Yep, pretty likely IMO. Or in other words: “Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.”
Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine
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Yep, pretty likely IMO. Or in other words: “Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.”
happyliza
The Living Force
As this was televised it is possible that Putin intended to get him personally to state that he was 100 per cent for the action, for two reasons
If he did suspect him having friends in the West it was to counter that for their benefit ( but I would not wish to be in the guy's shoes after the mission is over! We can check if he 'disappears' , or replaced.
He needed the public to see that everyone was totally unanimous and on board the decision.
The hesitation was a complete let down of the whole purpose of live broadcast. He could be nervous but as you say he was a seasoned speaker. So I feel Putin was right to hunch on hidden reservations, shown in his body language too. Even the job of top security cannot have someone who dithers when split second decisions are required and expected. So an embarrassment for him too at such a critical time and decision in Russia's historical decision.
It is also worth noting that Putin regularly insists on clarity of speech from speakers. Quite often we see him drilling down on them. And in his position he should not have to suffer fools. It is also to ensure no ambiguities etc. Of course he is a seasoned interrogator, which in his position is a huge asset, as we just witnessed. I was very impressed actually.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
The Elephant is everywhere.
marktaliano.net
Only ignorance makes him invisible.
Ukrainian Armed Forces Openly Fly Flag of WW2 Nazi-Collaborating Banderite Fascists - Mark Taliano
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marktaliano.net
Only ignorance makes him invisible.
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uno
Padawan Learner
There are slavs / jews / semitic people in eastern europe. Neo Nazis are not fond of them.
AzarHyun
Jedi
Serbia rejects Western calls to join sanctions on Russia
Serbia has rejected calls from the European Union and the U.S. to join sanctions against Russia, citing its national interests, although its autocratic president did say that Moscow’s assault on Ukraine is against international law
balkaninsight.com
Serbia has rejected calls from the European Union and the U.S. to join sanctions against Russia, citing its national interests, although its autocratic president did say that Moscow’s assault on Ukraine is against international law
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balkaninsight.com
Indeed. If anyone still believes that some home-grown hackers did it, I have a bridge...
Ria Novosti yesterday, after RT had been hacked:
Хакеры из Anonymous объявили России кибервойну
Группа компьютерных взломщиков Anonymous объявила кибервойну России и взяла на себя ответственность за хакерскую атаку на сайт российского телеканала RT. РИА Новости, 25.02.2022
Machine translation:
Anonymous showed their true colours - and their masters. I hope the time will come when Russia exposes the real doers.
It also looks a bit like trolling of the Ukrainian president:
V - Vladimir
Z - Zelensky
I can easily imagine Trump doing it or any number of other eastern world leaders. When I see this so called civilized discourse to enforce political correctness, it reminds me of what Gurdjeff's quote.
lilies
The Living Force
We heard and read very assertive statements from multiple sources, how Ukraine must be de-nazified.. How exactly is that gonna happen?
One thing I want to know, how to root out the Nazi snipers from Kiev?
Remember first time there was a phone-recorded video linked here, earlier in this thread, of a truck with the light brown cover (tarp) carrying a half-covered air-defense light cannon in a convoy. It is shown driving from the right to the left:
"Russian forces are moving toward Kiev" or something was the title of that video a day ago.
Then there is a new video - probably linked here in this thread again - with this very same small military truck arriving into a city square - but now the light-brown tarp pulled almost off the very same looking anti aircraft gun.. The truck is maneuvering uncertainly.. on what appears a main square.. completely alone.. ?? ... then a soldier jumps out of the right door into cover, sitting in a fetal position and he is "motioning" that he is being shot by snipers multiple times.. At least the probably fake video wants to portray that image: how the invading Russians are being rooted out by mighty UkroNazi snipers in cities.
I was thinking that the Russian army cannot just hover over houses in Kiev with helicopters hoping the Nazis will crawl out and surrender in fear?
Also how exactly to clear out UkroNazi guerillas hiding in block-houses full of civilians, like in this [probably faked] second video. Shows people are recording the truck from the staircase of the ~5th floor of a block house. Beside the cameraman there is indication that maybe a sniper is shooting at the soldier in cover down on the square..
From Sott:
Does Putin and his commanders plan street fighting in Kiev? Going into blockhouses and pulling out the UkroNazi snipers with Russian commandos? When there are / might be civilians there in the operational area? How?
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Indeed, curiously Tucker Carlson shows on the following video, here below, a snippet from an interview where a US senator mentions about the same fact, that is, if Russia will lunch a cyber attack on Ukraine and a NATO member gets affected as well then the said member will be able to appeal to the 5th article of NATO and then What?
I guess will wait and see how things develop further since at this point we can only guesstimate what will be the next move of the West, they aren't very bright but they're unpredictable, a wildcard...
ApotheosisMMC.
Jedi Council Member
there are many angles of that video... it is still not clear what happened, and if all the vehicles that are seen were part of the same conboy, it was said that they were Russian troops disguised as Ukrainians... what has been most highlighted on the networks and news (and the only part they show) is that one of the armored vehicles that was apparently in the convoy as a result of the chaos, rammed a car (the driver was left alive and was later rescued), it was said in all the media that it was intentional and that the tank is Russian, in any case, the armored vehicle may not necessarily be, because the sterla-10 model with anti-aircraft systems is also used by Ukraine, it is not seen that it had one of the brands either... There are also reports of that armed civilians are attacking each other. due to several factors not yet very clear in this chaos.
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