Interesting reveal by Pepe Escobar.
I never thought Erdogan would maintain any side personally. But Turkey seems to be doing quite well out of all this regardless. AFIK.
I will share the actual transcript from the 47 minute piece:
NATO is going to come out very very uh banged up and I and if they can't
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beat Russia then what's the whole point of NATO that's the great thing because this is
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going to be uh crystal clear for the whole Global cells not only for the
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eurasians as a whole but for the whole Global cells for the Latin Americans for the Africans for everybody so obviously
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it will NATO will implode and a wonderful agent of implosion is
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going to be our friend sultan erdogan which who in fact is already imploding
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NATO little by little with his Perpetual hedging of bats you know it's it's
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fascinating this is something that even my camera list friends in Istanbul they
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admitted it yeah now okay he sucks but
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now he's playing it beautifully yeah they even recognized that in among academic starters the best academic
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circles in in Turkey they admitted and erdogan is very good at that and nobody
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knows what he's going to do next and at the same time he's posing as a bridge between East and West now he's
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suggesting Istanbul to be the seat of the table for the negotiations between
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Russia and NATO without Ukraine because he already knows that Ukraine doesn't matter it's a pawn in their game so okay
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you have four uh NATO's and Russia same table in Istanbul and I'll be the
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mediator can you imagine that yeah later might might even accept might even accept it
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it's really interesting over the past few weeks I've been quite fascinated
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following erdogan because he's kind of like the guy that can go in the room the NATO
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um uh NATO World room and then you can go outside and have like a quick smoke and a coffee and he says you know what's
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going on in there and and it's like an Insight I really get a kick out of it because he loves to do it I'll be back
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in two minutes you know he gets on Twitter okay and that's right and he said the other day which was an
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important thing and he was an interview with CNN and he said Russia wants a
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reorganized security Arrangement uh with Europe I mean we of course know that but
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you know since erdogan is a member of NATO he's pretty much saying yeah this needs to be done I mean and clearly that
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the Americans had made a huge blunder in just simply dismissing uh this will all
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together one other wild card that was not as important as the other one is hungary's Victor Orban so I mean you saw
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the other day which was a little bit interesting when ruchish the president of Serbia said oh Orban told me and he's
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allowed me to reveal this confidence that in 1999 NATO was trying to get
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Hungary to invade Serbia this is clearly now the timing of talking about this now
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is brilliant yes this is a it's an extra knock on little scoffing you know
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absolutely absolutely so yeah yeah exactly so erdogan and uh and urban are
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the two key elements for the this total disaggregation of them so what NATO is going to have in the end the three
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Baltic midgets uh the poles and that's it and everybody else will be thinking
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about something different