Pete Santilli: Dr. Judy Wood's handler? Cointelpro?

[Olesya]

Re: Pete Santilli & Dr. Judy Wood - Psy-Ops - Cointelpro?

Here is another Judy Wood's groupie, specialist in cold fusion - Conrado Salas Cano _http://conradosalas.info/.

He studied at Caltech, then, at Portland State University under tutelage of Dr. John Dash _http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DashJcoldfusion.pdf His participation in free energy conference was published in New Energy Times _http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2007/NET20.shtml. He has 2 publications (I can't be sure, maybe, more) in scientific journals here _http://conradosalas.info/ICCF9KWSD.pdf and here _http://conradosalas.info/JNE7-1.pdfNow He lives in Zaragoza, Spain. Previously, he had 2 websites _http://conrado,50gigs.net (the content of this site is blocked) and _conrado.net/.

His website is basically a front page with lots of links and nothing more. It was last modified on May 5 (same day as the talk show aired), 2013, 16:30 UTC . What immediately jumps out is this:

" WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER INVESTIGATION INTO 9/11. Any such officially-launched investigation, no matter how "independent" it is touted as, is bound to be a cover-up and whitewash...", plastered there in Capital letters and red ink.

At first, he seems to be just a staunch promoter of Judy Wood's book (he posted, basically, the same message promoting the book and "free energy" and DEW theory on many websites related to 9/11 events, but only in comments section),

writing stuff like this:

"For the record, Judy Wood does not in fact think that the 9/11 attacks ere perpetrated "by the US government", but rather by unknown agency with access to these horrifically-advanced weapon systems of which the public has no knowledge...

...Judy agrees with me, though, that the US government, or the US military-intelligence-media apparatus, was involved in covering up the damning evidence at Ground Zero and elsewhere. And why would that be? Let’s suppose, for a moment, that the actual perpetrator of were some rogue group from Russia... that is reported to have access to these scalar-type advanced weapons. So, if the US government was completely innocent and taken off guard during the attacks, and the news media in America had not been issued by such government or its attendant intelligence apparatus any cover-up instructions, why then did the major news channels refuse to report the dangerous approach to New York City on 9/11 of Hurricane Erin, an atmospheric phenomenon which Judy Wood's research shows was clearly coupled to the bizarre energy fields that were unleashed on the Twin Towers in that horrific morning?"

No answer given. Supposedly, one need to read the book to know...

About Jim Marrs he writes:

"... an able conspiracy researcher, but he doesn't go far enough, for my taste, and there is about him a tone of information control, what is termed in intelligence agency jargon “limited hangout”: the release, under investigative and public inquiry pressure, of some concealed information as a ploy to give the appearance of “coming clean”; while withholding the most sensitive and scandalous secrets of the affair in question, with an eye to protecting such hardcore secrets from further probing, which it is hoped will be discouraged, the public being satisfied that a full confession has been made".

Then, he comments on Webster Tarpley and Jim Keith saying that he "...may have been a limited hangout operative, or a double agent, or who at least “straddled the fence”.

Later, he comments on WING TV as well. And here, things are getting interesting, osit.

"The very punchy show WING TV is now closed although the archived materials in its website are very valuable. Victor Thorn, who used to run it with Lisa Guliani, never trusted Alex's ( he means Alex Jones) in-your-face, highly-muscled reporting. But Victor is no knight in shining armor. His former show co-host Lisa Guliani split off from him, and I think I know why ( he provided a link _http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message312742/pg1?regp=bm9fMTM0NzAyOTUxNg==), although I will not say it here."

Lisa explained why, when she described the abuse she suffered from Thorn and his doings. But then, she said: " Over the last five years, I found myself having to confront and stand up to Thorn more and more on basic issues of right and wrong. For example, John Kaminski and his moronic hitpieces against Laura & SOTT. I refused to HELP Kaminski attack Laura & SOTT, because these attacks are completely unwarranted and undeserved."He called Thorn a "deeply imbalanced narcissist", but like there was nothing to it.

Well, she explicitly said that she refused to help... attack Laura and SOTT! Was it that he was alluding to?

Then, he posts an incredibly long list of things and people he "likes" and "loves", too long to mention (it looks like David Icke is his favorite), but says basically nothing coherent. All of it looks like mambo-jumbo, so bizarre, my head started spin. He certainly, strongly exhibits narcissistic behaviour. Maybe, he is just loony?

It is interesting, osit, that he's bragging, when he writes: "a special mention must be accorded to John B Alexander, the nominally non-lethal, but certainly very dangerous, D. Death... I met him in Albuquerque in 1999, and asked him flat out when he thought that ET UFOs would at last be officially admitted to. His answer was rotund: “Never!”, he said. He did not obviously pass up the chance to practice psychological warfare on me. Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeir have denounced him as a programmer: a programmer, also called a “handler...”.

He mentioned mind-control one other time saying that "for many months"... he lived " in this latter's (Cisco Wheeler's) former house in Oregon City".

There is more. Here _http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.journal28mar28,0,509078.column?page=1 ) in the article The Web as al-Qaida's safety net, March 28, 2003, his name is mentioned in connection with his involvment in an incident when his website was supposedly hacked by al-Qaida (yeah, right! FBI-CIA, maybe?):

"All three hacked sites are on the servers of Liquid Web, based in Lansing, Mich.

Jack Flintz, the company's security administrator, says he discovered al-Neda lurking amid the personal pages of graduate student Conrado Salas Cano on Feb. 25.

Flintz says he reported the intrusion to the FBI's Detroit office, where Special Agent Dean Kinsman asked him to leave al-Neda running so agents could monitor its content and visitors.

Liquid Web removed the pages last week, and for a few hours anyone who visited the address was redirected to the FBI's Most Wanted page. Whose trick that was is unknown: Kinsman declined to comment, and Cano only confirmed by e-mail that his site experienced "an unauthorized hacking."

Was he used as a willing participant or unwitting subject for the purpose of getting the names for the FBI?

 

[sitting]

Re: Pete Santilli & Dr. Judy Wood - Psy-Ops - Cointelpro?

Take DNA for example. It is complex (i.e., highly improbable sequence of genetic 'letters') and highly specified (i.e., this sequence isn't just complex--a random sequence of DNA is just as complex--but it has 'meaning' in the sense that it codes for functional proteins). If we take a protein that's 200 amino acids in length, there are a ton of possible amino acid sequences of that length. But only a tiny fraction of them will produce a functional protein. There aren't enough 'probabilistic resources' (i.e. time and opportunities) in the universe to randomly generate such a protein. So information of this type is highly improbable.

Castaneda in describing the many bands of emanations from the "Eagle", and their purpose, used the term "organization" for a majority of them. I'm wondering if that term might be appropriate in helping to describe the information field. That it inherently has order, purposefulness, and meaningfulness. In other words...organization.

 

[Lisa Guliani]

Conrado Salas Cano somehow searched and found my unlisted telephone number and called my home on Friday, September 7, September 2012.
The number from which he called was a Spain telephone number.
I'd never heard of this person at all prior to the phone call.
He was asking me to clarify why I left WING TV and asked me questions about Victor Thorn and Alex Jones - he claimed the purpose of his questions was that he wanted to put correct information on his website and wanted to get the info straight from me rather than speculate and say something incorrect.
He claimed to be a freelance reporter/9/11 researcher.

He was very polite and pleasant and I've not heard from him since. He sent me an email asking if the following 'article' was written by me.

From: Conrado Salas Cano <conradosalas@hotmail.com>
To: wingedpiper@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Hi, Lisa, thanks so much for answering my phone call, here’s the dubious link and my website

Hi, Lisa

Here’s the link with the purported article by you
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message312742/pg1?regp=bm9fMTM0NzAyOTUxNg==
I can be reached at
conrado.salas.cano
via skype, , or at this e-mail.
My phone number in Spain is 34-976-254405
Warm greetings,

Conrado
http://conradosalas.info
P.S. (I am now in the midst of revising the wording of the paragraph in my site about you and WING TV)
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I can't access this now. I just tried and the website says my IP is banned, for some reason.
This is a brand new computer and I've never gone on that nasty website with this machine or from this location, so I don't know why I'd be 'banned' from accessing any links to material on there.

But I remember being able to look at it back in September when Salos sent it to me - and if memory serves me, this was a copy and paste from one of my CASS forum posts from a while back, ( like 2006?) talking about Thorn's abusive behavior.
Someone copied and pasted what I said on this forum and put it on the GP website.

And to clarify: in a previous post, I was quoted as saying "I would not help John Kaminski attack Laura or SOTT" and this is true.
At the time, Kaminski had written a nasty hit piece about them and when Thorn wanted to have him on our show, I was very much against it. Thorn wouldn't listen to me and still had JK on the show.
So I boycotted the show that day and was very upset about it.

 

[Mark7]

:( Yikes, Pete Santilli is now inciting the military it seems...

_http://12160.info/video/pete-santilli-makes-plea-to-military-to-start-taking-out?xg_source=activity

Santilli is exactly that, a provocateur. To incite our military without any evidence of assurance that we the people will back them up, is a set up to identify and arrest our military. At least those left who are still our military, rather than the foreign occupiers military since they have purged many of the Constitutionalists from the service already. Until the "people" show some overt organization and commitment in massive numbers, I highly recommend those military still on our side, remain as Sun Tsu recommends in "The Art of War", when you are the underdog. Remember who controls all weaponry, ammo, and trooop movements, and its not us YET. We have done nothing to prove to our military that we will stand with them. Until we do, going underground is a much better ploy and wait....... wait until they make their big move. At that point all of us should respond. I suspect they intend to take us down one major city at a time with lockdowns, gun confiscation etc..... Remember the hats worn at the Boston marathon by the seals carrying black bags,,,,, they are the same symbol the Zionists had the SS wearing on their caps with their black uniforms. Gee, what a coincidence.... lol

Once we resort to violence, they will know exactly what to do with us...

[edit: added personal comment]

 

[Joe]

I can't access this now. I just tried and the website says my IP is banned, for some reason.
This is a brand new computer and I've never gone on that nasty website with this machine or from this location, so I don't know why I'd be 'banned' from accessing any links to material on there.

But I remember being able to look at it back in September when Salos sent it to me - and if memory serves me, this was a copy and paste from one of my CASS forum posts from a while back, ( like 2006?) talking about Thorn's abusive behavior.

Someone copied and pasted what I said on this forum and put it on the GP website.

Yeah, it's a copy of this post by you

The Salas person names David Icke as top of his list of 'truthtellers'.

 

[Aiming]

Re: Pete Santilli & Dr. Judy Wood - Psy-Ops - Cointelpro?

Maybe Zebuhr had more to do with this book than people realize.
Just my two cents' worth.

That may actually be the key... to the book and the murder.

This is going to sound horrible, but putting the pieces in this thread together, it actually makes sense.

Zebuhr could have been doing his own research. If at some point he showed his notes and work to Judy, perhaps she thought that what he found was the key- but wanted it for herself so she could be in the limelight. If there was damage done due to the coma, who knows what she would have been willing to do or pay someone else to do. So Zebuhr was killed- by who it is not known (discounting official records). His notes and work could then taken and used as Judy's own. But there's one problem- she doesn't understand Zebuhr's work or how to relay it to the public.

(...)

Don't know whether Wood would be consciously in on a murder (if there's anything to speak of in terms of 'conscious' anyway), but I did think the same in terms of Zebuhr possibly having been the author of the book. Perhaps Zebuhr's uncle is a missing link here?

One thing that really stands out for me is her past connections to intel etc., combined with her long coma, and her so aberrant behaviour on the show. Yes, it might well be merely brain damage/some sort of characteropathy, but I keep wondering whether there's something even bigger going on than just a characteropathic Ms Wood in liaison with a Santilli snake who likes to make a buck and be famous - in that, all we know about mind control and patsies and how cointelpro works etc., whether Wood was actually worked on in a more thorough way? That long time of her coma, if it was such, would surely have provided enough time to tamper with her. However, that's just speculating. Perhaps each's pathology is already enough to be used by various earthly sinister agencies for their ends of vectoring.

If this is mainly about two pathologicals wanting ego fame and a buck, i.e. no mind control agency pulling the strings on this one - at the very least, those two make for perfect (or not so perfect when faced with Sott folks) puppets on strings on the chessboard of cosmic cointelpro.

On a different note, I'm finding it so interesting what came out of this Sott radio show, and subsequently what's been coming of the digging in this thread so far - pull on a thread you didn't even notice before, and there, another rabbit hole full of tangled webs!

In any case, I think you guys handled it very well on the show, even though I agree it was quite exhausting to listen to Wood's behaviour. Thanks for your ongoing work!

 

[Olesya]

And to clarify: in a previous post, I was quoted as saying "I would not help John Kaminski attack Laura or SOTT" and this is true.
At the time, Kaminski had written a nasty hit piece about them and when Thorn wanted to have him on our show, I was very much against it. Thorn wouldn't listen to me and still had JK on the show.
So I boycotted the show that day and was very upset about it.

Hi, Lisa! Thank you for clarification, although it's certainly not needed. I have no doubt in my mind that what you wrote is true. I hope the way I wrote it, didn't came out the wrong way. English is not my mother's tongue, as you, probably, have already noticed :) I hope that with practice, I will be able to better express my thoughts :)

BTW, the mentor of Conrado Salas Cano at Portland University, Dr. John Dash is listed as a member (second from the top) of the New Energy Foundation. Here _http://www.newconnexion.net/kaplan/home.html the following is written about him:

"Researchers at Los Alamos National Laboratory and the U.S. Navy’s China Lake research lab have conducted successful cold fusion experiments. Finally, the U.S. Army has reviewed the pioneering cold fusion research of Dr. John Dash, a mettalurgist from Portland State University in Oregon, and decided to fund his work for three years.

It is curious, osit, that U.S. Navy’s China Lake facility is mentioned there. If I remember correctly, that was the place (mentioned by many mind control survivors), where the most horrific mind control experiments were conducted.

 

[Olesya]

BTW, the mentor of Conrado Salas Cano at Portland University, Dr. John Dash is listed as a member (second from the top) of the New Energy Foundation.

Sorry, a little correction. When I wrote this, I meant this list provided by Aragorn.

conference speakers

Martin Burger
John Dash
Mark Comings
Dr. Steven Greer
Brian O'Leary
Peter LaVaute
Nick Cook
Win Lambertson
Tom Valone
Kenneth M. Rauen

 

[Hesper]

Re: Pete Santilli & Dr. Judy Wood - Psy-Ops - Cointelpro?

Maybe Zebuhr had more to do with this book than people realize.
Just my two cents' worth.

That may actually be the key... to the book and the murder.

I hated to say it but, from the evidence that we've gathered it does look like this is a definite possibility. As Pashalis said, a "not so nice thought".

 

[Laura]

Thing is, all these terms: free energy, zero-point energy, etc, are just cover terms for the transition from 4D to 3D, i.e. hyperdimensional interface. They go to those "zero points" and stop there and think it is just "something from nothing."

 

[Lisa Guliani]

Question: I don't have the book, so I can't check myself. Is Michael Zebuhr cited or credited anywhere in Wood's book?
In the Zebuhr forum thread, Dick Eastman made reference to Zebuhr contributing to Wood's research on ( use of?) directed energy weapons.
Considering the alleged close friendship/relationship that they supposedly had, I wonder how much, if any, of Zebuhr's work made it into that book.
Of course, it's unlikely we'll ever find out the answer to that, but I do wonder if he was cited/credited at all.
Taking into account his status as an 'active student member' of Scholars for 911 Truth at the time, he may have been VERY involved in compiling the research for - or with - Wood for the book.

 

[Palinurus]

I don't have the book either, but on her own website _http://drjudywood.com/ I found only this reference to joint endeavors -- but said site is a veritable labyrinth, so there might be more:

_http://drjudywood.com/articles/aluminum/Aluminum_Glows.html

Whether this was enclosed in the book or not, I do not know.

Hope this helps a bit.

 

[aragorn]

Question: I don't have the book, so I can't check myself. Is Michael Zebuhr cited or credited anywhere in Wood's book?
In the Zebuhr forum thread, Dick Eastman made reference to Zebuhr contributing to Wood's research on ( use of?) directed energy weapons.
Considering the alleged close friendship/relationship that they supposedly had, I wonder how much, if any, of Zebuhr's work made it into that book.
Of course, it's unlikely we'll ever find out the answer to that, but I do wonder if he was cited/credited at all.
Taking into account his status as an 'active student member' of Scholars for 911 Truth at the time, he may have been VERY involved in compiling the research for - or with - Wood for the book.

Fwiw, looking at Wood's bio page from June, 2007 (one year after Michael's death) it says:

_http://web.archive.org/web/20070605111235/http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/Wood_Bio.html

From 1999 to 2006 Dr. Wood has been an assistant professor in the Mechanical Engineering Department at Clemson University in Clemson, South Carolina. Before moving to Clemson she spent three years as a postdoctoral research associate in the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Tech. Dr. Wood is currently writing a book with Morgan Reynolds on the physical evidence explaining the events on 9/11.

Morgan Reynolds is not mentioned as a coauthor on Wood's page today. But maybe he is mentioned in the book, which I don't yet have.

Searching around for clues, I stumbled on Hufschmid's page 'More on Michael Zebuhr's murder'. I know, he is a suspicious character not to be trusted, and the article for the most part looks to me like disinfo, but he does point out some interesting things:

_http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/MoreOnMichaelZebuhr.html

Some important points to keep in mind:

• Professor Judy Wood, Morgan Reynolds, and Professor Steven Jones were among the first and primary members of the Scholars For 9/11 Truth.

• Professor Judy Wood was one of Michael Zebuhr's professors.

• In August 2006 Professor Wood and Morgan Reynolds quit the Scholars For 9/11 Truth. [remember, Michael dies in March, 2006]

• Professor Wood and Morgan Reynolds are trying to discredit the work of Professor Steven Jones.

[...]

In February 2006, Professor Judy Wood and her student Michael Zebuhr conducted an experiment to determine if Professor Steven Jones was correct that molten aluminum would appear silvery at high temperatures. [...] Their experiment proves that molten aluminum does indeed glow when melted, and that Professor Jones is incorrect when he says molten aluminum appears silvery.
[Hufschmid then goes on saying how this experiment is deceptive, clearly taking the side of Jones]

[...]

The people who are most dangerous to a criminal network are the people who have inside information about the network.

If Zebuhr had figured out that the Scholars For 9/11 Truth was part of the criminal network, and if he had inside information about who was influencing Professor Wood, the Scholars For 9/11 Truth may have decided that it is better to take the risk of murdering him than to take the risk of being exposed by him.

It does seem a little bit suspicious that Wood and Zebuhr supposedly sent their expose email to Jones on 1st of March, and then Michael is killed a couple of weeks later on the 18th.

I've been wondering, why then would people like Pete Santilli want to promote Wood's book? One of the reasons I can come up with, is that at the very least there is something in that book - discovered by somebody (maybe Michael?) - that needs to be discredited. And if they "tar" themselves with Wood, and at the same time act as 'conspiracy idiots' plus manipulating Wood so she will appear crazy, they'll drag down the whole thing. Or, maybe it's as simple as Wood's book being the hot item in the 911-circles right now, they just want a piece of the fame?

 

[aragorn]

Question: I don't have the book, so I can't check myself. Is Michael Zebuhr cited or credited anywhere in Wood's book?
In the Zebuhr forum thread, Dick Eastman made reference to Zebuhr contributing to Wood's research on ( use of?) directed energy weapons.
Considering the alleged close friendship/relationship that they supposedly had, I wonder how much, if any, of Zebuhr's work made it into that book.
Of course, it's unlikely we'll ever find out the answer to that, but I do wonder if he was cited/credited at all.
Taking into account his status as an 'active student member' of Scholars for 911 Truth at the time, he may have been VERY involved in compiling the research for - or with - Wood for the book.

I've also been wondering if some of Zebuhr's possible findings didn't make it into the book (because he couldn't finish what he started) - maybe a smoking gun of WHO did it? The mantra of how one should just focuse on "WHAT happened" mayb a clue? He does seem to have been quite an extraordinary gifted person:

Zebuhr is a 1998 graduate of Buckhannon-Upshur High School and 2005 graduate of Davis & Elkins College with a bachelor of science degree in mathematics and chemistry. He was currently enrolled at Clemson University in South Carolina working on his doctorate degree in bioengineering.
[...] “Mike Zebuhr was a young man of rare personal and intellectual qualities,” said D&E President Tom Mann.

While a D&E student, Zebuhr was listed frequently on the dean’s list and was included in Who’s Who in American Universities and Colleges in 2005. He received the Mathematics, Computer Science and Physics Department Award in 2004, the Chemistry Department Award in 2005 and the faculty’s Senior Award in 2005. This award is granted to a senior student, with at least a 3.8 grade point average, who has achieved excellence in a wide range of academic areas and in the quality of personal and intellectual leadership provided. During his junior year, Zebuhr was named a Distinguished Scholar by the Appalachian College Association and received an Appalachian College Association Scholarship.

He also earned The American Chemical Society’s Polymer Education Award in Organic Chemistry in 2004 and an undergraduate research internship at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida funded by the National Science Foundation in 2003. He was also a four-year member of the college’s ski team and was active in the Computer Club, Student Assembly, the Mountain Bike Club and Alpha Psi Omega, a theatre honorary. According to officials, a memorial service will be conducted on the D&E campus at a later date, pending arrangements with Zebuhr’s family.

“Mike was a hard working, dedicated, self motivated student,” said Dr. Lisa Benson, Zebuhr’s advisor at Clemson. “He appreciated every opportunity and took nothing for granted. That kind of student is a joy to work with.”

Benson, the education director at the Center for Advanced Engineering Fibers and Films and the research director professor at the Department of Bioengineering, said Zebuhr was highly respected by faculty, staff and students and was an extremely generous and compassionate person.

[...]

According to Benson, Zebuhr was interested in space flight and had spoken of becoming a university professor.

“Mike was in the process of developing hands-on projects for middle and high school students with intentions of sparking an interest in science and engineering,” Benson said. “He would have been a great mentor for kids.”

“Mike was simply an outstanding students and a compassionate person,” Benson said. “We are all feeling this loss very deeply.”

He is the son of Strong and Richard Zebuhr of Buckhannon.

 

[griffin]

It is curious, osit, that U.S. Navy’s China Lake facility is mentioned there. If I remember correctly, that was the place (mentioned by many mind control survivors), where the most horrific mind control experiments were conducted.

China Lake is the US Naval Weapons Center in the Mojave desert. It's a large military reservation that has Ridgecrest, California as its civilian 'company town' located nearby. It is in a very remote, desolate area a hundred miles or so northeast of Los Angeles, sort of but not really on the way to Needles. I visited Ridgecrest briefly about 43 years ago.

A college friend invited me to drive to the east coast with him during a long winter break from school. It sounded like fun and I didn't have anything better to do at the time, so I went. We drove down the west coast to LA, then out to Ridgecrest, where my friend's family had lived when he graduated from high school. We visited one of his relatives, and we also stopped to visit the family of one of his high school friends.

My friend went in and visited with his friend's mother; I stayed in the car. His friend from high school, you see, was deceased, and after my friend returned and we got on the road, he told me the story.

The young man apparently had the very bad idea of trying to deal drugs there, despite the fact that it was a 'company town' for the US Navy and US intelligence agencies, especially military intelligence agencies. It seems that he tried this for a while, at least long enough for every three letter agency to notice what he was up to, and for one of them to lure him into the sting of a somewhat big drug deal. As my friend related it, the kid was in just about everyone's crosshairs - FBI, CIA, DIA, NIS - when he made a very bad mistake. He decided to rip off the buyer, and got hold of a pellet gun to pull this off. Long story short, his pistol was a realistic air gun but theirs were real guns, and they shot him dead.

After leaving China Lake, we then drove east practically nonstop, taking turns driving day and night through California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Tennessee all the way to Charlottesville, Virginia, where my friend's family lived at the time, in a little more than four days, as best I recall now. We spent about a month there (I said it was a long winter break from our college).

His father was a psychologist working for the US federal government, which is why they had lived in Ridgecrest for a while. In Charlottesville he was the director of a school called the Federal Executive Institute, which enrolled high level civil servants who were serving or about to serve in executive jobs where they were expected to make good decisions that were not necessarily spelled out in rules and regulations. The students were people like the heads of Veterans Administration hospitals and other federal agencies. The institute's basic job was to deprogram them from going rigidly by the book and passing the buck to higher authority into exercising that higher authority with a humanistic approach. My friend's father was a practicing therapist of humanistic psychology, as professed by Carl Rogers.

My friend and I played low-stakes poker with a few of those 'students' once, and I recall that we won. I don't recall encountering anything about mind control, but as I was a friend of the family, as it were, it wouldn't have been mentioned to me, I imagine, even if that was going on.

However, China Lake is a very serious place, perhaps even as interesting as Area 51, but less well known.