On Death

[bjorb]

[quote author=muxel]OBEs might possibly be brain phenomena.[/quote]

That’s only if you are familiar with the cases of the ‘floating’ sensation. The ‘OBE’ phenomena is far bigger than that. Cases of unconscious people describing situations they couldn't have heard or saw for example are intriguing. NDE (Near Death Experience) is also something worthy to look into I think.


[quote author= muxel]Also if there is "life" after death, I'm quite sure it's not the kind of life we have now, where we think and feel, because the life we have now is inextricably linked to our body.[/quote]

Many reports of people who briefly have gone to the other side through a NDE report that our state of being isn’t exactly the same as in our bodies.


- What do you think/feel is the purpose of life muxel ? Isn’t that part of the answer you are searching for while asking questions about death ?

People who wrestle with searching a fulfilling purpose often have such questions. But I could be wrong of course.

 

[Siberia]

Hi Siberia, thanks for the quote, it seems Ra is saying what is carried over after death is the distillation of our emotions/thoughts in our lifetime. I suppose that would be the case (for sure we don't take our prefrontal cortex over after death!) and it makes me question if this means that our "subconscious" carries over.

Yeah, our emotions, thoughts and most importantly deeds, I think. Our essence, if we have one. If our life is empty and meaningless, then there's probably not much left after physical death. It reminds me of the latest SOTT article by Pierre Lescaudron The Fear of Death and the Human Need for Heroes, which is excellent as always:

I remember witnessing several heated discussions about death. Usually about one half of the participants were deeply convinced that there was nothing after death and were logically afraid of death. Meanwhile the other half was equally convinced that death was some kind of transition and that the soul would continue its journey. It doesn't mean they were not afraid of death and the suffering, change and uncertainty that goes with it. But all in all, they were probably less terrorized by it.

What if both parties were right? Actually, philosophers like Mouravieff or Gurdjieff suggested as much by alluding to the coexistence of two kinds of humans. Souled beings and non-souled beings. If this is true, it may be one of the reasons why people score differently on the authoritarian follower scale. People not yet of an individuated soul may need to attach themselves to a leader more than others because of their (justified) deep fear of death and lack of internal guidance (conscience).

Speaking of heroes, it also reminds me of the Troy soundtrack by Josh Groban:

Remember
When your dreams have ended
Time can be transcended
Just remember me

I am the one star that keeps burning
So brightly
It is the last light
To fade into the rising sun
I'm with you whenever you tell
My story
For I am all I've done

We are what we have done, or so I think. And if we haven't accomplished much, there's probably not much left, when we're physically gone.

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[DavidHP]

It maybe of little help but in my case I had many experiences since childhood where I could see my body lying down while I was able to move around and see clearly even in dark rooms at night , I don't know at what point it happened but it is quite natural for me to talk about me as separate from my body, the distinction is clear and more like instinctual rather than something that I arrived to after serious logical thinking, to me it just is that my body is not me. Strange when I put in words, but I have no idea where the knowledge comes from, it is not a conviction or belief, I just know that is the way it is,and so, I know that death is " just " leaving the current body permanently