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DianaRose94

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Let me be frank and say either way, staying in house or being outside it when the extreme violence is present in a crowded city, you are already dead. I read on these pages about stockpiling food and weapons and it is all funny and there is a lack of reasoning and logic in all these but mostly lack of knowledge of the scale of it that is the result of those prior two. These does not mean that you do not prepare as much as you can and with what you have at hand, and hope for the best but in most cases it ends the worst.

Without a community that has some security you re not going to last for long, or at least a team because only food and water will not provide security and vice versa. Owning a weapon does not mean much if you do not have skill that requiers time and effort and money, likewise alone without others that also have training and tactics you re not in a good position to be in. Even with all that chances are that you re not going to make it because that is life, and even after all that there is worse to come with the end result.....Maybe it is a time to accept that is the case. Frankly I do not see the point of living for long in such a world, it is bad already or frankly it was whole my 32 years here so the death is sometimes looked as a kind of salvation.
To be honest, it was my opinion to. Dying would be a kind of salvation. However, quite a few people on the forum seem optimistic or kind of skirt the subject, hence why I asked the question. But you're absolutely right about stockpiling and weapon and the same thoughts crossed my mind. In times of war, the main way people managed to survive is by either leaving the country or part of country affected by war or simply by waiting for the war to stop. Either options is closed to us. The violence will not stop until there's nothing left. So, yeah. Death one way or the other.

Also, one of my thought was what's the point of living in a destroyed world? Like what's enjoyable about that?
 

Scottie

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Let me be frank and say either way, staying in house or being outside it when the extreme violence is present in a crowded city, you are already dead. I read on these pages about stockpiling food and weapons and it is all funny and there is a lack of reasoning and logic in all these but mostly lack of knowledge of the scale of it that is the result of those prior two. These does not mean that you do not prepare as much as you can and with what you have at hand, and hope for the best but in most cases it ends the worst.
That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Let's say you have food, fuel, medical supplies, power, water, etc. all stocked up.

Great. Can you defend it when everyone else doesn't have it any? When you're the only house in the area with lights, electricity, clean water, and food, how long do you think it will take before everyone notices?

So then you get a bunch of guns and ammo, and you learn how to use them.

Fabulous. One problem: Do you really want to be in a position to have to start shooting hordes of people who will come to take your supplies?!

Thus, you will either have a good standing in the community and a good network and share what you have, or you'll die very quickly.

But all of that is rather 3d thinking.

Preparing for possible futures is fine, but when it becomes an obsession and/or driven by anxiety of what MIGHT happen, then you've lost your way.

What about taking action now to try to inform others, spread new ideas, and be the "anti-MSM voice"?

You might do this because it just seems like the right thing to do. You don't think you're going to change anything, really. At the same time, you can see how certain twists and turns come along that change everything.

The world appears to be going on a certain path, and then POOF! Country A becomes a sudden voice of reason in a world gone mad... Or maybe some crazy guy becomes president and certain possible (less bright) futures are greatly mitigated - even though everything is still not perfect and even getting worse in other ways.

That's vague and nebulous and it may seem like it's not going to feed you, but somehow it does.

But there are two things required: a group of people to help you see things accurately (and you them), and a calm, centered, NOT hysterical ability to view what IS as it changes day by day, hour by hour.

Q: (L) You once said that the wave was something like "hyperkinetic sensate". And I've often wondered if that means that it's something that massively amplifies whatever is inside an individual? And if that were the case and they were full of a lot of unpleasant, painful, miserable feelings, repressed and suppressed thoughts and so forth, and something that was hyperkinetic sensate amplified all of that, what would it do to that individual? I mean, can you imagine any of us in our worst state of feeling yucky and then having that amplified a bazillion times? If it was bad stuff inside you, you would implode!

A: Soul smashing!
We already see this happening. A lot.

I hate to sound like the I Ching or something, but it's 200% true that if you follow that part of yourself that is small, you will get small results. If you follow that part of yourself that is big, correct, principled, and more concerned with the greater good in the longrun instead of your own petty day-to-day concerns and wants and desires, then everything opens up to you.

That's more like the true meaning of faith: It's not that you put your hopes in some God up there who's gonna save you just because, or even some "hero" down here who will do the same for you. Instead, you work to become the person that will be capable of saving himself and others. You work to help and "save" others, and thereby save yourself - but not in any hard physical 3d way.

That "faith" is the polar opposite of our iPhone selfie me-me-me world, where all we can think about is how I will survive, what about MY oh-so-important presence in the world, how can I survive, I don't want to suffer...

It's wise to prepare for possible futures, but it's even wiser to never need those preparations because you have done and continue to do the hard work of purging yourself of all that is small and petty as you closely and regularly observe reality and adjust your course.

None of that means that you will never die, or never go hungry, or never suffer in any other way. It just means that you will be able to choose your suffering to some extent, and that in the end it won't matter anyway because you will be able to say that you did all that you could to contribute to something better then yourself.

And then you won't be optimistic or pessimistic about the future; you'll just be there, surfing that wave, taking what comes, and so on. When you feel pessimistic, others in your network will remind you of the other side of the coin. When you are optimistic, others will balance that out.

In the end, our best friend ever is "educated uncertainty" because then we remain open to any and all possibilities. As I'm fond of reminding people, there is a reason the C's said, "Learn to think in unlimited terms."
 

Corvus

Jedi Council Member
Also, one of my thought was what's the point of living in a destroyed world? Like what's enjoyable about that?
Maybe it has to be meaningful, helping those in a need and building a benevolent community, but also this does not hold a good record through the eyes of history because most tend to end on other side by fear, manipulation, choice, etc...so those in minority never have a good time, there is no point, only if it is maybe more a question of sacrifice to help, love of close ones and personal growth, then there is no choice either. I have a respnsibility to my mother, sister and her two children however our relations are strained to defend them as long and as best I can.
 
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Corvus

Jedi Council Member
I hate to sound like the I Ching or something, but it's 200% true that if you follow that part of yourself that is small, you will get small results. If you follow that part of yourself that is big, correct, principled, and more concerned with the greater good in the longrun instead of your own petty day-to-day concerns and wants and desires, then everything opens up to you.

That's more like the true meaning of faith: It's not that you put your hopes in some God up there who's gonna save you just because, or even some "hero" down here who will do the same for you. Instead, you work to become the person that will be capable of saving himself and others. You work to help and "save" others, and thereby save yourself - but not in any hard physical 3d way.

That "faith" is the polar opposite of our iPhone selfie me-me-me world, where all we can think about is how I will survive, what about MY oh-so-important presence in the world, how can I survive, I don't want to suffer...

It's wise to prepare for possible futures, but it's even wiser to never need those preparations because you have done and continue to do the hard work of purging yourself of all that is small and petty as you closely and regularly observe reality and adjust your course.

None of that means that you will never die, or never go hungry, or never suffer in any other way. It just means that you will be able to choose your suffering to some extent, and that in the end it won't matter anyway because you will be able to say that you did all that you could to contribute to something better then yourself.
I agree with what you wrote, words of wisdom pointing what really matters, many people concentrate on surviving but it has no point when you re on the inside dead and dieying, choosing dust over gold. Thanks.
 

Julius

Jedi
That's vague and nebulous and it may seem like it's not going to feed you, but somehow it does.
Like a seed of something 'new', you remember you have some other option to BE.

It's wise to prepare for possible futures, but it's even wiser to never need those preparations because you have done and continue to do the hard work of purging yourself of all that is small and petty as you closely and regularly observe reality and adjust your course.
If you pay in advance, there is a big chance that you can choose how to pay.
 
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