Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

An exchange between Putin and his spy chief Sergey Naryshkin 'went viral' this week to spread the message that Putin publicly bullied his government ministers into going along with his plans for Ukraine.


Aside from the fact that all the other exchanges went smoothly (and the fact that you'll NEVER see a cabinet meeting at which ministers make decisions of historical importance broadcast on Western TV), there's something else to note about why this exchange stands out.

Russia's central intelligence director, of all people, should know that the topic at hand is recognition of Luhansk and Donetsk, not accession into Russia (not yet anyway). Did he just 'goof' because he was nervous? If so, why is he nervous? He's been FSB Director for 6 years, and was Speaker of the Duma for years before that!

And why was Naryshkin not able to give a straight answer until Putin coached him into giving one? Putin didn't like that he said "in the worst case." By saying that, Naryshkin was suggesting that recognizing the two Republics would be a serious or "worst case" scenario. Putin and all others present saw it as a simple matter of fact, necessitated by the action, or rather lack of action (in implementing the Minsk agreements) by the gang in Kiev.

This got me thinking about Kazakhstan's intelligence chief, Karim Masimov, who was arrested for high treason last month as Russian and Kazakh forces snuffed out the regime change op. It's known he had business ties with the Bidens, though no doubt there were other 'ties'. I wonder if Naryshkin too has 'particular friends' in the West.‌ There are discreet links at that spymaster level that are not there at the political level.

Putin knows this, I guess, because he too knows the intel world. Check out that look he gives Naryshkin at 01:17...
As this was televised it is possible that Putin intended to get him personally to state that he was 100 per cent for the action, for two reasons
If he did suspect him having friends in the West it was to counter that for their benefit ( but I would not wish to be in the guy's shoes after the mission is over! We can check if he 'disappears' , or replaced.
He needed the public to see that everyone was totally unanimous and on board the decision.

The hesitation was a complete let down of the whole purpose of live broadcast. He could be nervous but as you say he was a seasoned speaker. So I feel Putin was right to hunch on hidden reservations, shown in his body language too. Even the job of top security cannot have someone who dithers when split second decisions are required and expected. So an embarrassment for him too at such a critical time and decision in Russia's historical decision.

It is also worth noting that Putin regularly insists on clarity of speech from speakers. Quite often we see him drilling down on them. And in his position he should not have to suffer fools. It is also to ensure no ambiguities etc. Of course he is a seasoned interrogator, which in his position is a huge asset, as we just witnessed. I was very impressed actually.
 
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Serbia rejects Western calls to join sanctions on Russia

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Ok, now Anonymous reports that the Russian Defense Ministry website is down.

CIA since the beginning.

Indeed. If anyone still believes that some home-grown hackers did it, I have a bridge...

Ria Novosti yesterday, after RT had been hacked:


Вечером в четверг с затруднениями также работали сайты Кремля, российского правительства, Госдумы и Совета Федерации. Пресс-секретарь президента Дмитрий Песков заявил, что ресурсы администрации атаке не подвергались.
Machine translation:

Thursday evening, the websites of the Kremlin, the Russian government, the State Duma and the Federation Council were also experiencing difficulties. Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that the administration's resources were not under attack.

Anonymous showed their true colours - and their masters. I hope the time will come when Russia exposes the real doers.
 
Can you imagine Biden publicly doing that to the director of the FBI? I mean besides the fact that Biden can hardly make a coherent sentence.
I can easily imagine Trump doing it or any number of other eastern world leaders. When I see this so called civilized discourse to enforce political correctness, it reminds me of what Gurdjeff's quote.
"Modern civilization is based on violence and slavery and fine words."
 
No peace with the Nazi junta
We heard and read very assertive statements from multiple sources, how Ukraine must be de-nazified.. How exactly is that gonna happen?

One thing I want to know, how to root out the Nazi snipers from Kiev?
Remember first time there was a phone-recorded video linked here, earlier in this thread, of a truck with the light brown cover (tarp) carrying a half-covered air-defense light cannon in a convoy. It is shown driving from the right to the left:
"Russian forces are moving toward Kiev" or something was the title of that video a day ago.

Then there is a new video - probably linked here in this thread again - with this very same small military truck arriving into a city square - but now the light-brown tarp pulled almost off the very same looking anti aircraft gun.. The truck is maneuvering uncertainly.. on what appears a main square.. completely alone.. ?? ... then a soldier jumps out of the right door into cover, sitting in a fetal position and he is "motioning" that he is being shot by snipers multiple times.. At least the probably fake video wants to portray that image: how the invading Russians are being rooted out by mighty UkroNazi snipers in cities.

I was thinking that the Russian army cannot just hover over houses in Kiev with helicopters hoping the Nazis will crawl out and surrender in fear?

Also how exactly to clear out UkroNazi guerillas hiding in block-houses full of civilians, like in this [probably faked] second video. Shows people are recording the truck from the staircase of the ~5th floor of a block house. Beside the cameraman there is indication that maybe a sniper is shooting at the soldier in cover down on the square..

From Sott:
A secretive neo-nazi military organization reportedly linked to NATO played a decisive role in targeted sniper attacks and violence that led to the collapse of the elected government.

Does Putin and his commanders plan street fighting in Kiev? Going into blockhouses and pulling out the UkroNazi snipers with Russian commandos? When there are / might be civilians there in the operational area? How?
 
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Indeed, curiously Tucker Carlson shows on the following video, here below, a snippet from an interview where a US senator mentions about the same fact, that is, if Russia will lunch a cyber attack on Ukraine and a NATO member gets affected as well then the said member will be able to appeal to the 5th article of NATO and then What?

I guess will wait and see how things develop further since at this point we can only guesstimate what will be the next move of the West, they aren't very bright but they're unpredictable, a wildcard...

 
We heard and read very assertive statements from multiple sources, how Ukraine must be de-nazified.. How exactly is that gonna happen?

One thing I want to know, how to root out the Nazi snipers from Kiev?
Remember first time there was a phone-recorded video linked here, earlier in this thread, of a truck with the light brown cover (tarp) carrying a half-covered air-defense light cannon in a convoy. It is shown driving from the right to the left:
"Russian forces are moving toward Kiev" or something was the title of that video a day ago.

Then there is a new video - probably linked here in this thread again - with this very same small military truck arriving into a city square - but now the light-brown tarp pulled almost off the very same looking anti aircraft gun.. The truck is maneuvering uncertainly.. on what appears a main square.. completely alone.. ?? ... then a soldier jumps out of the right door into cover, sitting in a fetal position and he is "motioning" that he is being shot by snipers multiple times.. At least the probably fake video wants to portray that image: how the invading Russians are being rooted out by mighty UkroNazi snipers in cities.

I was thinking that the Russian army cannot just hover over houses in Kiev with helicopters hoping the Nazis will crawl out and surrender in fear?

Also how exactly to clear out UkroNazi guerillas hiding in block-houses full of civilians, like in this [probably faked] second video. Shows people are recording the truck from the staircase of the ~5th floor of a block house. Beside the cameraman there is indication that maybe a sniper is shooting at the soldier in cover down on the square..

From Sott:


Does Putin and his commanders plan street fighting in Kiev? Going into blockhouses and pulling out the UkroNazi snipers with Russian commandos? When there are / might be civilians there in the operational area? How?
there are many angles of that video... it is still not clear what happened, and if all the vehicles that are seen were part of the same conboy, it was said that they were Russian troops disguised as Ukrainians... what has been most highlighted on the networks and news (and the only part they show) is that one of the armored vehicles that was apparently in the convoy as a result of the chaos, rammed a car (the driver was left alive and was later rescued), it was said in all the media that it was intentional and that the tank is Russian, in any case, the armored vehicle may not necessarily be, because the sterla-10 model with anti-aircraft systems is also used by Ukraine, it is not seen that it had one of the brands either... There are also reports of that armed civilians are attacking each other. due to several factors not yet very clear in this chaos.
 

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