Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine
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Wow, no doubt that these people are completely out of touch with reality! Collective psychopathology in full display. They aren't even acknowledging, in any way, the aspect of Russia's superior weapons, such as the hypersonic missiles.
This is like the inmates of a mental asylum would be sitting together crazy-talking about geopolitical solutions. At least, that is were these people would belong.
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
He can think all he wants, his followers dont share his "thinking". Not to mention million views on Gonzalo Lira's twitter.
Fact is that people all over Europe (and the world) are actually fed up with Ukraine and Ukrainians. Overall state of mind and soul from which we can conlude that most of Ukrainians will be "destroyed", as Russians calls it. Very few would even lift a little finger for them, and they (Ukrainians) can "thank" to the western "elites" in which hands they put their lives.
I doubt it is a fact "that people all over Europe"
From Google trends, there was this diagram on the search item Ukrainians
For Russians:
For Ukraine:
For Russia:
For Support Ukraine as a search item:
Support Russia is not a term:
The curves look a bit similar, with reducing interest over the last year, now that it is no longer breaking news.
When one goes into the search frequency, there are differences from country to country and topic to topic. The numbers in the table below, I got from holding the mouse over a country on the world map one finds in the search links, until a pop-out appeared showing the search ranking number. Higher number means the topic ranked higher in that country.
| Country-Term/Rank% | Ukrainians | Ukraine | Support Ukraine | Russians | Russia |
| US | 13 | 20 | 26 | 55 | 18 |
| Canada | 38 | 46 | 45 | 54 | 29 |
| UK | 25 | 39 | 45 | 61 | 25 |
| Germany | 6 | 100 | 14 | 13 | 4 |
| France | 3 | 48 | 7 | 8 | 2 |
| Sweden | 9 | 18 | 28 | 36 | 11 |
| Poland | 12 | 9 | 16 | 12 | 4 |
| Serbia | 8 | 16 | 7 | 39 | 13 |
| Italy | 2 | 4 | 2 | 9 | 40 |
I suspect a lot of searches are driving by school assignments, so that could explain some changes, over time.
Maybe it is too early to conclude. What if, to rephrase your position, very few in Russia, Asia, Africa and South America, "would even lift a little finger for them, and they" citizens of western countries, "can "thank" to the western "elites" in which hands they put their lives."
And to add in more spice, there was: 'One Health', ESG & 'Sustainable Development': Inside the WHO's 'Pandemic Treaty' -- Sott.net compared to which coming or not coming from a particular country seems of little importance.
While writing, there came this headline from a Russian media:
Seen in this light, it is possible that the support for Ukraine will take a turn supported even by the media, but the news may also be a ruse considering: 'Ukraine wants to intervene in Transnistria, even with the use of force' - Lavrov
'This is how Zelensky justifies the slaughter of Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut.'
www.rt.com
29 Mar, 2023
Zelensky explains why he won’t withdraw from key Donbass city
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky explains his reasons for defending Artyomovsk in an interview with the Associated Press
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
Google = fake. Any western news outlet = fake. Any western "public estimation, survey or opinion" = fake.
Did you look at the reasons?
What does this have to do with whether or not the video is fake?
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
Being fed up (have enough of something), tend to influence on people's thinking.
Thinking (not knowing for sure) is the main thing about this video. (Just as a lot of other thing about this war) No one cant say is it fake or not for sure. What is left is "thinking" (having opinion) is it or is it not.
People who are fed up with something tend to think negative about the thing with which they are fed up. So, that what I wrote has do to with the video.
I probably should have written, "based on the fact that it seems this video was (allegedly) geolocated to an area of Donetsk held by Russia, as well as other less conclusive evidence (e.g. a popular pro-Russian telegram channel apparently acknowledging it is fake, and subjective impressions that it seems scripted), Katchanovski recommends skepticism regarding this particular video." Would that have been better?
I think (
) I agree with your points. I just also think we should be careful about not getting taken in by fakes.It could be that this particular video is genuine, in which case I'm all ears for a refutation of the geolocation claim.
BHelmet
The Living Force
Gonzalo Lira? Connected to a questionable video? I’m soooooo shocked! This just buttresses my original assessment of this guy.
And It is just as likely the views attached to the vid are fake numbers as well as the # of followers.
It’s true people are getting numb to the Ukrainian thing since they have their own problems that are more pressing. Videos like this are designed to ramp up hatred, fear and loathing as well as people buying in to supporting all the money laundering.
And It is just as likely the views attached to the vid are fake numbers as well as the # of followers.
It’s true people are getting numb to the Ukrainian thing since they have their own problems that are more pressing. Videos like this are designed to ramp up hatred, fear and loathing as well as people buying in to supporting all the money laundering.
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
True that. But the same Katchanovski believes that Russians did the Butcha masacre.I probably should have written, "based on the fact that it seems this video was (allegedly) geolocated to an area of Donetsk held by Russia, as well as other less conclusive evidence (e.g. a popular pro-Russian telegram channel apparently acknowledging it is fake, and subjective impressions that it seems scripted), Katchanovski recommends skepticism regarding this particular video." Would that have been better?
I think (
It could be that this particular video is genuine, in which case I'm all ears for a refutation of the geolocation claim.
For the "geolocation" as the most loved argument of so called OSINT - its fantasy. The only way to geolocate image or video is to have picture's or video's EXIF data.
While it is in universal sense important is video true or not (because chossing to want to know that, we choose side on which are we), in everyday, practical sense only the effect it produce is important.
Also, willingness of people to see it as true, says of being fed up.
Can you elaborate? If two videos are obviously of the same location, that would seem to suggest either 1) they are of the same location, or 2) one of them is faked in some way.
Fair enough on this point. That's kind of what Twitter is, where the population polarizes into camps that tend to believe anything as long as it supports their preexisting beliefs and allegiances.
An excellent chat on the Duran concerning the US's latest dose of inane insanity - namely ahead of this September's G20 meeting in Delhi they are trying to bully the Indians into giving the Russian's detention and 1,000 lines saying 'I must not meddle in Ukraine', when there isn't a chance in hell of them being so foolish or disrespectful as to fall into the trap of joining in the bear bating.
Que Blinken throwing toys out of the pram and trashing the nursery!
They then move on to discuss how for so many of the pathocrats this hatred of Russia - and Putin in particular - is in reality so very, very personal and increasingly demented - with some interesting thoughts on how the Biden mafia family were shut out of the Russian feeding pool and hence why they want vengeance (down to the last Ukrainian).
The Duran may never get around to recognizing these a-typical Cluster B behavioral symptoms for what they are but what they do acknowledge as being the current state of things sure is straight out of the clinical text book - and it really goes to show how once someone dons a suit, wins an election and appears on TV, it never seems to cross anyone's mind thereafter that the seeming elevation to the righteous position doesn't of itself suddenly wash the likelihood clean that they're actually - and always were - mentally depraved. So now we have reached that point where a near uniform pathology, disguised by the flimsy vernier of an Armani suit, rules the roost in the west. What a show we have coming our way because the delinquent level of insanity and buffoonery of these types is still only warming up. Pathology at this level of psychosis can only end one way...
Bring on Nemesis...
EDIT:
For those who haven't seen it, I believe this is the clip recently aired on Saudi State TV that ridicules Biden:
Que Blinken throwing toys out of the pram and trashing the nursery!
They then move on to discuss how for so many of the pathocrats this hatred of Russia - and Putin in particular - is in reality so very, very personal and increasingly demented - with some interesting thoughts on how the Biden mafia family were shut out of the Russian feeding pool and hence why they want vengeance (down to the last Ukrainian).
The Duran may never get around to recognizing these a-typical Cluster B behavioral symptoms for what they are but what they do acknowledge as being the current state of things sure is straight out of the clinical text book - and it really goes to show how once someone dons a suit, wins an election and appears on TV, it never seems to cross anyone's mind thereafter that the seeming elevation to the righteous position doesn't of itself suddenly wash the likelihood clean that they're actually - and always were - mentally depraved. So now we have reached that point where a near uniform pathology, disguised by the flimsy vernier of an Armani suit, rules the roost in the west. What a show we have coming our way because the delinquent level of insanity and buffoonery of these types is still only warming up. Pathology at this level of psychosis can only end one way...
Bring on Nemesis...
EDIT:
For those who haven't seen it, I believe this is the clip recently aired on Saudi State TV that ridicules Biden:
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Nević Nenad
The Living Force
That could be the case if you have two different videos of one location, and you are sure for one video where it is taken.
I'm talking on OSINTs and their geolocation of images and videos. They "geolocate" images on two major ways.
First, they are looking for clues on the photos (some inscription, shape of the houses and building, layout of the streets, etc) to determine where it could be located. Then they search google maps/streets and similar for it. That works, but only for mapped and well photographed and documented places.
Second, IN THEORY, every little spot on Earth have different position in relation to Sun. That position determines shadow which object casts. One tree casts different shadow than the other, and that depends on the date, time of the day, weather. You can use applications such as Sun Calc to determine where on Earth is something located accordingly to its shadow. But you must know at least the date when the image was taken, and aproximate location. So, it mostly depends on how much creative and imaginative the person doing geolocation is.
Thats in theory. Now, imagine image or video of country road and crossing in the woods. We dont know date when it is taken, and we dont know where. For all we know it could be Oregon, Germany, or somewhere in the vast woods of huge country Ukraine. No buildings, no signs, not even a good quality photo with sharp shadows. No way of geolocating it. (I'm speaking in general, not for this particular video)
The only way to know where and when image or video is taken is by its EXIF metadata. Data that digital camera takes with image, where it is writen where it is exactly, when, what camera is used and similar. But, that also can be erased or faked.
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
BTW, I think that video is fake. They are too coherent and calm for such situation. Somehow listening them doesnt awake that feeling of horor in my chest as does videos that we know for sure they are real. Not enough stress in their voices.
