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So what is Prigozhin doing now? Is he trying to stage a coup or is he telling the truth about the rottenness of Shoigu and the defence ministry or is he just playing the role of controlled opposition for something or some strange/genius distraction... what kind of theatre show is this (and his openly pro-Ukrainian rhetoric amuses me) Jackowski predicted a coup attempt Krzysztof Jackowski - Polish Clairvoyant
 
So what is Prigozhin doing now? Is he trying to stage a coup or is he telling the truth about the rottenness of Shoigu and the defence ministry or is he just playing the role of controlled opposition for something or some strange/genius distraction... what kind of theatre show is this (and his openly pro-Ukrainian rhetoric amuses me) Jackowski predicted a coup attempt Krzysztof Jackowski - Polish Clairvoyant

A lot of funny business going on with this. RWA lays out some possibilities:

 
So what is Prigozhin doing now? Is he trying to stage a coup or is he telling the truth about the rottenness of Shoigu and the defence ministry or is he just playing the role of controlled opposition for something or some strange/genius distraction... what kind of theatre show is this (and his openly pro-Ukrainian rhetoric amuses me) Jackowski predicted a coup attempt Krzysztof Jackowski - Polish Clairvoyant

Here is more on this:

There are breaking reports that Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has finally completely broken off relations with the Russian military, and essentially "declared war" on the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).

According to a prominent translator who has examined freshly released audio of Prigozhin's fiery message on Telegram, the Wagner leader begins with: "PMC Wagner Commanders’ Council made a decision: the evil brought by the military leadership of the country must be stopped. They neglect the lives of soldiers. They forgot the word “justice”, and we will bring it back."
And now Prigozhin finally appears to be in hot water, under formal investigation for mutiny, per the statement in TASS:

Russia’s National Anti-Terrorism Committee on Friday demanded that Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the private military company Wagner, stop unlawful actions and said the Russian Federal Security Service started a mutiny investigation in connection with his recent statements.
"The statements that are being spread on behalf of Yevgeny Prigozhin are absolutely unfounded. In connection with these statements, the Federal Security Service of Russia has started an investigation into a call for an armed mutiny. We demand that unlawful actions be stopped immediately," the committee said in a statement.
 

On June 23, 2023, the Investigation Department of the FSB of Russia legally and reasonably initiated a criminal case against Prigozhin E.V. under Article 279 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on the fact of organizing an armed rebellion.
His actions will be given a proper legal assessment.
This crime is punishable by imprisonment for a term of 12 to 20 years.

 
❗️ Russian DefMin: Messages & Video from Wagner Chief Prigozhin on Strikes by Russia on Wagner Positions are False & Provocative - Russian Armed Forces continue operations against Ukraine within Special Military Operation.


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Taking advantage of Prigozhin’s provocation to disorganize the situation, the Kiev regime in the Bakhmutovsky tactical direction focuses on the starting lines for offensive operations of the units of the 35th Marine Brigade and the 36th Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Servicemen of the Southern Group of Forces defeat the enemy with air and artillery strikes. (c) TC "Zvezda"

 
12 hours ago, Prigozhin released first part of an 'interview' about real reasons for the special military operation and the critical problems of the army (in Russian, 30 min)


Some highlights, first 20 mins, and sorry for simplification, neither Russian nor English is my mother tongue:
- 2014-2022 Donbass' money wasted or stolen by generals and oligarchs, not enough militants
- The same time Ukrainians had volunteers and regular soldiers (nationalists). "They were shooting at us, we were shooting at them"
- 24 Feb 2022 nothing unusual happened. MOD tries to convince Kremlin that Ukraine is getting stronger and with NATO is planning to attack Russia
- About Russian army: since 2012 (at least): weak, pretending otherwise; shameful Syrian operation: medals for armchair generals kissing Shoygu's a**
- SVO, beginning: chaotic, secretive, generals didn't know where they needed to go etc. Shoygu's daily reports: PR; should have been quick threat to Kiev, change of power, negotiation; instead, Shoygu lost thousands of soldiers in useless Kiev adventure, and they were the most competent soldiers and commanders. Instead of going all the way (siege of the city), they preferred to live in comfort. This is how the operation turned into a war of attrition.
- isolation: instead of having meetings with a bunch of competent generals, it was Shoygu alone giving orders; with competent commanders and good planning only 1 out of 10 of those killed would have been killed. Shoygu - criminal.
- March 2022: shameful situation, dozens or hundreds of thousand of soldiers killed, first deserters, Wagner joins the operation.
- Why the war was needed: 1) so that one man, mentally sick Shoygu, becomes marshal and gets another hero star; 2) for oligarchs, that clan who rules Russia nowadays; to secure their interests and seize Ukrainian assets, Medvedchuk had to become Ukrainian president.

Wandering if that's why the camp was shelled (if it actually was) and criminal case has been opened.
 
From VK, in chronological order, oldest first, deepl transl.:

yesterday at 12:45 pm (the 'interview posted above)

Evgeny Prigozhin released the first part of the interview about the real reasons for the special military operation, the critical problems of the army and possible war scenarios.

0:00 - origins of the special operation
0:20 - Slavyansk should have been finished in the fall of 2014
0:43 - Spending NM corps money instead of preparing for war
2:17 - special operation started not because of Ukrainian and NATO aggression
3:53 - army in a defective state since 2012
4:34 - Syrian campaign - the main credit for the PMCs
5:04 - Most Russian generals are "parquet"
5:56 - The soldier under Shoigu ceased to exist as a creature with an opinion
6:24 - The operation was a secret as the cause of the problems
7:05 - Shoigu ruined thousands of soldiers in the first days of the war
10:04 - These scum didn't tell us where we were going
10:43 - near Kiev we should have dictated our terms
12:15 - The war became protracted
12:53 - defeat became apparent at the end of February
15:11 - number of Russian fighters killed in the first month, deserters
16:01 - great Tuvinian warlord wanted a marshal
17:09 - Medvedchuk was supposed to become the president of Ukraine
20:09 - holy war turned into a racket
21:41 - mission accomplishment over lives of soldiers
23:44 - Unprofessionalism of "parquet generals
25:49 - Lack of control killed 80 percent of the soldiers
26:01 - "shell hunger" and the price of soldiers' lives
26:51 - "Wagner" wanted to destroy
27:32 - The Ministry of Defense leadership deceives the President
28:54 - The situation in Zaporozhye and Kherson
30:07 - Bakhmut now

yesterday at 6:37 pm
Statements by Yevgeny Prigozhin to the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation regarding Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov. ㅤ

Prigozhin asks to check for state treason, genocide and violation of territorial integrity and to initiate criminal cases based on the available facts.

"They should be held responsible for the genocide of the Russian people, the murder of tens of thousands of Russian citizens and the transfer of Russian territories to the enemy. And the transfer is deliberate, just like the murder of Russian citizens and genocide. Shoigu has genocide on ethnic grounds. (paper attached)

four hours ago (audio)
"We were sneakily deceived and tried to deny us the opportunity to defend our homes and disperse the Wagner PMC.

We were ready to make concessions to the Ministry of Defense, to surrender our weapons and find a solution for how we would continue to defend our country.

These scum launched missile strikes on our rear camps. A large number of our fighters have been killed.

We will decide how we will respond to this atrocity. The next step is up to us."

Yevgeny Prigozhin

four hours ago (audio)
"The evil of the country's military leadership must be stopped!

They have neglected the lives of soldiers, they have forgotten the word "justice," and we will bring it back!

Those who destroyed our boys today will be punished.

I ask no one to resist, anyone who tries to resist will be considered a threat and we will destroy immediately. ㅤ

I ask everyone to remain calm and not give in to provocations, stay in their homes.

After we have finished what we started, we will return to the front to defend our homeland.

We will deal with those who destroy Russian soldiers, and we will return to the front!

Justice in the troops will be restored, and after that, justice for all of Russia!"

Evgeny Prigozhin on the decision of the board of commanders of the Wagner PMC.

three hours ago (audio)
Details began to emerge, the Minister of Defense arrived in Rostov specifically to conduct an operation to destroy the PMC "Wagner". He used the artillerymen and helicopter pilots in a "dark" way to destroy us!

Evgeny Prigozhin

three hours ago (audio)
"This is not a military coup, this is a justice march. Our actions do not interfere with the troops in any way!"

Evgeny Prigozhin
 
Transcription (by program) of the last audio uploaded by Prigozhin on his telegram about 37 minutes ago:

Current Situation Today we were hit by a missile attack. After that, the helicopters worked. After that, artillery commands came from the Chief of the General Staff to destroy the Wagner PMC. After a meeting with Minister of Defense Shoigu, at which they made this decision to destroy the recalcitrant units that are ready to defend the Motherland, but their ass is not. At the moment, we have crossed state borders in all places. The border guards came out to meet and hugged our fighters. Now we are entering Rostov, a division of the Ministry of Defense, or rather, conscripts who were sent to block our way. Step aside. We don't fight children, we don't kill children. Children are being killed. Shoigu throws untrained soldiers, including conscripts for the war. He put 18-year-old boys against us, they are our children, we are all good grandchildren. So these guys will live and go back to their mothers. We fight only with professionals. But if anyone gets in the way, we will destroy everything that gets in the way. We reach out to everyone. No need to spit in this hand. We're moving on. We go to the end. As for the statements about the arrests.

Текущая ситуация сегодня по нам был нанесен ракетный удар. После этого отработали вертолеты. После этого артиллерия команды исходили от начальника Генерального штаба об уничтожении ЧВК Вагнера. После совещания с министром обороны Шойгу, на котором они приняли это решение уничтожить непокорн ые подразделения, которые Родину готовы защищать, а их жопа нет. В настоящий момент мы пересекли во всех местах государственные границы. Пограничники выходили навстречу и обнимались с нашими бойцами. Сейчас мы входим в Ростов, подразделение Министерства обороны, вернее, срочники, которых кинули пе рекрывать нам дорогу. Отошли в сторону. Мы не воюем с детьми, мы не убиваем детей. Детей убивают. Шойгу закидывает необученных солдат, в том числе срочников на войну. Он поставил против нас пацанов 18 летних, они нам детям, все мы внуки годятся. Поэтому эти парни будут жить и вернутся к своим матерям. Мы воюем только с профессионалами. Но если кто то встанет на пути, мы уничтожим все, что будет стоять на пути. Мы протягиваем руку каждому. Не нужно плевать в эту руку. Мы идем дальше. Идем до конца. Что касается заявлений по поводу арестов.

from the Russian RT telegram:

The Ministry of Defense, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Russian Guard report around the clock to Putin on the measures taken on his instructions in connection with the attempted rebellion - Peskov.

 
- Why the war was needed: 1) so that one man, mentally sick Shoygu, becomes marshal and gets another hero star; 2) for oligarchs, that clan who rules Russia nowadays; to secure their interests and seize Ukrainian assets, Medvedchuk had to become Ukrainian president.

If he really thinks that, and is not a trick or a game, his shortsightedness can be seen from kilometers away.
 
Other, by the way, the video that Prigozhin uploaded to his telegram as proof of the missile attack looks quite false or at least the shots it shows do not seem to correspond to helicopter missile attacks, there are no craters for example or calcined areas:


On the Moscow highway, one of the assault detachments under the version of the arrows in the divisions is still on fire in the forest zone, I once again warned everyone before we will perceive it as a threat and destroy everything around us they will not be able to destroy we have targets we are ready to all die all 25,000 thousand and after that another 25 thousands because we are for the Russian people who need to free people who are hitting the civilian population who had just arrived in Rostov with a helicopter one pilot belonging to the FSB refused to fly and strike

Plenty of videos of troops and military equipment in Rostov, but no combat or images of Wagner troops yet...
Even so, whatever happens, Prigozhin should not want to carry out a coup against the Kremlin-Putin or whatever the networks say, he wants to go-protest-against Shoigu.
 
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Way too many conflicting news stories at the moment as to what is really happening with Wagner's Prigozhin. Here is another from Slavyangrad Telegram channel.

 

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