Philip Gardiner, Homosexuality and Alchemy Disinformation

[kenlee]

I wonder why the COINTELPRO guys, and others groups or indiiduals who aim to throw seekers off their way, do not do a more through job. I mean they do such a "sloppy" job ( not degrading the work of research of Laura and others) that one is able to, with great effort, to assemble clues.

In a word it is stealth attack via "Third Party Attack Protocol."

Below excerpted from:
http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update-2.html

So certainly, we would expect real COINTELPRO operations to be attacked "officially" in order to legitimize them, but those who have figured out the real answers will not be martyred. It's way too dangerous. Keep in mind that we aren't dealing with stupid people here; they have "motivation masters" working 24/7 to manipulate the public. One of their ideas was the now well-known COINTELPRO "Third Party Attack Protocol." This includes setting up bogus groups and operations - sometimes at HUGE expense - in order to not only be a "Tar Baby" but also, when needed, to launch attacks against bona fide groups and or individuals with no one ever suspecting that it is a State Supported attack. The usual method is, of course, ad hominem attacks, spreading lies and rumors, sending letters and emails purporting to be from the attacked group or individual which seem to confirm the lies and rumors, or otherwise painting the attacked individual in a bad light.

 

[Iron]

Oh now i understand. The idea behind this COINTELPRO move is not to destroy the truth, but rather to desestabilize and discredit the researcher. Indeed this seems much easier than doing tons of adulteration in sources of information.

Thank you

 

[Prince]

This is from the Paris 4 Newsletter.

They are not sure themselves:

Dear Visitors of World Mysteries,
Ladies and Gentlemen,

As the Paris 4 we have been following the international discussion on the Forbidden Letters, as you may understand. And we feel we have to bring in some balance.
Balance when it comes to homosexuality being a conditio sine qua non for alchemy in particular.
Because we have seen many people worried on Forums about that part. People who ask themselves: can't we be saved, because we are not homosexual?

Let us just correct that here and now.

We have that information on homosexuality from the man we described in paragraphe 8 of part 2 of the Letters.

Here is the part.

"We (and that includes our gay man) in Letter number four said that we never saw the source manuscripts of the New Testament. So how can our gay man ensure us (because that's what we write too) that 'most of the manuscripts is found back in the parabels of 'Jesus' about the Kingdom of God'?
Our gay man was informed about the manuscripts in emails in 2000, just before his night of the soul. By a mailer on an alchemy-website. This man informed him that the manuscripts were packed with alchemy in farmer-allegory (like in the Gospel). But how, you will ask, did our gay man know so sure that his informant was speaking the truth? He didn't. But he decided to trust him because of a very odd incident. A very odd incident indeed.
For that anonymous mailer could tell our gay man about his sexual fetish. A thing our gay man had only shared with a few lovers. And it was our gay man who contacted the mailer, not the other way around. Because if it would have been the other way around, it could simply have been an ex-boy-friend having a pratical joke ofcourse.
Our gay man admits that he is, therefor, not absolutely sure about the theory on the manuscripts from 120 BCE, but that he trusted the man's statement, because he could tell precisely about his (our gay man's) deepest sexual feelings."

It was this man who said to our gay man that 'only certain homosexuals posess the necessary balance of the microcosmic male and female to safely conduct the kundalini-fire'.

We failed to point that out. If one just reads the Letters and part 2 as published, one might think that we had some kind of 'divine revelation' on this.

 

[Prince]

Laura is being quoted in the latest article on the Letters. All quotes are taken from this forum!

_http://www.world-mysteries.com/PhilipGardiner/forbidden_letters_20.htm

 

[Prince]

Laura, people are seriously defaming you on internet. A woman called Chandra Battershell even wrote:

Laura Knight Jadczyk and her husband Ark stole $150,000 in a fake house raffle scam in 2003 and escaped to France. The reason that she trashes Weidner and bridges is because she stole all of their work on Fulcanelli and doesn´t want to give them credit. In 2001 she wrote a glowing review of their book on Fulcanelli and the end of the world. A few months later she suddenly took the review down and began trashing them relentlessly. Soon after the trash job she then became an expert on Fulcanelli and now has written a book on him where she uses all of weidner and bridges material - again without giving them credit. Laura Knight jadczyk was arrested for attempted murder in 1971 for beating a guy nearly to death. Lincoln Lawerence is currently writing a book about the Cassiopaeans and he claims that they are some kind of intelligence operation, that Laura Knight jadczyk is implanted. I read a short excerpt from the forthcoming book and he speculates that she and her husband are a vacuum cleaner operation. That is they suck up dissidents names and send them off to some intelligence agency. He says that they recieved money from george Soros for this operation. I think Lawernce once wrote a book on Lee Harvey Oswald. Beware of the cassiopaeans - criminals, psychopaths and plagarists! [taken from godlikeproductions.com]

You should do something about things like this. If you leave things like this unanswered they only get worse. In my opinion.

 

[Laura]

Why should I even respond to the ridiculous lies of psychopaths? But, if it will make you feel better:

First of all, "Chandra Battershell" is a pseudonym of Vincent Bridges.

Laura Knight Jadczyk and her husband Ark stole $150,000 in a fake house raffle scam in 2003 and escaped to France.

Is a lie. Doesn't anybody ever stop to think that if I did that, there would be legal repercussions? And since there aren't, can't people figure out that it is a complete falsehood?

The reason that she trashes Weidner and bridges is because she stole all of their work on Fulcanelli and doesn´t want to give them credit.

Is a lie. In fact, I provide documentary evidence in Adventures With Cassiopaea that exactly the opposite is true: Vincent Bridges was pumping me for info like crazy the whole time he was writing their silly book and I was quite shocked, when I read it, to realize that I had been ripped off! Not only that, but it was all twisted.

You should also be aware that Jay Weidner has come out and said that Vincent Bridges ripped him off!

In 2001 she wrote a glowing review of their book on Fulcanelli and the end of the world.

Is a lie. I never wrote a glowing review of their book on Fulcanelli, rather, I wrote a bit about Vincent Bridges based on the lies he told me. See: http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/most.htm

A few months later she suddenly took the review down and began trashing them relentlessly.

Is a lie. See: http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/zaca.htm to see who trashed who.

Then see: http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/most.htm to discover that there is a big difference between "trashing" and reporting the truth which is that Vincent Bridges is a grifter, a thief and likely a psychopath.

Soon after the trash job she then became an expert on Fulcanelli and now has written a book on him where she uses all of weidner and bridges material - again without giving them credit.

Is a lie. 1) I have never written a book on Fulcanelli, but have written an article. 2) That article is based on my own research (which I pointed out above was stolen by Bridges) as well as collaboration with Patrick Riviere, one of the few living students of Eugene Canseliet, a disciple of Fulcanelli.

Laura Knight jadczyk was arrested for attempted murder in 1971 for beating a guy nearly to death.

Is a major twisted perversion of a very traumatic incident in my life: See: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/tallahassee.htm which includes a link to the following:

Lincoln Lawerence is currently writing a book about the Cassiopaeans and he claims that they are some kind of intelligence operation, that Laura Knight jadczyk is implanted.

Who is "Lincoln Lawrence" and who cares?

I read a short excerpt from the forthcoming book and he speculates that she and her husband are a vacuum cleaner operation. That is they suck up dissidents names and send them off to some intelligence agency. He says that they recieved money from george Soros for this operation. I think Lawernce once wrote a book on Lee Harvey Oswald. Beware of the cassiopaeans - criminals, psychopaths and plagarists! [taken from godlikeproductions.com]

Like I said, "who is Lincoln Lawrence and who cares?" (I suspect he is one of the many pseudonyms Bridges and Stormbear Williams use in their little internet games where they pretend to be different people having conversations with themselves.

Now, I wonder why you didn't also quote one of the recent posts to Godlikeproductions (a REAL vacuum cleaner operation) where someone who seems to know some real inside details posted the following:

Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans?

VBs comments about Jirka Rysavy are very interesting. Weidner, weidner's wife and their friend Russ have all written to me saying that they heard VB say many many times that Jirka was CIA and had been involved in the Jonbenet murder. Weidner asked VB several times for his evidence and VB came up with zip. To be sure VB was just jealous that Rysavy had not funded VB but had funded Winter, Weidner and others.

Including Laura and Ark that makes five people who have now told me that they actually heard VB say that Rysavy was involved in these things. But go ask weidner or his wife. They will tell you.

You see VB went to Florida and told Laura and Ark many terrible untrue things about his co-writer. He also told them that he had written for many national magazines blah blah blah. You all know the lies.

He did this because VB had no background at all. Weidner had a long resume and VB had to pad his out to equal his rival. He also had to lie to Laura to get her manuscripts and to steal the transcripts. I don't give a hang where Native Alien got his transcripts - VB was given the cd by Ark, he copied it and made it public. He is a thief and a liar.

BTW did you see that he admits that he never paid Weidner anything. He stole his articles and research and rewrote them into the book, never paid weidner and never had a contract. After this he then goes on to say that weidner stole everything from him.

A classic liar. A useless, worn-out piece of trash, that is what VB is.

Hey Stormbear

Have you contacted Montgomery County yet to prove that VB had a business DBA there like you said above?

Hey Stormbear

How come you haven't named the articles, essays or whatever it was that you had copyrighted by Aethyrea books LLc before january 2002?

Hey Stormbear

How come you haven't answered the the questions about whether you asked VB if he ever wrote those articles for Hustles, High Times, Rolling Stones etc.

Oh come on Stormbear - we know why you are not answering these questions. Because you already know the answers.

There was no dba, no business, nothing, just like Darlene told Crocker.

You know there were no articles written by VB. In fact there is no trace of VB doing anything but smoking a lot of dope before he met weidner.

But more importantly Stormbear, mister tough guy - weidner did nothing to you - ever. And neither did laura or ark. You got involved because you are a malicious person. You got involved because you actually enjoy hurting people you do not know.

And when Vincent Bridges pulls on your leash you go into a pavlovian response worthy of your violent past.

Stormbear is the real creep here. He has no reason to be involved at all, he made no attempts to find out the facts and he is completely under the control of Vincent Bridges. He has hurt many people who did absolutely nothing to him.

Hey Stormbear - did you know that VB told Weidner and his wife that you had a violent temper but that they had to all humor you because you were going to fund the fifth way mystery school? Did you know that VB told people that you didn't know jack about esoteric matters but that you had to be told that you were smart so he could get money out of you?

Did you know that?

VB is a liar, a criminal and a con artist. he has been given chance after chance to answer the questions and he refuses, no I take that back - he just piles lie upon lie unti the bullshit floods in all directions.

He depends on you lackies to believe his lies.

But I am not afraid of him or Stormbear. I wake up every day wondering how I can make their lives more miserable. They are the focus of everything I do. And I will not go away until they do.


When they leave I will leave.

I am investigating every aspect of this episode. I have talked to nearly everyone involved. I have given VB and Stormbear ample time to answers my questions.

We now know that VB acted like a psychotherapist in the 1990's. One of his patients was Paul Duffy who told VB all about himself. VB then came on this forum and told us what Duffy had told him in confidence. Now this would be a clear violation of the doctor -patient relationship except for one small detail: VB IS NO DOCTOR.

And there is no point in sueing VB. Ruysavy has thought about it, weidner has thought about, the Jadczyk's have thought about it.

There is no business to sue. Nothing exists. And VB hasn't had a job in 25 years - he lives off of his wife and mommy. So there is no blood in that turnip.

So this forum becomes the only venue left for his trial.

At the end of the day, I can only say that Philip Gardiner and that whole scam they are pulling on "World Mysteries" and the "Paris 4" is totally revealed by this affiliation for Vinnie and his gang of psychopaths. By this association, they have lost any chance of being taken seriously by ANY legitimate researcher. Also, please note that the article you reference says: "On the Forbidden Letters - by Paula Johnson Note: Paula Johnson is a pen name of the author of this article". In other words, it's just another pseudonym of Vinnie or one of his hanger's on. It's not even worth the time it would take to read it.

 

[Prince]

Laura, I don't think you are being very friendly when you write this:

Now, I wonder why you didn't also quote one of the recent posts to Godlikeproductions .

Or this:

But, if it will make you feel better:

I only gave an example. And wanted to warn you.

 

[Laura]

Laura, I don't think you are being very friendly when you write this:

Now, I wonder why you didn't also quote one of the recent posts to Godlikeproductions .

Or this:

But, if it will make you feel better:

I only gave an example. And wanted to warn you.

There's nothing to warn me about. This nonsense has been going on for over 6 years. I generally don't even bother to read it anymore when people send it to me in an email even and our general policy is to ignore it completely since it simply has no real impact on us or our lives. We run in different circles from Vinnie and his gang of poseurs, we live in different realities. Those people who read that crap and are taken in by it really don't interest us. The whole thing has become such a non-issue for us that we normally just delete any such posts as the above and ban anybody who posts them because it is obvious that they haven't read the material that is available on the subject and they most definitely are not at any level of esoteric discernment that would suggest that they have a place on this forum. So you see, it's not an issue of being nice or not nice. It just is what it is.

Bottom line is: Vinnie Bridges is a paid COINTELPRO agent and about everybody who can read knows it by now. There is no other explanation for a person having the ways and means to spend literally every waking hour of every day, and enormous sums of money, to defame a person who really had so little web presence at the time that what I said didn't amount to a hill of beans. Obviously somebody was/is really afraid of me.

Like I said, either Philip Gardiner is one also, or he has been taken in by Vinnie too. If it is the latter, that association is the death blow for any pretensions he may have to being a "real esotericist." The real ones know the score.

 

[Cyre2067]

Prince - what's your angle? You come in here copying infected material, ponerized to the max and then you suggest:

You should do something about things like this. If you leave things like this unanswered they only get worse. In my opinion.

To which Laura responded, (imho it should have went unanswered as anyone who takes time to research the material available knows the situation with VB and how cointelpro spreads this trash, etc etc) giving specific examples and links if you cared to further your own investigation and then you come back with more 'attack-like' commentary.

Just what exactly are you doing here and who's paying you for it?

Edit: Posted ~ @ the same time as Laura above... so i didn't she her reply to his reply when i posted the above.

 

[j0da]

Prince, you are one of those persons who registered around the time Hitch did. You posted literally few sentences in far corners of the forum, showed lack of external consideration by bringing up the subject which was already discussed and explained by Laura (raffle scam) and now you make much fuss about her remarks which were pretty much earned by your conduct.

You aren't on a "mission" here, are you?

 

[dant]

[Rats, I posted this before refreshing and seeing that this was already responded to! Sorry
but here it is...
]

Prince:

I think you are taking this a bit too personal. Since it was you who "wanted to warn", it is you
who is not informed of the full story and had you read everything already posted here
and elsewhere, she was being nice by hinting that you ought to read up on these thing
before thinking that you had to warn her on this matter.

Sometimes these hints can be jarring or eye-opening and it all depends on your emotions just
how you might read "But, if it will make you feel better:" but personally I think it was apt.

As for "Now, I wonder why you didn't also quote one of the recent posts to Godlikeproductions ."

MANY readers such as yourself keep implying that she was not fully aware (she is) and yet she took
(her precious) time to explain it to you but more importantly (I think) is to remind her readers to
understand the ramifications of the cointelpro/"Third Party Attack Protocol" when one decides to
go against these slimy STS operators.

The bottom line is that the VB issue keeps cropping up from those who do not know the full story.

Perhaps you should read everything posted on this site and her other sites to become more informed
before rehashing this and other stuff already discussed.

Read @ http://www.cassiopaea.org/
The Wave
The Cassiopaea Experiment
Adventures with Cassiopaea

OSIT.

 

[Laura]

The bottom line is that the VB issue keeps cropping up from those who do not know the full story.

Or those with an agenda.

And yeah, I took the time to respond today mainly because I was giving the benefit of the doubt to "Prince." But, like Cyre says, it really doesn't deserve any response.

 

[Beau]

Laura, I don't think you are being very friendly when you write this:

Now, I wonder why you didn't also quote one of the recent posts to Godlikeproductions .

Or this:

But, if it will make you feel better:

I only gave an example. And wanted to warn you.

Quit whining Prince. If you really were sincere in trying to help then you wouldn't be crowing about some unfriendliness that I can't even notice. You are either here with an agenda or you are severely misinformed and it would do you good to read the links Laura posted. Read, then post. Otherwise you are just creating noise.

 

[Laura]

I only gave an example. And wanted to warn you.

You know, when I read stuff like that it is hard not to burst out laughing. Oh, not at you, Prince (or maybe not), but rather at whoever sent you off to post that filth. Those guys still do NOT get it that all they are doing is literally making me famous for being the most defamed and attacked person on the web which makes anybody who is serious realize that there has to be a reason for it! They rant and rave and tell the most outrageous lies and all it does is make people curious and they come and read our material and figure it out instantly! Another distinct advantage is that they are magnets for other deviants and those with no discernment or essence, so that keeps those types out of our hair! If they weren't doing what they are doing, I would think I had lost my way.

You know the saying: "it doesn't matter what they say about you as long as they spell your name right!" I couldn't pay for that kind of publicity!

But that's psychos for ya! They never, ever grok why what they do generally has the opposite result of what they intend.

 

[Prince]

Just what exactly are you doing here and who's paying you for it?

???????

You aren't on a "mission" here, are you?

??????