"The preservation of Ukraine as a state is not included in the US plans"
Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev — about the safest places on Earth and confrontation with the West
"Fascism and Nazism are an absolute evil in a tailcoat or uniform"
— Nikolai Platonovich, we are talking to you on the eve of the 78th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War. It is no secret that in the modern world, especially in the West, many people want to forget this date as soon as possible, to obscure the role of our country in the Second World War. How do you rate such a campaign?
— An important outcome of the Second World War was the formation of the United Nations. The Soviet Union played a key role in its creation and took one of the leading positions there.
With the collapse of the USSR, Washington and London imagined that they had a chance to create a unipolar world. The Anglo-Saxons do not abandon these ideas even today. A radical way to change the world order in the West is considered the destruction of Russia or its weakening to a third-rate country under external control.
The 11th meeting of the contact group on Ukraine was held in Germany at the American Ramstein base
However, their wishes do not take into account the power of our state and the will of the Russian people to independence. Therefore, in seeking dominance, the Anglo-Saxons seek to revise the results of the war, deprive Russia of the status of a victorious country and permanent membership in the UN Security Council, rewrite history, make forget the heroic feat of the multinational Soviet people.
Attempts to distort the history of the Second World War began in the West even before its last shots were fired. Already at the early stages of the conflict in England, they tried to publish a collection of false documents in order to lay the main blame for the outbreak of war in Europe on the Soviet Union. Modern experts in the manipulation of facts without a twinge of conscience strive to equate the aggressive ideology of fascist Germany with the communist ideas of the USSR, and in fact use the stamps of their predecessors.
— At the same time, the oblivion of history in the West is accompanied by the silencing of the anti-human essence of fascism. How do you explain this trend of rewriting history?
— And how can they not keep silent? There are many irrefutable facts about how representatives of the Anglo-Saxon elite shared fascist ideas, financially and organizationally supported Hitler, and today they need to keep a "democratic" face. In a tailcoat or a uniform, fascism and Nazism are an absolute evil, no matter what clothes they wear. Nevertheless, in order to solve modern geopolitical problems, the Anglo-Saxons willingly revive neo-Nazi ideology. Such experiments do not lead to domination, but to a global catastrophe, therefore they must be stopped harshly and uncompromisingly.
— Some Western experts argue that global dominance is necessary for the West to ensure its own economic prosperity. It turns out that Russia historically hinders him in this?
— In this sense, you can even agree with them. Russia is a bone in the throat of the West, trying to create its own world order. More than a hundred years ago, the English geographer Mackinder formulated a well-known theory of the geographical axis of history and the so-called Heartland, that is, the middle land occupied by Russia. He argued that controlling the Heartland meant dominating the World Island, as he called Eurasia. Domination over the Heartland, in his opinion, creates the basis for control over the Eurasian space, and this in turn leads to global domination.
He also owns the idea of isolating our state with the help of the so-called sanitary cordon from small countries of Eastern Europe. The initiative to separate Ukraine from Russia, as well as other national suburbs of the former empire, also came from Mackinder. So many years have passed, but their goals have not changed.
— It turns out that Western geopolitics is still developing according to his patterns?
— The anti-Russian Western global strategy has not changed for centuries. I remembered Mackinder due to the fact that he was one of the first who summed up the theory under the numerous aggressive "crusades" of the so-called Western civilization against Russia.
All major campaigns of conquest against our country were conducted to eliminate it as the main geopolitical force in Eurasia.
Immediately after World War II, the United States developed a series of plans to destroy the Soviet Union, intending to subject dozens of Soviet and Chinese cities to inhuman atomic bombing. They were driven to this by impunity for nuclear terror against the Japanese people after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
"European politics today is in the deepest moral and intellectual decline"
— US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, speaking in Japan, talked about the human suffering caused by nuclear bombing. However, he deliberately concealed that they were carried out by Washington. Why, in your opinion, did he not condemn the very possibility of a nuclear conflict?
— Nothing surprising. Americans do not know what war is in principle. On their continent, the last battles died down in 1865. They did not experience the horrors of the blockade, destruction, famine, concentration camps, did not lose millions of people. Therefore, their elites easily talk about the need to arm themselves, inflict military defeat on Russia, and prepare for new wars. They violate international agreements and are unceremoniously preparing to resume full-scale atomic tests. Cynically, they decide to transfer the technology of building submarines with nuclear power plants to Australia within the framework of the AUCUS military association.
— But Europe is, in fact, at the epicenter of events in this conflict. Are there any politicians there capable of objectively assessing what is happening and rejecting the path proposed by Washington?
— European politics today is in the deepest moral and intellectual decline. A striking example is the Munich Security Conference, to which Western politicians gather only to read state Department manuals to each other.
Having created the mechanisms of the North Atlantic Alliance for their needs, the United States, in fact, occupied Europe. Put in a position of hopelessness, European officials have turned the Old World into an economic base for American experiments, dutifully fulfilling NATO's military tasks. And the NATO command under the control of the Pentagon directly interacts with the manufacturers of weapons, simply ignoring the official authorities of other countries.
The expansion of NATO allows Washington to put additional territories of Eastern Europe under its control. The algorithm of joining new countries to the alliance is indicative in this regard. He prescribes to swear an oath to the "master" by transferring the ratification documents not to anyone, but to the US government.
American political elites have different views on the future of the conflict
— The West brings theories and justifications to any of its actions. Thus, European elites took very seriously the concept of a "brave new world" by the founder and head of the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, which involves creating a prosperous life only for a certain circle of people. Is it possible to say that their actions are now dictated by this very concept?
— According to the theories of Schwab and others like him, the "wonderful world" does not apply to Russia and its inhabitants. In accordance with its plans, the West is consistently tightening political, military and economic pressure on our country.
NATO has deployed additional military contingents on the territory of Eastern European countries. About 60 thousand American troops are stationed in the region. The Alliance has modernized the military infrastructure near our borders, increased the scale and intensity of operational and combat training of troops. Supplies equipment and weapons to Ukraine, has opened dozens of centers for training soldiers for the Ukrainian army.
Falsely claiming the importance of the fight against terrorism, the West actively uses terrorist and extremist organizations against Russia, acting by the methods it used in the 1990s in the North Caucasus.
Western special services train terrorists and saboteurs to commit crimes on the territory of our country, hoping to instill fear in the population of Russia, undermine the constitutional foundations of our state.
When blocking Russia's financial assets, the Anglo-Saxons use templates tested by England back in the 1920s, when London shamelessly appropriated the gold reserves of the Russian Empire.
"The West is trying to destroy the foundations of the all—Russian and national identity"
- However, in addition to pressure on Russia itself, the West is actively using information and psychological pressure on Russians. What is his ultimate goal after all?
— The West is trying to undermine the internal unity of our country and people, demoralize our citizens, instill in them a sense of inferiority. Entire institutions in the USA and Europe are working tirelessly to create the most insane pseudoscientific theories. Substantiate the need to reformat the consciousness of Russians, their repentance to fellow citizens of other nationalities and faiths, who are allegedly under the so-called imperial oppression.
Several American foundations are actively introducing the Washington elite to their scientific works, hastily written by order of the US State Department and the Ministry of Defense, under the title "The Failed state: a Guide to the split of Russia." The main bet, according to the authors, should be made on creating and maintaining instability in the states neighboring Russia, as well as on an information war, including support for the "fifth column" and inciting internal Russian separatism.
The structures of George Soros alone, by the way, who gave out his fellow tribesmen to the Nazis in Hungary during the Second World War, annually allocate $ 800 million to create fictional videos, staged photographs and fakes in social networks.
The West is trying to destroy the foundations of the all-Russian and national identity, doing its best to impose innovations alien to us like gender diversity and historical revisionism.
— Are we able to prevent this cultural aggression?
— Russia's opponents are used to abusing our kindness and generosity. The apologists of anti-Russian ideas, nurtured by Westerners, propagandizing liberalism, rejecting the concepts of the Motherland and love for the Fatherland, pour water on the mill of the enemy. We should firmly defend our national interests, our culture and history with concern for the future of the state. The Western propaganda machine does not work when it meets with the honor, nobility, firmness of spirit and unshakable morality inherent in our people. Traditional spiritual and moral values must be fully supported and strengthened, while not forgetting to debunk Russophobic pseudoscientific theories that become the ground for aggressive anti-Russian actions.
— Let's talk about a different kind of pressure. Is it true, in your opinion, that the West seeks to take control of Russia's natural resources using climate issues?
— The United States and its European clients without any hesitation allow themselves to promote ideas on the use of Russia's water resources by all states of the planet from the rostrums of international organizations. They shamelessly juggle data that supposedly fresh water reserves in Russia do not correlate in any way with the number of the living population and the economic activity of the country. Engaged Western scientists and politicians take the liberty to categorically declare that only the countries of the collective West have the right to dispose of the natural resources available in the world, and Russia allegedly received them unfairly. With such statements, the West actually admits that it cannot do without Russia's natural resources.
— Germany recently closed the last three nuclear power plants, abandoning nuclear power. In your opinion, what is Berlin counting on?
— By promoting the reduction of generating capacity, the German leadership deprives the national economy of energy-intensive production. Renewable energy sources, which European officials rely on, will not be able to completely replace the energy generated by nuclear power plants. Nuclear power is not just a reliable source of electricity, but also one of the most environmentally friendly methods of generation.
Over the past 20 years, Europe has already lost a quarter of all its forests due to increased harvesting, since 60% of renewable energy is produced from biomass, almost half of which is provided by forests. At this rate, Europe will remain without forests at all.
Riding the environmental agenda, European officials categorically ignore the arguments of professional environmentalists about the benefits of cooperation with Russia in the field of energy.
"The safest places will be Eastern Europe and Siberia"
— At the same time, the reliability of alternative energy sources is very conditional. For example, the eruption of the Shiveluch volcano in Kamchatka disabled solar panels. But Shiveluch is not Vesuvius and not the American Yellowstone, which is considered the most dangerous sleeping volcano in the world...
— Did you remember about the Yellowstone volcano? If he wakes up, it will be an unprecedented disaster. It is capable of eruptions thousands of times greater than those known to mankind. Observations show that over the years the activity of the volcano increases, magma in it approaches the surface at a high speed. The number of earthquakes in the surrounding caldera is also growing, reaching 2 thousand per year.
The conducted studies allowed us to simulate the course of the proposed eruption and its consequences. It is believed that the death of all living things in North America is inevitable. Most of the world's population will suffer from a chain of eruptions of other volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis and acid rain. But this worries the American population, not its politicians.
The problem of protecting the population and economic infrastructure from the destructive power of volcanoes requires the development of scientific research in the field of volcanology. Western countries, obsessively increasing the number of sanctions, should not be protected by them from Russia, but continue cooperation in the scientific field, including in geology. Research and achievements in the interests of progress and saving people's lives should become the property of all mankind.
At the same time, the American authorities with their Yellowstone would like to wish to remember folk wisdom more often. An English proverb says: "People living in glass houses should not throw stones." Washington, which decides the fate of other states and peoples, should remember that the ancient Romans also lived comfortably in Pompeii and were not averse to debauchery.
By the way, some in America claim that with a possible eruption, Eastern Europe and Siberia will be the safest places. Apparently, here lies the answer to the question of why the Anglo-Saxon elites are so eager to take possession of the very Heartland.
— Humanitarian disasters and their approach should push countries to mutual understanding, not to conflicts. However, the world experience in the fight against coronavirus has proved the opposite. Do you think that in the event of a new problem of this magnitude, the experience of the separation of countries will be repeated? Or do people still see the situation differently than their governments?
— Do not forget that in the United States, as in other unfriendly countries, there are many citizens who have a positive attitude towards Russia. Respectable Americans and Europeans may well ignore Washington's anti-Russian propaganda, come to our country and become citizens of the Russian Federation, subject to compliance with Russian legislation and respect for our culture.
By the way, the number of those wishing to choose Russia as a permanent place of residence is growing. Most of them are deeply religious Christians who are close in spirit to the moral and moral values that are protected in Russia, but have long been trampled on in America.
For information: over the past year, the number of US citizens who have received passports from other countries has tripled. The myth of the notorious "American dream" has been dispelled. Today, the States have literally slipped into the Middle Ages. The US authorities are silently looking at the outrages of radical individuals, forcing citizens to bow down to BLM activists. A real witch hunt can be called the increasing persecution of representatives of the media. Over the past two years, more than 300 attacks on correspondents have been committed in the United States. Dozens of journalists have been arrested and convicted just for carrying out their professional duties, preparing reports on topics that the authorities prefer to keep silent about.
Domestic political processes in the United States are becoming turbulent and uncontrollable due to irreconcilable differences between elites, corporations and government structures.
— Turbulence can be observed not only inside this country, but also outside it. And all this against the background of natural disasters and incessant economic crises. In your opinion, then why does the United States need Ukraine in these conditions?
— The Americans need Ukraine only as an object of merciless exploitation of existing natural resources without the traditional population. Following such a neo-Nazi line, Washington has already turned it into a territory that millions of people are leaving en masse, seeking protection abroad from socio-economic problems and pro-fascist oppression. 30 years of upheavals organized in Ukraine by Washington have led to a halving of the population. And today the White House is easily going to continue the war with Russia to the last Ukrainian. At the same time, the preservation of Ukraine as a state is not included in the plans of the United States.