Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?

Here's a thought exercise: if we put these anomalous drones and the secrecy around them in the context of the 'great power geopolitical conflict' that's been ongoing for some time, AND in the context of the recent Russian use of Oreshnik, and Putin's declaration that now "nukes are no longer necessary"....what if this is some kind of message to Russia?
I'm catching up with the thread, so pardon me if this was raised, but I fail to see the message here, or maybe I'm not smart enough. In this context, the message to Russians would be: "look at TikTok, how we can terrorize your population and infiltrate your bases!". If they'd tested this technology in Ukraine to play with Russian warship radars, that'd be something worth the Oreshnik test or even Chinese hypersonic drone presentations. I get that this might be a show for Russian intel rather than Western population, but assuming that these EMF anomalies are real, their cloaking technology isn't the best to show either.
 
I couldn't find the original, but it's not quite like "missing time", though, and more like an electrical glitch in the car. Unless some important details are missing. Hard to tell. Maybe the clock just malfunctioned, maybe more.

These "glitches" are always tricky... The report is that some family reported the time changing in their car's clock. Well, okay.

First, is that what really happened? Did the family say, "the clock in our car was screwed up" and then the reporter said, "changed time", or not?

And if the time did change, what kind of clock was it? A dedicated clock, or part of a modern car's touchscreen, which is literally an LCD screen attached to a computer? In the modern case, changing that clock's time is really weird because in order for that to happen, you'd need to mess with an entire computerized system that does many different things.

Then again, if part of the display went wonky with zigzag lines or something and therefore the time couldn't be read, that might be EM interference of some kind.

So, if it really was a readable, incorrect time displayed in a modern car's system, to me that says more high strangeness than simple EM effects. But it's really impossible to know for sure without more details.

The one that caught my attention the most is this one:


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Someone replied saying the same had happened to them.

That is a bit weird, isn't it? It's not a normal glitch like the wi-fi stopping and things like that. Does anyone know a "normal" explanation for it? I don't think people would be lying about it.
This one is utterly nuts to me... The computer is sitting there doing 1 million things, one of which is getting a value from a server (over WiFi? Ethernet?) and updating that part of the display that shows the weather/temp. I have NO IDEA how simple EM waves or interference could cause such a specific "glitch".

I mean, sure, if you flip a bit in the wrong place in the puter, you get an usually large number like 24,856 degrees F. But what are the chances that of all the bits, that EXACT one was flipped, resulting in a crazy temperature in EXACTLY that way? Near zero I think, all things considered. Usually you get a crash or smaller error that is corrected and/or that you don't even notice. Plus, that same system is constantly bombarded by all sorts of external signals in our modern world, and nothing happens usually. So whatever this alleged 'signal' was, it was unusual to have such an effect (assuming that's what happened).

Also, the parking lot full of cars where their hazard lights start flashing... Not easy to do. You can't really just say, "Oh yeah, that was the effect of some radio waves". You're probably talking about many different makes/models of cars with different systems that would each react differently to whatever stimulus created the weird response. If you could make the cars think they were in an accident (a big boom, shockwave, or whatever), then maybe they'd turn on their blinkers and call 911 or whatever... but when they're all turned off sitting in a parking lot?? Much less likely.

I'm not even sure anyone has ever adequately explained how UFOs can stall a car engine, which is kind of the 'classic' woowoo effect!

Then again, we also have to consider that the parking lot thing was some hacker horsing around and triggering certain makes/models, and then someone took that earlier video and said, "it's drones!" to get views - something along those lines. Again, we'd really need more details to say anything intelligent.

So what I usually do is try to consider all these little details, and then decide if it makes sense. And from what I know, many of these 'glitches' are not easily explainable in 3d terms. Not impossible, but not probable, I think.

Probably many are explainable in terms of misreporting, hysteria, and general glitches due to poor software upgrades and other stuff, but certainly not all. And certainly when a large number of people report the same effects, then I go, "Okay, that's gotta be woowoo..."

Aaand sometimes I'm totally wrong! :whistle:

And finally, assuming the "thinning of the veil", the glitches may not even be directly related to the drones! :nuts:

Whatever the case, does this count as thrilling??
 
It seems to me that this is NOT a military op or a search for dirty nukes. It looks like it is more of something that one of the articles calls a 'show of impunity' directed at the US military.

Which could be:
The Russians (or Chinese) doing some epic trolling
Preparations for an alien disclosure that caught many unaware.
Or, a SUPER secret faction within the US harassing its own military. But, for what reason?

I had similar thoughts. What if the secret government knows that a faction connected to the US military has some plans they don't like, such as doing something stupid in Ukraine before Trump's inauguration? Maybe it is a demonstration of the ability to ruin their plans to discourage them from trying?

I think these quotes can also be related to the discussion:

A: Assumptions. Awareness needs to be increased. And, we must tell you that "secret world government" technologies are approximately 150 years in advance of anything that you have access to.

(Pierre) What destroyed the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket when it was about to launch several weeks ago?

(Joe) Yeah, it's about to launch, and these 2 black dots zoom by the camera just before the rocket explodes on the launch pad. And Elon Musk was "confused" about it. One of the things they're looking into is that there's a competitor rocket launching company about a mile away that has a direct line of sight to the rocket.

A: Sabotage.

Q: (Joe) By a competitor. So what was this little black thing that flew by at literally 2000 miles per hour?

A: Drone type
 
There is this thread on Facebook where some people reported strange glitches:

The one that caught my attention the most is this one:


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Someone replied saying the same had happened to them.

That is a bit weird, isn't it? It's not a normal glitch like the wi-fi stopping and things like that. Does anyone know a "normal" explanation for it? I don't think people would be lying about it.

This one is utterly nuts to me... The computer is sitting there doing 1 million things, one of which is getting a value from a server (over WiFi? Ethernet?) and updating that part of the display that shows the weather/temp. I have NO IDEA how simple EM waves or interference could cause such a specific "glitch".

Took me a while to find (I was searching for ways to alter the weather widgets temperature), but there is this (apparently ChatGPT generated) post from Dec 5th
Imagine opening your Windows 11 weather widget expecting to find the forecast for the week, but instead, you're greeted with a reading so astronomically high that it promises to melt not just snow, but every last molecule of the Earth's surface! Well, that was the surreal "scorching" reality for some Windows users when a peculiar bug turned the humble weather app into an apocalyptic harbinger. Hold on to your sunscreen—Microsoft's mega-glitch reported surface temperatures of over 30,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
Let's unravel this "fiery" mishap, why it happened, and why it’s both hilarious and a little concerning.

It’s safe to say that when your weather app shows a thermometer laughing in the face of physical laws, something is very broken. This mysterious bug, as discovered by tech enthusiasts and Redditors, affected the Windows 11 weather widget and other Microsoft-powered weather displays, pushing temperature readings into absurdity—peaking at 30,014 degrees Fahrenheit. For perspective, the surface of the Sun itself averages "only" around 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Earth's weather report managed to outshine a literal star. Bravo, widget. Bravo.
Reports of this anomaly appeared across several devices, with users like Redditors Guilty_Parking and darkfae83 showcasing their blisteringly sarcastic forecasts. Less interested in whether they needed an umbrella or sunglasses, these users were now wondering whether their homes could withstand Armageddon-level heat.
You could chalk this bug up to a programming mishap, but it sure makes for eye-catching screenshots. One could argue that perhaps the widget was channeling inspiration from Doom Eternal, or maybe it was an extreme warning to take Microsoft's commitment to combating climate change seriously. Others thought it may just be a hidden feature—a secret homage to the hellfire horrors of bad holiday travel. Either way, the reality is far less exciting—but we'll get to the tech behind it shortly.

You’d think that an operation as seemingly simple as displaying the weather wouldn’t suffer from the sort of catastrophic failure that implies planetary incineration. Still, even "everyday" bugs like these need a closer look:
  1. Data Mismanagement & Overflow Issues:
    • Weather information in the widget is obviously supplied via an API from Microsoft's weather servers. It’s entirely likely that this issue stems from either corrupted or missing data points in the feed—forcing nonsensical figures to populate instead.
    • This might also be related to an integer overflow, where the system's numbers go beyond what the program can logically process, resulting in astronomical values being displayed.
    []Miscalculations in Metric Conversion:
    • Given the global reach of Microsoft's services, temperature data often needs to jump between Celsius and Fahrenheit. A bug in the conversion process—where a negative value flips—or a misplaced zero, may have caused this bug. Just one misaligned snippet of calculation code could have escalated temps to unholy levels.
    [
    ]Server Issues or Corruption:
    • As multiple users reported identical 30,000°F readings, one has to wonder if there was a hiccup in Microsoft’s main data repository for weather metrics. The bug could have originated there, propagating incorrect values to widgets worldwide.
  2. Testing Oversight or Debugging Fluke:
    • Let’s not forget human error. This could have been a quirky oversight from developers running stress tests or simulating high-temperature scenarios—but failing to catch it before deployment.

Sure, it’s easy to dismiss a 30,000°F temperature reading as a comedic mishap rather than a glaring issue, but minor bugs like these hint at deeper vulnerabilities in software pipelines—and that isn’t just a concern for tech purists.
Weather data is something people rely on daily, from planning commutes to airline operations. A misstep like this, however small, erodes trust—even if it’s clearly ridiculous. If Microsoft software, often at the backbone of professional life globally, can’t display something as simple as the local temperature accurately, what else could slip through the cracks?
Such a widespread issue indicates that automated testing during development either missed this anomaly or wasn’t robust enough to simulate edge cases (like astronomical temperatures!). This kind of oversight, although trivial in context here, highlights the importance of stringent QA processes to assure reliability.
Weather widgets typically operate via cloud APIs for real-time updates, and if the bug originated upstream with Microsoft's servers, it also raises questions about how data anomalies might propagate at scale to millions of devices. This brings to light the importance of data validation and redundancy in cloud services designed to serve critical functions.

Despite the serious undertone of system reliability, let’s not downplay the sheer absurdity of this incident. From memes likening the readings to Mordor's Great Furnace to users suggesting Microsoft switch from Azure to something more fireproof, the internet’s collective humor has once again turned a software glitch into lighthearted gold.
"Perhaps this is AI subtly sending us a message… Or maybe HAL from 2001: A Space Odyssey is now managing the weather," joked one forum commenter. There’s also the possibility that Microsoft is simply getting us ready for their upcoming Minecraft: Volcano Edition announcement. Who knows?
And for the techies out there, this is also a reminder of the imperfection of programming. Bugs like this reflect the delicate dance between server-side algorithms, hardware behavior, and clean coding practices. It’s a reminder that no matter how "intuitive" modern systems appear to the end user, behind the curtain lies a world where one misplaced value can send literal waves of… infernos.

Though there’s no news yet of Microsoft officially patching the bug, here’s how companies like Microsoft usually handle such cases:
  1. Immediate Data Cleanup: The erroneous temperature values need urgent correction at the source to ensure no more widgets spiral into villainous forecasts.
  2. Enhanced QA for APIs: A more rigorous database testing pipeline—employing random stress testing—is the key to preventing buggy outputs for critical consumer APIs like weather and location data.
  3. Better Error Logging for End Users: If the widget doesn’t have accurate data due to upstream issues, it should fail gracefully—e.g., offering a “data unavailable” message rather than… declaring World’s End!

At the end of the day, the malfunction speaks volumes about the quirky world of software bugs. While it’s far from apocalyptic, it does serve as a poignant reminder that even the most ubiquitous applications—tools we often take for granted—can (and will) malfunction, sometimes spectacularly. This "meltdown moment" may not warm your hands on a frosty winter day, but it’s been a healthy reminder that in tech, expect the unexpected—even if that means temperatures that could toast marshmallows… from Mars.
For now, let’s just hope Microsoft patches this quickly. And hey, maybe upgrade your PC's cooling system, just in case your weather widget knows something you don’t!

Redit sources of people reporting the windows weather widget issue:
 
Took me a while to find (I was searching for ways to alter the weather widgets temperature), but there is this (apparently ChatGPT generated) post from Dec 5th

Well, we can scratch that one off the list, then! BO-RING! 🤭
 
Can't help but wonder about the "swarm" aspect of the drones. One naturally associates insects with swarming (locust, flies, bees, ants - and let's not forget the biblical association also) and they can actually kill large animals:
Well... I couldn't help but think about the locusts in the Book of Revelation, probably just pattern recognition run amok... but here's the reference:

Revelation 9:1-11 The Message (MSG)​


The fifth Angel trumpeted. I saw a Star plummet from Heaven to earth. The Star was handed a key to the Well of the Abyss. He unlocked the Well of the Abyss—smoke poured out of the Well, billows and billows of smoke, sun and air in blackout from smoke pouring out of the Well. Then out of the smoke crawled locusts with the venom of scorpions. They were given their orders: “Don’t hurt the grass, don’t hurt anything green, don’t hurt a single tree—only men and women, and then only those who lack the seal of God on their foreheads.” They were ordered to torture but not kill, torture them for five months, the pain like a scorpion sting. When this happens, people are going to prefer death to torture, look for ways to kill themselves. But they won’t find a way—death will have gone into hiding. The locusts looked like horses ready for war. They had gold crowns, human faces, women’s hair, the teeth of lions, and iron breastplates. The sound of their wings was the sound of horse-drawn chariots charging into battle. Their tails were equipped with stings, like scorpion tails. With those tails they were ordered to torture the human race for five months. They had a king over them, the Angel of the Abyss. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, in Greek, Apollyon—“Destroyer.”
 
Then again, if part of the display went wonky with zigzag lines or something and therefore the time couldn't be read, that might be EM interference of some kind.

So, if it really was a readable, incorrect time displayed in a modern car's system, to me that says more high strangeness than simple EM effects. But it's really impossible to know for sure without more details.
My line of thinking is also on similar lines.

This reminds me a article that I read years ago. Due to some rare cosmic rays, one single silicon chip gate ( that decide 1, 0 ) did not function as it intended to be that resulted in very large value in some measurements. How that reputable research institute came to a conclusion from one ridiculously abnormal value in their dataset to cosmic rays must have detailed analysis and they must have checked every thing before going into crazy route of relating it to rare cosmic rays. I don't remember the exact article location. probably on SOTT.

24856 is 11000011110000. Single bit off can create all sorts of chaos as we all know and depends on long list of specific technology related factors. All this 100 year old silicon technology built based on how silicon base stores information ( 1's and 0's). What if these frequencies are screwing up on that baseline of our silicon technology? Prospect of it is scary.

We know this thread is becoming crazier and crazier (by every post) because of so many unknowns. If we speculate Veils (which themselves are frequency fences) and our technology is built, tested and used on our side of frequency fence range (whatever that means), any breach (or temporary mergers) can create all sorts unexpected behavior on our technology.

It still doesn't mean it has to be aliens. These 3D technology using certain "novel" frequency that is screwing up the normal functions, and these developers didn't thoroughly tested creating uncontrollable "special effects". we can certify them as "Crazy".

Latest hypothesis for motive l read, happens to be Israel (False Flag in Chief) to blackmail Trump with a smuggled nuclear weapon. If it is simple missing nuclear medical lab material (which they say not that harmful), there is no need for orbs to closely monitor. Seems to me as a plausible scenario.
 
Could it be Israel?

Following your line of thinking, best guess to the reason (in the case of it being Israel and/or a super secret faction, or something similar) is simply to say "We're in charge, not Trump".
Just like UFO's can operate with impunity, so can these drones.
Maybe they got the idea from the historic UFO flaps over military bases.

It's a possibility. I would put that one under 'SUPER secret faction (MOSSAD) within the US harassing its own military.' But the fact that this started almost a year before Trump was (surprisingly) elected and has occurred in Germany and the UK as well, makes it a little less likely to do with Trump, in my book.

So maybe it's also a preparation for underground 'ancient space brothers' too. Perhaps the military get introduced to them first?

May be! A show of 'first contact'?
 
I think these quotes can also be related to the discussion:

Add to this a quote about the super fast drone that was captured on a video during Trump assassination attempt. It looked like a ufo. There were actually two of them.

(Joe) There was at least one little UFO-type thing moving very fast. We don't know if there were one or two. There was definitely one, one that was caught clearly, maybe a number of seconds before Crooks fired the shots. It flew over the building or that general area, and it had a little kind of antenna on the back of it. You could freeze frame it to see it. And then there were other camera angles that saw another further away, with a more ball-like structure, though it could be the same one. But anyway, it was some kind of an anomalous, unidentified aerial vehicle in the air at the time of the shooting. What was... who owned that?

A: Drones.

Q: (Joe) And these are 3D drones run by Intel types?

A: Yes.

Q:
(Joe) And was it really moving at the speed it seemed to have been? Was it moving at 2000 miles an hour or something like that?

(L) No, it wasn't, because it was probably closer than you imagine.

(Joe) Maybe, but it was moving extremely fast.

(Niall) Yes.

(Joe) Way faster than any drone you can buy, even the top end, the best of them. And what was this purpose? Was it there to just monitor? Did it have any purpose other than monitoring the situation?

A: Mind control signals.

Q: (Joe) On Crooks?

A: Yes.

And so we know that these "Intel types" have "ufo like" capabilities. It means that they can move around undetected, or almost undetected. But the drones in NJ and other locations are very visible. Not all of them are noisy, and not all of them are fast. But most of them are very visible and noticeable.

And in comparison to the "super fast ufo like drone", these ones don't look that much advanced if this is really a 3D tech and not a ufo disguised in a cosmic trickster manner.

So it leads even to more questions. If these drones are "human made", do they belong to the same "team" as the ones who have the "super fast ufo like drone"? If it's the same team, then it seems that they don't use their "baddest" weapons in this "show of impunity".

Maybe the "show" aspect is the key here. Maybe it's not about force per se, but power, influence. Control of the narrative. Either showing who has the control, showing the other party that they are cornered, or forcing the narrative in the certain direction.

Maybe it is similar (from a point of view of "influence" and "controlling the narrative") to the situation that was described here in relation to Havana Syndrome:

The question is, who is behind the attacks on these agents? Why do the US intelligence agencies in the White House not want to participate in the blaming Russia game?

A: CIA. Confusion is apparent. Smoke screen.

Q: (L) Okay, so they don't want to blame Russia, because they don't want Russia to seem to have that kind of technology. Is that part of the answer?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And certainly, they're not going to take the blame themselves because they don't want Russia or the public to know that they have that kind of technology. Is that it?

A: Yes. Note the presence of a US base in Cuba.

Q: (L) Guantanamo.
 
It's a possibility. I would put that one under 'SUPER secret faction (MOSSAD) within the US harassing its own military.' But the fact that this started almost a year before Trump was (surprisingly) elected and has occurred in Germany and the UK as well, makes it a little less likely to do with Trump, in my book.



May be! A show of 'first contact'?
one Israely general was barging that trump will introduce aliens about a year ago.

one thing is sure they will be main benefactors of this and other stories to come
 
But, that doesn't explain why this anomaly suddenly disappearing when the "drones" leave? Unless, there is some super sophisticated coordination going on to create the glitch.
Ok, so it seems several people got this glitch based on what was posted on reddit. We can't easily know what part of the US/world these people are in. So, lets assume that (based on probability) they are not all from NJ.
This points to the more obvious cause of the glitch - as server/API error.

You mention sophisticated coordination going on. Have you considered that it was pure random chance? I know - the brain doesn't like that.
There is a perfect example of this in the book What Makes Your Brain Happy And Why You Should Do The Opposite.
It Must Mean Something, Right?
Storytelling is powerful medicine for the mind. One of the reasons stories appeal
to us (in books, on TV, or otherwise) is that they link together shards of meaning
that eventually yield even greater meaning. In other words, stories make sense of
the world. Making sense of the world makes our brains happy. But some of the
stories we hear lack an adequate wrap-up. Here's a true story that illustrates the
point.
A few years ago I was working on a public health campaign in Birmingham,
Alabama, and heard some news that put a tragically capital R in Random. A
woman driving downtown stopped at an intersection and waited for the light to
change. What she didn't know is that she had stopped her car directly over a
water main manhole cover. What she also didn't know, and could not have
known, is that the city was experiencing a massive pressure surge in the water
main, which was building in intensity as she approached the intersection.
In the handful of minutes that she waited for a green light, the pressure surge
reached the part of the water main where her car had stopped, and—having hit
the weakest part of the pipeline—erupted as a geyser of scorching hot steam
through the manhole. She was steamed to death in her car like a lobster in a pot
of boiling water.
It's difficult to imagine the odds of such an exceptionally random event, but I
did some rough figuring and came up with about 1 in 500,000
(taking into
account the average number of drivers in downtown Birmingham, the number of
manholes, and the chance of that sort of water-pipeline problem happening; I
later learned that it's called a “water hammer”). I'm sure my figures are far from
perfect, but whatever the actual number is, there's no question the chances of
dying that way are remote. And yet, on one idle afternoon when everything
seemed just as normal as any other day, it happened. Upon hearing a story like
this, we can actually “feel” how our brain wants to string together the chance
events leading up to the outcome in an effort to make sense of the tragedy. But
even with a physical explanation as to why it happened (pressure surge), the
story lacks closure at the level of Why (capital W) it occurred.
The reason this open-endedness is hard to accept is because it reinforces the
sense that random tragedies can happen to anyone, including us—and that is
mighty threatening to a threat-sensitive brain
. Said another way, the lack of a
Why underscores the power of randomness in our lives. We crave a reason.

Hence the oft-quoted statement, “Everything happens for a reason.” What is the
reason? We don't know, but asserting that there must be one acts as a surrogate
for closure. It also provides us with something absolutely necessary for a reason
to exist: agency. An “agent” in psychological literature is a person or thing
responsible for causing something to happen. We search for agents all the time—
personal and impersonal—and we select words that imply agency even when we
know it doesn't exist. For example, a professor is attempting to give a
presentation to his class using a computer and projector. The projector isn't
working, and after several attempts to fix it he says, “It seems this projector is
determined to wreck my class.” He knows, as does everyone in the room, that
the projector is not an action-causing agent, but his words betray the brain's
desire to assign agency no matter the physical facts. We blame our car for not
starting, software for not saving documents, plants for not growing, and on and
on. The philosopher Daniel Dennett calls this the intentional stance: we refer to
objects both animate and inanimate as if they have minds as a shortcut to
figuring out what is really going on.

Again, we can find a likely evolutionary underpinning for this tendency of a
happy brain—namely that identifying what is causing an action could save our
lives. Picture one of our ancestors gathering food in the thick of the forest.
Suddenly he hears a rustling in a nearby tree. Is it the wind, a harmless bird, or a
massive man-eating cat? Decoding the clues quickly and finding the actual cause
could be the difference between returning to the family with dinner or becoming
dinner. Leaving the forest, we can also see how this tendency would evolve for
deciphering the intentions of others. The human animal is the most formidable
on the planet not only against other species but also against other humans. Not
correctly identifying another's real intentions could very well be the last mistake
a person makes
 
One thing we might be able to say is: If Russia, China (or another 3D player) is behind it, or maybe some 4D involvement, the likelihood wood be good that the more or less official stands of the US “government“ would be: “There is nothing to see here folks and there is no threat and no indication that adversaries are involved.“

And as far as I can see that seems to be pretty much the official stands? Which doesn’t necessarily mean though that that is actually what is going on.
That would be the reaction, just as it has been towards UFOS- if these are the products of a foreign adversary and they can’t do anything about it, they don’t want to admit it because it will make them look weak. So just lie and say they are not a threat, go on about your business. Until someone gets hurt, even if by accident, which is what it will take to really get any results.
 
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