Philip Gardiner, Homosexuality and Alchemy Disinformation

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Adam said:
As far as i can read Joda, he has just told you that you did not do your homework as suggested by Laura in the other thread. Moreover, you show definitively signs of non respect towards the owners of the forum.
LOL!! maybe you should move this thread to the ''Tickle Me'' section :')
I just moved it to the Work. After all, this topic can be discussed in 'religion', in 'esoteric christianity' and in 'alchemy'.

But then again, Tickle Me might be appropriate too...

There is a very odd story in history. It is supposed to have originated in the first century. We were never able to trace the story in literature. And that's a weak point. But we are begging for your attention nevertheless.

How do we know about that odd story? Our secretary (the one who gives our English a last boost and sends the emails to you from public computers) had coffee at the end of the eighties with the parents of a friend of his. They were shocked because of an incident that happened on television the other night. They told that (on a evangelical) talk-show somebody told a very strange little story. It went like this: The Son of God descended from heaven, saw Adam, loved Adam, kneeled down, kissed his feet and tickled (!) his feet. End of story.
From the Forbidden Letters part 2, email 11.:)

P.S.

Did you read that, Laura?

"Our secratary, the one who gives our English a last boost and sends the emails to you from public computers."
No country named here. No nationality either. He/she simply 'boosts' 'their English'. Three countries involved though:

We still were not able to reach your Forum. Very tiresome. We get page expired from 3 countries if we click on the Forum-button. We kindly ask you again how we can reach the mail you published.
;)

Well, let me just say that I have read these letters carefully.[Laura]
You apparently didn't.
 
This is taken from the Hanno Temming article (to be found in the left column):

There is no broad, light and safe path to paradise. It's the rape of the Resurrection and the terror of the Night of the Soul, a dark, narrow and dangerous path, to quote Jesus, that is going to do the trick. And no uninvited man passes the flaming kundalini-sword of Eden safely. But whoever does, will be overcome through the Great Work of Alchemy in the end. And once that is done, he will reign over the universe timelessly with Christ, his new microcosmic head. That is the core of the Gospel, the Good Message.[under Forum-name]
 
Hitch, it would serve you well to do some research on "Jay Weidner" before quoting him any further (the same goes for all the others you quote), because if you're quoting one well-known psychopathic liar and manipulator (Weidner), it only demonstrates your own profound ignorance in this subject and therefore the ease with which a manipulator like Jay can create the impression in you that he has a clue or that he is a "researcher" of anything at all. And although I am not familiar with the other people you quote, in light of your treatment of a known psychopath and his lies the others become sort of irrelevant as you obviously take no care to understand neither the material you are quoting nor the nature of the people you are quoting. In short, you do not care about the truth, what you care about is "opinions" and a lot of esoteric word salad. Read the website cassiopaea.org and potentially Laura's books (though a large part of the material in the books is free on the website as well) and you probably will not quote things like the above after you do.

Hitch said:
I think you are way out of order here. You cannot come in call a topic nonsense without demonstrating the 'nonsense' and then simply close it, just because it is nonsense to you. We are not at Laura.org.
If you came in here and said "Jesus saves and you're all gonna burn in hell if you don't convert!" and then quoted a couple of other people who said the same thing, this forum is NOT going to spend a second of its time "proving" to you that you're wrong, the topic will simply be closed as this very clearly demonstrates no interest in truth whatsoever on the part of the person who believes and says that. If you can understand the above scenario, and if you can understand (after some thinking) why what you said was basically THAT scenario, you'll understand why the topic was closed.

Hitch said:
What do you know? You have an opinion. Like the Paris 4. That is all. And this is a Forum.
Again you're wrong. This forum is not for opinions. If you're interested in opinions, it's not the forum for you. This is a research forum with intention to understand the truth. Read this thread about opinions for elaboration: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3925

And when you say "file a complaint" - what is your complaint? Do you know the story about a psychopathic thief that broke into someone else's home, slipped on a puddle on the floor and hurt himself, then filed a complaint and won? You see, we're not a court of law created by psychopaths and for psychopaths. Any complaint you have is about as valid as the above complaint of the thief, only its validity will not be assessed by psychopaths and will therefore not "work out" as you may hope. If you are interested in the truth, please read what has been said by the members and by Laura, think about it with respect to your behavior and words. This forum is a house, and you're a guest here.
 
anart said:
Hitch has been banned.
Damn, he was about to reveal the secrets of the alchemical androgyne and much more I suspect.
 
That's really the funniest thing I've read in awhile. I mean, quoting Jay Weidner as an authority? I haven't laughed so much in months!

Somebody sure is anxious to spread this Gardiner/gay thing around and since Weidner lives pretty close to John Grace, AKA Val Valerian, and Valerian was the progenitor of this kind of whacko hooey, (not to mention being "well-connected" gov. wise), my guess is that this is just another gov psy-op that takes in all kinds of looney birds looking for a branch to land on. And if that is the case, then it just adds to the evidence that Vincent Bridges and Jay Weidner were COINTELPRO to begin with when they began their "OP" on me back in 1999 when The Wave was going full steam and somebody had to put the kibosh on the truth being told in public.

The very fact that, from that time to the present, those lunatics have focused their entire lives on defaming me, or putting scams together that are designed as a cheap imitation of my work with significant twists to lure seekers into traps, that they literally have NO LIFE other than trying to destroy me and my work, just screams that what I have found, what I have written, and the direction I am going is the correct one!!!

Thanks for proving that, Hitch!
 
I should also add that Hitch is another of an endless series of specimens of the schizoidal psychopath. Geeze, how many are there out there? The big clue is always that they simply do NOT grok the fact that their ideas are over-rated and nobody is interested in arguing about nonsense. They persist in trying to FORCE people to discuss what THEY wish to promote and that's the clue. From Political Ponerology:

Lobaczewski said:
Carriers of this anomaly are hypersensitive and distrustful, but they pay little attention to the feelings of others, tend to assume extreme positions, and are eager to retaliate for minor offenses.

Sometimes they are eccentric and odd. Their poor sense of psychological situation and reality leads them to superimpose erroneous, pejorative interpretations upon other people’s intentions. They easy become involved in activities which are ostensibly moral, but which actually inflict damage upon themselves and others. [...]

Because of their one-sidedness, they tend to consider themselves intellectually superior to “ordinary� people. [...]

Their tendency to see human reality in the doctrinaire and simplistic manner they consider “proper� , transforms their frequently good intentions into bad results.[...]

...doctrinaire people believe they have found a simple solution to fix such a world. [...]

These doctrinaire individuals characteristically manifest a certain contempt with regard to moralists then preaching the need to rediscover lost human values and to develop a richer, more appropriate psychological world-view.

Schizoid characters aim to impose their own conceptual world upon other people or social groups, using relatively controlled pathological egotism and the exceptional tenacity derived from their persistent nature. They are thus eventually able to overpower another individual’s personality, which causes the latter’s behavior to turn desperately illogical. They may also exert a similar influence upon the group of people they have joined.

They are psychological loners who feel better in some human organization, wherein they become zealots for some ideology, religious bigots, materialists, or adherents of an ideology with satanic features.

If their activities consist of direct contact on a small social scale, their acquaintances easily perceive them to be eccentric, which limits their ponerogenic role. However, if they manage to hide their own personality behind the written word, their influence may poison the minds of society in a wide scale and for a long time.
 
Uh...

Seems there is a glitch or attempt to create another posting in 'Religion' on the same subject?

Odd...
 
It makes me wonder.. how could we arrange such threads, so that they would form a neat package of examples of how schizoidal psychopath starts, continues and ends his pathethic existence on this forum? As far as I remember we have quite a lot of such threads, older ones and more recent, scattered across various sections. Maybe those of us who remember in which particular threads such exchanges occured could submit them to one place, one "sticky" topic, creating a list of links. I think it could be usefull, for new members and older ones alike.
 
Yeah, especially the "I'm going to file a complaint" part. With whom??? The International Board of Internet Forum Overseers?

Laura said:
I should also add that Hitch is another of an endless series of specimens of the schizoidal psychopath.
 
Additionally, he ignored the main point of the forum which is at the very top of the Rules:

Forum rules said:
to create an environment for the stimulation, development and then the alignment of objective consciousnesses as defined and described by Georges Gurdjieff.
I guess he is totally ignorant of the work of Gurdjieff and the most ancient esoteric tradition (not to mention how difficult it is to find and put the pieces together and that I had help via the Cs whose track record is phenomenal.)

His ignorance (as well as that of the writers of those ridiculous letters) includes ignorance of the truth about "kundalini" as well.

Gurdjieff said:
"In so-called 'occult' literature you have probably met with the expression 'Kundalini,' 'the fire of Kundalini,' or the 'serpent of Kundalini.' This expression is often used to designate some kind of strange force which is present in man and which can be awakened. But none of the known theories gives the right explanation of the force of Kundalini. Sometimes it is connected with sex, with sex energy, that is with the idea of the possibility of using sex energy for other purposes. This latter is entirely wrong because Kundalini can be in anything. And above all, Kundalini is not anything desirable or useful for man's development. It is very curious how these occultists have got hold of the word from somewhere but have completely altered its meaning and from a very dangerous and terrible thing have made something to be hoped for and to be awaited as some blessing.

"In reality Kundalini is the power of imagination, the power of fantasy, which takes the place of a real function. When a man dreams instead of acting, when his dreams take the place of reality, when a man imagines himself to be an eagle, a lion, or a magician, it is the force of Kundalini acting in him. Kundalini can act in all centers and with its help all the centers can be satisfied with the imaginary instead of the real. A sheep which considers itself a lion or a magician lives under the power of Kundalini.

"Kundalini is a force put into men in order to keep them in their present state. If men could really see their true position and could understand all the horror of it, they would be unable to remain where they are even for one second. They would begin to seek a way out and they would quickly find it, because there is a way out; but men fail to see it simply because they are hypnotized. Kundalini is the force that keeps them in a hypnotic state.
 
Axel_Dunor said:
anart said:
Hitch has been banned.
Damn, he was about to reveal the secrets of the alchemical androgyne and much more I suspect.
Axel, rejoice - he is back!

Thank you Hitch/counter for your quite insightful writings. Thank you for opening our eyes that there is indeed no such thing as a free will. And while people like you are sure as hell that they can come to this forum (read: our home) and be heard no matter what, we small ignorant people can't and shouldn't defend ourselfs or choose not to accept you or what you has to say. Please excuse our profound stupidy, and get the hell out of here! ;)
 
counter said:
Wake up woman! Because it's about time you were informed.
By this time everyone here sees your "behavioral pattern", Hitch(counter), of which you are (quite understandably) completely unaware of. Your persistency sells you big time, and as it was already stated - you LEAVE for good.
 
DO SOME READING BEFORE YOU POST, it's obvious that your replies are based on ANGER and ATTACKS only, they explained you why they don't want to discuss this, yet you still keep on trying.

enjoy your bann.
 
Yes, deleted his post and banned yet again. Like I said, it is really amazing to see Ponerology in action. The best part is it's "all my fault" because I'm angry or whatever. Sheesh. How can you be angry at deviants for being deviants? It's like being angry at mosquitoes for being mosquitoes. They can't help what they are, but you sure do get out the repellant or the bug killer when they come around.

And, as Sandra Brown pointed out to me, the biggest red flag of all is when they simply cannot see that they are doing anything wrong even if they are told again and again and again.
 
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