Once You Take The Red Pill

[Laura]

They (there's that word again) never do anything obvious when you're with someone. That's how they get away with it. It's all a mind game.

Then, there's your solution: have a network, install a security camera, and they'll stop bothering you. The smarter you get and the harder you make it for them to play their games, the sooner they'll go away and bother somebody who hasn't figured this out.

 

[Iconoclast]

questions that popped into my mind while reading this thread:

CT, what is your general field of expertise (job)?

have you ever worked for the military or other 'suspicious' entities (boeing, JPL, RAND corp. or the like)?

does anyone in your family have a military (industrial complex) background?

any scientists in your family?


maybe the cause of the surveillance/mindgames doesn't lie with you but a relative or friend.

 

[COINTELPRO THIS]

How do you use it to increase your sanity and strength?

Your question is a good one. And I guess that's what I'm really looking for. Actually, that's the ONLY thing I'm looking for.

I've taken a look at how others are dealing with this. They carry cameras everywhere they go. They look for hand signals. ( I know nothing about these signals) They copy licence plates and keep logs. To me this is useless. The whole concept of justice is an illusion. The whole system is corrupt.

Eventually, we will all need to be saved from evil. I mean that literally. So, where will go? This is child's play compared to 16 million (?) Nephilim dropping by for tea.

All I can do is secure my immediate environment. They have their agenda, I have mine.

1. CT, what is your general field of expertise (job)?

2. have you ever worked for the military or other 'suspicious' entities (boeing, JPL, RAND corp. or the like)?

3. does anyone in your family have a military (industrial complex) background?

4. any scientists in your family?

1.Non-technical, non-industrial
2.No
3.Yes
4.Yes

I would really be surprised if any of this had anything to do with my family. Thank you for the input, though.

...but I think attitude has as much to do with occurrences like you are writing about than anything.

My initial reaction to this is resistance. But I've thought about it and you may be right. It is, after all, a mind-game. Maybe it's not so much about who I am as an individual, but who I am emotionally. Your point is well taken. Thank you. I will give this idea some room in my head.

 

[Renaissance]

...but I think attitude has as much to do with occurrences like you are writing about than anything.

My initial reaction to this is resistance. But I've thought about it and you may be right. It is, after all, a mind-game. Maybe it's not so much about who I am as an individual, but who I am emotionally. Your point is well taken. Thank you. I will give this idea some room in my head.

Could it be dangerous to be extra friendly with these people? i.e. introduce yourself, give you neighbors holiday cards, invite them over for coffee, etc. If you can figure some safe things out, you might as well have some fun with it.

 

[j0da]

Networking is the key, definately. I was thinking about your situation, CT and somehow it reminded me of communist Poland.

Think about it - pervasive surveillance (phones either not working, or playing "your communication is controlled" message), informants/snitches infiltrating every community, group, every larger apartement building, excessive police patrols, controls, curfew..It's hard to describe in few words how oppresive this system was and how everyday life of a citizen was complicated and stressful. How did it happen that whole nation didn't go bonkers?!

Members of the underground, of worker's unions had it even worse - basically, thay were in your shoes. There was always some guy at the other side of a street, few guys in a parked car - just sitting there and WATCHING. Active union members had to deal with it every day, almost every moment of their life - phones, homes tapped, unexpected visits from police, classic coat&hat strangers following them wherever they went.

Now, those opressed people wouldn't get far if they were focused all the time on what's going around them, would they? Proper attitude was necessary. "Yes, I'm being followed, yes, my phone is tapped, yes, my home can be visited by police any time, BUT LIFE GOES ON." One just HAD TO GET OVER IT, and focus on doing what needed to be done.

Of course, it wouldn't be possible to live like that, if Poles couldn't meet each other, talk about it, maybe curse like hell sometimes, but laugh a lot in the same time. I was very young when martial law was instated, but I remember few things. People were gathering in their homes, at evenings - a couple of families would come together, sit till late night and talk. They met to share frustration, anger, sadness but also exchange jokes - dozens of them. Really, looking back I'd say my parents never laughed more often or hard as during those dark times. Tightly packed in a living room, three or four families were enjoying each other company, drinking lousy tea, coffe, smoking hell lot of cigarettes, laughing their butts off.

Ah, those were THE times...

I hope it helps, CT.

 

[COINTELPRO THIS]

Could it be dangerous to be extra friendly with these people?

My better judgement says, Yes. That would be unwise. I am normally a very friendly, outgoing person. I have no trouble talking to people. I do, however, have filters and my life-long joust with people who I consider to be nothing less than trespassers into my personal space has turned into a war to defend - literally - my personal space.

I might not be in this position if I had been more accomodating to the selfish, egotistical, arrogant tyrants I've stood up to throughout the years, but alas I am who I am. I just don't have it in me to play the game where I always get to lose and they always get to win.

side note: I went through a sort of transformation about 4 years ago when I started to connect with people on a much deeper level. I don't really understand how this came about, but I started to see beyond the stereotypes of age, race, and social status and I began to care more about people than I ever had before. I also became more acutely aware of those who did not inspire me to look any deeper into them than what I saw. These were the predators, although I would not have put it quite like that a month ago before I understood the genetic differences in people. (ok. I don't totally understand it, but these differences do ring true to me)

These people are predators of whole different magnitude. They've taken off the gloves. They've taken off the masks. They will intrude into my life whether I like it or not.

What you are suggesting might have worked a few months or years ago, when they knew I didn't know what was happening, but I have made it clear to them that I know what's going on. It's too late in the game to play dumb. Thank you for your input.

There was always some guy at the other side of a street, a few guys in a parked car - just sitting there and WATCHING.

That's exactly right. And they always have a phone to their ear. Always. I think they must be on their own channel.

They sit in cars outside my window. They escort me to work. They escort me home. One day last week I pulled into the parking lot at work and sat in my car for a few moments. Sure enough I see a white pick-up truck pull into the lot - does not park - drives around. My car is between two large SUV's so he can't see me right away. Eventually he sees my car, but he doesn't realize I'm still in it. He pulls right in front of me, stops the truck, (phone to his ear) looks at me and dashes right back out onto the street. His only purpose for being in that parking lot was to verify that I was there and communicate that to whoever wanted that information.

That same day, I leave work at about 8:00pm. As soon as I get into my car, a (different) truck pulls into a space just ahead of me and off to the left. I sit there and wait. Nobody gets out. I wait some more. Nobody gets out. 5 minutes go by and nobody gets out of this truck. I throw my car into gear and pull-up directly next to the passenger side of the truck and there I see the man standing between the open driver-side door and the inside of the truck. Phone to ear. I look directly at him. His only purpose is to confirm that I am leaving work. Somebody else will join me on my drive home - in front and behind - phones to ear - and they will escort me home.

BUT LIFE GOES ON.

Yes. A very different kind of life. Thank you for the parallels. This IS the Nazis all over again.

I should also point out that this is not just a bunch of guys in pick-up trucks. It's suburban moms in mini-vans.Young people, old people, all different races. Some look like CIA. Some look like PTA.

Blows my mind.

 

[Russ]

They (there's that word again) never do anything obvious when you're with someone. That's how they get away with it. It's all a mind game.

Then, there's your solution: have a network, install a security camera, and they'll stop bothering you. The smarter you get and the harder you make it for them to play their games, the sooner they'll go away and bother somebody who hasn't figured this out.

I agree! Think about what will make their job really difficult. If you get a closed circuit camera with a video recorder in a tough metal box, with a time delay lock on it - so it will only open when you're at home, everything will be recorded and the only way they'll get to the tape is by smashing the box open. I actually have no idea how much those things cost, or how easy it is to do, but I reckon thats how you've got to think. Maybe try and get a house mate aswell, or just someone who can live with you. Then, they won't be able to play their games because you'll just assume the house mate moved something.

 

[dant]

There are many security devices available, but you can do it several ways. You can
do a continuous scan (DVD/VCR) recording or you can get more sophisticated ones
that can do motion detection triggers. Depending on 'features', you can motion-trigger
and do timed continuous scans and then trigger-re-arm for the next motion detection.

You can even get one that is web-based so that if you are elsewhere and have access
to your website (or an off site web-server), you can log in and monitor. You can even
have recordings sent to another system off site and/or send a page yourself (cell-phone?)
the photos. There are many options are available but you have to review and research
the product for it's capabilities. Some products support remote control so that you can
pan and zoom the camera itself.

If you want night time monitoring, be sure that the camera can support low-lux, night
viewing as some cameras are limited to what it can "see" at night, again, do the research.

 

[davey72]

Hello. I have only read the first page of this thread so far, so i am sure it has been suggested, But i would really reccomend doing the ee breathing/meditation, and change of diet--asap.
Please take this at face value, as that is how it is meant, but you really have arrived at the right place. meaning basically, the cassiopaeans, and everyone in this forum. The c's have said that networking is sto, and also creates psychic linking. meaning that we are all becoming a community. Together we shall overcome anything. :)

 

[davey72]

The first thing I'll address is the issue of my sanity. Because your response is a common one. (not neccessarily to me, personally, but to all those who are going through this)

I asked myself, is this just my imagination? So I look at the facts.
Yes, somebody was in my car last night because I never pull down the visor on the passenger side.

Yes, somebody was in my car because two of the doors are unlocked and I never leave my car unlocked.

Yes, somebody was in my car because the spare keys in the glove compartment are gone.

Yes, somebody has been in my apartment because that toilet paper did not fly through the air by itself and land on my nightstand.

Yes, somebody has been in my apartment because I did not open every wrapper on every piece of candy in the candy dish.

Yes, somebody has been in my apartment because I did not break the temperature dial off the refrigerator and place the broken dial back there next to the mayonaisse (where it could not have landed even if it did just break-off by itself after I closed the refrigerator door)

Now I look at the circumstantial evidence...
I change the light bulb in the hallway just outside my apartment door and 3 days later EVERY light bulb in the hallway is burnt-out. There are five of them, including the one I just changed.

The only mail I've gotten in the last 3 or 4 months is bills. No advertisements. No credit card applications.(which I usually get every 20 minutes) Nothing.


I have a telephone converstion with someone and the subject of god comes up. We talk a bit about god. Holy spirit, etc.. I talk about what I've discovered on the net. This network of stalkers harrassing people. Twenty minutes after the conversation ends, I get a text message featuring a character with hands praying (you know the drill) accompanied by music.

Driving back from Florida I notice cars in my rear-view mirror doing 90 miles per hour to catch up to me and then stay right behind me, or in front of me - back and forth - for fifty miles or so, then exit after another vehicle takes their place, behind me - in front of me - behind me - in front of me, each car does the exact same thing. I see what's going on and take my foot off the accelerator to allow my car to slow down to 40 mph, they slow down also.

I only stop for gas. I drive from Florida to Chicago in 17 hours. 3 miles from my last exit I slow down to an unlawful speed of 35 mph and spot the 3 vehicles who have also slowed down.

I go out to my car the next morning and see that my rear, driver-side tire is completely flat. Brand new tires. Two weeks old.

All of these situations can only be explained by using the word "they".

Why so much trouble and expense? That's exactly what I ask myself. This is the $64,000 question that everybody is asking. Why? I got most of my information from a website, which if you would like me post here I will, but as I said before, I don't want to throw this thing in here out of left field. I don't expect you or anybody else here to solve a problem for me. I am here because I want the truth. I want to know what's going on.

Some people (at different websites) think it's the Masons. The government. The corporations. The aliens... etc. etc..

I think it's bigger than that. Way bigger.

Have I seen The Matrix? Yes. Fantastic movie. The Wachowski brothers are from Chicago. (just a little fun fact there)

Have you ever thought that this sort of stuff may be part of your own personal program? That these are distractions that you design for yourself? Just a thought.

 

[Beau]

Have you ever thought that this sort of stuff may be part of your own personal program? That these are distractions that you design for yourself? Just a thought.

Davey, did you notice that, again, you are replying to a post from almost 4 years ago, and that the person who wrote the post is no longer a member of the forum?

 

[davey72]

All of these situations can only be explained by using the word "they".

Hey COINTELPRO THIS. I don't want to sound disrespectful or imply anything at all (because weird things DO happen), but have you considered possible case of dissociation, as described in "Myth of Sanity" by Martha Stout?

I ask it because most of the things you described could be done in dissociative state (and note that it doesn't necessarily mean that you have multiply personality disorder) and you will have no conscious recollection of the event. It is way too common phenomena than you may realise.

Other things you mentioned ("significant coincidences") could be explained as patterns that you notice because your mind is actually looking for them (and you will always find something!). I am not saying that this is your case, just something that maybe worth considering.

Yes, sorry Cointelprothis. This is exactly what i was getting at. And just a quick glance at the other post under this. Instead of dismissing it altogether, ask yourself if it is possible that maybe you did throw away yer carkeys, etc. I only say this, cause after long self observation, i finally realized that i was doing these things to myself, as well. It is like the old saying that you make your own luck. Well it is true. I was doing these things to myself, subconsciously. I would also get very defensive if anyone even suggested this to me. please don't take this wrong, I am just offering a possible explanation.

 

[anart]

Hi davey - can I ask how your rehab is going?

 

[davey72]

Sorry Anart, I have never checked to see if people are still members, or not. Once again, i was not aware that there was a time limit on the posts, and my rehab is going well, again. I have noticed through trial and error, that my diet makes a huge difference. If i am cutting out most things other than meat i do not seem to experience the crippling anxiety that i normally do. I have been doing as much of the ee as i can, as well. I am also rereading the wave, as i read it first like ten years ago, and was probably pretty high when i did so. I am getting a lot out of it this time around. Sorry to everyone that i have affected.

 

[anart]

Sorry Anart, I have never checked to see if people are still members, or not. Once again, i was not aware that there was a time limit on the posts, and my rehab is going well, again. I have noticed through trial and error, that my diet makes a huge difference. If i am cutting out most things other than meat i do not seem to experience the crippling anxiety that i normally do. I have been doing as much of the ee as i can, as well. I am also rereading the wave, as i read it first like ten years ago, and was probably pretty high when i did so. I am getting a lot out of it this time around. Sorry to everyone that i have affected.

As I wrote in the other thread to you:
There is no time limit, Davey. The point is that you respond to these posts as if the person who wrote them is still having the same issue they were having four of five years ago or even one year ago. That is almost always not the case. It shows a lack of awareness on your part. In some cases, you respond to an early post in a thread that is four or five years old without even reading the entire thread to find out the issue was resolved four years ago. You've mentioned that you are using (occasionally) drugs again and I just want to make sure that you understand that we strongly request that you not post on this forum while you are high or otherwise impaired. Thanks.

Glad to hear that you're working on your diet, it will make an enormous difference.