Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

I agree that the official Russian reaction to this makes it all seem deadly serious, but I also consider that it could be an elaborate ruse.


Note what Prigozhin said in the above video update from this morning, purportedly filmed at the Russian military's Southern Command HQ in Rostov-on-Don, which Wagner troops have 'taken over without a single shot fired', and from where Russian aviation attack and medical retrieval flights into the warzone continue as normal:

"Huge parts of the [Russian-occupied] territories [in southern Ukraine, where Kiev's counter-offensive is concentrated] have been lost. Numbers of [Russian] soldiers killed is 3 to 4 times more than what is being reported in the documents to the top..."

Not even Kiev and Western media have claimed such an extremely negative scenario for the Russians this last month! The Western media has been - overall - unanimous in its verdict that Russian defenses are holding. So Prigozhin is 'protesting too much': he is painting a farcically dire scenario that resonates only with Ukrainian Nazis and NAFO trolls.

Recall also that the last time Prigozhin 'went nuts', Wagner captured Bakhmut within a week, and then were swapped out from the frontline by regular Russian troops, a switch that was almost certainly planned well in advance and had nothing to do with Prigozhin's shrill antics about threatening to 'abandon Bakhmut if we don't get more military support'.

IF Prigozhin was angling his narrative towards 'ending this awful war started by and for oligarchs', THEN this 'mutiny' would contain within it the seeds for genuine civil war. But instead he's always ranting about ESCALATING the war against Ukraine. In his TV address this morning, Putin alluded to the tragedy of 1917, but back then you had mutiny which fed on growing public desire for PEACE. Here, Prigozhin is 'further to the right' than even Igor Strelkov: he demands TOTAL WAR.
 
Vladimir Putin said that the situation in Rostov on Don:
Traces of FAB-500 aerial bombs on the M-4 highway, on which airstrikes were carried out in the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation this morning.

Clip pretends to show the moment that the Russian air force hits a vehicle on the M4.

The onboard defense complex of the Ka-52 of the Russian Aerospace Forces took away the anti-aircraft missile of the Strela-10 PMC Wagner.
People are leaving the area of the headquarters of the Southern Military District en masse, where, as reported, in addition to the explosion, shots were also heard.
The convoy of the Wagner PMCs, including trawls with tanks, is already in the Lipetsk region.
That is about 300 km from Moscow.
 
Vladimir Putin said that the situation in Rostov on Don:







That is about 300 km from Moscow.
All of these are available with English-language captions on the Slavyangrad Telegram channel.

That attempt to knock out a helicopter is worrying.
 
That's a few hours old already and the situation is changing rapidly, but it still has some good points.

Jun 24 at 08:07

Let's use logic!
- Prigozhin's actions are certainly unconstitutional and, in fact, constitute an armed insurrection, no matter what noble goals he justifies himself with. And he understands this very well. He is counting on his own, personally loyal and well-trained and battle-hardened private army of up to 25,000 fighters, which should provide him with immunity and decisive arguments in any negotiations.

- Prigozhin is certainly expecting a reaction from the Russian president. And this is the last umbilical cord that still somehow ties him to the Power and keeps him from the final break and a complete departure into confrontation with the State. But he will hardly be able to hold on to this line. The logic of the rebellion will inevitably lead him to a complete confrontation with the State, and to a manifestation of the goal of changing the government.

- So far, the "siloviki" and the Wagner detachments observe mutual neutrality, but it should be understood that this is almost a conditional concept - any provocation from the side (the Ukrainian GUR, for example) or a nervous breakdown in any of the policemen, sentries, or Wagner operatives will almost immediately lead to a firefight and a large-scale conflict.

- Prigozhin cannot and will not limit himself to Rostov. The logic of any rebellion requires that it be scaled up or it is doomed. Therefore, Prigozhin's threat to go after Moscow is rather an obligatory item in his program. But he will realize it only after he finally opposes the current Power in the country, because such a campaign is not simply a march of columns of troops from point "A" to point "B", but a full-scale civil war, during which he will have to overcome the resistance of local authorities, who keep loyalty to their oath.

- To succeed in such a campaign, Prigozhin needs strategic resources - fuel, food, transport, arms and ammunition. At that, if he can get the first ones - fuel and food - almost everywhere, there will be obvious problems with weapons and ammunition. Therefore, one of the purposes of his march on Rostov, with a high degree of probability, is to seize the district depots, which will be carried out after the final break with the authorities.

- Like any rebel leader, Prigozhin is likely to try to increase the number of his units by appealing to the population to go under his banners and help him restore order in the country and defeat the corrupt and traitorous. It is evident that the most lumpenized part of the society, which is counting on getting rich during the troubled times, as well as all kinds of radicals, will respond to this appeal. In addition, Prigozhin will try to transfer to his side the military units he will encounter in the course of the campaign.

- The weakness of any rebellion is that in the space controlled by the rebels, very soon all laws will cease to function, except those that they themselves will arbitrarily set and this will provoke a huge wave of crime and lawlessness, as well as the paralysis of the social infrastructure

- One of the key questions today is how willing are the Wagner commanders and fighters themselves to go all the way? Participating in an insurgency is too serious a crime to be treated as a conventional military operation. Besides, they would have to fight against their comrades from the past on their own territory. Whether they are ready to blindly carry out any order of Prigozhin is an open question.

- The Wagner mutiny is the most serious crisis of the state since October 1993, when President Yeltsin carried out a successful coup d'etat in Moscow.

There is another element that links this current Prigozhin affaire with the 1993 coup in a strange way. At that time, Shoygu was the head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations that was run in a very specific Shoygu's way (long story). When Yeltsin clashed with the Supreme Soviet yet was lacking any enforcement resources (people, weapons), Shoigu, at Yegor Gaidar's request, provided Yeltsin's clique with about a thousand of Kalashnikov assault rifles from the ministry's warehouse. And Ostankino massacre followed.
 
The strangest thing about all this still seems to me how it started.
a video of an alleged missile helicopter attack and that doesn't look like one; which was followed by an alleged artillery attack and again in the images no craters or calcined earth can be seen... there were reports of attacking helicopters and Wagner's columns as they headed towards the border areas, there was not much noise about that anymore There are things like this:
Downed helicopters.

Helicopters, which worked on the convoy of PMC "BagNER", allegedly worked on Ukrainians - the task was presented to the pilots in this way.
It was reported that it was khokhLY who broke through the front and were moving impudently towards Moscow, which is why they worked.

@orchestra_w

In general, this is the alignment for helicopters.
Shot down two Mi-8mtpr. EW helicopters. I stopped by. Crews are alive.
That was the bit Mi-35. Rabotal li on the column, I don't know. The crew is alive.


If these details turn out to be true, it makes me think that maybe and just maybe someone saw a possible route to divisiveness by "grooming" Prigozhin through false information and influences gradually delivered to him and finally driving him crazy with a false provocation.
All this is too timely, just when the Russian army is in a strong position.
if this was instigated from outside, there would still be the detail that Prigozhin wants possibly an escalation and that would not be beneficial for Ukraine, perhaps they expected more support for Wagner and Russia to bleed out or weaken in a civil war?
 
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but this seems like a psyop to me.

In Prigozhin's video, his talking points are word for word every single talking point of the Ukrainian Nazis, including the claim that Ukraine was not aggressively bombing Donbass for 8 years. This seems to me like a psyop that is tailor-made for an already-brainwashed Ukrainian audience. And I think he would be ecstatic to pull such a grandiose theater piece -- he loves doing that. But the most important thing here is that his Nazi talking points confirm everything that the Ukrainian top brass genuinely believe, and might be just enough to fool them into the big counter-offensive push that Russia has been hoping they'd make for weeks now.



Yet in reality he is getting those weapons, to the point where Wagner even seems to get preferential treatment. Prigozhin has a track record of dramatically portraying weakness to lure Ukraine into an attack, only to find out they've been had. For example, during a stalemate in Artemovsk (Bakhmut) he made a lot of noise about not having any ammunition and getting ready to withdraw. They supposedly withdrew, and so the Ukrainian troops seized the opportunity and attacked -- and were completely routed by Wagner (who, lo and behold, weren't supposed to be there). This looks to me like the same trick, but on a larger scale.

Ukraine's counter-offensive has fizzled out to the point of being a non-starter. If they turtle up and withdraw now, before they've even properly started, that's the worst possible scenario for Russia because that will mean Russia going on the offensive again and chipping away slowly and slowly. Russia want Ukraine to keep attacking, and to finally feel confident enough for a proper counter-offensive. It's in Russia's best interest for this offensive to keep going for as long as possible since it incurs very modest losses on their side and catastrophic losses for Ukraine's meat sacrifices. And that's how Russia has been running this SMO: very small margin of tolerance for Russian losses. If I was Russia, I'd be coaxing Ukraine into some small wins so that they believe they might still have a chance to do something. (And so they don't feel desperate and hopeless enough to pull something drastic with the nuclear power plant, as they've been hinting at quite feverishly in recent days.)

Anyway, this is my theory and perhaps it's wishful thinking of my own. In which case, Prigozhin is just a pathological nutcase or a Western marionette. Or both.

The geo-political damage from this situation is no where near worth it being a psy-op. Russian forces have been easily destroying the cobbled-together forces of Ukraine. There’s no need to bring in other variables. If the strategy isn’t broken, there’s no need to fix it.
 
Simplicius the Thin report. He lays out his evidence as to is this an elaborate Psyop or is it Prigozhin off the rails, or is it a trap for Prigozhin set by MOD. Maybe watched too many movies but this also might draw out other treasonous actors to make an obvious move? Oligarchs? NATO, what, do we call it 'Black Ops'???

As I lay awake in the night and thought about this, maybe it is rose colored glasses of some sort, but I tentatively concluded it was an elaborate Psyop. Simplicious gives the reasons this might be the case as well as observing other possible reasoning.

" One last thing to mention. There is still the possibility this is all some kind of elaborate psyop. Anything is possible because the situation is simply so 'out of left field'. The reason it's out of left field to me in particular is Prigozhin really did not appear to have any substantive justification for any of this simply defies the belief that Prigozhin would be so incensed about all the “failings” of the MOD at the time of the MOD's singularly greatest glory on the battlefield. that case would be—as I said before—that Prigozhin knew his time was up as the MOD was already planning on canning him, so it was “now or never” for him.

However, on the other side of the coin, there is one unsettling thing about all this to me. Which is that, unless Prigozhin has completely had a mental break and is outright deranged (which I doubt), what he's doing would appear to be suicidal. To march a few mercenary troops into Russia on the fly or on a whim seems utterly lunatic and would clearly result in nothing more than Prigozhin's arrest and long imprisonment if not his death.

So, it's unsettling for that very reason that I don't think Prigozhin—or anyone sane—would make such a move off the cuff unless they had it all planned out many steps in advance and—most importantly—had already secured some kind of significant internal support somewhere. So, does that mean Prigozhin may have actually thought this out, planned it well in advance, and has the secret support of many important figures in the Russian military who will actually back him in this coup? What other possibility could there be for him to make this wild attempt? No sane person would do this unless they've secured secret approval or quiet support from some powerful higher-ups. And if that's the case, that means this situation would be much more serious than it appears. "


 
Here, Prigozhin is 'further to the right' than even Igor Strelkov: he demands TOTAL WAR.
Which is, interestingly, what NATO's aim has been this entire time.

The following article by Korybko is excellent and takes Pepe Escobar to task for his sloppy thinking regarding this affair:

There is another element that links this current Prigozhin affaire with the 1993 coup in a strange way. At that time, Shoygu was the head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations that was run in a very specific Shoygu's way (long story). When Yeltsin clashed with the Supreme Soviet yet was lacking any enforcement resources (people, weapons), Shoigu, at Yegor Gaidar's request, provided Yeltsin's clique with about a thousand of Kalashnikov assault rifles from the ministry's warehouse. And Ostankino massacre followed.
Some ancient karma that Shoigu is cleaning up?
 
As I correctly understand, the objectives of Wagner is to remove Shoigu and reform the strategy of SMO. With so selfish motives at first shot it looks to me like craziness.

If it is revolution, what are the chances of society support? At time when Russia is growing to be leader of new world, creating new possibilities, enforcing army and economy how it would be even considered to be achievable?

Right now I bet it is provocation to extract real betrayals. It is perfect ocasion for agency of all sorts to attach to coup and therefore expose themselves. Or perfect ocasion for FSB to tighten to maximum internal security.

Because when they will arrive to Moscow then what?
 
Prior to the SMO and until very recently it was "known" or understood that Prigozhin has a good contact and relations with Putin. Sure, many took all his criticisms (toward MoD and Shoigu) at face value, but many others (including myself) saw it as as some sort of performance. That Prigozhin wouldn't dare or wouldn't be allowed to go that far without any back up from Putin.

It wasn't possible to know exactly what was going on or planned, but what is known that there are many objective problems and Prigozhin isn't wrong about a lot of what he is saying. There are indeed problems and corruption in the MoD and managing of the military/SMO in general. So it did look like a part of some sort of gradual preparation for the change at the top. Not talking about Shoigu, though most of the criticism was directed toward him, but not only toward him.

There are various talks about change of the elites and others in power. Svetlana Dragan also mentioned this in her forcasts. This is something that requires a slow and smart game with actions at the right moments, but there is also a need for a preparation and creation of specific crisis points that would allow such changes to occure. And so my impression was that Prigozhin was playing the role of such a crisis catalist.

But then his criticisms become more and more loud, overt and crass. It still looked like he was following some sort of scenario, because otherwise it's unclear how his public tantrums could be tolerated. Even Khazin said during one of his interviews that he knows Prigozhin personally and that he is "an extremely pragmatic and sober person. And if he's making these kinds of tantrums, it means he's embedded in some political projects."

Considering all that, and prior to Putin's statement, my working theory was that this was the moment of such crisis catalization. In one of her recent videos Dragan said that the processes of power/elite change are already underway, but they are still largely behind the scenes. And it's logical that it's a long process that happens mostly behind the curtain. Supposedly the second half of the year and the first half of the next year will be rocky (in various degrees) to those in power and that we should expect changes. So when I saw what Prigozhin did, my thought was that this was one of the first overt acts. But still backed up by Putin.

The main flaw in my theory was to forget that Putin is a "lawful good" character (to use D&D parlance) and any kind of mutiny/revenge/justice (like Prigozhin called it) will not be tolerated or acceptable. But it was still confusing, because Wagner's entrance to Rostov wasn't violent. I was listening to one analyst who was doing a stream when events unfolded, and he said that Wagner move reminded him of "Crimea Spring". When "green polite men" entered Crimea and their entrance eventually led to a bloodless change of power. That's why this move by Wagner, albeit very surprising, didn't look like a coup.

Now, after Putin gave his statement, it is pretty clear that Prigozhin's move is being condemned. But I also find it hard to believe any theory that speaks about Prigozhin being a traitor. That he was pro-West or pro-Ukraine all along. One would need solid arguments to show that this is so. The fact that Chodorkovsky expressed his support of Prigozhin just means that his handlers have an interest of discrediting Prigozhin even further.

But it is possible that Prigozhin was indeed fulfilling a role and playing out a scenario that wasn't ordered by Putin, although backed up by Putin in general. Maybe a more nationalistic "total war" (including tactical nuclear warheads) faction provided Prigozhin with backup that provided him with the uber gusto. Don't know. It's hard to understand what is going on for sure because his tantrums, albeit containing real facts, always had a flavor of being a show of some sorts.

And there is also the following information. There is a lady on Telegram called Olga. Supposedly she has an ability to get insight about specific situation or a person by "reading" the information field. She has a lot of examples of such readings on her channel, and many of them make sense and sound true, while others are more questionable. So take this info with a grain of salt. I am adding it here because it makes sense and also correlates with Dragan's predictions. And then later, if more information comes to light, it will also be an opportunity to check her reading ability.

Energy in Russia is quite hot, but not critically, especially in the South, in the Center and, for some reason, in the Far East (Sakhalin region).

VVP (Putin) extremely condemns the actions of EP (Prigozhin), there is information that it is not what was supposed to happen and not in such a way. Some kind of plan, the order of things has been violated. He is very unhappy. It is unacceptable.

There was a group of people at the very top who initially knew and supported the demarche, now they are stepping aside from EP, as if to raise their hands - I had nothing to do with it. There are 3 people there. The highest level. It turned out that they used EP unwittingly.

EP himself is not an easy man. His task is to burst the bubble, in which the "parquetry generals", as the president rightly pointed out, "are lounging". These are illusions that are created by the MoD so that their "sweet life" system continues to function as before and nothing changes. Does he have the task of regime change-the answer is-no. Is he affiliated with the globalists - no. Does he have any personal interest and ambitions, yes.

Moscow. There is a lot of anxiety at the top. Those on the thrones are confused and frightened, though they think the "rebellion" will be put down. But tensions are high. They do not know how to play the game.
There is a feel as if birds begin to take off from the ground, what kind of birds they are - airplanes, private planes, they're heading West "away from harm". They fly home to their own place, where their heart is.

Which is good. Mobilization has come to the top. The viscous swamp is in motion. One can literally feel the hatred of EP - who asked you, why did you overreact, it was so peaceful.
Many will reconsider their positions on Russia. Not all of them are cynics and unprincipled people.

The possibility of a "hot phase" in Moscow is present, but it won't affect ordinary people in any way.
If EP used to be part of one of the ruling forces, now it is a force in its own right.
We hope for the wisdom of VVP. But he will definitely not turn on the back. He is angry. Very angry.
 
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