Mother of all gushers - BP Oil Disaster in Gulf of Mexico

Well, one possible silver lining is that this "accident" might cause sufficient alarm in Canada that plans for similar drilling might be reconsidered.

Imagine all the difficulties currently being experience and add tremendously colder temperatures and 24 hours daily darkness for half the year.

The concept was scary over a month ago and simply terrifying now, in light of the current nightmare.

I also wondered if this event would cause a surge in global human compassion, similar to how September 11 and the Tsunami did.
An increase in human compassion could very well be a beneficial (to humanity) result that the overly confidant PTB hadn't anticipated.

Gonzo
 
In reading through these posts and watching the video about the comparisons to the 1979 incident, it occurred to me that in the early 80's, shortly after I had moved to the Dallas area, my family took a trip to South Padre with my two teenage kids. We did NOT enjoy the beach (even after all the hype about Padre) because the beach was OILY and apparently that was from the '79 OOPS. I continue to have a bit of trouble integrating this current disaster and it reminds me of the work I have to do to remain balanced in any and all situations.

I have ordered the Eiriu Eolas (sp?) breathing and am looking forward to the experience, having long recommended "conscious breathing" to many, many clients.
 
Here's a bit of information that was given to me. Keep in mind it is third hand. My friend works in the postal service. A coworker of hers was friends with someone in FEMA. This FEMA person shared with her coworker that he was ordered to move away from St. Petersburgh. This is a bit curious considering the mentioned FEMA plan to evacuate tampa bay.

Kris
 
I think they're stalling until they can get the "relief wells" drilled and can continue to pump out all the oil they want. Think about it. If they got the leaks sealed off, there would be no reason to continue drilling the "relief wells" and they would have to abandon all that oil.
 
_http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/may2010/gulf-m28.shtml

Top kill” has yet to stop Gulf oil flow
Massive spill nation’s worst, study confirms
By Tom Eley
28 May 2010

On Thursday afternoon, BP admitted that the success of its latest attempt to stem the flow of oil from the ocean floor, the so-called “top kill,” was in doubt. The effort to blast thousands of gallons of heavy mud directly into the Deepwater Horizon rig’s failed blowout preventer one mile beneath the water’s surface was suspended early Thursday morning so that BP could analyze data, company spokesmen said.

BP said a second attempt would be launched Thursday evening, and indicated that it might include golf balls, pieces of rubber and other objects—a so-called “junk shot.” It may take until the weekend to learn whether or not the top kill has stopped or even restricted the oil gush, the company said.

BP had not revealed to the media, or even the US government, that it had suspended the operation early Thursday, shortly after midnight. On Thursday morning an oblivious Thad Allen, commander of the US Coast Guard, claimed that the top kill had been a success and that no more oil was being emitted. That afternoon he said he thought BP was still pumping mud into the blowout preventer.

Allen’s early comments led to jubilant headlines in the US media, but within hours BP was urging caution before admitting in an evening press conference that the result of the effort was, at best, unclear. “What we do know is that we have not yet stopped the flow,” said BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles. “I probably should apologize to folks that we haven’t been giving more data on that,” he said when he was asked why BP did not explain earlier that it had suspended the top kill. “It was nothing more than we are so focused on the operation itself.”

Earlier efforts to stop the spill using unmanned submarines, a four-story containment dome, and a tube to siphon off oil have also failed.

Meanwhile, the enormous scale of the disaster has come into sharper focus. New studies authored by the US Geological Survey (USGS) reveal that the spill in the Gulf of Mexico is many times worse than the estimate originally advanced by the Obama administration and BP. It is now certain to be the worst spill in US history and one of the worst ecological catastrophes in world history.

The USGS estimates the leakage rate falls in a range of between 500,000 and 1 million gallons per day. This would mean that somewhere between 17 million and 36 million gallons have been spilled, far more than the 11 million gallons of heavy crude lost by the Exxon Valdez in Alaska’s Prince William Sound.

Yet the actual magnitude of the spill may be far higher. For weeks after the April 20 explosion on the Deepwater Horizon, which took the lives of 11 workers, the Obama administration joined hands with BP and the Coast Guard in pushing a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) estimate of 5,000 barrels, or 210,000 gallons, per day. Steady criticism from scientists and mounting physical evidence finally forced the survey from the USGS, which operates within the Department of the Interior.

Steven Wereley, a professor of mechanical engineering at Purdue University, has come out with a far higher estimate. Analyzing only two of three leaks using computer particle analysis, Wereley told the House Energy Committee on May 19 that his best estimate was that the rate of the spill was 4.2 million gallons per day. If so, the spill has emitted upwards of 150 million gallons into the Gulf of Mexico.

BP has refused to allow scientists to measure the quantity of oil emitted below the water’s surface, repeatedly claiming that it was impossible to know how much oil was spilling and that “it’s not relevant to the response effort.”

Scientists reject both claims. “If we don’t know the total amount we are never really going to know where it all went,” points out earth science professor David Valentine of the University of California. According to Valentine, surface observations cannot be accurate for underwater spills, “especially when you have oil traveling such great distances from the sea floor to the sea surfaces and when you have dispersants and other things that are acting on the oil.”

BP’s position that the size of the spill is irrelevant to cleanup stands in contradiction to its own emergency planning statement. On the second page of the 583-page document is the following passage: “an accurate estimation of the spill’s total volume…is essential in providing preliminary data to plan and initiate cleanup operations.”

BP’s transparent aim in obscuring the size of the spill is to limit its liability. “If they put off measuring, then it’s going to be a battle of dueling experts after the fact trying to extrapolate how much spilled after it has all sunk or has been carried away,” Lloyd Benton Miller, a lawyer who represented victims of the Exxon Valdez spill, told McClatchy Newspapers. “The ability to measure how much oil was released will be impossible.”

Evidence continues to mount that the damage done beneath the water’s surface is massive. A team of scientists from the University of South Florida on Thursday discovered an enormous plume of oil stretching 22 miles from the ruptured wellhead toward Mobile Bay in Alabama. The cloud of hydrocarbons is also about six miles wide and reaches from near the water’s surface to 3,300 feet down.

David Hollander, associate professor of chemical oceanography at the University of South Florida, said the thickest concentration was found about 1,300 feet down. Hollander and other researchers believe that the plumes may have been created by the unprecedented use of chemical dispersants to break up the oil at its point of emission. The impact on marine life will be severe.

“There are two elements to it,” Hollander told the Associated Press. “The plume reaching waters on the continental shelf could have a toxic effect on fish larvae, and we also may see a long-term response as it cascades up the food web.”

Fears of what may be taking place underwater have been substantiated by diver Philippe Cousteau, Jr., grandson of the legendary French diver Jacques Cousteau. Diving with an ABC news crew off the Louisiana coast, Cousteau reported tiny oil droplets up and down the water column that coated his diving suit. He called what he saw a “nightmare” and “one of the most horrible things I’ve ever seen underwater.”

The impact on Gulf Coast shores, which had been mitigated for weeks by favorable winds and currents, is now catastrophic. Louisiana officials report that over 100 miles of coastline have been fouled by heavy crude oil stretching much of the length of the Mississippi Delta, potentially suffocating estuaries and marshlands critical for the state’s multibillion-dollar fishing industry.

The Mississippi Delta is one of the most important biological areas in North America. It is home to about 40 percent of all US wetlands, and provides habitat and breeding grounds to thousands of species of fish, reptiles, amphibians and birds. Additionally, it provides a major bulwark for heavily populated southern Louisiana against the hurricanes that regularly strike the region.

Tens of thousands will lose their livelihoods along the Gulf Coast. Fishing has been shut down in 20 percent of US waters in the Gulf with no end in sight, and tourism, critical along the coast as far as south Florida, has been severely damaged.

The spill’s impact on human health is also a major concern. On Wednesday, seven fishermen engaged in spill cleanup in the Breton Sound area were hospitalized after complaining of nausea, dizziness, headaches and chest pains. West Jefferson Medical Center spokeswoman Taslin Alfonso said the men believed they became ill due to exposure to the chemical dispersant used by BP to break up the spill, Corexit.

In another ominous development for the Gulf Coast, NOAA on Thursday predicted one of the most severe hurricane seasons on record, including between 8 and 14 hurricanes, seven of which could be “major”—with winds of over 111 miles per hour. Major storms pose the threat of lifting oil off the seafloor and driving it further onto sensitive coastlines.

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So if you lived in south Alabama a few miles from the still beautiful beach, would you move?

(cause that is where I live).

:/
 
Guardian said:
Allen’s early comments led to jubilant headlines in the US media, but within hours BP was urging caution before admitting in an evening press conference that the result of the effort was, at best, unclear. “What we do know is that we have not yet stopped the flow,” said BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles. “I probably should apologize to folks that we haven’t been giving more data on that,” he said when he was asked why BP did not explain earlier that it had suspended the top kill. “It was nothing more than we are so focused on the operation itself.”

Eh...all anyone had to do was watch the live spill cam. It's hasn't stopped gushing since it went live a few days ago

http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcam
 
Dawn said:
So if you lived in south Alabama a few miles from the still beautiful beach, would you move?

(cause that is where I live).

:/

I just finished having this conversation with a friend of mine in Louisiana. She's afraid that if they wait too long, it will be too late to get out with any more than the shirts on their backs. Bottom line...it's a choice everyone has to make for themselves, each according to their circumstances.

We recently made the choice to leave the coast of Virginia...an area I dearly love, and start over in the mountains. My heart goes out to you Dawn :cry:
 
Perceval said:
Eh...all anyone had to do was watch the live spill cam. It's hasn't stopped gushing since it went live a few days ago

http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcam

I've been watching the feed for days now too. The problem is that I don't know enough about what I'm looking at to understand what I'm seeing. Now there's the possibility that the camera isn't even trained on the most serious leak.
 
Guardian said:
Perceval said:
Eh...all anyone had to do was watch the live spill cam. It's hasn't stopped gushing since it went live a few days ago

http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcam

I've been watching the feed for days now too. The problem is that I don't know enough about what I'm looking at to understand what i'm seeing. Now there's the possibility that the camera isn't even trained on the most serious leak.

I just took it for granted that the "live spill cam" was showing the leak (or at least one of them), which is what is stated on that gov website. So I kept watching it and it hasn't really changed in 48 hours. So based on that I decided that the claims that it had been stopped were not true.
 
Perceval said:
Guardian said:
Perceval said:
Eh...all anyone had to do was watch the live spill cam. It's hasn't stopped gushing since it went live a few days ago

http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcam

I've been watching the feed for days now too. The problem is that I don't know enough about what I'm looking at to understand what i'm seeing. Now there's the possibility that the camera isn't even trained on the most serious leak.

I just took it for granted that the "live spill cam" was showing the leak (or at least one of them), which is what is stated on that gov website. So I kept watching it and it hasn't really changed in 48 hours. So based on that I decided that the claims that it had been stopped were not true.

I was kinda hoping the synthetic "mud" they were injecting just didn't look much different than the oil at that depth.
 
Guardian said:
Perceval said:
Guardian said:
Perceval said:
Eh...all anyone had to do was watch the live spill cam. It's hasn't stopped gushing since it went live a few days ago

http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcam

I've been watching the feed for days now too. The problem is that I don't know enough about what I'm looking at to understand what i'm seeing. Now there's the possibility that the camera isn't even trained on the most serious leak.

I just took it for granted that the "live spill cam" was showing the leak (or at least one of them), which is what is stated on that gov website. So I kept watching it and it hasn't really changed in 48 hours. So based on that I decided that the claims that it had been stopped were not true.

I was kinda hoping the synthetic "mud" they were injecting just didn't look much different than the oil at that depth.

And I was taking them at their word and just expecting it to stop! Guess they fooled me! :umm:
 
Perceval said:
I just took it for granted that the "live spill cam" was showing the leak (or at least one of them), which is what is stated on that gov website. So I kept watching it and it hasn't really changed in 48 hours. So based on that I decided that the claims that it had been stopped were not true.

I've seen a couple claims on the web that what BP has been showing on the 'live' feed is actually a loop that keeps repeating, showing the same footage over and over. That, plus stories that news crews are being kept away from the worst-hit beaches, combined with what we already know about BP and the US govt makes me suspect we don't know much about anything yet.
 
Ok I've thought about this all night because I didn't know how to put it and not seem like a nutcase, so please think about this as a possibilty of even the most tiny of possibilities ....

Is it possible to fake something like this? I mean I'm just throwing this thought out there, because I personally haven't seen it (the spill site). I know of absolutly no one who has seen it. A media blackout? Why? What are they hiding??

So my thought process is as follows:
I've seen NASA photographs, the live feed (sometimes a loop) from BP, a few fishermen who were sickened (three that were interviewed that I know of), I heard and read an intervew of a guy who said he was there, but didn't give his name.

There are 11 dead from the actual explosion, no bodies found:
These people's names have been released:

Jason Anderson
Aaron Dale Burkeen
Donald Clark
Stephen Curtis
Roy Wyatt Kemp
Karl Kleppinger
Gordon Jones (M-I SWACO)
Blair Manuel (M-I SWACO)
Dewey Revette
Shane Roshto
Adam Weise

I don't know if it means anything, but I have a problem taking anything, no matter how obvious, for face value anymore.

It started on 9/11/01 when I said outloud, "hey something is really off here."

But maybe I'm in some sort of denial. :/
 
Dawn: said:
Is it possible to fake something like this?

So far I`ve seen no reason not to assume a huge environmental desaster (the worst in the US sofar?) is unfolding.
At the same time I think this is great theatre to distract from invisible kingdoms warring with each other:

BP is a British global energy company which is the third largest energy company and the fourth largest company in the world
from: _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bp

Could it be that there`s this behind-stage war going on between the big international oil corporations ?

That the desaster was a sabotage act perpetrated by US oil firms in order to destroy BP?

That the oil desaster was staged exactly like 9.11.?

And that this somehow connects with the War in Afghanistan and the oil reserves in/around the Caspian sea that no one talks about?

This offshore drilling rig, btw, wasn`t just some drilling rig, "Deepwater Horizon was an ultra-deepwater, dynamically positioned, semi-submersible offshore drilling rig."
from: _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Water_Horizon

Like the WTT`s weren´t just a bunch of bureau high rises.
I`m mystified by the life video streaming. Are BP`s rulers such nice and conscientious people that they serve the public with this bonus info?
Isn`t this somewhat self deconstructive? Like kinda bad for business?

Whoever chops BP`s head off will be able to sell the oil for a higher price. Isn`t this about concentration of energy/power into a few NWO-compatible hands?
(There`s also a Rockefeller connection and it goes waaay back).

It seems to be business as usual that the true victims, the people of the land and the 2D world, are considered as expendable.
As Robert Moses would say: "You can`t make an omelette without breaking eggs."
 
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