Re: Pro-China bias on SOTT?
Just like Russia, China is going through changes:
Bobo08 said:
hlat said:
I'm probably suffering cognitive dissonance because it is quite obvious to me that the Chinese regime is a psychopathic one, on one hand, and yet on the other hand, intelligent and thoughtful people are saying the Chinese government is more or less objective.
I notice that throughout this thread we are talking about "Chinese government" as if it is one single consistent regime throughout its history from 1949 until now. I don't think it is the case. The Chinese government has changed substantially throughout the years, through subtle and not so subtle internal coups. So it is necessary to qualify which government we are talking about.
I agree that the early Chinese government, at least up to the early 1970s, is psychopathic. The government of Vietnam, where I'm from, copied many of its policies from China and this is one very dark period in our history, not even counting the war with America.
But I also think that recent governments, both in China and Vietnam, are changing for the better. How do they do that? I don't know. But it is a good thing that they could do it without any (or much) bloodshed.
When I say changing for the better, I'm not under illusion that everything suddenly becomes perfect. There's still a lot of corruption, lying, manipulation going on both in internal and external policies, simply because the old faction is still active and it will take a lot of time to get rid of those.
It is similar to the situation in Russia. But what is important is that it is changing for the better, unlike the US, which is changing for the worse. I think that can partly account for the position that SOTT has taken.
FWIW.
https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/so-china-is-in-on-the-ww-iii-scam-but-our-deaths-will-be-real/
Back to Corbett’s Research: Yale Divinity School had established an outreach program of schools and hospitals known as Yale in China in 1903. It was an intelligence program. It favored the Communists over the Nationalists. They hated Sun Yat-Sen because he wanted to develop China. Please note that today China’s industrial output is shipped overseas and is not consumed for the benefit of the Chinese people.
Corbett told us that the Skull and Bones Society through Yale university had an outreach program in China in the city of Changsa. Mao attended meetings and was made editor of their magazine the Student Union of Yale and China in 1919. Mao renamed it Thought Reorientation.
Except during the Carter administration, every US ambassador to Beijing from Kissinger’s deal with Mao Tse Tung until 1990 was a member of Yale’s Skull and Bones Society. George Herbert Walker Bush who was a Bonesman and executive director of the Trilateral Commission was our first ambassador to China. He had been America’s UN ambassador prior to representing Wall Street in Beijing. He returned to the US and became CIA Director before David Rockefeller made him Ronald Reagan’s Vice-President.
In 1973 David Rockefeller said, “The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.” It was David Rockefeller’s good friend Henry Kissinger who opened up China with a series of trips there in 1971 so Nixon could make a spectacular show on his visit in 1972.
Mao had seriously harmed China with his Great Leap Forward and his Cultural Revolution. But Wall Street had a plan. Michel Chossudovsky wrote:
“The 1979 visit of Deng Xiaoping to the US was followed in June 1980 by the equally significant encounter in Wall Street of Rong Yiren, chairman of CITIC (China International Trust & Investment Corp), and David Rockefeller. The meeting, held in the penthouse of the Chase Manhattan Bank complex, was attended by senior executives of close to 300 major US corporations. A major agreement was reached between Chase, CITIC, and the Bank of China, involving the exchange of specialists and technical personnel to ‘identify and define those areas of the Chinese economy most susceptible to American technology and capital infusion’.”
We find this in December 27th 2012 ‘Bloomberg Report – Heirs of Mao’s Comrades Rise as New Capitalist Nobility’.
This is a fascinating story about a group that was known as ‘The Eight Immortals’ and yes, I am not making that up they’re known as ‘The Immortals’, and this is a group, a new class of people who have risen, that were connected to eight people specifically, who survived the Cultural Revolution of Mao and were in high-ranking positions in the Chinese Communist Party to start implementing a very different agenda from Mao’s agenda, in the reign of Deng Xiaoping. So picking up from that article:
“The people generally known as the Eight Immortals are now all dead, though all but three lived into their 90s. Their stature in China is on a par with that of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in the U.S. They are:
Deng Xiaoping;
General Wang, who fed Mao’s troops;
Chen Yun, who took charge of the economy when Mao assumed power in 1949;
Li Xiannian, who was instrumental in the plot that ended the Cultural Revolution;
Peng Zhen, who helped rebuild China’s legal system in the 1980s;
Song Renqiong, the Party personnel chief who oversaw the rehabilitation of purged cadres after the Cultural Revolution;
President Yang, who backed Deng’s order to carry out the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown and
Bo Yibo, a former vice premier and the last of the Immortals to die, at 98, in 2007.
The heirs of these 8 men run modern China.
