Mass Shootings

Yes, that one's the silver SUV the limo crashed into on its way through the parking lot. The SUV was hit so hard, it instantly knocked dead two passers-by.



That's the limo. The back of it's on the left. Looks the same as the one I posted showing the vehicle being winched out of there.



That's normal. When you search for photos of this particular limo now, all sorts of images of crashed limos turn up.



No it's not. In the case of hospitals without patients, we can agree that we both notice what's missing: lots of sick and dying people in hospitals. In the case of the Schoharie limo crash, I don't see your interpretation of the details.

The two photos I showed you were USED TO DOCUMENT THE CRASHED VEHICLE ITSELF -- in online articles, even on t.v.. Also, had there been a mangled limo photo like the most recent photo they are using, believe me they'd have used it at the time.

When I get my other computer online, I will see what I can add in the way of back-up.

As I said earlier, there was also a "body" problem with this crash.
 
That's normal. When you search for photos of this particular limo now, all sorts of images of crashed limos turn up.

There's nothing "normal" about it. It's another example of how "fake" images are used to manipulate the public mind. It's an embedded aspect of the "synthetic terror" trade -- which is why, to you, it now seems "normal."
 
There's nothing "normal" about it. It's another example of how "fake" images are used to manipulate the public mind. It's an embedded aspect of the "synthetic terror" trade -- which is why, to you, it now seems "normal."
To further clarify: I was talking about the thumbnails used on the Youtube videos on the Schoharie "crash" at the time of the incident, not google searches.
 
The limo involved in the Schoharie crash was mangled:
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Again on this Schoharie business (and then I'm taking a nap!): I thought to put these two images together since it illustrates better the case I've been trying to make. Not only did the top image not exist at the time of the "crash," it in no way resembles the lack of damage shown in the bottom image, which was brought out not long after the "crash." See how in the top photo the fourth window [counting from the back] and its accompanying door are completely gone, which isn't at all the case in the bottom photo where the fourth window and its accompanying door are completely intact.

On a side note: notice the seeming pixilation at the front end of the vehicle in the bottom photo. There is a light above it, but what should be the reflection of that light on the vehicle still seems far too white and pixilated for it to be an untampered with area in the photo. As to what is being masked, and why... not sure. Perhaps it's an attempt to obscure a lack of damage.
 
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Again on this Schoharie business (and then I'm taking a nap!): I thought to put these two images together since it illustrates better the case I've been trying to make. Not only did the top image not exist at the time of the "crash,"

Yes, that's because it was taken after the vehicle was winched out of the creek into which it crashed. You're unlikely to find any close-up images from the crash scene depicting the vehicle itself because it is standard practice for the media not to do so - in part because emergency responders keep them back, in part because it's commonly understood that it's disrespectful to take footage for the purpose of public dissemination of a car accident, particularly one in which dead and badly broken bodies are inside and around the vehicle.

...it in no way resembles the lack of damage shown in the bottom image, which was brought out not long after the "crash." See how in the top photo the fourth window [counting from the back] and its accompanying door are completely gone, which isn't at all the case in the bottom photo where the fourth window and its accompanying door are completely intact.

Yes, I mentioned that earlier, and suggested it's likely because that fourth door was removed after the vehicle was retrieved and stored.

On a side note: notice the seeming pixilation at the front end of the vehicle in the bottom photo. There is a light above it, but what should be the reflection of that light on the vehicle still seems far too white and pixilated for it to be an untampered with area in the photo. As to what is being masked, and why... not sure. Perhaps it's an attempt to obscure a lack of damage.
Our view of the front (in profile) is obscured in the first photo by the bright flood-lights. I don't see why it would have been deliberately staged this way so as to hide something from public knowledge. To believe or suspect that, I would first have to have evidence or reasonable suspicion that something of particular importance regarding this case was being hidden from public knowledge.

You clearly see a lot more to this incident than I do, but may I ask you to refrain from further discussing the Schoharie incident on this thread? You may start a separate thread if you have more to share on that matter. Back to the atrocities committed in Nova Scotia...
 
Yes, that's because it was taken after the vehicle was winched out of the creek into which it crashed. You're unlikely to find any close-up images from the crash scene depicting the vehicle itself because it is standard practice for the media not to do so - in part because emergency responders keep them back, in part because it's commonly understood that it's disrespectful to take footage for the purpose of public dissemination of a car accident, particularly one in which dead and badly broken bodies are inside and around the vehicle.



Yes, I mentioned that earlier, and suggested it's likely because that fourth door was removed after the vehicle was retrieved and stored.


Our view of the front (in profile) is obscured in the first photo by the bright flood-lights. I don't see why it would have been deliberately staged this way so as to hide something from public knowledge. To believe or suspect that, I would first have to have evidence or reasonable suspicion that something of particular importance regarding this case was being hidden from public knowledge.

You clearly see a lot more to this incident than I do, but may I ask you to refrain from further discussing the Schoharie incident on this thread? You may start a separate thread if you have more to share on that matter. Back to the atrocities committed in Nova Scotia...
Yes, we should have another thread for this. Maybe there's a way to move the existing discussion to a new thread? There's one interview in particular I'm hoping to find which might even pique your interest, Niall, although I can't be sure of that since you haven't agreed with me on much of anything thus far!

Since you brought up some additional points, this post is just to respond in that vein. It seems only fair, after all.

With regard to the bottom photograph, I didn't say or imply it was "deliberately staged." I pointed out how the photograph is pixilated and overly white in that one area (as compared to the quality of the rest of the photograph). As to why it is like that, I suggested it could be to mask something in that photo (such as a lack of damage, I speculated). "Deliberately staged" is something altogether different. It would be to set up the shot. I'm talking about what seems to have been done to the shot after the fact. And since my working hypothesis is that all these images are "found" images, then it could be relevant in that context.

You know, Niall, the fact that you see those two photos as depicting the same vehicle is rather astonishing to me! We do see even what's right in front of our eyes entirely differently.

And no, I don't agree that in the age of the internet especially there wouldn't be photographs indicative of a very serious crash, which didn't at all exist at the time of the accident. As for protecting the families, were the completely random, extreme, car wreck thumbnail "teasers" on the Schoharie Youtube videos meant to protect these families?

Anyway, thank you, Niall, for a rigorous debate; and, yes, on to Nova Scotia...
 
Just to add to the picture here:

May 9th, 2020
Q: (L) Well... Any other questions?

(Niall) There was a major mass shooting in Canada two weeks ago in the middle of all of this. Mass shooting in Nova Scotia, officially it's one guy who killed 23 people, burned down 16 structures, 5 cars, killed two cops, and did it all in the space of 13 hours before finally being killed. I suppose the question is: Did he really do all of that alone?

A: No.

Q: (Joe) Well, the effect of that was that the Canadian government banned 1500 types of guns.

(L) It was set up just to do that.

(Joe) And it happened at a time when everybody was looking in the opposite direction because of coronavirus.

If anything else has been the Justin-governments tactics, nothing new, just like in Ottawa years before with PM Harper, and this time using the Privy Council to make an order in council - just like that.

The obfuscation of facts in the press in this case has been plain to see (with a legal case against the government over this), and here we have the National Post with an update, of sorts:

May 18, 2020
5:00 PM EDT
Nova Scotia mass shooting: New information about murder rampage delayed by government lawyers

Up to seven redacted RCMP documents were expected to be released Tuesday, but that number has now dropped sharply

Government lawyers admit they are already significantly behind the court’s schedule for releasing information about last month’s Nova Scotia shooting rampage, before they have even begun to do so.

In response to a legal challenge by media organizations for information regarding the worst spree killing in Canada’s history — the murder of 22 victims by a gunman masquerading as an RCMP officer — up to seven redacted RCMP documents were expected to be released Tuesday, according to a timetable set in court.

On Friday, however, Mark Covan, representing the Public Prosecution Service of Canada, notified a judge that only one warrant could be stripped of information that the Crown deems too sensitive in time for Tuesday’s hearing.

“The Crown has been working diligently on vetting the ITOs,” a letter from Covan says, referencing “Information to Obtain” documents that police file when seeking judicial authorization to conduct a search of someone’s property.

“Unfortunately, because of the volume, the structure of the ITOs and the need to consult, that process is moving more slowly than expected. We have identified one ITO that, we believe, is the most comprehensive and have focused our efforts on that document. We anticipate having it ready on the 19th, but the others will take longer to complete.”

There are expected to eventually be 20 applications for judicial authorizations of search warrants and production orders prepared by the RCMP in its investigation of the shootings, which began on April 18 and continued through the night and into the next day.

The warrants, many to search property owned by the gunman, Gabriel Wortman, 51, who was shot and killed by the RCMP, were executed at different times and are in different stages of being processed.

Case law says search warrant information — once executed and if items are seized by police — should be public information.

It is up to the government to justifyany ongoing secrecy” surrounding the contents of the warrants, David Coles, a lawyer representing the media consortium, which includes Postmedia, said at a hearing last week.

The Crown was expected to release on Tuesday redacted versions of the first batch of RCMP documents: four search warrants, two production orders and a more recently closed warrant, which Judge Laurie Halfpenny MacQuarrie collectively called “the Group of Seven.”

The documents are expected to be heavily redacted — censored of information the government wishes to keep secret — while lawyers continue to argue in court over what should ultimately be made public.

The judge called this the “first round of redactions” to be made.

The Crown’s slow progress significantly reduces the information set to be made available this week.

Covan said at the hearing on May 11 that the government needs to balance what’s to be released with “keeping investigative materials confidential.”

Mark Heerema, a lawyer representing the provincial prosecution service, said that even though Wortman is dead and can no longer face charges, prosecutors are “protecting that ongoing investigation,” as there is the “possibility that given this ongoing investigation, there may be other prosecutions which can emerge.”

Shauna MacDonald, another lawyer with the Nova Scotia public prosecution service, said at the May 11 hearing: “Redactions take a tremendous amount of time. There’s consultation with investigating officers, there’s work done by the Crown agencies, and both Crown agencies, with investigating officers.”

The hearings are being held by teleconference because of COVID-19 restrictions. The media’s legal challenge seeking more information regarding the shootings comes amid growing calls for increased transparency in the case and its prelude.

On Friday, a group of law professors at Dalhousie University wrote a letter to Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil calling for a public inquiry.

“In a modern democracy committed to state accountability, an internal investigation will not suffice. Independence, impartiality and transparency are essential components of maintaining public confidence in the administration of justice. Only a public inquiry can satisfy these requirements,” the letter says.

“The families of the victims, Nova Scotians and Canadians deserve a transparent, impartial and independent assessment of why and how this incident occurred.”

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The office of denturist Gabriel Wortman, who police say went on a shooting spree killing multiple people, is seen in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada April 19, 2020. REUTERS/Sean Dewitt

The Nova Scotia RCMP continues its investigation of the shootings in a probe designated Operation H-Strong. (All RCMP operational projects in Nova Scotia start with the letter H, the force’s designation for the province).

Over 13 hours, Wortman, a denturist, went on a terrifying mobile shooting spree across northern Nova Scotia, dressed in an authentic RCMP uniform and driving an exact replica of an RCMP cruiser.

The violent rampage started with a domestic assault, when Wortman assaulted and held captive a woman in Portapique, about 135 kilometres north of Halifax. She managed to escape and hid overnight in a wooded area.

Police received the first 911 call at 10:01 on April 18, reporting a shooting at a nearby residence, RCMP said.

Wortman then set out in an unearned uniform and fake cruiser, leaving an outrageous and tragic path of carnage: setting fires to homes and killing their occupants, shooting passersby and people coming to help, killing an RCMP constable trying to stop him, pulling over cars and killing the people inside.

He knew some of his victims and others were seemingly random encounters, police said.

His victims included a police officer, a teacher, two nurses, two prison guards, a fellow denturist, business owners, a family including a 17-year-old daughter, neighbours and others.

“There are many areas of investigation as we continue to piece together the gunman’s movements, possible motivation and whether he received assistance leading up to the incidents,” the RCMP said in an investigation update last week.

The RCMP’s Behavioural Analysis Unit is conducting a psychological autopsy of the gunman. The intent is to gather insights into the reasons for his violent spree, including an analysis of his personality, past behaviour and how he related to others, the RCMP said.

Investigators say that when Wortman left the area of his home on April 18, he had two semi-automatic handguns and two semi-automatic rifles with him, all of them now recovered by police.

Police believe three of those guns were obtained in the United States and the RCMP is working with the Canada Border Services Agency to probe their cross-border transit, the RCMP said. The other gun was traced to an origin within Canada. The calibre of the weapons was not released.

“Determining where and how the gunman obtained the firearms is a central part of the investigation and we use this detailed information to verify the credibility of some of the information we receive,” the RCMP said. Police said that after Wortman killed RCMP Const. Heidi Stevenson, he took her gun with him.

Police have also identified the source of the RCMP decals on the gunman’s replica police cruiser. The decals were created at a business without the permission of the business owner, and both the owner and the individual who made the decals are cooperating with police, the RCMP said.

Further, investigators believe Wortman used an accelerant to start the many fires he left behind. “We know the gunman had a significant supply of gasoline at his home in Portapique,” the RCMP said.

Investigators have spoken to 500 witnesses and are continuing to conduct interviews, the RCMP said. Surveillance video from businesses and homes has also been collected to track the gunman’s movements.

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A Ford Police Interceptor sedan with no markings, is parked at the Atlantic Denture Clinic in Dartmouth, N.S. on Monday, April 20, 2020. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Andrew Vaughan

Ground-penetrating radar was used to search under the ground at Wortman’s property in Portapique, but nothing of relevance was found.

Searches of 17 crime scenes from the rampage have now ended and all properties have been released to their owners.

Investigators still want to speak with anyone who “had a conflict with the gunman, whether professional or personal, at any time.” The RCMP said. Anyone with information is asked to call an RCMP tip line at 1-833-570-0121.

In a separate article by the National Post on the firearms:

snip said:
Gabriel Wortman, who police have said didn’t have a licence for the weapons, was shot and killed by RCMP officers April 19 outside a gas station in Enfield, N.S.

"didn’t have a licence for the weapons" resulted in the most mind-boggling banning of firearms imaginable - after reviewing the list they hit every manufacture with big black pens (remember that Canada has very strict firearms laws as it is). To make matters worse, there is confusion now as many are saying basic shotguns and hunting rifles are on the list. There will also be legal challenges and court cases, including the WTO. What a kerfuffle.

To describe this further, here is an email from the BC Wildlife Federation to the less than honorable Minister Blair:


May 8th, 2020
Dear Minister Blair,
I am writing to bring your attention to what I can only believe is an accidental error. We trust that once you become aware of this oversight, you will speedily move to make the appropriate corrections.
By including firearms used by millions of Canadian hunters and sport shooters, you not only violated your previous promise not to do so, but you inadvertently penalized millions of law-abiding firearms owners, both hunters and sport shooters, and destroyed hundreds of small Canadian businesses that sell firearms and other sporting equipment, all without increasing public safety. It serves no good public safety purpose to deliberately alienate one of the most law-abiding segments of our community.
Contrary to your promises made earlier, the recent ban on "assault-style firearms," inappropriately included a large number of sporting rifles and shotguns. For example, on 31 January 2020, a spokesperson in your office stated, "We … will not target guns designed for hunting. Hunters, farmers, and law-abiding recreational gun owners will be treated with fairness and respect as we work together to keep our communities safe."
https://thepostmillennial.com/bill-blairs-office-says-liberals-will-not-target-guns-designed-for-hunting/?fbclid=IwAR1f7jrgETtTG4JO3kJnsc_Ns1rBc4sHEronl018g3pjbaQ-UFs-CgDooKQ
The ban casts an incredibly wide net. Apparently, inadvertently, it ensnares a number of civilian rifles and shotguns that are widely used by hunters and sport shooters across Canada. Knowing that you are an honourable person, it is inconceivable for us to believe your office would intentionally ban hundreds of thousands of firearms used legitimately by millions of Canadians in a safe and responsible manner. If not rescinded, this would be a devastating blow to Canadian hunters and sport shooters as well as to the Olympic shooting sports.
Acting on behalf of 43,000 B. C. Wildlife Federation members, I request that you instruct your office to remove the many civilian rifles and shotguns that are on this list, that have been inadvertently prohibited through carelessly expediting the drafting of this Order-in-Council. It is inconceivable that it serves any public safety purpose to ban standard large-calibre hunting rifles and common semi-automatic rifles. The Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30 that are banned are among the most common firearms in the country, used by hunters, sport shooters, and agriculturalists.The announcement of the new prohibitions was entitled, "a ban on assault-style weapons," although the ban casts an exceptionally wide net. To be sure, it includes firearms that resemble military firearms, which have been labelled "assault-style weapons," but it also includes an amazingly wide sample of firearms and militaria. In addition to banning common sporting firearms, the ban also includes: mortars, crew-served anti-tank weapons, missile launchers, small-bore rifles, Airsoft guns, a bizarre array of harmless contraptions also called "guns." The variety is truly mind-boggling.
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2020/05/01/prime-minister-announces-ban-assault-style-firearms
Perhaps amusingly, it appears your government may have prohibited the beloved T-shirt launcher that is featured prominently at many baseball and basketball games as well as the dreaded potato gun. Whether or not this was intentional, Canada will not be safer for it, and sports fans may not be pleased. Perhaps the ban may have also intentionally eliminated the fireworks launchers that produce such awesome displays on Canada Day, although many Canadians will be disappointed. Your office has indeed cast a wide net – and all for public safety.
It might help educate your staff if I point out that gang violence is the most prominent threat to public safety in Canada, not licensed firearms owners, whether hunters, sport shooters, or Canadians who own firearms for historical, cultural, agricultural, or as part of their military or police service. According to Statistics Canada data, almost half (47%) of firearm homicides are gang related. Lawful firearm owners are rarely involved. Just 2% of accused murderers had a valid firearms license.
Licensed gun owners are much less likely to be murderous than other Canadians. As Professor Gary Mauser reported to the Senate of Canada, licensed gun owners had a homicide rate of 0.67 per 100,000 licensed gun owners over the 11-year period (2006-2016). In contrast, the average national homicide rate (including gun owners) was 2.12 per 100,000 adults during the same period.
As I'm confident you know, hunters are law-abiding and bring value to their communities.
Over 1.3 million Canadians, in all provinces and territories, have a hunting license. You may be surprised to learn that roughly half of Canada's hunters live in larger cities. Hunting spending in Canada totaled $5.9 billion in 2018. The resulting contribution to GDP was $4.1 billion. Hunting supported 33,000 jobs and generated just under $2 billion in labour revenue.
https://www.conferenceboard.ca/research/angling-hunting-trapping-and-sport-shooting
Many Canadian families and Indigenous peoples depend upon hunting to provide food for the family table through legal harvesting, with the added benefit of getting out in the wilderness, as well as spending time with family and friends.Hunters are the largest contributors to conservation, as the money they pay for licenses goes into securing conservation lands or funding projects to manage wildlife.
The ban may also catch shotguns used in trap and skeet as well as hunting. Millions of Canadians enjoy target sports and own these types of firearms, including Olympic athletes. An estimated 1.4 million Canadian target shooters spent over $2.6 billion in 2018. This includes shotgun sports, rifle and handgun target shooting. The target sports bring value to Canada and to the communities that host the meets, including tourism and supporting small businesses, often in small towns where the revenue is sorely needed. This spending boosted GDP by $1.8 billion, supported 14,000 jobs, and generated $868 million in labour revenue (2018).
Canada has a long and proud history of competitive marksmanship. Throughout the 20th Century and into the 21st, Canadians have volunteered to help protect the free world from aggression. It is important for Canadian national sovereignty that Canadian civilians be prepared to participate in military activities in times of national need. Times like world war II, Korean War, Viet Nam, and more recently, in Afghanistan.
To sum up, we trust that once you become aware of this oversight, you will speedily move to make the appropriate corrections. The ban casts too wide a net to be targeted for public safety. It serves no good public safety purpose to deliberately alienate a law-abiding segment of our community, all while spending billions of Canadian taxpayer dollars.

Yours in Conservation, 
Mr. Bill Bosch
President
BC Wildlife Federation

Copies To:


The Right Honourable Justin Trudeau, Premier of Canada
Mr. Joël Lightbound, Louis-Hébert, MP, Parliamentary Secretary of the Minister of Public Safety & Emergency Preparedness
Mr. Rob Stewart, Deputy Minister of Public Safety Canda
Mr. Pierre Paul-Hus, MP, Charlesbourg-Haute-Saint-Charles, Standing Committee on Public Safety & National Security
Mr. Glen Motz, MP, Medicine Hat-Cardston-Warner, Standing Committee on Public Safety & National Security
Mr. Bob Zimmer, MP, Prince George-Peace River-Northern Rockies, Standing Committee on Indigenous & Northern Affairs
The Honourable John Horgan, Premier of British Columbia
The Honourable Mike Farnworth, MLA, Minister of Public Safety & Solicitor General of the Province of BC
Executive Committee & Board of Directors of the BC Wildlife Federation
Gary Mauser, Firearms Committee Chair, BC Wildlife Federation
Doug Bancroft, Recreational Sports Shooting Committee Chair, BC Wildlife Federation
Alberta Fish & Game Association
Manitoba Wildlife Federation
New Brunswick Wildlife Federation
Northwest Territories Wildlife Federation
Nova Scotia Federation of Anglers & Hunters
Nunavut Wildlife Management Board
Ontario Federation of Anglers & Hunters
Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation
Yukon Fish & Game Association
Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights
National Firearms Association
Canadian Shooting Sports Association
 
As many of you probably heard already, there was a shooting incident in Vienna that's labelled as an Islamist terror attack. 3 people were killed and 15 injured. Neighbouring Germany and Czech Republic have introduced border checks in case the shooter attempts to flee the country.

First the society's "paranoia switch" was flipped by the terror threat. Then by the murderous virus. Now it's both. It looks like the PTB have adopted the same approach as shampoo producers: 2 in 1 for maximum efficiency :nuts:

 
As many of you probably heard already, there was a shooting incident in Vienna that's labelled as an Islamist terror attack. 3 people were killed and 15 injured. Neighbouring Germany and Czech Republic have introduced border checks in case the shooter attempts to flee the country.

First the society's "paranoia switch" was flipped by the terror threat. Then by the murderous virus. Now it's both. It looks like the PTB have adopted the same approach as shampoo producers: 2 in 1 for maximum efficiency :nuts:

To All:

In my opinion, all of these are part of the plan that I have mentioned in my posts.

They want to start the "military state" that reaches Europe and the USA, and under this, we will live the closer months or years.

To start this, they need a big conflict. This conflict will be mainly with the Middle East country/countries (however not necessarily the Middle East only, I think also that Ukraine and Belarus, possible Taiwan, are also endangered).

To do this, they will generate false or real conflict between the Western and Muslim worlds. That will be adding oil to the fire, which ends in the kind of provocation / false flag attack from the "terrorists". For instance, it could be a big Western symbolic city, for instance, France, Paris.

They need that "war state" because they need to fulfill the war on Semitic people, as this was mentioned in the Cassiopaean sessions.

However, there are also things related to this. The state of war takes our rights. And also give the veil to the Cosmic behavior. Everything that will be displayed in the sky can be said that those are military activities. Also, the real pandemic, when come may be first covered as the chemical or biological weapon.

They need something that covers them. As C's said in one session, they can't show that "Heaven" gets angry on them. To all of these, I can add that well, also as Cass said, there can be not only people's bombs but also the natural bombs as comets before they have to defend themselves, so they are preparing.

The pseudo-pandemic now is preparation for this war event/events. "Virus" has to divert attention, gives pretext to introduce the trade restriction, and transport what will be new normal in the "war state". They check how people react to the reactions at the absurd commands even if they are right or wrong and check who subordinate to this and who not. They destroy those parts of the people's lives that they will not make usable or disturb their activity. Also the multitude of messages about the virus may obscure other things, that we do not see.

I repeat myself because I think that this is important for all of you, and we have a bit of time to think about that, not much, but yet, I encourage you to do this. I only connect all those things, all the information that is publicly available, and conclude upon it. Check this conclusions for yourself too.
 

Updates:

[ALERT] - An individual, wanting to attack passers-by with a machete, is entrenched in a building with a #machette in the 11th arrondissement of #Paris . The #GSO (Operational Support Group) is in intervention. (Police sources at @LPLdirect )
 
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Shooting in La Paillade: drug trafficking in Montpellier turns into turf war https://midilibre.fr/2020/11/03/fus

The shooting that took place in the middle of the day on Sunday (November 1) is an illustration of an escalating violence in recent months, in an area where rival gangs are now clashing with heavy weapons. The inhabitants can no longer take it.

Panic, dread, horror. In the opinion of several observers, the urban guerrilla scene which took place on Sunday November 1 in broad daylight on the slab of the Grand Mail is a sign that a new course has been crossed.

In the ultraviolence that has plagued the Paillade district and, above all, the daily lives of its inhabitants for months or even years. The shooting took place in broad daylight, with several grouped shooters, hooded and masked, equipped with large-caliber automatic weapons, emptying their magazines and acting ... in full re-containment.

Stray bullets landed in a neighborhood children's room. The scene even unfolded when a few dozen yards away was a wild flea market. Thus creating a general panic, while the attacks were still in everyone's mind.

"You need a real sector police station"

"We must reinstall the police presence in Mosson", insists Yann Bastière, Montpellier police officer and representative of the SGP Police Unit union. Like Alliance, he called for reinforcements in Montpellier, and La Mosson in particular, "to dissuade" criminals.

"We see that the perpetrators of these shots can come on a Sunday at 1 pm, when the police station is closed, spray the area and leave gently," he said. This summer, SGP Police Unit wrote to the mayor but also to the deputies to mention a reinforcement of about thirty personnel, the 20 obtained thanks to the QRR having been largely absorbed by the reorganizations and the departures.

"The Mosson police station is an empty shell, we suggested to the mayor to ask for a real sector police station".
Turf war

Since New Year's Eve, the area whose residents like to talk about a city (25,000) have seen a staggering number of shootings. Seven in all, killing one, Ahmed A. 21, on February 25, 2020, was killed by a heavy gun flurry and many injured. Still in the same area.

Classified as Republican Reconquest Quarter (QRR) in 2018 as part of the daily security police (PSQ). Where about twenty personnel were assigned as reinforcements. Here, a turf war for the juicy drug market is played out between neighborhood bosses, between neighborhoods, between communities and sometimes with the help of teams from outside Montpellier. Even Marseillais.

The teams are assembled and disassembled according to the confusion, a debt, an ultimatum and it can burst

"There is a holding of the territory with variable geometry. The teams are assembled and dismantled according to the confusion, a debt, an ultimatum and it can burst. The confinement could reshuffle the cards", one confides a source policewoman. This war also affected other sectors of the city, such as the city of Gély or the city of Saint-Martin. Elias, another 21-year-old, was killed there on June 22, 2020. Weapons of war and drugs are regularly seized.

Kalashnikov fire was heard near the Grand Mall on December 31. The gunman, filmed there again at the foot of the tower, had sown panic and traumatized families in the front row. Two days later, rebelote. A week later, a vast security operation was organized, around forty police officers mobilized.

But the battle for which deal points to keep is not about to end. After Ahmed and Elias died, their parents organized a white march through the Paillade in August. The crowd had gathered for a long time on the slab of the Grand Mail which has already seen too many deaths.

At least three shooters wanted

Who are the people targeted by the shooters this Sunday, November 1? Hard to say at this point. Investigators from the Montpellier SRPJ heard on Monday the victim, a young man injured three times in one foot and one leg. He was taken to the CHU by friends. His vital prognosis was not engaged. She is known for "minor" delinquency according to our sources.

Investigators will need to determine his degree of involvement in this case. Numerous cartridge cases were found at the scene. "Several locations of firing starts" were noted according to the public prosecutor, Fabrice Belargent, "with the presence of three calibers: 9 mm, 5'56 and 11'45". In the aftermath of the events, the shooters were still wanted.



 
Four individuals were rushed to the hospital with serious injuries resulting from a shooting in the German capital, according to Berlin’s police and fire services. Security forces are currently searching for suspects.

The incident occurred in Berlin’s Kreuzberg district in the early hours of Saturday. A police spokesman confirmed that there had been a shooting involving several people but did not provide more details.

In a message posted to Twitter, the city’s fire department said that three people had been hospitalized with serious injuries. Two of the victims were found at the crime scene while the third person was pulled from a nearby canal with an injury to his leg, Berliner Zeitung reported. Police later confirmed that a fourth person had been hurt in the incident.

Local media, citing eyewitness accounts, said that heavily armed security personnel had been deployed to the scene to search for those involved in the shooting. A police helicopter was also used in the operation.

Authorities are still trying to determine the circumstances that led to the shooting.


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