Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

[youlik]

Such a not scary-looking gopher says very scary things.

Exclusive of the "Tribunal": the Nazi from "Azov" told how he cut off body parts to the civilians of Mariupol. The next terrible details of the tortures and executions that the Azov people staged in Mariupol. A Nazi with the call sign "Fleet" confessed to personally torturing civilians by drugging them and cutting off their ears.

2_«Флит»_рассказывает,_как_отрезал_гражданскому_ухо

Ukraine escalates panic and asks Italy for means of protection

Italy, at the request of Kiev, will transfer to Ukraine means of protection against nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. They will be included in the sixth aid package.

This was announced by the country's Defense Minister Guido Crosetto, the Italian media write.

"This is very disturbing," the minister said.

Generators, blankets and other assistance to civilians will also be transferred as part of the next package.

"It's less informative than tanks, but also causes more concern," commented Crosetto.

Earlier, the Italian Prime Minister announced that France and Italy will soon announce the transfer of SAMP-T air defense systems to Ukraine that shoot down ballistic missiles.

At the same time, protests have recently taken place in Italy against Vladimir Zelensky's performance at the Sanremo Song Festival.

https://rusvesna.su/news/1676553816

 

[lilies]

Left: 304 (but it's very likely that at least another 100 of them went east-ward and perished)

"It has an order for 250 new Abrams and a second batch of 116 Abrams from the US"

Probably the main threat & risk here are the allegedly super-advanced South Korean K2 tanks.
The dangers of this K2 model - as you can see - are:
1. super pricey: means it has quality armor of secret composition and modern computerized targeting & "Skynet"-style integration systems
2. Lightweight at 55t, like the best Russian tanks
3. Slightly smaller caliber gun - at 120mm - than the modern Russian tanks have: 125mm
4. K2 has less range than modern Russian tanks
Comparison:
Polish-South Korean K2 tank
versus
Russian T-90M = improved old T-90
Latest Russian T-90MS
Brand new design Russian Armata / T-14 with lots of development problems ATM, partly because of sanctions & partly because being too new, needs combat testing, etc..

Russian tanks have somewhat better speed and bigger range, a bit bigger guns, but the K2 also has advanced computerized battlefield integration and secret armor systems..

Still Russian army has way better & already tested combined battlefield technology (many other shiny new & upgraded toys) + trained & battle-tested crews everywhere, than Poland. So Poland having these new, shiny K2 South Korean tanks poses rather a security risk, I think, and only makes Russian tank commanders hungry to test their mettle against the Polish K2 crews.. as the Russians have regards any famous foreign military tech, when they hear about it.

Couple of these South Korean K2-s Poland already ordered and South-Korea is immediately able to deliver. For the rest ~1000 Poland is building tank factories inside Poland and will build all of the rest of them there according to a combination of South Korean military specs & Polish Army requirements.

But how much integrity do the Polish "planners" have for building military tech?? Not much:

1. Poland had previously considered and rejected the South Korean K2 Black Panther tank:

2. by instead choosing to order 250 M1A2 Abrams tanks (these are the new toys) from the United States,--this order-- since has been expanded with 116 additional M1A1SA tanks, where the SA means the old M1A1 has added computerized icons displays pinpointing friendlies and enemies.. imagine when this system starts to produce "glitches"..

The M1A1 SA tanks will be configured with additional mission-critical technologies to bolster crew situational awareness (SA). This situational awareness package increases the M1A1 Abrams tank's fighting capability by providing soldiers with an electronic graphic of the battlefield with icons for friendly and enemy forces

But wait..

3. But rather than ordering even more Abrams, Warsaw is now getting a 1000 South Korean K2 Black Panther tanks too!

So it appears Polish MIC planners preserved their mercurial psychopathy, unable to promise stable & good decisions for the future. Doesn't look good for EU stability. Maybe a new Polish government will be more sound and agreement-capable.

 

[Aeneas]

Reading the article which @Possibility of Being linked to about the actual production of tanks, one gets the feeling that it is with US tanks as it is with US gold reserves in Fort Knox. A lot is only there on paper.

It turns out that the number of tanks in storage remained unchanged “on paper” with an increased number of military vehicles, which is nonsense, to say the least.


Politico’s publication also provides a partial answer to where the four hundred tanks with the formation of the US KMP “evaporated” in the end. To supply Poland with 116 used M1 Abrams under a contract from January 2023, the US will use the very machines that have been retired from the Marine Corps.

When the US says that they manufacture tanks, what they mean is that they put parts together from their stockpile of old tanks.

There is one more important point, which was emphasized by the authors of Politico, and which at the same time explains where Abrams “disappeared” from storage. American industry has not produced new tanks for a long time. And to manufacture vehicles for US allies, General Dynamics uses tanks from storage warehouses.

 

[JEEP]

Top Putin war official plunges 160 feet to her death from high-rise building | New York Post

A high-ranking Russian defense official in the war against Ukraine was found dead Wednesday after falling from a 16th-floor window in an apartment building. Marina Yankina, 58, was discovered by a passerby at the entrance of a high-rise on Zamshina Street in St. Petersburg, Russian news Telegram channel Mash reported. She is believed to have fallen 160 feet to her death. Her personal belongings and documents were found on a 16th-floor balcony in the building. According to a preliminary investigation, it is believed Yankina committed suicide. Mash reported that a few minutes before allegedly taking her own life, Yankina called her ex-husband and told him what she was about to do.

 

[youlik]

Ukrainians are like that... We have such an old joke: when the Ukrainian was born, the Jew cried

Ukrainians sell information about the location of NATO military equipment
Ukrainians began openly selling the coordinates of the location of NATO military equipment.

After it became known that the Russian side was ready to provide very impressive sums for the destruction and seizure of NATO tanks and other military equipment in Ukraine, it became known that Ukrainians also wanted to make money on such an initiative. As it became known, Ukrainians are now openly trading the coordinates of the location of Ukrainian military equipment.

Russian journalists found several ads in the public domain, which stated that for a certain amount, Ukrainians are ready to transfer to the Russian military and mercenaries the coordinates of the location of military equipment supplied by NATO, especially the one for which a reward was previously promised. The range of the offer is quite wide – from air defense systems to modern Abrams, Leopard 2 and Challenger 2 tanks, which are only planned to be put into service by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In the course of correspondence with an enterprising seller, it was found that the latter wants about 30% of the promised amounts for the defeat and capture of NATO equipment (about 300 thousand rubles – ed.) for his services, which is very acceptable at the cost of military equipment of several million dollars. As an example, the seller showed a retouched photo on which you can see a test vehicle resembling a Gepard anti-aircraft self-propelled gun, moreover, the transaction is proposed to be carried out through special services, which thereby gives a full guarantee of services.

Украинцы продают информацию о расположении НАТОвской военной техники

They try to snap back. And in Crimea (Nuland allowed it) and not in Crimea.

Russian military repelled Ukraine's attack on the largest thermal power plant in Crimea

Last night, Ukrainian troops tried to attack the Balaklava thermal power plant, which is the largest thermal power plant on the territory of the Crimean Peninsula. An unmanned aerial vehicle, previously packed with explosives, was used for the attack, however, on approach to the peninsula, the drone was successfully detected and eliminated by Russian air defense means.

According to official data, the attack was carried out at night, while the Russian military shot down one drone.

"Early this morning, in the area of the Balaklava thermal power plant, the air defense forces shot down a drone. There is no damage to the thermal power plant, it is operating normally," said the Governor of Sevastopol Mikhail Razvozhaev.

This is far from the first attempt by the Ukrainian military to attack Crimea using unmanned aerial vehicles, however, according to official data, none of the APU's attempts to strike at the thermal power plant were successful, which indicates that the approaches to the thermal power plant and the peninsula itself are reliably covered.

Российские военные отразили атаку Украины на крупнейшую ТЭС в Крыму

At least 7 explosions thundered in Belgorod tonight
The APU conducted a massive attack on Belgorod.

The Ukrainian military tried to strike Belgorod today around midnight. According to local residents, strong explosions could be heard over the city – according to preliminary data, at least 7 pops were recorded in total. Nevertheless, the Russian military successfully repelled a massive attack on the city.

According to the data provided, all seven explosions occurred on the outskirts of the city. Russian air defense systems successfully tracked the appearance of targets in the sky and were able to successfully intercept them. According to preliminary data, the destruction, casualties and casualties as a result of the attack of the Ukrainian military were avoided.

At the moment, there are no official statements on this matter from the governor of the Belgorod region, while the fact remains unknown with the use of which weapons Ukraine intended to strike Belgorod. It is noteworthy that the moments of the strikes on Belgorod almost coincided with the moment of the strikes on Kharkiv, where at least one explosion also thundered at night.

В Белгороде сегодня ночью прогремело не менее 7 взрывов

 

[Ben]

The Russian Offensive in Ukraine - Scott Ritter

#Ukraine #Putin #Russia

www.youtube.com

Scott Ritter summarises once again the current situation. If he's correct then Ukraine might as well quit now, and he advises Zelensky to leave the country permanently. He predicts that Ukraine is going to run out of ammunition this summer. There's lots of clips of statements from Western officials which proves that they know this too, but Scott also explains that many in the US military must have known this would happen as early as last September. He's full of scathing comments about General Milley and the evil of the current administration. He also talks about Nord Stream and the Seymour Hersh article. Nothing particularly new here but I do think the guy has a way of presenting things that are accessible to everyone and I think his main motivation is the truth

 

[Pierre]

Wagner Captures Paraskoviivka (North of Bukhmat) 4 min. video:

 

[Antony]

Dear Team,
The situation on the land differs a lot, like two different realities...
Here are three today’s comments which draw quite an opposite picture

War correspondent Vladlen Tatarsky criticized the course of the SVO: Our progress is not enough to win – this is not the occupation of some hill or beam. Victories are achieved by breaking through the front. They throw different units from one side to the other like fire brigades, but some reserves continue to prepare. There is a advance, but it is not for winning. This is for success – locally, tactically. Every day for a week we occupy a village. But that's not it. How long are we going to grind the APU? And the main question is grinding – they are also killing us. We are also suffering losses.


War correspondent Alexander Kotz: The complete liberation of Donbass may take at least two more years. Of course, we will not storm the entire axis of the fortified areas of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas head-on. Most likely, there will be some plans to cover this entire line of defense. This is for a long time. When you are "on the ground", you realize that even the operation on Artemovsk is still a few weeks, and in order to approach at least the line from Avdiivka to Kramatorsk, it is only to liberate Donbass – it is not this year, it seems to me, for sure. That is, it's another year or two, or even three.

From TG:
On the eve of Biden's Polish speech (+Zelensky) The Kremlin is trying to show the enemy a kind of restraining funnel of opportunities. Prigozhin also points directly to the possible regime of the WHO (counter-terrorist operation) in his response to the Finns today: "We are currently fighting on the territory of the Russian Federation. We have no plans to invade the territory of Ukraine." The question is whether the White House will notice and understand this hint. The speeches of "hawks" like Nuland say that the inertia of escalation in Washington is very great.

My comment: even reconquering Donbass is a hard challenge, not saying about initial ‘brave’ aims of SMO. Something is not right...
Imo, everything goes according to khasid plans-we are slavs totally stuck and butchered while west is applauding

 

[Voyageur]

Wed:

Significant russian development Northwest of Bakhmut:

Fri:

Wagner Captures Paraskoviivka (North of Bukhmat) 4 min. video:

They moved fast.

They have the transportations corridors and also took out a bridge. Many pincher moves now apparent.

 

[Antony]

Military correspondent Alexander Kotz: Russia will definitely not be able to do without the second wave of mobilization in one form or another. This is how I see the situation now: after all, the enemy responds to any of our calls, to any of our mobilization with his mobilization. I am in favor of even conscripts taking part in the SVO. I don't really understand why they are not involved.

Involving conscripts-the operation will change a status to war (which it is). But it will mean - confiscation from friends oligarchs of all strategic companies. Could it be possible in our reality?

 

[sToRmR1dR]

'Why was no doubt in UN's ability to start unbiased investigation to Nord Stream blasts?'

Russia doubts UN’s ability to act as mediator between Russia, Ukraine — Russian diplomat

According to the Russian diplomat, the more Western delegations to the UN Security Council meeting "in spite of obvious facts, continue to tell tales about Russia’s non-implementation of the Minsk agreements, the more people will see" the real state of things

tass.com

17 FEB, 2023

 

[f1esk]

Two hours ago. Launch of missiles from the Black Sea.

Targets for missiles:
Zaporozhye, Khmelnytsky, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk! Massive shelling continues! Explosions in the Dnieper!

In the Dnieper and Kyiv, Kyiv, Odessa, Cherkassy, Poltava and Kirovograd regions of Ukraine, there are emergency blackouts.

Colonelcassad

Так выглядит калибровка Украины из Черного моря.

t.me

 

[f1esk]

The suburbs of Artemovsk are literally strewn with the bodies of the APU fighters.

Kotsnews

Пригороды Артемовска буквально усыпаны телами бойцов ВСУ. @sashakots

t.me

 

[f1esk]

Dear Team,
The situation on the land differs a lot, like two different realities...
Here are three today’s comments which draw quite an opposite picture

War correspondent Vladlen Tatarsky criticized the course of the SVO: Our progress is not enough to win – this is not the occupation of some hill or beam. Victories are achieved by breaking through the front. They throw different units from one side to the other like fire brigades, but some reserves continue to prepare. There is a advance, but it is not for winning. This is for success – locally, tactically. Every day for a week we occupy a village. But that's not it. How long are we going to grind the APU? And the main question is grinding – they are also killing us. We are also suffering losses.


War correspondent Alexander Kotz: The complete liberation of Donbass may take at least two more years. Of course, we will not storm the entire axis of the fortified areas of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas head-on. Most likely, there will be some plans to cover this entire line of defense. This is for a long time. When you are "on the ground", you realize that even the operation on Artemovsk is still a few weeks, and in order to approach at least the line from Avdiivka to Kramatorsk, it is only to liberate Donbass – it is not this year, it seems to me, for sure. That is, it's another year or two, or even three.

From TG:
On the eve of Biden's Polish speech (+Zelensky) The Kremlin is trying to show the enemy a kind of restraining funnel of opportunities. Prigozhin also points directly to the possible regime of the WHO (counter-terrorist operation) in his response to the Finns today: "We are currently fighting on the territory of the Russian Federation. We have no plans to invade the territory of Ukraine." The question is whether the White House will notice and understand this hint. The speeches of "hawks" like Nuland say that the inertia of escalation in Washington is very great.

My comment: even reconquering Donbass is a hard challenge, not saying about initial ‘brave’ aims of SMO. Something is not right...
Imo, everything goes according to khasid plans-we are slavs totally stuck and butchered while west is applauding

Former criminal Tatarsky talks about changing the status of a special military operation...

My opinion on this matter.

I would also declare war on NATO, they got it. Wipe out. The whole world is in ruins! It's good that Putin is in charge of Russia's foreign policy, and not me or such military journalists.

I think Kotz is making a fool of himself emotionally, all these correspondents are not very smart when it comes to declaring wars.
A declaration of war against Zelensky's fascist regime would in one way or another mean a declaration of war against ordinary Ukrainians, which is unacceptable in any case, either from a moral or historical point of view.

This Kotz rubs his hands on the assets of the oligarchs, but does not think about what will happen in Russia itself when war is declared. In the same Belogorod region, 70% of the population are Ukrainians, there are millions of them in Russia. What are the consequences of declaring war? Many Russians have relatives in Ukraine.

This Kotz could have been imprisoned for calling for a civil war in Russia, but fortunately for him, he is simply stupid. Let him mind his own business, he is doing well, and let Putin deal with foreign policy.

Conscripts should not fight, professionals, volunteers, PMCs should fight. Conscripts provide rear and rightly so.

With regards to mobilization, I also think that the second wave is inevitable, but most likely in order to have a contingent to control the liberated territories.

Today I would take a break and wait for what Putin has to say next week. I think that in this whole story there will be a new round. Maybe the reserves will finally join the fight.

 

[Antony]

Former criminal Tatarsky talks about changing the status of a special military operation...

My opinion on this matter.

I would also declare war on NATO, they got it. Wipe out. The whole world is in ruins! It's good that Putin is in charge of Russia's foreign policy, and not me or such military journalists.

I think Kotz is making a fool of himself emotionally, all these correspondents are not very smart when it comes to declaring wars.
A declaration of war against Zelensky's fascist regime would in one way or another mean a declaration of war against ordinary Ukrainians, which is unacceptable in any case, either from a moral or historical point of view.

This Kotz rubs his hands on the assets of the oligarchs, but does not think about what will happen in Russia itself when war is declared. In the same Belogorod region, 70% of the population are Ukrainians, there are millions of them in Russia. What are the consequences of declaring war? Many Russians have relatives in Ukraine.

This Kotz could have been imprisoned for calling for a civil war in Russia, but fortunately for him, he is simply stupid. Let him mind his own business, he is doing well, and let Putin deal with foreign policy.

Conscripts should not fight, professionals, volunteers, PMCs should fight. Conscripts provide rear and rightly so.

With regards to mobilization, I also think that the second wave is inevitable, but most likely in order to have a contingent to control the liberated territories.

Today I would take a break and wait for what Putin has to say next week. I think that in this whole story there will be a new round. Maybe the reserves will finally join the fight.

F1esk, if you start talking about the past of these guys-you then should mention all of them. It is heard, that Prigojin - criminal, pedophile in 90s, chief of ...Even our head - was under criminal charges till after was appointed by Eltsin’s family/gang. For stealing Saint’s Petersburg assets in favor of pseudo humanitarian western aid on 90s. The info is all available-check it out if not scared of ‘dissolving’ illusions.

The point i am trying to make, that we were ‘pulled’ to this war, totally unprepared, economically, production wise etc. - still totally dependent on import of critical tech. If taking conspiracy side of the matter, earlier on in this thread i made hints on the roots of the smo.
I really wish that i am wrong, but as it goes, please kindly offer rational explanations.
P.s. the nuclear superpower, with 1or2 army in the world, as propaganda promotes, in a year can’t clear even Donbas. Not talking about denazification/demilitarization of Kiev neonazis regime.