Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

[Ca.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672467030614716417

My take is, that until we actually see any proof of kinetic hostilities, there is no situation in Russia.

We’ve seen wild speculation and unverified reports, but on the ground it looks like a photo op.

But if you want to know what I THINK is happening; I think Prigozhin is doing what he always does, which is say crazy shit to create the illusion of disarray, to cover for Russian tactical movement/assaults.

Just like he did in Bakhmut, he claimed Russia wasn’t giving him ammo, he was going to pull all his troops out, wanted Shoigu’s head on a platter, etc., only to turn around and finish taking Bakhmut shortly after.

I think Prigozhin and Putin are conducting a psyop to disguise Russian troop movement to either launch an offensive, or coerce Ukraine into attacking.

The only place this is a civil war is on the Internet, because the folks are eager to say and believe anything to deflect from the catastrophic losses in their holy “counter-offensive”.

Just like Belgorod, in a couple days, the NAFO trolls will be on to the next thing because this turned out to be nothing.

But as always, we shall wait and see.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672594581966184454

Prigozhin Says He Is Not Going To Fulfill Orders Of Putin, FSB Or Anyone Else

On June 24, Evgeny Prigozhin, the public head of PMC Wagner, made another statement claiming that he and his fighters...

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1672553717755674624

I amaddressing citizens of Russia, the personnel of the Armed Forces, lawenforcement agencies and security services, and the soldiers and commanders who are now fighting in their combat positions, repulsingenemy attacks and doing it heroically – I know this as I spoke once again withthe commanders of all sections of the frontline last night. I am alsoaddressing those who were dragged into this criminal adventure through deceit or threats and pushed onto the path of a grave crime – an armed mutiny.

Today,Russia is waging a tough struggle for its future, repelling the aggression of neo-Nazis and their patrons. The entire military, economic and informationalmachine of the West is directed against us. We are fighting for the lives and securityof our people, for our sovereignty and independence, for the right to be and remain Russia, a state with a thousand-year history.

Thisbattle, when the fate of our nation is being decided, requires consolidation of all forces. It requires unity, consolidation and a sense of responsibility, and everything that weakens us, any strife that our external enemies can use and doso to subvert us from within, must be discarded.

Therefore, anyactions that split our nation are essentially a betrayal of our people, of ourcomrades-in-arms who are now fighting at the frontline. This is a knife in the back of our country and our people.

A blow likethis was dealt to Russia in 1917, when the country was fighting in World War I.But the victory was stolen from it: intrigues, squabbles and politicking behindthe backs of the army and the nation turned into the greatest turmoil, the destruction of the army and the collapse of the state, and the loss of vastterritories, ultimately leading to the tragedy of the civil war.

Russianswere killing Russians and brothers were killing brothers, while all sorts of political adventurers and foreign forces profited from the situation by tearingthe country apart to divide it.

We will notallow this to happen again. We will protect our people and our statehood fromany threats, including from internal betrayal.

What we are facing is essentially a betrayal. Inflated ambitions and personal interests have led to treason –treason against our country, our people and the common cause which Wagner Groupsoldiers and commanders were fighting and dying for shoulder to shoulder,together with our other units and troops. The heroes who liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk, towns and villages in Donbass, fought and gave their lives for Novorossiya and the unity of the Russian world. Their memory and glory have alsobeen betrayed by those who are attempting to stage a revolt and are pushing the country towards anarchy and fratricide – and ultimately, towards defeat and surrender.

Once again,any internal revolt is a deadly threat to our statehood and our nation. It is a blow to Russia, to our people. Our actions to defend the Fatherland from thisthreat will be harsh. All those who have consciously chosen the path of betrayal,planned an armed mutiny and taken the path of blackmail and terrorism, will inevitablybe punished and will answer before the law and our people.

The ArmedForces and other government agencies have received the necessary orders.Additional counterterrorism measures are now in effect in Moscow, the MoscowRegion and several other regions. Resolute action will also be taken to stabilise the situation in Rostov-on-Don. It remains difficult; in effect, the work of civil and military authorities has been blocked.

As the Presidentof Russia and Supreme Commander-in-Chief, and as a citizen of Russia, I willtake every effort to defend the country and protect the constitutional order as well as the lives, security and freedom of our citizens.

Those whostaged the mutiny and took up arms against their comrades – they have betrayedRussia and will be brought to account. I urge those who are being dragged intothis crime not to make a fatal and tragic mistake but make the only rightchoice: to stop taking part in criminal actions.

I amcertain that we will preserve and defend what we hold dear and sacred, and together with our Motherland we will overcome any hardships and become evenstronger.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672556699624906752

Because when they will arrive to Moscow then what?

I doubt that will happen. More the case that the Ukrainian CIA-backed covert operations will continue to be the new normal against Russia.

 

[Cosmos]

Remember, when Putin gave that famous interview years ago, and the - Western? - journalist asked him: (quoting from memory)
- What do you consider the greatest crime against Russia?
Putin answered prophetically:
- Betrayal.

(IIRC)

Yeah, I remember that quite well. Although I think Putin was asked in general if he can forgive wrongdoings. He answered that he can forgive a lot of things, but Betrayal is not something he can forgive:

[...]Also, as Putin stated a while ago, there are many things he can forgive, but one thing he can't forgive, namely; Betrayal:

Putin: 'Betrayal is the most shameful act'

Russian president Vladimir Putin has again criticised Turkey for shooting down a Russian warplane, describing it as a 'betrayal'.

www.bbc.com

Vladimir Putin names betrayal as worst sin ever

'I can never forgive betrayal', warns Putin in new documentary

The Russian President, widely expected to be reelected on Sunday, said in a new documentary that 'not everything' can be forgiven - in particular 'betrayal'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

And if you think about it, yes indeed, betrayal belongs to the most unforgivable things or sins a human being can engage in...

 

[Beau]

But it is possible that Prigozhin was indeed fulfilling a role and playing out a scenario that wasn't ordered by Putin, although backed up by Putin in general. Maybe a more nationalistic "total war" (including tactical nuclear warheads) faction provided Prigozhin with backup that provided him with the uber gusto.

Yeah I think it's possible. Korybko brings up how Putin now wanting to resolve the proxy war without violence may have induced Prigozhin to act:

He regrettably went rogue, however, which was likely due to two so-called "trigger events": the previously mentioned requirement for all PMCs to sign contracts with the DM and President Putin's recent signals that he's interested in politically resolving the proxy war if Russia's security is ensured.
[...]
Prigozhin has repeatedly agitated for escalating his country's special operation, which aligns with some of his compatriots' views, but it's treason to take up arms against the state in pursuit of this agenda.

 

[Natus Videre]

I was reminded of a quote. I can't remember whose it was.
"...A serial killer is a psychopath who doesn't have the cash to start a corporation...".
PKW "WAGNER" is a corporation.

And when a corporation is running out of cash... psychopaths to the rescue!

 

[Cosmos]

The official translation of Putin's address to the nation has been published now:

Address to citizens of Russia​

June 24, 2023
10:00

I am addressing citizens of Russia, the personnel of the Armed Forces, law enforcement agencies and security services, and the soldiers and commanders who are now fighting in their combat positions, repulsing enemy attacks and doing it heroically – I know this as I spoke once again with the commanders of all sections of the frontline last night. I am also addressing those who were dragged into this criminal adventure through deceit or threats and pushed onto the path of a grave crime – an armed mutiny.

Today, Russia is waging a tough struggle for its future, repelling the aggression of neo-Nazis and their patrons. The entire military, economic and informational machine of the West is directed against us. We are fighting for the lives and security of our people, for our sovereignty and independence, for the right to be and remain Russia, a state with a thousand-year history.

This battle, when the fate of our nation is being decided, requires consolidation of all forces. It requires unity, consolidation and a sense of responsibility, and everything that weakens us, any strife that our external enemies can use and do so to subvert us from within, must be discarded.

Therefore, any actions that split our nation are essentially a betrayal of our people, of our comrades-in-arms who are now fighting at the frontline. This is a knife in the back of our country and our people.

A blow like this was dealt to Russia in 1917, when the country was fighting in World War I. But the victory was stolen from it: intrigues, squabbles and politicking behind the backs of the army and the nation turned into the greatest turmoil, the destruction of the army and the collapse of the state, and the loss of vast territories, ultimately leading to the tragedy of the civil war.

Russians were killing Russians and brothers were killing brothers, while all sorts of political adventurers and foreign forces profited from the situation by tearing the country apart to divide it.

We will not allow this to happen again. We will protect our people and our statehood from any threats, including from internal betrayal.

What we are facing is essentially a betrayal. Inflated ambitions and personal interests have led to treason – treason against our country, our people and the common cause which Wagner Group soldiers and commanders were fighting and dying for shoulder to shoulder, together with our other units and troops. The heroes who liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk, towns and villages in Donbass, fought and gave their lives for Novorossiya and the unity of the Russian world. Their memory and glory have also been betrayed by those who are attempting to stage a revolt and are pushing the country towards anarchy and fratricide – and ultimately, towards defeat and surrender.

Once again, any internal revolt is a deadly threat to our statehood and our nation. It is a blow to Russia, to our people. Our actions to defend the Fatherland from this threat will be harsh. All those who have consciously chosen the path of betrayal, planned an armed mutiny and taken the path of blackmail and terrorism, will inevitably be punished and will answer before the law and our people.

The Armed Forces and other government agencies have received the necessary orders. Additional counterterrorism measures are now in effect in Moscow, the Moscow Region and several other regions. Resolute action will also be taken to stabilise the situation in Rostov-on-Don. It remains difficult; in effect, the work of civil and military authorities has been blocked.

As the President of Russia and Supreme Commander-in-Chief, and as a citizen of Russia, I will take every effort to defend the country and protect the constitutional order as well as the lives, security and freedom of our citizens.

Those who staged the mutiny and took up arms against their comrades – they have betrayed Russia and will be brought to account. I urge those who are being dragged into this crime not to make a fatal and tragic mistake but make the only right choice: to stop taking part in criminal actions.

I am certain that we will preserve and defend what we hold dear and sacred, and together with our Motherland we will overcome any hardships and become even stronger.

 

[Cosmos]

Scott Ritters thoughts on the situation:

 

[Adobe]

“IF”…if, it is a Russian Psy-op, here are some possible benefits:

-Unite the Russians and their allies.

-Russian can easily move to full mobilization.

-Put the scent of blood in the water to tempt the enemy to make a stupid move.

-Attack NATO while they are reveling in the “presumed” Russian civil disorder.

 

[Cosmos]

I personally don't think it is any kind of Psy-op on the russian governments side but rather pretty much what Putin has said in the speech: Internal Betrayal. Probably aided/managed by the empire to destabilize Russia and trying to foment regime change. That is the only way the empire can "win" in Ukraine or anywhere else at this point.

 

[vulpes]

“IF”…if, it is a Russian Psy-op, here are some possible benefits:

-Unite the Russians and their allies.

-Russian can easily move to full mobilization.

-Put the scent of blood in the water to tempt the enemy to make a stupid move.

-Attack NATO while they are reveling in the “presumed” Russian civil disorder.

Mobilization and direct confrontation with NATO is not a benefit.

West is also some kind surprised. If this would be some west baked operation I would expect some turbo propaganda in the media while they seem right now unprepared.

We need to "wait and see". Situation is not consistence in any direction I think.

 

[Olivierlejardinier]

“IF”…if, it is a Russian Psy-op, here are some possible benefits:

-Unite the Russians and their allies.

-Russian can easily move to full mobilization.

-Put the scent of blood in the water to tempt the enemy to make a stupid move.

-Attack NATO while they are reveling in the “presumed” Russian civil disorder.

In this video, similar thoughts are shared in the conclusion, good factual summary, nothing confirmed regarding the helicopters suposedly shot down by Wagner... (published June 24):

 

[lilies]

I'm sure some here noticed how utterly this manufactured Prigozhin scandal took the attention of The People. Everyone's energy is expended into this STS black hole trap. While Biden is accused of corruption at home and a record amount of billions are being sent to Ukraine, which is this years' 'Western Public Hypnosis Project' -, which is about to fail utterly. Just like after past years' announcement: "Everyone To Attention for Covid"!

When Ukraine falls and Russia steps into the center of the world's attention, starting to dictate conditions of surrender, it will be a significant victory over the West. Face loss and surrender of the West.

Therefore USA CIA cannot allow it. Either they will start a war with China fast, I think via a Pearl Harbor-scale scandalous provocation
or
USA media will unanimously report on Live TV, with high-resolution camera footage the landing of aliens on White House's lawn.
Then all public attention on the planet will turn toward the US, the sole arbiter of the destiny of the human race on the matter of aliens.
- Watch on Live TV, how the US decides, what this planet's 8 billion inhabitants would like to tell the aliens, etc..

All of a sudden everybody will forget Russia and will start to focus on the New Question of The Day.

 

[Cosmos]

If it is true that Wagner forces are approaching Moscow, I think this can get quite dangerous, not because they are really in a position to do anything militarily, but because, whoever is behind this, might be playing/counting on Putins humanity to lure him into a dangerous place.

What I mean is this:

Whoever foments this might be counting/hoping on the idea that Putin will try to not attack those Wagner forces as long as possible: That Putin will only do this as a last resort. This means that they can and will probably approach Moscow quite near, and they then hope to be in a position to attack Moscow/Putin. I would bet that Putin soon has to make a very difficult decision. The question is when and if he will make that decision, namely, stopping those troops, which probably means killing many if not most of them.

And if he does that he will probably be faced with quite some discord in russia as a consequence and fueling of revolutionary ideas. It will be viewed by quite a number of russians as a disaster and/or „weak leadership“. Which might be one of the key agendas of this operation.

Also what happens in Ukraine now should be watched carefully. „The Ukrainians“ might use this situation to their advantage there.

 

[Nević Nenad]

I'd say that Prigozhin would turn himself in, and be arrested (and later freed). There will be promises that the situation with "parket" generals will be solved (and that reorganisation is one of the goals of this show). Wagner will be elegantly assimilated in russian army. Russian society will be a tad more militarized.

And possibly some real "coup" situation which was scheduled and prevented with this (just as SMO itself was). And of which we dont know nothing.

There would be more agressive russian actions on the front.

And everyone will be happy.

 

[Nević Nenad]

BTW, the whole situation resembles on how communist parties solved their internal problems in the "eyes of the socialist peoples".

 

[iamthatis]

I personally don't think it is any kind of Psy-op on the russian governments side but rather pretty much what Putin has said in the speech: Internal Betrayal. Probably aided/managed by the empire to destabilize Russia and trying to foment regime change. That is the only way the empire can "win" in Ukraine or anywhere else at this point.

Yeah, I was thinking that if Prigozhin had any latent narcissism, add to that PTSD from protracted fighting, plus frustration at MoD bureaucracy and the slow pace of the conflict, that's quite a lot of fuel that could be set off. The spark could've been a political move, like some kind of offer from the Ukronazis, the neocons and the CIA, anti-Putin oligarchs in Russia, or even just one very smooth psychopath to vector him. There's also the possibility of an esoteric factor like his proximity to the portal in Ukraine.

The whole thing has a sort of "Et tu, Evgeny?" feel to it.