Mother of all gushers - BP Oil Disaster in Gulf of Mexico

Shijing said:
The only problematic thing about this premise is that, if it is true that oil is abiotic and in no short supply (despite what is described otherwise in the mainstream media)

I agree. A lot of information out there about the peak oil. Nonetheless I'm now convinced this problem no longer exists, at least not in the defined as "expected years to take effect" (2015).

Shijing said:
jordifs said:
I expect this year to validate someting and even keep for my self a gadget, an object I can show.
Can you clarify? Do you mean that you would get this from your friend?

One gadget is for the car. It can be installed in 15 minutes and removed in 5. It is prefered and old car engine designed to work with Gasoline (diesel do not work well). Also prefered without electronics. It can make the engine work with water (and increase power efficency). The gadget raw pieces can be collected for 180 euros (final price). I find this single "thing" to be pretty convincing. Nonetheless it is something I do not really wish to have, just to see it working. Then I prefer to get rid of it, at least before problems arise.
 
Didn't anyone notice the 'Sponsored by Shell' logo right side at NG's article? The plot sickens...

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jordifs said:
Nonetheless I'm now convinced this problem no longer exists,

It's not that it 'no longer exists' - it is that it never existed. Oil is plentiful - the only reason the 'peak oil' myth was propagated was to help keep the price of oil criminally high. Granted, oil suppliers might make it 'scarce', but oil itself is not.
 
treesparrow said:
This has happened at the worst possible moment for most coastal birds - right in the middle of the breeding season. :(

Ok.. I gotta ask...is this making anyone else alternate between bawling like a baby and wanting to break something? I can't look at these pictures without getting all girlie. I can't even go help scoop birds until we answer Duke's Motion and get a hearing date :curse:
 
For more info on abiotic oil and the discussion about how oil became known as a fossil fuel, author Fletcher Prouty talked about it in one of his interviews - http://www.blackopradio.com/video/origin_of_oil.wmv
 
I'll relate how I first found out about this abiotic oil idea. I was with some born-again Christians, in 2002 I believe, who would not get out of the car to look at the gigantic dinosaur prints on the hills West of Colorado Springs. They begrudgingly stopped the car to let me look. When I got back in, they said the devil put those footprints there so as to mislead us. Everyone knows the Earth is not millions of years old, it's thousands of years old like the Bible says...

"Oh?" I might have said. [paraphrasing]: Oh yes we saw it on Educational TV (a channel) that the core of the Earth is made of oil, and that the liberals want you to believe in dinosaurs...

I dismissed it all, and could not believe that ETV was so irresponsible as to air such rubbish. The core of the Earth solid oil? That's a tall claim. Well, the added theme of liberals and the devil removed, I began to have doubts in 2005 when I saw all those papers about the Russians deep drilling beneath the basalt layers. I always find it interesting the opportunists that pop up to spin the right.
 
Potamus said:
I'll relate how I first found out about this abiotic oil idea. I was with some born-again Christians, in 2002 I believe, who would not get out of the car to look at the gigantic dinosaur prints on the hills West of Colorado Springs. They begrudgingly stopped the car to let me look. When I got back in, they said the devil put those footprints there so as to mislead us. Everyone knows the Earth is not millions of years old, it's thousands of years old like the Bible says...

sorry for the slight off topic but I couldn't resist:

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if we start to realise that many of our beliefs about the world are founded on similarly robust arguments as the one in the picture, it opens up a whole new world of possibility ;)
 
"Scientists find giant oil plumes under Gulf"

"One is about 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick"

From the NYTimes via MSNBC:
"NEW YORK - Scientists are finding enormous oil plumes in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, including one as large as 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick. The discovery is fresh evidence that the leak from the broken undersea well could be substantially worse than estimates that the government and BP have given."

Read the rest at:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37171468/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/
 
Did anyone catch "Freemason Island"? Maybe it's nothing, don't know, but sure is fishy. What I don't understand is why they didn't consider concurrent measures taken to mitigate the spill released, IN ADDITION to attempting to stop the flow. Don't know how that would be accomplished but did they do any type of estimates or trajectories of where the flow would seep towards? Could some type of containment or barrier have been possible (regardless of $ feasible) or even "moving" at least some wildlife prior?

and will this become a trend? if it is unexpected internal changes of the earth that caused this (alongside the shortcuts taken for maximizing profit) then as more earth changes occur will lessons be learned or repeat mistakes. of course 'by design' is always in mind and if by design, does "Freemason Island" mean anything.

Alright, gotta look it up now!

edit: interesting . . . and upsetting.

_http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2006/08/02/chandeleur_islands_said_not_rebuilding/

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandeleur_Islands


The chain or ecosystem itself has been hit repeatedly going back to Dennis and Katrina, Hurricane Georges in 1998 and Camille in 1969. So based on what we know or at least suspect today about "disaster management" being about the creation of a disaster as much so if not more than the management of its effects, why? Cui bono? Oh yes, those at "the top".

_http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=810


These images provide good shots of the deteriorating inhabitable mass.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=5910

Still do not know why or when it is called "Freemason Island" . . . .
 
Well, if somebody has already posted the "good ol' boys" solution to cleaning up this oil spill, or ANY oil spill for that matter, I must admit that I've missed it. To wit: in the linked video, a couple of farmers seem to have come up with what seems to be a pretty effective clean-up method. I guess the main question is whether or not the PTB really want to clean it up or not. Like many here have stated, it not unlikely that there are more devious reasons for having "allowed" the spill in the first place.

In a 5 or 6 minute demonstration, these farmers show how using plain ol' hay and dried bermuda grass do what at least to the untrained eye (mine) appears to be a pretty quick and effective oil clean up. I mean, its at least worth a shot....

_http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/
 
ok, now reading about the global warming-gulf stream break down-ice age scenario an illuminating ( ;)) idea shot through my mind: the unprecedented amounts of oil being spilled into the gulf of mexico could potentially have the power to slow down or even stop the gulf stream right? so it's possible that it was orchestrated - the oil spill i mean. to either speed up the inevitable human carnage once the ice age hits or to worsen it.
then i read on kerry cassidy's (project camelot) that she had just a similar idea.
maybe a good question for the next C session ...
 
Danny said:
What about the eshcatological implications of this ????????? Or am I just plain paranoid-crazy?

I, like many, am very concerned about the ramifications of this oil spill, is there a limit to what the earth can take from us?

I apologize if this is noise but I am nevertheless reminded of this:

Rev. 16:3 said:
The second angel poured his bowl into the sea. It became like the blood of a dead body, and every living thing in the sea died.
 
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