Hopefully that clown will do us all a favour and give himself a cocaine-induced aneurysm soon.
Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine
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What are we talking about? From the Wiki:
And the meaning of the equality sign, = is according to the Wiki:
It is from the Wiki, but I doubt any of the definitions will be far removed from that of a dictionary.
Russian news outlet are not Western, as I understand, but RT, will often quote one of the "Any western news outlet = fake" when reporting on an issue? Here is an example where they base their article on the Financial Times:
Given the equation, RT, quoting any of the Western media, ought to be in the same category.Ukrainian FM downplays importance of ‘counteroffensive’
Dmitry Kuleba has urged that Western military aid continue until Kiev achieves all its goals confronting Russian forces
FILE PHOTO: Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba. © Michael M. Santiago / Getty Images
A counteroffensive by Ukraine that has been much-anticipated should not be considered as a make-or-break moment in its conflict with Russia, Kiev's Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba has said, urging his country's foreign backers to maintain their support regardless of the outcome of this expected operation.
“We should counter by all means the perception of the counteroffensive as the decisive battle of the war,” he told the Financial Times, as quoted on Wednesday.
He said Kiev was concerned that the operation would not result in Ukrainian troops pushing Russia “100%” out of the territory it wishes to reclaim. However, in this scenario of underachievement, he feared, “some people may say this was the last decisive battle and now we have to think of an alternative scenario.”
The Ukrainian leadership has insisted that the only option it is considering is retaking all land lost by Kiev, including Crimea, before any peace talks can start. The government has also prohibited by law any negotiations with Russia for as long as President Vladimir Putin remains in office.
Zelensky explains why he won’t withdraw from key Donbass city
Kuleba suggested that following a counter-offensive operation like the one anticipated, minority voices “in Washington, in Berlin, in Paris, in London” will try to push for a ceasefire “along the lines of a Minsk III.” He was referring to the two Minsk agreements that were supposed to guide Kiev and its then-breakaway regions to co-operate in a stable peace.
The Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics rejected the authorities that came to power in 2014 after an armed coup in Kiev and fought for independence, following which Kiev sent troops to quash them.
Last year, amid the hostilities with Russia, former leaders of Ukraine, France and Germany – the latter two had mediated the Minsk deals – acknowledged that the agreements were really intended to give Kiev time to beef up its military. Moscow said this confirmed that the three parties had negotiated in bad faith, adding that it proved once again that Western politicians were not to be trusted.
During the anticipated counteroffensive, Ukraine is expected to capitalize on freshly-delivered Western weapons, including main battle tanks. Last week, however, Zelensky said his country was not ready to launch one, citing a shortage of armaments.
By the way, here is another survey, I looked up, which shows something in the same direction as the Google Trend statistics, but there is more:
Surveys can be attacked in many ways: Are the questions loaded, or leading, in what sequence are they asked, who is answering, are they representative of the population, are they honest, etc. However, since December billions of more Euro have been sent to Ukraine, new weapons have been sent, while at the same time, rather few people have showed up to demonstrate and certainly not enough to change the direction of action in any significant way. For the list of weapons, see:
List of military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War
Google is not always accurate, the western media are not always accurate, the surveys will sometimes only show a trend, but they are close enough to show that the support for the war in Ukraine has been really high in many European countries, just as the support for the masks and the medical procedure were.
If we are patient, maybe we will be able to track changes in the attitude to the war, even though it is possible the European Parliament will just stop asking, the media will stop reporting, the politicians and their voters will need to attend to something else. Time will show.
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
No. Its just fake. Not real. Lie. Literally everything in all spheres of life that goes public in any way, in USA, UK, Countries of Commowealth and countries of western Europe is a lie. Those countries are under heavy rule by psychopats, nothing they say is normal or true. You can see some grains of truth here and there, but just to be used for all nefarious purposes and contexts' The whole western "civilisation" and modern western world could be described as lie upon lie upon lie upon lie . . . .
Do you really believe that they can meddle with data, but they dont do that? And with Google as one of the pillars of modern psychopathic world. Hardly unlikely.
XPan
The Living Force
Embassy of the Russian Federation in the Kingdom of Sweden
28 March 2023
Following text was published by the Embassy of the Russian Federation, below translated via Safari/Apple, and then the original text. From what I heard was, that the Russian ambassador was called up to the Swedish Foreign Ministry (complaint/protest ?), due to what the Russian Embassy had/was/is writing via twitter (which I didn't check whats there)
Шведский шаг в пропасть
Swedish step into the abyss
Sweden officially abandoned the faith and truth that served it for 200 years of the policy of non-accession to military alliances - on March 23 this year, Riksdag, without waiting for the final ratification of its application by all 30 NATO member countries, voted to join the alliance. Of the 349 deputies, only 37 were against, and 43 preferred not to appear (apparently not by chance).At the same time, the central Swedish media, leading politicians and so-called experts, actively shaping public opinion, strongly convince ordinary Swedes of the same thing: this step is an absolute blessing and a cherished ticket to a bright future. Just try to doubt the rationality of the hastily made decision!
And all those who risk publicly speaking with the opposite point of view risk feeling on their own skin how selectively the main Swedish pride works - democracy and freedom of speech. Don't you agree? So, they are guilty of spreading "Russian propaganda", and support for Russia, as you know, has become the eighth mortal sin here (although Christian teachings in Western countries are interpreted very freely).
Having made a choice for NATO for the country, Swedish politicians denied their people the opportunity to express their will. Apparently, they were afraid that the results of the referendum could be different from the expectations of overseas "partners". After all, contrary to the narrative imposed in the media, the number of doubters is growing: the Embassy receives more and more letters from ordinary Swedes condemning the transatlantic aspirations of Stockholm and solidarity with Russia. We have already explained why we don't publish them.
Russophobia has been introduced into the consciousness of Swedish citizens for decades, if not centuries, and at the subconscious level, historical memory and resentment for crossed out imperial ambitions have been repeatedly. Meanwhile, while ordinary people were diligently instilled in irrational fear of the Russians, Sweden was gradually deprived of its foreign policy sovereignty step by step, preparing for obedient transformation into another U.S. colony.
It is well known that the country was drawn into the North Atlantic Alliance long before the start of Russia's special military operation in Ukraine. When a formal reason appeared, the fear of our country was awakened and spur, and the logical conclusion was the order from Washington: abandon, they say, to portray independence, we need the whole of Northern Europe to become a "new NATO front against Russia." This is the formulation used, for example, by Professor of the Military Academy, Lieutenant Colonel H. Edström.
The "strong U.S.-led West", which will act in a single anti-Russian impulse, is directly pointed out in think tanks, so loved by Swedish journalists (for example, this wording is used by the European Council on Foreign Relations).
"Now we are taking a step towards a safer Sweden" is the title of the article published on the debate page in Svenska Dagbladet of March 22 this year, authored by Defense Minister P. Junsson and speakers of Christian Democrats and the Liberal Party M. Oskarsson and A. Starbrink.
We would suggest another name: "Now Sweden is taking a step into the abyss." We will try to explain why this title seems much closer to us to the truth and why the arguments in the mentioned material are based on outright lies.
Let's start in order. "Democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights - Russia does not want to see any of this developing in its neighborhood." Obviously, "near the neighborhood" is about Ukraine. All of the above there, however, not only does not develop, but rather degrades. Democracy? An undeniable fact: the puppet regime came to power as a result of an illegal coup d'état organized by the West. The rule of law and respect for human rights? This can hardly be called the characteristics of a country whose authorities have systematically destroyed the population of Donbass for more than eight years, prohibit the teaching of the Russian language, allow Nazi marches in the capital and rename the streets in honor of Bandera criminals. Russia really does not want to see such "development" in a neighboring country.
"Russia is and will continue to be a threat to Sweden and the rest of Europe." A country committing terrorist attacks and sabotage on energy infrastructure in Europe is a real threat. Let's not name names, everyone already knows who we're talking about. And Stockholm, together with Copenhagen and Berlin, seems to be cleaning up evidence all this time that could indicate the sabotage executor.
"Militarily and geographically, Swedish and Finnish NATO membership will strengthen its defense capability in Northern Europe." The only thing that will strengthen Swedish and Finnish membership in the military bloc is the dependence of Sweden and Finland on orders from Washington.
"Sweden will be ready to promote NATO security in other geographical regions." Apparently, little taxpayers' money was spent on promoting the interests of the alliance in Ukraine (by the way, has anyone here wondered what and by whom is spending colossal money on Bank Street?). Now Sweden will be obliged, both financially and by sending its own military, to provide services to other people's interests around the globe.
Sponsorship of the Kiev regime and support for anti-Russian sanctions have already flown into the Swedes a penny: unprecedented inflation, rising prices, depreciation of the national currency. The rapid deterioration of the economic situation is served exclusively under the sauce of tricks of the ubiquitous "hand of the Kremlin". Another lie.
By the way, I remember how some media advised all those who were dissatisfied to send electricity bills to Moscow. So, dear Swedish citizens, this is not "Putin" but "Eur-Union-Natov" prices.
So write down the addresses:
NATO HQ, Blvd Leopold III, B-1110 Brussels;
Европейский комиссия, Rue de la Loi 200, 1040, Brussels.
Meanwhile, politicians are still talking about the same thing: "good news for the security of Sweden and Europe." Only readers who have finally lost the ability to think can only accept this for granted. It is obvious to those who have followed the security situation in Europe for the past 30 years: NATO, declaring itself as a "defensive alliance", at the same time constantly expanded to the East and came close to the Russian borders.
I wonder if Swedish "considers of peace" are embarrassed that they are joining an organization that has carried out more than 200 military interventions since World War II?
Remember, just recently it was Russia that proposed to sit down at the negotiating table and discuss security guarantees. NATO and the EU did not want it. For those who don't know: Stockholm didn't even bother to respond to the proposal of the Russian side, cowardly sitting behind the back of the EU Brussels. As a little more than a year ago and now, this issue is not even on the agenda. It is the alliance that wants further escalation.
After the accession of Finland and Sweden, the total length of the Russian-Natov borders will almost double. If someone still thinks that this will somehow improve Europe's security - rest assured that the new members of the hostile bloc will be a legitimate target for Russia's response, including military measures.
NATO Britain is already preparing to send ammunition with depleted uranium to Ukraine. Sweden, spitting on its own defense capability, is rapidly increasing the supply of heavy offensive equipment, including removing it from combat duty. Swedish volunteers join the Armed Forces of Ukraine, some of whom, by a strange coincidence, are active soldiers of the National Armed Forces.
It should not be ruled out that NATO's desire to fight against Russia "until the last Ukrainian" will lead to the fact that there will simply be no Ukrainians capable of fighting, and the bloc command will decide to fully enter into conflict. In this case, the Swedes will undoubtedly be involved, who will be sent to die for other people's interests.
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That is 37 plus 43 which is 80 out of 349 corresponding to 23 %. Of these 23 % how many would merely be against NATO membership, but still in favour of the military efforts of EU/NATO and allies in Ukraine? Do the votes reflect the situation in the population, more or less accurately?
There was in a news release from the Danish military [https://www_forsvaret.dk/da/nyheder/2023/nordiske-air-chiefs-vi-skal-have-et-samlet-luftforsvar/] reported and commented on the media:
f1esk
Jedi Council Member
Finn is cheerful, drank a glass of vodka?
And the Norwegian was brought something from Copenhagen...
Did you have an experience in your life where you got so seriously disappointed in finding out that something you believed was true turned out to be a lie? As a result, did you come to the conclusion that all that came from that corner of the world was a lie? Well, my experience has been different, there are lies, but above all I think there are many nuances. Sometimes we can learn even from fiction or find truth by deducing from what is mistaken.
What I said was:
Google can edit the algorithms for a purpose or censor content as they choose, but I don't think they (or the AI algorithms) always need to, always care, or even if they do need and care, always work as intended. Google may influence us, but there are other influences too: See Words that reveal a little about how we are being influenced - [a work in progress] where there are over 200 search items applied to the SOTT.net Supersearch tool with shortcut links and examples of articles where the words are used. No doubt, there are many articles about lies that have been revealed, but there is so much more. Part of the challenge is how we think, how we perceive, and once having perceived how we connect the new impressions to those previously formed.
f1esk
Jedi Council Member
Vladimir Putin signed the Decree "On the Approval of the Foreign Policy Concept of the Russian Federation."
From the new foreign policy.
Now, at the doctrinal level (unlike the previous one), the fight against American hegemony is spelled out. Actually, this de jure fixes the already de facto process of Russia's exit from the unipolar American world and the nature of the contradictions between the Russian Federation and the United States that cannot be eliminated at the current stage.
In Russian, the new doctrine:
kremlin.ru
From the new foreign policy.
Now, at the doctrinal level (unlike the previous one), the fight against American hegemony is spelled out. Actually, this de jure fixes the already de facto process of Russia's exit from the unipolar American world and the nature of the contradictions between the Russian Federation and the United States that cannot be eliminated at the current stage.
In Russian, the new doctrine:
Указ об утверждении Концепции внешней политики Российской Федерации
Владимир Путин подписал Указ «Об утверждении Концепции внешней политики Российской Федерации».
kremlin.ru
1) sovereign equality of states, respect for their right to choose models of development, social, political and economic structure;
2) rejection of hegemony in international affairs;
3) cooperation based on a balance of interests and mutual benefit;
4) non-interference in internal affairs;
5) the supremacy of international law in the regulation of international relations, the rejection of all states from the policy of double standards;
6) indivisibility of security in global and regional aspects;
7) the diversity of cultures, civilizations and models of organization of society, the refusal of all states to impose on other countries their development models, ideological and value orientations, reliance on a spiritual and moral landmark common to all world traditional religions and secular ethical systems;
8) responsible leadership of the leading states, aimed at ensuring stable and favorable conditions for development both for themselves and for other countries and peoples;
9) the leading role of sovereign states in making decisions in the field of maintaining international peace and security.
19. In order to facilitate the adaptation of the world order to the realities of a multipolar world, the Russian Federation intends to give priority attention to:
1) elimination of vestiges of dominance of the USA and other unfriendly states in world affairs, creation of conditions for the refusal of any state from neo-colonial and hegemonic ambitions;
2) improvement of international mechanisms for ensuring security and development at the global and regional levels;
3) the restoration of the role of the UN as a central coordinating mechanism in coordinating the interests of the UN member states and their actions to achieve the goals of the UN Charter;
4) strengthening the potential and enhancing the international role of the BRICS interstate association, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU), the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), RIC (Russia, India, China) and other interstate associations and international organizations, as well as mechanisms with a significant participation of Russia;
5) support for regional and sub-regional integration within the framework of friendly multilateral institutions, dialogue platforms and regional associations in the Asia-Pacific region, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East;
6) increasing the stability and progressive development of the international legal system;
7) ensuring fair access for all states to the benefits of the world economy and the international division of labor, as well as to modern technologies in the interests of fair and equitable development (including solving the problems of global energy and food security);
8) intensifying cooperation in all spheres with Russia's allies and partners, suppressing attempts by unfriendly states to prevent such cooperation;
9) consolidation of international efforts aimed at ensuring respect and protection of universal and traditional spiritual and moral values (including ethical norms common to all world religions), neutralizing attempts to impose pseudo-humanistic and other neoliberal ideological attitudes, leading to the loss of traditional spiritual and moral values by humanity. moral guidelines and moral principles;
10) constructive dialogue, partnership and mutual enrichment of different cultures, religions and civilizations.
2) rejection of hegemony in international affairs;
3) cooperation based on a balance of interests and mutual benefit;
4) non-interference in internal affairs;
5) the supremacy of international law in the regulation of international relations, the rejection of all states from the policy of double standards;
6) indivisibility of security in global and regional aspects;
7) the diversity of cultures, civilizations and models of organization of society, the refusal of all states to impose on other countries their development models, ideological and value orientations, reliance on a spiritual and moral landmark common to all world traditional religions and secular ethical systems;
8) responsible leadership of the leading states, aimed at ensuring stable and favorable conditions for development both for themselves and for other countries and peoples;
9) the leading role of sovereign states in making decisions in the field of maintaining international peace and security.
19. In order to facilitate the adaptation of the world order to the realities of a multipolar world, the Russian Federation intends to give priority attention to:
1) elimination of vestiges of dominance of the USA and other unfriendly states in world affairs, creation of conditions for the refusal of any state from neo-colonial and hegemonic ambitions;
2) improvement of international mechanisms for ensuring security and development at the global and regional levels;
3) the restoration of the role of the UN as a central coordinating mechanism in coordinating the interests of the UN member states and their actions to achieve the goals of the UN Charter;
4) strengthening the potential and enhancing the international role of the BRICS interstate association, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU), the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), RIC (Russia, India, China) and other interstate associations and international organizations, as well as mechanisms with a significant participation of Russia;
5) support for regional and sub-regional integration within the framework of friendly multilateral institutions, dialogue platforms and regional associations in the Asia-Pacific region, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East;
6) increasing the stability and progressive development of the international legal system;
7) ensuring fair access for all states to the benefits of the world economy and the international division of labor, as well as to modern technologies in the interests of fair and equitable development (including solving the problems of global energy and food security);
8) intensifying cooperation in all spheres with Russia's allies and partners, suppressing attempts by unfriendly states to prevent such cooperation;
9) consolidation of international efforts aimed at ensuring respect and protection of universal and traditional spiritual and moral values (including ethical norms common to all world religions), neutralizing attempts to impose pseudo-humanistic and other neoliberal ideological attitudes, leading to the loss of traditional spiritual and moral values by humanity. moral guidelines and moral principles;
10) constructive dialogue, partnership and mutual enrichment of different cultures, religions and civilizations.
All residents of the former USSR had this experience and I perfectly remember how it became free to breathe when the "guiding and guiding" ideology disappeared. Unfortunately, what they tried to replace it with turned out to be no better and sobering up from this imposed liberal "freedom" came very quickly. Already during the Yugoslav events, when, under the slogans of "human rights", "democracy", "freedom of speech", etc., the life of an entire country was destroyed, it more or less began to become clear how much all this
You write about nuances, and of course they are present, but the most important thing here, it seems to me, is that without looking at any nuances, using total lies, like the fence I wrote about here, terrible things are being done. The iconic figure was given a little higher.
And there are more candidates in line. The obvious ones are Georgia, Armenia, Moldova - almost everything has already been prepared there.
Все жители бывшего СССР имели этот опыт и я прекрасно помню как стало свободно дышать, когда пропала "руководящая и направляющая" идеология. К сожалению, то чем нам ее попытались заменить оказалось ничем не лучше и отрезвление от этой навязываемой либеральной "свободы" наступило очень быстро. Уже во время Югославских событий, когда под лозунгами о "правах человека", "демократии", "свободы слова" и пр. разрушили жизнь целой страны, более или менее начало становиться понятным на сколько все это
Вы пишете о нюансах и они конечно же присутствуют,но важнее тут, мне кажется то, что не глядя ни на какие нюансы, пользуясь тотальной ложью, как забором, о котором я писал здесь, проделываются страшные дела. Знаковую цифру чуть выше приводили.
И на очереди еще кандидаты. Из очевидных это Грузия, Армения, Молдавия- там уже почти все подготовлено.
Вы пишете о нюансах и они конечно же присутствуют,но важнее тут, мне кажется то, что не глядя ни на какие нюансы, пользуясь тотальной ложью, как забором, о котором я писал здесь, проделываются страшные дела. Знаковую цифру чуть выше приводили.
И на очереди еще кандидаты. Из очевидных это Грузия, Армения, Молдавия- там уже почти все подготовлено.
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Dr Stephen Hall
@stephengfhall
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@Glenn_Diesen
Do you have another source because I can find nothing else about it? After all the London gallery doesn’t exist & the Van Eyck Arnolfini Portrait - which is alluded to - is at the National Portrait Gallery. That basic lack of knowledge makes this source suspect.
Scott Rose
@rprose
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@Glenn_Diesen
It's complete nonsense. They've just translated something from RIA FAN. There are a few reasons why someone would post stories this dumb on a regular basis, and all of them are good reasons to ignore the poster
an d it does appear to be at the National Gallery, rather than the "London Gallery"
Jan van Eyck | The Arnolfini Portrait | NG186 | National Gallery, London
Jan van Eyck, The Arnolfini Portrait, 1434. Read about this painting, learn the key facts and zoom in to discover more.
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
I must say that I'm trying for my aproach to the lie, to be harsh and straightforward, but I do understand yours. But still prefer mine.
Regarding the attack on orthodox Russian church in Ukraine, an advisor to Zelensky had this to say:
They are not hiding that they liquidated the clergy simply for being likely pro-Russian and that they are intent on continuing. Chilling!
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
I would say that one of the main characteristics of the fascism and nazism (psychopathy) is not being able to discern what is normal and when to shut up your mouth. One trully believes that he is the god given.Regarding the attack on orthodox Russian church in Ukraine, an advisor to Zelensky had this to say:
They are not hiding that they liquidated the clergy simply for being likely pro-Russian and that they are intent on continuing. Chilling!
This only, without anything else more, is enough proof of nazism of ukrainian state.
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
Didnt happened. But the story perpetuating ad nauseam. Who knows how much "game changers" since then. And about 200.000 dead. People still buys it . . . .
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Ukraine Says Victory Against Russia Is Next After Winning Eurovision
Ukraine's soldiers are seeing the country's Eurovision victory as a hopeful sign of things to come in their fight against Russia
