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3DStudent

The Living Force
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Scottie said:
Patience said:
1) CHOOSE YOUR BATTLES - If you have a contentious point to make, know that a "whale," that is, someone with a great deal of Steem Power, roughly the equivalent of 5 to 50 thousand American dollars can smash you. If a whale starts downvoting you, then you have basically been censored. I saw this playing out. Some turd was posting porn photos without attribution (more on photos later in the POSTING section). Someone called it out.

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4) ...OR BECOME A WHALE - Buy a ton of Steem Power and make money simply upvoting and commenting. Seriously... If you want to buy the equivalent of 500,000 American dollars of Steem Power tomorrow, then you can theoretically make a decent living just upvoting and commenting everyday. Just remember that if Steem takes a dive at the same time that your pickup truck needs a transmission, and that was your only 500,000 dollars, then you are SOL. If want to grow your Steem account organically, then no problem...

Does that mean that someone could buy Steam Power to effectively censor someone?

I mean, I know the blockchain is supposed to be inviolable and all that, but even so, that wouldn't stop alphabet soup trolls with money to burn.

Yeah, that sounds like in online video games you could pay real money to buy game money. So it kind of makes it unfair for people who earn the platform's "currency" naturally. I'm still kind of interested in this platform though and may sign up when I get the chance.
 

Bobo08

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
Scottie said:
Does that mean that someone could buy Steam Power to effectively censor someone?

I mean, I know the blockchain is supposed to be inviolable and all that, but even so, that wouldn't stop alphabet soup trolls with money to burn.

Yes in normal cases where the person being censored doesn't have a wide following or is not determined to fight back. However, it would not be an effective censorship strategy for the PTB for the following reasons:

* All voting records are available and easily verifiable. If a person consistently downvotes another person and the second person can make a case that it is censorship of good content, it will draw in other people, including other whales, on the platform. In other words, no ghost-banning is possible.

* There are many upvoting services (where you can buy upvotes for your post) and delegation services (where you can borrow steem power for voting purpose for a certain period). So if you are determined to fight back, it is possible to counter a whale with relatively small amount of money. For example, with $100, you can buy enough voting power to counter a downvote worth $100,000. Of course, you can't do that alone forever, but if you have a good case to make, it will quickly garner support.

* Censorship works at the moment due to the way the main UI (steemit.com) collapses posts with negative rewards. However, there are many other UIs interacting with the same data. Most of them are open source so you can easily put up a UI without the post collapsing feature.

In short, whale downvoting is more about taking away the reward than censorship.
 

StrangeCaptain

Jedi Council Member
Bobo08 said:
* There are many upvoting services (where you can buy upvotes for your post) and delegation services (where you can borrow steem power for voting purpose for a certain period). So if you are determined to fight back, it is possible to counter a whale with relatively small amount of money. For example, with $100, you can buy enough voting power to counter a downvote worth $100,000. Of course, you can't do that alone forever, but if you have a good case to make, it will quickly garner support.

This is interesting. I was not aware of this.

I like the buzz of activity and all the user-built services being built around steemit. It is an interesting network. Bit of a learning curve though...
 

Beorn

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
I just applied for an account. My username is jj3. I'm wondering what the demographics are like. I suppose it's more techy kind of people at the moment but something like this may one day provide a real alternative to the big social media platforms.
 

whitecoast

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Beorn said:
I just applied for an account. My username is jj3. I'm wondering what the demographics are like. I suppose it's more techy kind of people at the moment but something like this may one day provide a real alternative to the big social media platforms.

I think that's to the advantage of SOTT. People there are mostly techies and those in exodus from reddit/facebook, meaning they understand that the mainstream lies and are looking for other types of answers. If enough people join, it's a lot easier to influence the culture of the platform in more positive ways, which in turn will draw higher quality users. :)
 

Kaigen

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
whitecoast said:
Beorn said:
I just applied for an account. My username is jj3. I'm wondering what the demographics are like. I suppose it's more techy kind of people at the moment but something like this may one day provide a real alternative to the big social media platforms.

I think that's to the advantage of SOTT. People there are mostly techies and those in exodus from reddit/facebook, meaning they understand that the mainstream lies and are looking for other types of answers. If enough people join, it's a lot easier to influence the culture of the platform in more positive ways, which in turn will draw higher quality users. :)

I agree whitecoast, what I've seen so far people have no fix ideas or pushing their agendas because it is not working there. People tend to ask questions, like: "what do you mean by that" or "how does that work". I see lot of potencial for sites like sott.net or pracownia4.
 

realitybugll

Jedi Council Member
Maybe it's already been mentioned, I wanted to say a good way to get a following, and to start on steemit.com is by writing comments on trending articles that interest you. Or find users with influence on the platform, who's content you like, and comment on articles of these influential users, who you might end up having discussion with, who might follow you back.

Then after you have a following, perhaps use the introduceyourself tag and introduce yourself in 4 parts, 1 each week, and hope to try to catch the attention/votes of as many of your followers as you can that way, and ideally gather new followers.
 

Ant22

Ambassador
Ambassador
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My account has now been approved and my nick is antvol. I already added myself to the list Carl created and I will follow everyone as soon as I have some time. :)
 

Kaigen

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
This is very good site wich provides you with all informations to your acount on one page.
You just need to switch accounts to see someone els account, everything is very transparrent.
You can see on this site my account with all data. Also this site don't use any log in.

_https://steemworld.org/@kaigen
 

Beorn

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
My account has just been approved with the nick: jeff3
I've added it to the Google doc.
 

Keyhole

Ambassador
Ambassador
FOTCM Member
May have hit a stumbling block already. It wont let me post the third part of an article I was putting together:

eonutrition bandwidth limit exceeded. Please wait to transact or power up STEEM.
 

Ant22

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Ambassador
FOTCM Member
Keyhole said:
May have hit a stumbling block already. It wont let me post the third part of an article I was putting together:

eonutrition bandwidth limit exceeded. Please wait to transact or power up STEEM.

What does "power up steem" mean? Would it help if we upvoted the first two parts of the article for example?
 
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