"Life Without Bread"

dugdeep said:
Last night I listened to Chris Kresser's Real Food Summit presentation and it was well worth it. The subject was fish consumption and he dropped a few mind blowing truth bombs that I think have wide repercussions for the diet. His major premise is that the benefits of eating fish far outweigh the dangers. I have been avoiding fish for the last couple of years because of the widely publicized dangers, so this talk was a real eye-opener for me.

The major revelation for me was his point that scientists have done the public at large a huge disservice by focusing only on the mercury content of fish. He says that, since fish are high in selenium, and selenium binds preferentially to mercury, and when mercury and selenium are bound they are not absorbed through the digestive tract, mercury isn't nearly the problem in fish that it's made out to be. He said there's something called the "selenium health benefit ratio" that looks at the amount of selenium in a given fish and whether it's a potential source of unbound mercury.

He claims the only time mercury is an issue is when the selenium content is less than the potential mercury content. This situation plays out in tarpon, marlin, swordfish and shark, and not much else. These are fish that aren't commonly eaten anyway. Other fish like salmon, mackeral, herring have selenium that exceeds mercury content and are therefore safe. Fish he didn't mention, but that were implied to be safe even though they have always been thought to be quite dangerous are line-caught tuna and halibut.

I'm going to look more into this selenium health benefit ratio before I go crazy on the fish, but overall I think this is really good news :)

BTW, it appears the talk is still available here - http://realfoodsummit.com/
It also appears Zoe Harcombe's talk is still available, which is also well worth listening to. It's mostly info we know, but she's really good at digging, analyzing studies and dismantling propaganda. She's a good speaker, too, so worth a listen.

EDIT: If you'd rather read than listen, it appears Chris summarized all his points in an article prior to the summit. You can find it here - http://chriskresser.com/is-eating-fish-safe-a-lot-safer-than-not-eating-fish

Like you, i don't eat fish anymore.

The thing about mercury is interesting, but unfortunately mercury is not the only contaminant.

What about the others heavy metal?
And The PCB? And, of course, radioactivity?
They are good reason to stop eating them, no?

I am saying goodbye to fish for a long time i think.
 
Interesting dugdeep, thank you. I haven't listen to his podcast but read the article.

sebbe said:
Like you, i don't eat fish anymore.

The thing about mercury is interesting, but unfortunately mercury is not the only contaminant.

What about the others heavy metal?

Well, we can be heavy metal contaminated from so many other sources. Personally, I eat fish about 3-4 times a month. I think, like Chriss Kresser says, that the benefits might outweigh the negatives in consuming fish. we recently we got wild-caught salmon from a friend who fishes off the coast of West BC, so we might eat it more now.

sebbe said:
And The PCB?

He talks about PCBs in his article that dugdeeb posted.

sebbe said:
And, of course, radioactivity?

That's everywhere :cry:

sebbe said:
They are good reason to stop eating them, no?

I am saying goodbye to fish for a long time i think.

I think that we can each make the choice of eating, or not, fish - and which types - based on the information we gather. I will personally continue to eat seafood (avoiding sharks, tuna, and swordfish and such), but bear in mind that I come from an island and I am a bit biased because of that ;)
 
dugdeep said:
Last night I listened to Chris Kresser's Real Food Summit presentation and it was well worth it. The subject was fish consumption and he dropped a few mind blowing truth bombs that I think have wide repercussions for the diet. His major premise is that the benefits of eating fish far outweigh the dangers. I have been avoiding fish for the last couple of years because of the widely publicized dangers, so this talk was a real eye-opener for me.
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EDIT: If you'd rather read than listen, it appears Chris summarized all his points in an article prior to the summit. You can find it here - http://chriskresser.com/is-eating-fish-safe-a-lot-safer-than-not-eating-fish

This is a really great find--thanks for sharing, dugdeep! I've been eating some canned herring from the gulf of Maine USA for a little while as I'm not aware of any major contamination that's occurred nearby to there. This article, however, has caused me to reconsider Tuna if I can find it sourced somewhere clean.

sebbe said:
Like you, i don't eat fish anymore.

The thing about mercury is interesting, but unfortunately mercury is not the only contaminant.

What about the others heavy metal?
And The PCB? And, of course, radioactivity?
They are good reason to stop eating them, no?

I am saying goodbye to fish for a long time i think.

Up to you, but I think the source is important to consider and there may be places where the water isn't so contaminated such that the health benefits of eating the fish outweigh the costs. Certainly, though, I'd avoid the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific.

Just my two cents.
 
I am sorry , i hadn't seen (!) the link in the bottom of your message Dugdeep.

I read it now.

The problem with this all contaminants is their interaction between all of them : it is the mercury + pcb + heavy metals + dioxins + radioactivity, even in small quantities . I forget the expression, but the result is not a simple addition, but it is a multiplication of their effects.

If i eat fish for his benefits (min. 2-3 time in a week), it is very hard to know where i am in the balance : it is beneficial or damageable ?

Perhaps now the solution is high quality filtered oil fish for epa/dha ?
 
beetlemaniac said:
...The idea of FODMAPs is interesting, but from my experience, the foods listed in the PDF file linked in the article don't really help one who is suffering from bloating and related problems. I think any type of carb in excess (depends on each person) can cause intestinal fermentation.

It is very individual -- a low FODMAP diet can only help when FODMAP sensitivity is the cause of the problem. Other things can cause bloating.

I am going to be starting a low FODMAP diet after I go to the store this weekend. In the mean time, the evidence I have is that when I increased FODMAP foods over the last couple of weeks, the gas (fermentation) problems became much worse. Now I need to test what happens when I eliminate them.

What I have actually been doing is eliminating eggs for an extended period of time, because the test I did back our Ultrasimple Diet days was not long enough. Unfortunately, some of the foods I replaced the eggs with were high in FODMAPs, which may very well explain the other symptoms that appeared. The fermentation produces gas, but the microorganisms also produce other metabolic byproducts that cause problems in sensitive individuals. And I have been having joint and muscle pains that I thought were gone for good. We'll see.
 
dugdeep said:
He says that, since fish are high in selenium, and selenium binds preferentially to mercury, and when mercury and selenium are bound they are not absorbed through the digestive tract, mercury isn't nearly the problem in fish that it's made out to be. He said there's something called the "selenium health benefit ratio" that looks at the amount of selenium in a given fish and whether it's a potential source of unbound mercury.

I have recently heard a podcast with someone whose name I can't remember, although I do know that it was a woman, and she mentioned precisely that.

After reading on several blogs as well as here how fish, and particularly seafoods are so nutrient dense, having just the right balance of fatty acids to keep one's brain healthy, I have for two months now incorporated fish in my diet. I make a point of eating fish at least once a week. Similarly to Alana I may also be biased, I'm from a country where fish is eaten in quantity, so I do love fish.

One thing that has also been on the back of my mind since having gone paleo, was the book "The Enzyme Factor" by Dr. Hiromi Shinya. Dr. Shinya was the pioneer of colonoscopic surgery, having developed the technique and even helped design the instrument used.

I wasn't able to find yet the particular passage I am looking for, but from what I remember one of the things that most surprised him when moving from Japan to the US in the 60s, was the difference in people's intestines. He said that the US population being mainly meat eater, when compared to a Japanese population who ate a great deal of fish, had their intestines in much poorer health. Americans showed inflammation and overall more hardened intestinal walls.
Many factors, apart from meat versus fish may be responsible for this, and he probably does go through this in greater detail. This is what I can remember out of the top of my head. I'll see if I can find more on this when I have time.

I did, however, when shuffling through the book just now, find an intersting passage comparing fish versus meat fat.

The Enzyme Factor by Shinya said:
The fat of an animal whose body temperature is higher than human body temperature should be considered bad, and the fat of an animal whose body temperature is lower than human body temperature can be considered good.

The body temperature of a cow, pig or bird is normally 101.3-104F, higher than human body temperature (98.6F). A chicken's body temperature is even higher at 106.7F. The fat of these animals is in its most stable state at that particular animal's body temperature. Thus, when the fat enters lower-temperature environment of the human body, it becomes sticky and hardens. This sticky fat thickens the blood. The flow of thickened blood is sluggish, and inside the blood vessels it becomes stagnant and clogs.

On the other hand, because fish are cold-blooded animals, under normal conditions their body temperatures are far lower than those of humans. What happens when fish fat enters the human body? Like fat you heat in a frying pan, it melts and becomes fluid. Oil in fish, as it enters the bloodstream of the human, causes the blood to become fluid, lowering the level of bad cholesterol on the blood.

Even when one consumes the same number of fat grams, fish are clearly better than warm-blooded animals for the human body because fish fat enters bloodstream as fluid.

His statement on meat versus fish seems a tad too absolute, and throughout the book he does miss out on several things, if I remember well he's a big promoter of brown rice, for example. However, he also has some things to say that may be of interest to us.
 
Gertrudes said:
...His statement on meat versus fish seems a tad too absolute, and throughout the book he does miss out on several things, if I remember well he's a big promoter of brown rice, for example. However, he also has some things to say that may be of interest to us.

It is difficult to evaluate claims by individuals, especially if there isn't a clear trail of evidence pointing to their conclusions. I have been trying to include a number of different authors, clinicians and other practitioners, bloggers, and podcasters within the paleo/primal community in my reading and listening, in order to provide some degree of checks and balances. I don't know what to say about this person. Without seeing more I would have to question any conclusions about the effect of meat vs. fish on intestines.

There are two big sources of error that show up again and again (until you want to gag) from the medical establishment -- misuse of correlation to imply causation, and use of studies of isolated nutrients to draw conclusions about the effects of consuming whole foods (a form of correlation, actually). My concern in particular is that correlations between foods eaten (meat vs. fish) and intestinal condition don't prove anything by themselves other than that there is a correlation that might be worth investigating. I would have to see more of what he wrote but, frankly, I don't have any desire to spend the time doing that.
 
I listed to an interesting talk from the Real Food Summit today, Paul Chek's Eating Whole Foods for Body, Mind, and Soul. I don't remember the last time I heard a speaker that, in a single presentation, ranged from soil health to soul development! He certainly offers some food for thought for those involved in esoteric work, and if you didn't hear it during the summit but have purchased the downloads, you might want to check it out.

The talk is 90 minutes long, and I am not going to have an opportunity any time soon to do a full outline. What I will do here is throw out a few "sound bites" from the transcript. I am leaving out a great deal of familiar material (including material already covered in the recommended reading) in order to highlight some of the more unusual or interesting statements.

...the microorganisms create what’s called humus, which is organic matter in the soil. And Arden Andersen’s research and Russian research showed very interestingly that the microorganisms actually restructure the soil into a crumb-like structure. And the Russians looked at this, and others have. And what they found is very interesting, that the microorganisms actually create soil that is shaped in a structure that is very, very effective at capturing cosmic rays. So moonlight, sunlight, starlight.

And that is converted into energy that can be used to grow the plant. And because the plant actually depends on the electromagnetic field created by the interaction with the sun and the soil, if the soil is out of balance and the microorganism population is not healthy, then the electromagnetics of the soil become dysfunctional or weak.

And all plants and trees grow vertically along the electrical field because the electrical field runs perpendicular to the magnetic field...

And the same is true of the human energy field. All the way back nine hundred years ago, the Taoist monks determined that the energy field appeared first in gestation before the body actually was even growing. And further research has shown that if our energy field gets damaged, then it is reflected in the way the tissues repair or don’t repair themselves.

So once we have weakened soils, we have a lack of nutrients...

So we get to the point where if a person really wants to take care of themselves, they have to go to farmer’s markets. They have to ask the farmers if they’re farming organically. You can tell when you’re eating real food because the taste and the sense of satiety gained from it is quite obvious. Research in farming has found, for example -- and they’ve also concluded this with humans -- is that anyone eating organic food usually needs about 30% less food to reach a sense of satiety because the nutrient levels are so much higher that satiety is reached much sooner.

So I bring that point up because a lot of people are constantly complaining about the cost of organic food...

...the higher the quality of the food -- which relates to the soil -- the more complete and comprehensive the vitamin complexes are. Most people aren’t aware of this, but isolated vitamins don’t occur in nature. That’s a fallacy. Anyone that wants to learn about that should read the book The Real Truth about Vitamins and Antioxidants by Judith DeCava who was a student of Royal Lee, the founder of Standard Process Labs...

...the analogy Royal Lee uses, which is a very good one, is he asks the question, “Which part of a watch tells time?” Well, the answer is, “The whole watch tells time.” If I had you a bucket of sweep hands, I haven’t improved your ability to tell time. If I hand you a bunch of winding dials, I haven’t improved your ability to tell time.

So the point that Royal Lee made was that whenever you take any concentrated vitamin into your body such as vitamin A or B6 or any of the isolate vitamins, your body actually has to go around and rebuild the rest of the complex in order to make that work in the system...

...if you can reduce food toxicity, all that resources and energy is available to help you deal with our toxic environment, which now includes all sorts of problems with radio fallout...

Water has an almost infinite capacity to store information. So if you’re raising plants that are bringing cosmic energy in due to good soil mechanics, they’re storing a lot of cosmic energy. And that information is used by the body to help regulate hormonal functions. That energy is used for almost every function in our body...

Some of the key points I wanted to share with you ... is that the body is inseparable from the brain or the mind. Daniel Siegel, M.D., gives the best description of what the mind is I’ve ever found anywhere. And he says, “The mind is an embodied process that regulates the flow of energy and information.”...

...stress causes a reversion from whole-brain processing to left brain dominant processing...

...the soul is what exists as consciousness within anything that has an inside and an outside. And the best teachings that I’ve found other than the people that I’ve mentioned on the soul are Rudolph Steiner’s teaching. And if you study Steiner’s teachings, which is congruent with what I’m sharing with you here, you will see that there is a material soul. So a rock has a soul. A mountain has a soul. The world has a soul. So any atom has a soul. Anything built out of atoms has a soul...

So now that you understand what a soul, you can see from our previous discussion so far that farming, soil quality, whole food eating, are all essential for creating and maintaining healthy materials to build your body out of. That’s your biological soul. And having good materials to work with, as you heard me say before, “You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken -shite-.”...

So keeping our biology or our body healthy with adequate nutrient and water reserves to create the stable platform for emotional and mental function, so keeping the biological soul healthy is the absolute must if you want to have a healthy intellectual mind or mind-soul...

Only a healthy person is likely to be truly open-minded for the simple fact that, as I’ve discussed, ill health is a survival threat that results in left brain dominant... And therapists often sit around banging their head against the wall going, “Why in the world do these people come for help when they don’t do anything I tell them?!” Well, it’s not that they don’t want to. It’s simply that they can’t because their brain function is, as I’ve described, closed- minded as a result of trying to conserve energy and not engage with things outside of the ego structure so that they don’t waste energy that they need for essential survival and repair...

I will stop with that last one. It really jumped out at me, because I have been contemplating this same possibility with regard to what we have been calling "authoritarian followers" (thanks to Bob Altemeyer). I keep thinking that there are just too many of these "followers," and wondering if it has to do with the horrid food that people are eating. What a perfect setup -- entice people into eating trash instead of food, trash that limits their ability to think for themselves (talk about "mind control!"). And now Paul Chek is saying it too. And his observations fit well with those of Nora Gedgaudas, although she doesn't make that particular point (I don't think). Hmmmm.
 
Megan said:
There are two big sources of error that show up again and again (until you want to gag) from the medical establishment -- misuse of correlation to imply causation, and use of studies of isolated nutrients to draw conclusions about the effects of consuming whole foods (a form of correlation, actually). My concern in particular is that correlations between foods eaten (meat vs. fish) and intestinal condition don't prove anything by themselves other than that there is a correlation that might be worth investigating.

Indeed, and my quote above simply from what I can remember, which is faulty, can't really be anything else beyond a curious remark, at best.
I would like to have more time in my hands to check the book out again to see if there is something in there worth looking into, but unfortunately I haven't.

Besides what you said Megan, it is also often the case that a correlation is observed, and doctors fabricate a meaning for it based on their beliefs in order to explain it. I think we often can't accept the idea that we simply lack data to be able to construct a clear picture, so we naturally create one with the little (often faulty) data we have. It may be the case with the above, I don't know.

I'm also not sure of what to think of his take on meat versus fish fat. He is a bit too extreme in is thinking, in that considering all meat fat as bad because it hardens due to temperature differences seems to be missing on a whole host of other things, although more backround would obviously be needed to evaluate this. However there are so many trails one can follow that choosing one just because, can well be a waste of time, so we might take the above as curious remarks for now with a huge grain of salt.
 
Gertrudes said:
After reading on several blogs as well as here how fish, and particularly seafoods are so nutrient dense, having just the right balance of fatty acids to keep one's brain healthy, I have for two months now incorporated fish in my diet. I make a point of eating fish at least once a week. Similarly to Alana I may also be biased, I'm from a country where fish is eaten in quantity, so I do love fish.

I eat fish at least three times a week, often more.

To support this claim of nutrient dense seafoods, here is the latest blog from Dr Jack Kruse:
BRAIN GUT 5:PARADIGM DRIFTS PARADIGM SHIFTS:EPI-PALEO?
Posted On:
07/18/2012

READERS SUMMARY:

1. WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF BRAIN GUT 4 AND 5 FOR MODERN HUMANS?
2. HOW DOES ENVIRONMENT SIGNALS GET TRANSLATED INTO THE LANGUAGE OF BIOCHEMISTRY?
3. WHAT MAKE SHELLFISH SO DAMN SPECIAL TO HUMANS?
4. WHAT ARE THE BRAIN SPECIFIC NUTRIENTS OF THE EPI- PALEO TEMPLATE?
5. DO YOU THINK OF FOOD AS HORMONE INFORMATION AND NOT A METABOLIC FUEL?

GEEKS: The implications of Brain Gut 4 mean that to develop a brain seafood is required part of the program to maintain it. Nutrients and many other environmental factors have also been found to influence epigenetic programing of our DNA either directly or indirectly via metabolic sensors.
Peroxisomal proliferator-activated receptors (PPAR’s), the vitamin D receptors, and the retinoid X receptors (RXR), and the retinoic acid receptors (RAR) are all examples of the nuclear receptors that interact with the brain cell membranes to control inflammation and metabolism all over our bodies. It turns out that PPAR’s are the receptors that are at the crossroads of where inflammation and metabolism actually cross. These are specialized lipid sensors that pay attention to our balance of omega 6 and 3 levels. 3% of the human genome is directly or indirectly controlled by the endocrine functions of the Vitamin D system. This shows you how environmental signals are intertwined into the expression of DNA in humans.
NON GEEKS: What we eat is really damn important when you have 3 lbs of lipid in your head called a brain. If you eat outside our design you get sick.

Levee 13 in the Quilt talks in depth about the effects of certain lipids on PPAR. It turns out DHA/EPA have massive effects upon it. Moreover, it also turns out that fish based PUFA (DHA) is also a ligand of retinoid X receptors (RXR), and RAR binds most of the forms of Vitamin A in our bodies. Remember from the Hormone 101 blog to make hormones we need Vitamin A and T3 to be present in good concentrations to convert LDL cholesterol to pregnenolone. Pregnenolone then undergoes transformation to the rest of hormone chain in humans, provided cytokine levels are low. That hormone chain ends in Vitamin D production making it an ideal way to tell us what is going on in that engine.

DHA, the fat in shellfish and seafood, has direct epigenetic affects on human epigenetics: Think Levee 14 of the Quilt

GEEKS: Not only does diet induce immediate changes in DNA activation but it changes its genomic expression by altering the organism’s hormonal status to change the genomic body plan. This is how epigenetics controlled the growth of the human brain, spine, gut, and hind limbs. These are the things that separates us from primates. It is not clear that our genes are not where our major differences are found. Humans are the only mammals that can induce DNA changes just by the way we think. We know that DNA activation and expression occurs with thoughts from functional MRI data and PET scans on human brain function.

NON GEEKS: The food we eat completely determines what kind of health we will have because of the way Mother Nature created us.

Many people in the paleosphere call this area the mind/body connection, but I find this to be a misnomer. The mind is the sum total function of the central nervous system (CNS) and its endocrine secretion is called a thought. That secretion can directly up regulate DNA and RNA activity with gene expression and protein formation. This means that a thought has a tangible action. This ability is found in the biochemistry of the DHA molecule itself.

Few people realize the possibility is that DHA in vivo plays a more direct role in neuronal signaling, in which some special properties conferred on the membrane by DHA chains exert an influence on membrane electrical phenomena (Bloom et al. 1999) This implies that the DHA molecule itself has some special electrical abilities and can exert quantum effects in vivo. The 6 double bonds in DHA allow for its electron cloud in the molecular structure of DHA to become a very special fatty acid with respect to unique properties. Humans exploit those advantages more than any other mammal on this planet. It has been put forth that some polarization of π-electron clouds might occur in the DHA structure, and perhaps even be transmitted from one double bond to another, either within a given chain, or between neighboring chains in the membrane. This means that DHA has different properties in the lipid structures of the brain than it does when a researcher studies it in the lab. It implies these effects are lost when fish oil is in a pill form outside of its evolutionary package of shellfish. This is why supplementation falls far short of eating fish. But why you ask?

When DHA molecules are adjacent to each other in a tissue like the brain the π-electron clouds actually are closer together in space than they are when the DHA molecule is alone by itself in a pill or in a liquid state. This unique ability allows for DHA in a membrane to be come its own receptor in a membrane to allow for amazing electrical abilities. this is why DHA is so special and has been conserved my evolution in the nervous system of all life forms and not replaced with the more common land based form of PUFA’s like DPA we mentioned in Brain Gut 4.

The molecular magic is so impressive, that Roger Penrose has shown how consciousness can be explained by the quantum effects of this one fatty acid. In this molecular arrangement it would allow for gamma coherence of the neural microtubules found in the brain’s substance. This chemistry explains the effects of anesthesia and of consciousness which have not be well described anywhere else in the biologic sciences. It appears the brain is built upon a special fat that allows for quantum effects to happen routinely. These measurements have actually been made in vivo in NMR experiments and electron tunneling experiments. These tunneling of electrons is also found to happen in mitochondrial electron transport respiratory chains as well. Many bloggers so fond of bone collectors data laughed at quantum biology in the evolution. Now you know why. They dont get it……and never have, just like their mentors and idols and the scientists that created the evolutionary dogma we all believe today. Today we need to question that too.

Moreover, this evidence that these things happen within nanoseconds are found in vivo experiments done in medicine daily according to functional MRI data, and EEG strips in all of us that doctors order daily. This is also unique to humans. It’s nothing short of amazing to think evolution can move that fast on a micro level but still not affect the phenotype of the organism in any great macro way. Another paradox of life revealed I guess done by DHA in vivo. (link)

GEEKY INFLAMMATION LINK: We also know today, that epigenetic modifications usually involves activation of NF kappa beta at some point in the biochemical pathways of life. Therefore we must, in this levee, consider inhibitors to NF kappa beta in future additions to “The Quilt”. We now know that DHA is one of those inhibitors of NF kappa beta. This implies a diet high in DHA not only is required for a complex nervous system but it also predicts excellent longevity because of its intranuclear effects on the main “911 controller” of the cytokine storms that cause inflammation and neolithic disease. These findings are nothing short of amazing and help explain why brain DHA levels correspond directly to leptin levels and of mankind’s underlying hormone balance on labs.

NON GEEK: DHA has the built in ability to be super flexible and highly conductive but it protects itself from oxidation because of the quantum effects of its electrons. Paleo dogma tells you PUFA’s are bad. Well DHA is a very unstable PUFA outside the brain because of those 6 double bonds…… but inside it, it becomes a PUFA superman chemical. Outside of it, it is Clark Kent because of a loss of quantum effects on its electron clouds. Remember when people made fun of this post? Be careful what you call bullshit on, when you are not aware of what you really do not know. Food and their electrons matter more than anyone in Paleo could imagine. I was giving a huge hint back then.

Is DHA ancient even for Mother Nature time frames?
It turns out from molecular biology we have learned, that DHA, Vitamin A, and Vitamin D are all ‘molecular dinosaurs’ as environmental signals to the all neural structures in life. DHA and vitamin A, in particular have 600 million year molecular history as sensors in the visual system of all species known to exist in Earth’s history.

A report in 2002 by the United Nations Children Fund showed that brains world wide are being deflated because of a shortage of certain dietary nutrients like iodine, iron, vitamin A and zinc (Ramkrishnan 2002). They reported that malnourished humans have smaller brains in size and reduced cognitive abilities by 5-7 IQ points, when iron is deficient. 13 IQ points is the cost of a low iodine level. I see this daily on MRI scans in my clinic. We are what we eat. When a human brain is ‘ill fueled’ these days we have the capability to measure it with an MRI or a neuro-cognitive test. The evidence worldwide is that we are a species in decline because we are drifting further from the diet that caused our brains to form initially. I mentioned this in my Paleo Summit talk with Sean Croxton. Well, here is that proof of that statement I was criticized for.

When you eat “food-like products” you acquire illness like diseases!

We have moved more to a diet designed to put empty carbohydrate calories into our guts with synthetic man made oils or oils of plants. These moves may help spread out resources to avert hunger world wide, but they have led to a mediocrity of our species in the last 100 years. We may not die of starvation but we are causing our ‘cognitive de-evolution‘ decade by decade. This is obvious when you look at the the recently rising prevalence and incidence in autism, ADHD, AD, and Parkinson’s disease. DHA concentration is directly correlated with disease. A key characteristic of DHA (ω3) deficiency is reduced learning capacity and behavioral pathology seen in humans. This was first described by Michael Crawford in London. The behavioral pathology in an ω3 deficient primate was also shown in Dr. Joseph Hibbeln’s work at the NIH USA (Hibbeln et al. 2005, 2007). It is clear that DHA is directly tied to human brain power. Nothing else in biology accounts for it.

SAVING DARWIN”S REPUTATION?
Moreover, it perfectly vindicates Darwin. Charles Darwin in The Origin of Species (1868) stated there were two forces in evolution, natural selection and the conditions of existence. Of the two, he said, the latter was the most powerful. Most people know about natural selection but few know about the latter. It turns out Darwin was more right than even he knew. This belief almost cost Darwin his legacy because he spent the rest of of life looking for ‘epigenetics’ in an idea labeled “Pangenes”. He believed that Pangenes were responsible for translated environmental influences that have now become known as epigenetics today.

However, Weismann (1893) rejected this view completely, in the all sufficiency based on experiments in which he cut off the tails of breeding rodents (experiments wrongly tied to Lamarkian ideas incorrectly) and observed that subsequent generations still produced tails. That set in train the present paradigm of the modern synthesis of evolution, and genomic determinism within which the DNA is seen as the sole dictator of difference and evolution, and to the notion of the “Selfish Gene” was set forth by Dawkins recently.

For the non geeks : Genomic determinism means DNA and genes control everything. Today we know that its 180 degrees opposite that. It is all about epigenetics.

In 2003, the Duke experiments I mentioned in earlier blogs, like CPC #4, they showed that epigenetics is how “conditions of existence” are readily translated in the mammalian clade by acetylation and methylation patterns on their DNA.

Moreover, the evidence on omega 3 marine food consumption was overwhelming. We found in human diets during pregnancy directly affected childhood intelligence and behavior measured at 8 years of age postnatally. This data should act as a constant reminder that H. sapiens is also subject to Darwin’s conditions of existence (Hibbeln et al. 2007). You rarely hear that in paleo land. Every mother needs to know that data……what they do and eat primarily determines what kind of brain their child will ultimately have. If it is paleo it is good, but it is not optimal or close. This data shows us that mankind is among the most sensitive mammals to dietary epigenetic influence whether we choose to believe it or not. What your grandmother and mother does during pregnancy has huge implications for your brain.

Let us look at what is required to make a brain from an evolutionary nutrient perspective.
Given what we learned in Brain Gut-4 we know we need a constant large stable of DHA to keep the brain running optimally. Now let us look further for the evidence of what else we need from a diet and where we find it in abundance and see if there are any connections to be made.

12 STEPS to the Epi-paleo Rx for Humans:
Think of food as hormone information, not as a metabolic fuel. Think of the Epi-paleo template as human jet fuel for the human nervous system.

1. We need a constant source of DHA and EPA to be present in food and not supplement form to support the metabolism and structure of the brain. DHA has many double bonds in its chemical structure making it inheritantly unstable outside of its chemistry outside of its dietary carriers in seafood. It is best to eat it, and not supplement it. for optimal health. there is substantial data from Dr. Patricia Kane’s lab at Johns Hopkins that fish oil maybe quite dangerous for our EFA ratio’s in cell membranes of neurons. If you do supplement it for any reason you should refrigerate the DHA or freeze it.

2. Recognizing that constantly providing a new source of DHA can power the brain to more optimal performance. The ratio for optimal cell membrane EFA’s is 4:1 at all times in human biologic systems. This balance is critical for optimal system performance in all tissues but is especially true in the central and peripheral nervous system that have massive amounts of excitable membranes. This means that we are adapted to a diet high in shellfish and we likely have adaptations to assist in its collection from the environment. See this link.

3. If the brain is in optimal form the things it controls are also working well. The systems inherent design implies we are only as strong as our weakest link in this blueprint.

4. If the brain is working optimally than it means by definition that inflammation levels are low system wide not just in the brain.

5. With low levels of inflammation leptin and all the distal hormones in the metabolic chain remain in allostasis without the need for exogenous intervention. This implies that understanding hormone allostasis and function is critical to understanding how to treat illness and disease. This is a major point lacking in modern medicine disease management.

6. Brain selective nutrients must be in constant supply to maintain optimal brain function. This means 3-5 days per week at least one meal needs to contain a food source that has access to these nutrients. Think levee one from the Quilt.

THE KEY MINERAL TO HUMAN DEVELOPMENT: IODINE
A. Iodine is so important that world wide national governments mandates have created laws to make sure it is in the food supply of humans. No nutrient is more important to a species with a Ferrari engine in its cranium like we do. The fastest way to suboptimal performance for a human infant is to deplete its iodine source. That disease is cretinism. Iodine is abundant in shellfish, fish, and coastal plants, algae, and seaweed. A good Iodine source is also found in eggs, while meat and nuts are a moderately good source.

Iodine best food source by seafood by a longshot. Iodine is the power behind thyroid hormones, T4 and T3. T3 is critical for brain development but it is critical also for alterations made in embryogenesis to the limb buds as well. This is another area where humans are distinct from primates. Hind limbs were already present and just had to lengthen under the influence of massive dietary sources of T3 from shellfish, while the difference’s in the brain required massive amounts of iodine and DHA to pull off. This is why bipedalism appeared first in the fossil record before encephalization. The bone collector’s are still whistling Dixie over this one.

Iodine has been established as penultimate mineral for fetal brain development in the literature for humans. Low iodine levels specifically impair ketone body formation that directly inhibits myelination in the human brain. This means all hypomyelination states: IE Multiple sclerosis are tied to a loss of iodine at some level. Moreover, hearing and acoustic defects are very common in low iodine states. The reason is simple, the auditory cortex of humans is the area of highest metabolic demand (Sokoloff, 1991). Iodine depletion causes demineralization of the Organ of Corti in the inner ear to cause sensorineural deafness. (Goldey et al, 1995). If you can’t hear, you can’t assimilate speech or speak well. These are other unique human abilities too.

We know that homo habilis had evidence of an enlarging area of its surface brain where the modern human speech areas where. This means that iodine had to be present in great quantities during early neurolation of the auditory and language centers in our ascent from primates. Moreover, when iodine is depleted from pregnant women is does not allow for expansion of the neuronal pool. This implies that iodine is the major driver to all encephalization. The bone collectors see no evidence of this because they are looking at bones and not how human brains form. We also know in amphibians that tadpoles become frogs via a process called metamorphosis when iodine is in high quantities in the form of the bio active form of T3 from the thyroid. There is many evidence of the power of of iodine and the thyroid hormones from shellfish.

The evidence is steep that early homo had to have constant access to the water at all time to get iodine in large quantities. Here is another fact we know about modern humans that is instructive. We know that brain growth is stunted by two major factors. One is dietary a poor nutrient density from the diet or from a disease that inhibits the ability to absorb, assimilate or retain that nutrient. This implies that the diet and the gut are intimitely tied to the formation of the human brain from modern evidence of how our brain works today. You would never guess this from modern medicine because they do not see how a gut could possible be related to brain growth or function.
They are tied together from evolutionary creation of where form meets function. Human nutrition is where there is an intersection of diet and metabolism. It is where environment meets the body. This is the perfect definition of modern day epigenetics.

Humans have no mechanisms to conserve iodine during deficient states.
This implies, it had to be abundant in their evolution from ape. It also implies that humans likely evolved close to shorelines where hydrology favored iodine deposition. Modern medicine still does not know how we absorb iodine in the body from the gut. If you look it up you will see this is true. I have a cite below that talks about it. I found out during some radionuclide Iodine studies I ordered on some patients that the isotopes of iodine seemed to bunch up in places in the gut that corresponded to the gut lining and paracellular pathway in enterocytes. This implied to me, that maybe the leaky gut was the designed to increase our ability to absorb iodine tremendously to fuel alterations to the primate brain and the mammalian body plan to give us some of the unique morphology that humans have. Iodine is needed to form T4 and T3, which were the transforming hormones that altered our new genes for brain growth and the older genes that control hind limb development to allow for bipedalism.

B. Iron is an essential mineral in the heme molecule of hemoglobin and the cytochrome proteins in our mitochondria to make energy. hemoglobin is component of the red blood cell that carries oxygen in the bloodstream. The brain gets 20-23% of the cardiac output of every heart beat. No organ comes close to that consumption. This means the brain needs to have adequate sources of iron to make sure hemoglobin and oxygen are constantly delivered to the brain to maintain performance. Seafood and animal offal are excellent sources of this nutrient. Moreover iron is better absorbed from fish or meat than other sources by the human gut. People who do not eat enough iron can suffer from iron-deficiency anemia. Worldwide, about 1 billion people have iron-deficiency anemia, and about 2 billion people are deficient in zinc (Muller et al., 2005). Iron also facilitates the conversion or T4 to T3 the active thyroid hormone in the body. This makes it very critical for humans. Iron is also vital for temperature control in humans as well because of the effect of T3 on UCP’s. Now go back and re read the magic in Hormone 101 blog now!
In the USA today 20% of women are iron deficient when MD’s check their ferritin levels. Globally, iron deficiency is the major cause of neuro-developmental delay in mal nourished children (Pollitt, 1993) Iron is also a co factor in the receptor of two major brain neurotransmitters, dopamine and GABA and this leads to cognitive decline.

C. Zinc is critical in infant brain development because of its rapid growth. Zinc is the one mineral that is highly concentrated in the brain. The highest density is found in th emossy fibers of the hippocampus. Why is this important? The hippocampus is where humans learn by making new neurons and connections in their rapidly growing brains. Zinc deficiency is felt to be tied to autistic spectrum disorders because of this unique characteristic. Zinc is needed to get enkephalin to bind to its receptor too. We need Zinc to also make norepinephrine in the brain. The biggest need for zinc is in the lipid structure of the brain. We can not make or utilize the PUFA’s of the brain without Zinc. This is especially true of Arachidonic acid. Zinc is a co factor in testosterone and estrogen production which is critical in directing specialization of the brain from male to female in its function. This mineral also helps with immune function and is essential for healing of wounds, development of sexual organs and bones, immune function, storage/release/function of insulin, and cell membrane structure and function (Wardlaw and Smith, 2009) Meat is a good source of zinc , but shellfish is a far superior source. Oysters are the best dietary source and they are found in shallow coastal beds. Connecting any dots yet?

D. Selenium is critical in the brain because of two major ties physiologically. One is the formation of glutathione peroxidase which protects the brain from oxidative damage of glycation and lipid peroxidation of its DHA in cell membranes. DHA is very susceptible to peroxidizable agents in the eye and the brain. Selenium also supports brain and thyroid iodine in metabolism as well. It helps the conversion of thyroid hormones to active T3 outside the brain. Iodine can not be added to T3 without Selenium levels being optimal. This is why we always recommend using selenium before using iodine in supplementation. Hemoglobin production also requires selenium. The brain requires high oxygen tensions to function optimally. Fish and shellfish are ideal sources of Selenium, while meats are a decent source.

E. Vitamin B-12 helps the body maintain sheathes around nerve fibers, to activate another B-vitamin called folic acid, and participates in many cellular processes (Wardlaw and Smith, 2009). It is found exclusively in marine and animal products. Many people seem to be unaware of how good marine sources of B12 actually are. Generally, it is not difficult to get enough vitamin B-12 in an Epi-paleo diet. A 100-gram serving of clam, oyster, mussel, crab and several other shellfish meats will provide more than the Dietary Reference Intake (NAS 2004) of this vitamin
that can be found on Table 7 in the Food and Nutrition Board report to the federal government in 2004.

F. Copper is also an essential mineral in the diet, because it helps to form hemoglobin and collagen (a ubiquitous protein in the body). It is also a part of several enzyme systems, including those that prevent oxidative damage to cell membranes. This is extremely important in the human brain because of the shear amount of cell membranes in the brain. Copper’s major brain effect however, is in the lipids of the myelin sheath that protects signal transmission. When copper is depeted we see hypomyelination in brains and on MRI’s Menke’s disease is an example of a human disease tied directly to copper depletion. People with MS look a lot like those with Menke’s in many respects. Lastly, copper helps to regulate neurotransmitters. (Bryd-Bredbenner et al., 2009). Copper is a co factor for tyrosine hydroxylase to make dopamine. It is a co factor of dopamine beta-hydroxylase that converts dopamine to norepinephrine. It is also s co factor in monoamine oxidase which inactivates NE, serotonin, and dopamine. During evolution and massive brain growth we increased our needs to make connections in fiber tracts and our needs to protect massive amounts of lipid membranes that would damage these delicate structures. Copper was critical in making this possible. Copper is even used as a co factor in cellular respiration. The copper concentrations in shellfish indicate that the flesh of squid, lobster, oyster and several other shellfish are excellent dietary sources of copper. Once again, we find only offal is a good not optimal animal source.

Seafood is crushing animal products in brain nutrient density across the board.

Have you stopped to wonder why yet?

TRUTH BOMB ALERT:
No theory is too special to question: This includes the religion that is paleo is becoming.
If you do not believe what I am laying out here in excruciating detail, I would suggest you read pages 108-113 in Loren Cordain’s latest book, The Paleo Answer. I do not need to write a new Epi-Paleo Rx diet book, because in those tables he clearly makes the case for me about my ideas. That is, seafood , exceeds anything in the paleo answer/solution/blueprint/template in terms of nutrient density for building a HUMAN BRAIN. I am highlighting this for you because it points you to the scientific truth, that to make a human brain, you need to have a very unique mix of nutrients. They are provided in dense quality by shellfish and seafood and not in a purely land based animal diet. That proof was laid out in Brain Gut 4. Take a look in the Denise Minger section of that blog.
This implied to me, any species with a large brain that consumed huge amounts of energy would have to have and eat a stable nutrient dense diet as its brain evolved. They would also have to have some unique adaptations to absorb those nutrients in their guts too. You and I are both humans, and we fit that bill. The Epi-Paleo Rx was buried the work of Cordain since 1999 and uncovered in Dr. Cunnane’s work in 2005-12. All I did was uncover that glaring fact. It’s time we all took a look to see what the data really says instead of just believing what has been published about the findings.

7. Brain selective nutrients act in concert with our optimal gut microflora to have direct affects on genes that control the mammalian body plan and the retroviral genes that caused encephalization to occur. These nutrients are the once that sculpted our body plan from the transitional apes. This pre dates the Paleolithic. So why are we so enamored with the paleolithic as modern humans? Should we not be striving for optimal human fuels or just merely better than the crap we are being fed today by the USDA?

8. Iodine is critical to any optimal health platform because of its effects on free T3 and TSH. There are special adaptations made for the collection of Iodine in the human system because of it. I believe it is absorbed best because the gut is semipermeable due to the fact humans have zonulin and primates do not. This also happens to help humans absorb DHA in high volumes as well. Thyroid hormones, including the prohormone thyroxine (T4) and its active version T3 are important regulators of vertebrates neurodevelopment. Specific transporters and deiodinases are required to ensure T3 access to the developing brain. T3 activates a number of differentiation processes in neuronal and glial cell types by binding to nuclear receptors, acting directly on gene transcription in the developing brain and neocortex of humans.

9. The brain has its own thyroid hormone system to make sure it is ideally formed while in the protective cocoon of the placenta and is optimally maintained postnatally. The effect of low Iodine levels on humans after birth is dramatic and has life long effects in many organ systems. Cretinism is the result of low iodine during and after pregnancy and is very common world wide in humans living far away from marine environments. This is also true of the other brain selective nutrients but most prominent in Iodine. Today most of those organ dysfunctions remain in our blind spots. The standard western diet is very low in brain forming nutrients and maintanence nutrients and this is why we are seeing massive spikes in Autism and Alzheimers disease respectively. One is a developmental epigenetic disease (Autism) and the other is the result of a life long deficiency of brain forming nutrients with a substitution of PUFA and carbohydrates. This leads to protein conformation problems and breakdown of the critical cell membrane EFA ratio’s int he brain to rapidly change electrochemical gradients of excitable membranes that the brain requires for functioning. Cognitive decline is directly tied to these system failures. This in turn directly affects the cerebral metabolic oxygen consumption. This is why AD is associated with low acetylcholine levels in synapses and low EEG patterns and low blood flow on perfusion and metabolic studies. Synapses use more o2 than any part of the lipid membrane and they are overloaded with DHA. This would seem incongruent because DHA is so susceptible to oxidation because it has 6 double bonds in it.

I did my residency at LSU, where Dr. Nicholas Bazan (opthomology researcher) found that we make derivative docosanoids from DHA that are profound brain anti oxidant. This means that this PUFA is not only a great electrical conductor when stacked against each other, but it is also an amazing insulator for ROS. These derivatives are called neuroprotectins (NDP1). When the brain loses its DHA levels substantially, it become more susceptible to oxidation and protein folding malformations. This is seen in Alzheimers disease and aging. The molecular design of DHA, the polyenoic fatty acid most susceptible to peroxidation and located in regions of the most intense oxygen use in the central nervous system, is a remarkable feat of Mother Nature. Now you know how she did it. DHA is quite special, in fact, more special than most knew for human speciation.
The brain is the ultimate energy hog for nutrients and oxygen. It has no tolerance for lacking in either. If it does not get either, cognitive performance declines rapidly. We also know that when DHA levels fall (AD) cognitive function drops as well. When these changes occur they are usually seen with atherosclerosis of the vertebral and carotid arteries that feed the brain blood and oxygen.

10. These brain selective nutrients are provided in abundance to humans because of special physiologic and morphologic adaptations made in the human gut. These are not found in primates because they have no need for them because they do not encephalize much postnatally. The gut is designed to be naturally semi-permeable to brain selective nutrients. The blood brain barrier also has special features to allow easy passage of some lipid nutrients, like DHA, and block out the passage of most other substance to protect its performance.

11. The parasympathetic nervous system controls the connections between the gut and the brain. On each end of this conduit are two specialized membranes to control the optimal health milieu of both the gut and the brain at all times. The policeman of this system is the vagus nerve. Its connections to both systems are intricate and vast in humans compared to transitional ape. The leptin receptor is the thermostat of this system’s efficiency. Like a thermometer uses mercury to record the temperature levels, inflammation is the leptin receptors’ mercury. Inflammation is what destroys the hormone response by lowering T3 and stopping conversion of LDL cholesterol to the steroid pathways.

MASSIVE IMPORTANCE #1: This makes reading the steroid pathways response the Rosetta stone for human health monitoring. This implies that we need to think of food as hormone information, not as a metabolic fuel. Think of the Epi-paleo Rx as human jet fuel for the our nervous system. We go as our brain goes. Think of the GI tract as a metabolic computer which adjusts your physiology in response to the nutrients it detects. This is how the Brain Gut axis works in humans.

12. Cooking of these marine food sources impedes their optimal usefulness to the optimal system functioning but it can easily be overcome by increasing those nutrients from other less dense sources or increasing the volume of cooked seafood eaten.
One small example of the effect of cooking is the formation of estrogen in humans. When there is a large volume of undercooked or raw seafood eaten consistently it favors the formation of a special estrogen called estriol (E3). During rapid growth of a fetus a big risk to the system is uncontrolled growth in a high growth environment. This is commonly known as cancer. Estriol (E3) is the weakest of the three major estrogens. In fact, it is 1,000 times weaker in its effect on breast tissue. Vitamin D is found in great concentrations in many seafoods. Weston A Price mentioned it many times in his writings. Vitamin D was found to be exceedingly important in breast cancer prevention in 2009 and the link further cemented recently when the JAMA linked artifical light to breat cancer risk as well. Estriol is the estrogen that is made in large quantities during pregnancy and has potential protective properties against the production of cancerous cell transformation. This is the evolutionary protection of fetal structure by estriol in a highly powered growth state. This is yet another reason why maternal dietary seafood consumption correlates with brain power of children at 8 years old postnatally as I mentioned above.

Raw seafood will not limit the production of estradiol and estrone by the gut flora, as well that confers major advantages to humans as they age as well. These are commonly found in humans who eat large amounts of undercooked seafood. Both of these estrogens are been shown to have links to many human diseases when other systems are out of their allosteric hormonal balance.

SUMMARY:
In 2005, Dr. Cunnane found that eating one kilogram (1/2 pound) of shellfish from mollusks and crustaceans is all that is needed to meet these requirements to fuel human brain growth. Shellfish happens to be found in shallow water sources and was known to be abundant in the Rift Zone coastal fossils. Cunnane’s data also was in line with what Cordain reported from 1999 to 2005, but Dr. Cunnane went further with this data.

He showed that it would have been impossible to form the size of the current human brain without a seafood source because DHA was the critical element to its construction. Meat does not contain enough DHA to form a human brain. This implies paleo alone is not enough. This is why the internet forms are loaded with people not hitting their targets. The evidence for that is found in the brain to body ratio’s of all land based mammals on this planet. It seems today many are blinded to this science. This insight might have hit the bone collectors or the early paleo supporters, if they had examined closely, what really separates us from primates, instead of assuming what has been published in the literature was factually correct.

One thing that was very concerning to me in Cordain’s and Eaton’s 2005 paper listed in cite 8, is that it was not just based upon the facts that we know to be true today. It was based upon a belief that a theory was based upon. This reminded me of Cordain’s stance on saturated fats in his first paleo diet book as well that have evolved, and I expect his views to change on this soon as well. In fact, later that very same year, Dr. Cunnane published a landmark paper (cite 9,10) that showed what Cordain and Eaton wrote was just not factual about DHA biochemistry and human brain evolution. Dr. Cunnane has spoken about this incongruity many times since 2005 and has given an amazing amount of data to refute Cordain and Eaton when it comes to human brain evolution and diet. This is one area where the paleo answer is trumped by the Epi-paleo Rx, as I have outlined here. Again these are not my ideas of theories. I am merely shining a light on what is published for you to examine critically. Only your health and longevity maybe at stake if you chose to ignore it.

It appears we evolved on this shellfish/seafood template and we have been evolving away from it as we moved from our coastal existences throughout our history. The paleo diet is good enough to sustain us today compared to a SAD, but it is not optimal for making or maintaining the human brain.
This has huge implications for many people with neurodegenerative conditions (or diseases that are linked to organs from ectoderm in the embryo) that I treat daily. I think a combination of these diets were mixed as man began to move around the globe to populate it. Interestingly today the world health organization still lists over 1 billion humans suffering from low iodine issues because they live inland and are land locked. This finding, today, supports Dr. Cunnane’s research findings about what are needed to build a human brain from our diet.

The classic neurodegenerative disease of modern man is Alzheimer’s disease. After reading this blog you should realize precisely why it is overwhelming modern humans. They have a huge deficiency of all the brain specific nutrients in their diet while they are eating foods that are man made that steepen the onset of the disease, namely refind carbs, grains, and industrial PUFA’s that are oxidized easily. Read this link on AD for more details about this disease.

Where we came from initially had to be the seacoast because there are no sources of of several of the brain specific nutrients in places inland and over mountains. This also follows how Homo migrated out of Africa by following coastal waters. There is a lot of evidence that we brought elephants with us on that journey to make passage. And yes, you can fish off the back of an elephant in case you were wondering and dive for oysters too.

So after 5 parts of this series what was Homo’s solution?

Paleo or Epi-paleo……..you decide.



I just want to point out what we know now. It might have implications for you now. Optimal is a road that breaks free of land based solution to diet. My e-cookbook reflects what the science is pointing me too. What is good for our brain appears to be good for all human biology.

It’s funny how form meets function in evolution, no?

For my members on my site we will be unveiling the Epi-paleo Rx for our members in our July Webinar next Tuesday night. The details will be forthcoming when tickets go on sale by seating will be limited and open to members before the public. If the members fill it up first there will not be any extra webinar tickets available. Details to follow from “tellmisty” on my forums……..Enjoy your week!

CITES:
1. http://www.wsg.washington.edu/communications/online/shellfishnutrition_09.pdf
2. http://www.livestrong.com/article/339801-nutritional-values-of-meat-fish/
3. http://foodconfessional.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/meat-nutrition-information/
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seafood
5. The Paleo Answer, Loren Cordain
6. http://paleohacks.com/questions/117616/been-on-paleo-for-3-months-now-starting-to-feel-very-bad#axzz1ykWRpDHq (Faileo)
7. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21765985
8. Cordain, L., Eaton, S. B., Sebastian, A., Mann, N., Lindeberg, S., Watkins, B. A., O’Keefe, J.H., Brand-Miller, J. 2005 Origins and evolution of the Western diet: Implications for the 21st century. Am J.Clin Nutr 81: 341-54.
9. Cunnane, S.C 2005b. Origins and evolution of the Western diet: implications of iodine and seafood intake for the human brain. Am J. Clin Nutrition 82: 483
10. Cunnane, S. C. 2007. Docosahexaenoic acid and human brain evolution: missing the forest for the trees. Br. J. Nutr 97: 1021-22.
11. Cunnane, S.C. Survival of the Fattest.
12.http://www.terrapub.co.jp/onlineproceedings/fs/wfc2008/pdf/wfcbk_057.pdf
 
There is something I do wonder. Kruse says that "The paleo diet [...] is not optimal for making or maintaining the human brain." But what about eating brains? Don't brains from a grassfed animal contain all the nutrients, fats etc. that are needed for us to make or maintain our own? (Sorry if this sounds zombie-ish!)

Regarding fish, I don't seem to get any kind of bad reaction from eating it, as long as it is wild-caught from good (or atleast better) areas.
 
Kruse's comments are interesting as always, but I when I attempt to distill out the hype and side-tracking he seems for the most part to be saying things similar to what others in the paleo community are saying. He brings in the aquatic ape hypothesis, which I like, but an AA origin would not automatically imply that we couldn't have evolved to be successful consuming other food sources as well. That said, I have cut out fish oil supplements and have been increasing my own consumption of fish. :)

My impression is that Kruse is well positioned as a neurosurgeon with a clinical/surgical practice to see what is really going on with people's health, and also that he is establishing himself as a distinctive commercial "brand" within the paleo community, as others have done. I am just not entirely sure what he is up to, and I am listening to him with some caution.
 
Oxajil said:
There is something I do wonder. Kruse says that "The paleo diet [...] is not optimal for making or maintaining the human brain." But what about eating brains? Don't brains from a grassfed animal contain all the nutrients, fats etc. that are needed for us to make or maintain our own? (Sorry if this sounds zombie-ish!)

When it comes to the fat, it should do the trick. Possibly likewise for many of other nutrients, though I don't know whether all of them are stored (or at least plentiful) in the brain or merely used in processes needed to maintain it.

In any case, brain would be a highly prized food of our paleo-ancestors, and - or so I speculate - likely a contributing reason for paleo hunter-gatherers having been able to keep in such good shape, physically and mentally. After all, they managed to grow their brains significantly larger than ours.

Our culture and its norms for what's "icky" and not to eat - including in the case of brains, etc. - really is bizarre nonsense, in looking at its fruits. Best never to respect it - any conditioned reaction or concern that goes against the truth about health and nutrition should be destroyed.

Oxajil said:
Regarding fish, I don't seem to get any kind of bad reaction from eating it, as long as it is wild-caught from good (or atleast better) areas.

Likewise; I have now begun to increase the amount of fish eaten, "cooking" it lightly in the frying pan with a little bit of water, but still leaving it quite rare. I eat the fish with skin included; otherwise, I'd waste a fair portion of good fat.

Farmed fish is definitely out - it is nearly devoid of any healthy fat, and no doubt sick and unwell in many ways, living in a small, confined (and thus for it unnatural) environment and fed garbage. Farmed salmon is nearly the only salmon found here - and for about one and a half years, I have had a strange, instinctive revulsion to it, becoming nauseous just trying to eat it. It is also very, very poor in healthy fat. Fortunately, there's good herring, mackerel and other kinds of fish to be found.
 
speaking of eating Brains, here in germany it is illegal, at least a butcher told me so when I tried to buy it several months ago.
according to the butcher it was made illegal after the BSE and other plagues emmerged a few years back here in germany.

that alone makes it interesting to me, who knows maybe there are some good things in brains for the human body and brain ?
 
Pashalis said:
speaking of eating Brains, here in germany it is illegal, at least a butcher told me so when I tried to buy it several months ago.
according to the butcher it was made illegal after the BSE and other plagues emmerged a few years back here in germany.

that alone makes it interesting to me, who knows maybe there are some good things in brains for the human body and brain ?

They look and taste nasty. Yuck.
 
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