?

Written by Beverly Rubik, PhD
October 3 2011
An Investigation via Live Blood Analysis

Traditional preparation of pork involved salt-curing followed by smoking to preserve it, or marinating fresh pork in an acidic medium, usually vinegar, prior to cooking. Yet today some people simply cook fresh pork without giving any particular attention to traditional methods of preparation. How does consumption of these various preparations of pork affect the blood?

In this report, we examine three adults who normally eat a traditional Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF) diet who participated in a pilot study to ascertain the effects of eating pork on the blood. These volunteers came to the laboratory once a week to consume pork prepared in various ways and to have their blood examined before and after eating it. Microphotographs of their blood show unexpected results. ....

CONCLUSIONS

1. Consuming unmarinated cooked pastured pork produces blood coagulation and clotting in blood examined at five hours after eating; however, consuming marinated cooked pork does not produce any blood coagulation or clotting.

2. Consuming processed forms of pastured uncured pork, including bacon and prosciutto, does not produce any blood coagulation or other visible changes in the blood at five hours after eating.

3. Consuming unmarinated cooked pastured lamb does not produce any blood coagulation or other visible changes in the blood at five hours after eating.

4. No changes in white blood cell activity, white blood cell clumping, crystals, microbes, or spicules (indicating liver stress), were found before or after consumption of all five preparations of pork and lamb.

The results suggest that unmarinated cooked pastured pork may be unique in producing these coagulation effects on the blood, which also appeared quite rapidly, in less than ten minutes after blood draw, and did not clear up during an hour of observing the blood under the microscope.

The early blood coagulation and clotting observed after consuming cooked unmarinated pork are adverse changes in the blood. A shorter blood coagulation time is associated with increased systemic biochemical inflammation as well as the possible formation of blood clots in the body, as in heart attack or stroke. This condition in the blood, if chronic, is associated with increased risk of chronic degenerative disease, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, autoimmune disorders and others.2

What is it about unmarinated cooked pork that may produce biochemical inflammation and early blood clotting? A literature search revealed use of pork in the Materia Medica of ancient China. In Chinese medicine, “pork has the medical properties of being bitter, somewhat cooling, and slightly poisonous, and was used for chronic madness.”3 Yet pork is the most common meat consumed in China, indeed throughout Asia. Usually it is marinated in vinegar before it is cooked; pickled pork is also a common dish throughout Asia.

It is well known that allergies cause unwanted inflammation. Is this a possible link? In modern medicine, meat allergies are rare in adults, typically outgrown during the first few years of life.4 Those who are allergic to pork are typically sensitive to pork serum albumin.

There is also an interesting link that has been found between sensitivity to pork meat and cats, as these two allergies are frequency associated, suggesting a crossed allergenicity.5 That is, those with allergy to pork frequently have respiratory allergies to cats. However, in this study, the subjects were allergic neither to pork nor cats. In searching the modern scientific and medical literature for clues, nothing was uncovered that might explain the results of this study.

What is most notable, however, is that the results demonstrate the wisdom of traditional food preparation. The processing of pork in customary ways by salts and acidic marinades makes pork safe for consumption— not only by inactivating parasites, killing off noxious bacteria that may cause food poisoning, and promoting safe fermentations in the meat that add flavor; traditional processing of pork also seems to prevent the inflammatory and blood clotting effects as observed here through live blood analysis, although we do not know why. We speculate that raw pork contains a toxin, unidentified to date, and that heat alone from cooking cannot destroy it, but that fermentation with salt, and also acid plus heat, do so. This toxin in pork, if it exists, is therefore heat-stable and requires further denaturation by salt or acid in order to detoxify it. This is exactly what traditional pork preparation provides.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT

This study was supported in part by a small grant from the Weston A. Price Foundation.

REFERENCES

1. Rodriguez-Canul, R.; Argaez-Rodrigues, F, et al. (2002) Taenia solium Metacestode Viability in Infected Pork after Preparation with Salt Pickling or cooking methods common in Yucatan, Mexico. Journal of Food Protection 65(4):666-669.

2. Rubik B (2009) Pilot Research Study: Live Blood Analysis of Adults Comparing the Weston A. Price Foundation Diet and the Conventional Modern Diet. Wise Traditions in Food, Farming, and the Healing Arts Vol 10(4): 35-43.

3. Lo, V; Barrett, P. (2005). Cooking Up Fine Remedies: On the Culinary Aesthetic in a 16th Century Chinese Materia Medica. Medical History 49:395-422.

4. Restani, P; Ballabio, C; Tripodi, S; Fiocchi A. (2009) Meat Allergy. Current Opinion in Allergy and Clinical Immunology 9(3): 265-269.

5. Drouet, M; Boutet, S; Lauret, MG; Chene, J; Bonneau, JC; Le Sellin, J; Hassoun, S; Gay, G; Sabbah, A. (1994) The Pork-Cat Syndrome or Crossed Allergy Between Pork Meat and Cat Epithelia. Allerg Immunol 26(5):166-8.

Hard to tell but this looks to be an issue with the meat (protein) - not the fat. I would sure like to see more study on this. Might want to experiment with some vinegar-based marinates.

So this would include pork burgers (ground/mince) and pork chops that should be marinated, right? I think I'd like to experiment with vinegar-based marinates and maybe include some lemon. The question is how long to marinate it before cooking to have the desired result? Would 2 to 3 hours of marinating before cooking be enough?
 
Hi,
maybe this question has been asked before, but I was wondering. I am slowly making changes in my diet. But how do other parents go about this? Do you change the diet for your kids as well? What about external consideration? Do I take into account their wishes?
All in all, my kids do not use a lot of table sugar. I have asked my partner not to bring them any sweets any longer, nor give them any (processed) cakes. As I do not make any pancakes anymore their sugar intake has decreased. Also, we have stopped buying 'chocoladehagelslag', they are like granules of chocolate which we eat on our sandwiches over here.
They have been cutting back on fruit juices, as they drank one litre of the stuff a day!

My youngest child is very happy that we eat more meat and fish and he doesn't mind the fat. He doesn't care much for sugar, but my oldest does. On top of that he doesn't like fat, but he does eat butter.

So I do not know whether I should change their diets, I would like to, because I do not want them to develop all kinds of diseases in (later) life. But do I have that right?
 
anart said:
[..]but I'm still curious about which session forge might be referring to with lengthened life spans, specifically underground.[..] It seems to me that the point the C's were making was that, by definition, incarnation in 3D on this planet is damaging to the physiology - the body, but that it's just part and parcel of this environment. Hopefully he can post the session he's thinking of - I know they mentioned lengthened life spans off-planet, but that's all I can recall at the moment.
Yes, also:
1. Session 950304, first quote of curious_richard.
2. 941126 "A: Light wave alteration. Q: (L) And light waves, actual light waves, affect DNA?"
Could be a "A: Sopophoric screen alterations of the magnetic belt overlay."-type manipulation of atmosphere made to allow through more UVA/UVB to cause (along with its immune system suppression effects) fats be damaged in our subcutis and subcutaneous adipose tissue then damage propagate deeper.
_http://www.skinbiology.com/skinhealth&aging.html

It occurred further what if sun rays altered via atmosphere changes could have been made to damage easiest the now officially advertised so mainstream consumed polyunsaturated fats. Persons consuming those in general made to be occupied with sickness and have arrested development of knowledge capacity increase/DNA change processes. This diet giving the most light resistant saturated fats seems best protection.

3. Then i thought of one solution could be (strictly theoretically) entire avoidance of sunlight by humans living in large underground cities and caves (960831 and other sessions) resulting in lengthened lifespan. With the increase of cometary dust in space we could be getting some sun-shade, or dust makes worse.
 
LQB said:
Interesting article in the latest Weston Price Journal: http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/how-does-pork-prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood. I'll just post the Intro an conclusions here, but the article link shows pretty dramatic pics of blood cell clumping. Apparently the effect is pork-specific

Very interesting LQB, thanks for pointing out that article. I will start testing with marinated pork.

SeekinTruth said:
The question is how long to marinate it before cooking to have the desired result? Would 2 to 3 hours of marinating before cooking be enough?

The original article says:

http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/how-does-pork-prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood said:
2. Apple cider vinegar-marinated (twenty-four hours while refrigerated) pastured center-cut pork chop;

So, a full day seems to be the way to go.
 
Mariama said:
So I do not know whether I should change their diets, I would like to, because I do not want them to develop all kinds of diseases in (later) life. But do I have that right?

Hi Mariama,
I don't have kids and appreciate how tricky it can be to change a child's diet against his/her apparent wishes, however, I think that there are more important things at play here, here's why: Think of it this way, when your kids where 2 years old (I don't know how old they are though) and wanted to just run into the middle of a road full of traffic, would you have let them do it because it was their wish? Surely not, because you knew that that could kill them.

I don't know how old your kids are but I'm assuming they are still young. At this stage you are responsible for them, their diets, and education. They can't, and shouldn't have the same power of decision that you have, they don't have the same awareness, therefore are not capable of making informed decisions (think of that road full of traffic). So, with that in mind, one could actually consider it to be a disservice not to gradually change their diets when you know that what they are eating is gradually making them sick, and anticipating their death. Remember that they eat what you put on their table, therefore you are responsible for the type of food they eat.

Sure, they may express a desire for sweets, carbs, junk food, whatever it is they like, (again, the same way they may have wanted to jump into the middle of a road full of traffic, turn on the gas stove, play with knives, and so on...). But bare in mind that they have also been conditioned to do so, no only due to habit, but also due to the addictive effect these foods have on one's organism. I think that you are actually at an advantage point here, while you are still responsible for what they eat, you can start making changes so that they grow accustomed to a much healthier diet. Once they are grown, then it is time for them to make their own choices.

This isn't to say that force feeding them to eat something to which they show a distaste is the way to go, but rather to gradually introduce healthy meats and fats that they can eat, whilst removing unhealthy foods.

My 2 cents
 
SeekinTruth said:
So this would include pork burgers (ground/mince) and pork chops that should be marinated, right? I think I'd like to experiment with vinegar-based marinates and maybe include some lemon. The question is how long to marinate it before cooking to have the desired result? Would 2 to 3 hours of marinating before cooking be enough?

I would say yes, on the ground pork. What I will try is making up a salad-type dressing marinate using ACV, lemon/lime juice, spices, olive oil, and a touch of maple syrup to offset the tartness. Mix that into the ground pork and let it sit overnight in the fridge. I would think that less marinate time would be required for ground pork mixture vs steaks/chops. Might be worth taking a meat mallet to the steaks/chops before marinating.
 
LQB said:
SeekinTruth said:
So this would include pork burgers (ground/mince) and pork chops that should be marinated, right? I think I'd like to experiment with vinegar-based marinates and maybe include some lemon. The question is how long to marinate it before cooking to have the desired result? Would 2 to 3 hours of marinating before cooking be enough?

I would say yes, on the ground pork. What I will try is making up a salad-type dressing marinate using ACV, lemon/lime juice, spices, olive oil, and a touch of maple syrup to offset the tartness. Mix that into the ground pork and let it sit overnight in the fridge. I would think that less marinate time would be required for ground pork mixture vs steaks/chops. Might be worth taking a meat mallet to the steaks/chops before marinating.

OK, thanks for your input, LQB. I marinated today's pork burger with a bunch of fresh squeezed lemon juice and kneaded with the usual onions, parsley, salt and pepper and let it sit for about 2 1/2 hours before frying in ghee. They seemed to be much softer and fluffier than usual. Tasted almost as if the usual flavors were even a bit more enhanced. I'll be looking for vinegar (either apple cider or grape) in glass bottles which is hard to find and I want to avoid getting it in plastic containers.

Next time for the pork chops, I'll marinate it over night in the fridge. Also, I'm going to try getting some lamb chops soon. I've been getting some really good beef liver and kidneys lately. Thanks again, and to Gertrude too for the replies.
 
Gertrudes said:
LQB said:
Interesting article in the latest Weston Price Journal: http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/how-does-pork-prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood. I'll just post the Intro an conclusions here, but the article link shows pretty dramatic pics of blood cell clumping. Apparently the effect is pork-specific

Very interesting LQB, thanks for pointing out that article. I will start testing with marinated pork.

SeekinTruth said:
The question is how long to marinate it before cooking to have the desired result? Would 2 to 3 hours of marinating before cooking be enough?

The original article says:

http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/how-does-pork-prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood said:
2. Apple cider vinegar-marinated (twenty-four hours while refrigerated) pastured center-cut pork chop;

So, a full day seems to be the way to go.
Thank you LQB for this article.

My sensitivity to pork seems to be reducing, this may help too.

Lard is OK. Ground mince (shoulder) is OK, as are cured meats - bacon and ham, belly pork registers as occasional use, the problem comes with chops. I had a gut feeling that different methods of cooking might solve the problem, this method of marinating looks promising. Possibly use it with offal too, to see if it works with them too. :)

Memory serves me better these days - the Eades in 'Protein Power', and in the chapter dealing with sensitivity to Arachidonic Acid, recommend cutting the fat off beef and grlling (reduces AA in beef by 35 per cent. Alternatively to marinade (8 fl oz red wine and 8 fl oz olive oil) in a fridge for 24hrs, flipping the bag a couple of times; drain it for an hour or so; rub the beef with some pepper and spices to your taste; grill. The wine (which is a vinegar) acts as a solvent to leech out a fair amount of the saturated fat in the steak; and roasting is second to grilling as a cooking method to get rid of the problem.
 
How Does Pork Prepared in Various Ways Affect the Blood?

Written by Beverly Rubik, PhD
October 3 2011
An Investigation via Live Blood Analysis

Several things stand out for me in this article. First of all, they analyzed only 3 people. That is a lot of conclusions for the analysis of several foods in only 3 people. Two of them are men almost in their 60s, the other is a woman of almost 40 years old.

Second, the 3 of them have been on a Weston Price diet for 45 weeks which is definitely exc in comparison to the average American. But they have dairy (raw), grains (fermented, but still). They're not on a low carb diet nor on a gluten free diet either. Actually, it seems that plant proteins are the ones related to complications due to acidity and not animal proteins. More info here: http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2011/02/does-protein-leach-calcium-from-bones.html

Then, their pork chops were a middle cut with no fat added. They were cooked in water and I have a hard time imagining that they had a fatty cut.

Then, what makes me even more suspicious is the method used, "Live Blood Analysis". My take on it is that it is subjective, not sensible nor specific. I'm open minded to a different view according to new data. I'm suspicious of blood tests and their standardization and this one in particular sounds even more suspicious.

I follow the following blog because they often speak against alternative medicine. That is, I keep a tab to see how authoritarian followers think and what are they doing against alternative medicine. In some articles, they actually make valid points, for instance against "New Agey" alternative medicine that is not scientific nor helpful. But for the most part, they are just authoritarians and obnoxious. Question is: Are the following arguments regarding Live Blood Analysis unfair?:

_http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/live-blood-analysis-the-modern-auguries/

Phase contrast and darkfield microscopes are used in medicine, in my world primarily to look for syphilis. As a rule, most pathologic changes in the blood are best seen when various stains are applied to the blood sample. Most commonly a Wright”s stain is used on blood cells, because many diagnostic features are invisible on phase contrast. There are many different stains used in the pathology laboratory to help identify what you are observing under the microscope. Using different stains on microbial specimens can help categorize organisms before they can grow. It is not either-or, both phase contrast and other modalities are used in clinical medicine. More practical clinical information is derived from light microscopy on stained specimens.

An evaluation of the cells of the blood can give hints to the presence or cause of many diseases, from vitamin deficiencies to infection to leukemia. The CBC (complete blood count) with or without a differential (the types of cells seen) is part of any initial evaluation of ill patients.

With live blood analysis, practitioners take the seed of truth that the evaluation of the blood constituents can give valuable information and grow a forrest of fantasy and magic. [...]

Live blood analysis evidently began with Gunther Enderlein at the turn of the last century. He was in the Bechamp school of disease etiology and his concepts are unintelligible in the context of modern biology and physiology. Enderlein placed blood under a darkflield microscope and interpreted the artifacts he saw as quasi-life forms, which he called protits, symbionts or endobionts, that could transform into pathogens (11). Only Live Blood analysts can see these forms. As one site says “Enderlein’s “Endobiont” only had meanings to dark field microscopists following his teaching (10).” There is large inter-operator variability in analyzing live blood and no two live blood analysts see the same pathologic changes on the same slide (7). [...]

The one study that looked at the ability for blinded live blood analyzers to make the same diagnosis demonstrated that no two viewers saw the same thing (7). The one diagnostic trial of live blood analysis demonstrated that practitioners were unable to accurately diagnose patients with known metastatic cancer (9).

I skipped the detailed examples they gave, but some of them are worth reading too. Here are the notes from the article:

[7]7) Altern Ther Health Med. 2006 Jul-Aug;12(4):36-41. Reliability of Enderlein’s darkfield analysis of live blood.

CONTEXT: In 1925, the German zoologist Günther Enderlein, PhD, published a concept of microbial life cycles. His observations of live blood using darkfield microscopy revealed structures and phenomena that had not yet been described. Although very little research has been conducted to explain the phenomena Dr. Enderlein observed, the diagnostic test is still used in complementary and alternative medicine.

OBJECTIVE: To test the interobserver reliability and test-retest reliability of 2 experienced darkfield specialists who had undergone comparable training in Enderlein blood analysis.

SETTING: Inpatient clinic for internal medicine and geriatrics.

METHODS: Both observers assessed 48 capillary blood samples from 24 patients with diabetes. The observers were mutually blind and assessed their findings according to a specific item randomization list that allowed observers to specify whether Enderlein structures were visible or not.

RESULTS: The interobserver reliability for the visibility of various structures was kappa = .35 (95% CI: .27-.43), the test-retest reliability was kappa = .44 (95% CI: .36-.53).

CONCLUSIONS: This pilot study indicates that Enderlein darkfield analysis is very difficult to standardize and that the reliability of the diagnostic test is low.

PMID: 16862741



[9]9) Forsch Komplementarmed Klass Naturheilkd. 2005 Jun;12(3):148-51. Epub 2005 Jun 23. [Does dark field microscopy according to Enderlein allow for cancer diagnosis? A prospective study]

BACKGROUND: Dark field microscopy according to Enderlin claims to be able to detect forthcoming or beginning cancer at an early stage through minute abnormalities in the blood. In Germany and the USA, this method is used by an increasing number of physicians and health practitioners (non-medically qualified complementary practitioners), because this easy test seems to give important information about patients’ health status.

OBJECTIVE: Can dark field microscopy reliably detect cancer?

MATERIALS AND METHODS: In the course of a prospective study on iridology, blood samples were drawn for dark field microscopy in 110 patients. A health practitioner with several years of training in the field carried out the examination without prior information about the patients. RESULTS: Out of 12 patients with present tumor metastasis as confirmed by radiological methods (CT, MRI or ultra-sound) 3 were correctly identified. Analysis of sensitivity (0.25), specificity (0.64), positive (0.09) and negative (0.85) predictive values revealed unsatisfactory results.

CONCLUSION: Dark field microscopy does not seem to reliably detect the presence of cancer. Clinical use of the method can therefore not be recommended until future studies are conducted.

In the pork article, it says:

Live blood analysis is described in detail in a previous article by the author.2 (Rubik B (2009) Pilot Research Study: Live Blood Analysis of Adults Comparing the Weston A. Price Foundation Diet and the Conventional Modern Diet. Wise Traditions in Food, Farming, and the Healing Arts Vol 10(4): 35-43.)

Perhaps someone can review what the author of the article has to say about Live Blood Analysis to see if there is something valid or plausible.
 
Mariama said:
So I do not know whether I should change their diets, I would like to, because I do not want them to develop all kinds of diseases in (later) life. But do I have that right?

I don't think there is a simple answer, but then there are a lot of things like that. I cringe when I see kids eating the way they do because i know that my parents fed me a lot of junk (not quite as bad -- it was the 50's and really bad nutrition was just getting started) and I see all the damage now at 61. And if I look around at people I know that are around my age, I see signs of serious damage everywhere. They mostly seem to take it for granted that life is that way. The situation for kids is much worse now.

Poor nutrition leads to poor ability to think, use emotion, and function physically, which does not support free will. Children at different stages of development will need different amounts and kinds of guidance, and when you learn something new you may need to try to pass it along to them even if they are past the ideal stage for learning it.

My "solution:" Decide on a course of action, do it, observe what happens, and revise as necessary.
 
I was pretty strict about what my kids ate when they were growing up. Unfortunately, what I thought was really healthy then was pretty ignorant, though it was a lot better than the crap other people were eating. If I knew then what I know now....

Anyhow, like I said, I was strict. If it was evil, it wasn't allowed in my house, period. My ex cooperated mostly because he was trying to at least appear to be a good parent. When the marriage started falling apart, that went out the window and he was always taking the kids off to eat junk and drink colas.

But, at least they learned that eating fresh food, home cooked, was the way things ought to be - assimilated it, so to say - and they weren't too cranky about my 99% strictness because I cooked really good meals. The 1% was the rare occasion when I would order pizza delivery or take-out Chinese because of some special reason.

I saw it as my job as a parent to not only provide good food, but to set a high standard, and to set an example. I didn't drink alcohol for over 25 years except on New Years while I was raising my kids because I didn't want them to think that drinking was an everyday thing; I knew it was unhealthy.
 
Psyche said:
Perhaps someone can review what the author of the article has to say about Live Blood Analysis to see if there is something valid or plausible.

Apparently Rubick has used LBA for many years, but as far as I know, only for looking at blood cell clumping and its sources. Her latest work with WAPF has been focused on food/diet effects on this clumping. Whether or not this is a direct way of measuring something useful - I don't know. The WAPF agenda behind this is clear - they push "traditional" food prep techniques in all areas (that I can tell). I'll see if I can find more on Rubick/LBA.

I did run into another "health professional" who claimed that Rubick's past LBA has repeatability problems. He couldn't explain further although he was using his own version of LBA to demonstrate clumping to patients and selling them supplements to reduce the clumping. It may be that this clumping is an unidentified artifact off how the slides are prepared.

It is interesting - the allergy link she suggests. Might explain why some folk have problems with pork.

My sensitivity to pork seems to be reducing, this may help too.

Lard is OK. Ground mince (shoulder) is OK, as are cured meats - bacon and ham, belly pork registers as occasional use, the problem comes with chops. I had a gut feeling that different methods of cooking might solve the problem, this method of marinating looks promising. Possibly use it with offal too, to see if it works with them too. :)

Memory serves me better these days - the Eades in 'Protein Power', and in the chapter dealing with sensitivity to Arachidonic Acid, recommend cutting the fat off beef and grlling (reduces AA in beef by 35 per cent. Alternatively to marinade (8 fl oz red wine and 8 fl oz olive oil) in a fridge for 24hrs, flipping the bag a couple of times; drain it for an hour or so; rub the beef with some pepper and spices to your taste; grill. The wine (which is a vinegar) acts as a solvent to leech out a fair amount of the saturated fat in the steak; and roasting is second to grilling as a cooking method to get rid of the problem.

I think its worth a try to see if the sensitivity is reduced. It may be that enough time on a low carb diet reduces food sensitivities in most of us. In LWB it is clear from Lutz's results that many benefits accrue over years. Your experience seems to be consistent with some of Rubick's findings (or conjectures).

Some books on grass-fed beef recommend the marination you suggest for improved taste/tenderness (rather consistently). Maybe there's a better reason.
 
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