Pyramids in Bosnia?

[Approaching Infinity]

While escorting them on a visit to Sarajevo a great number of people approached me on the street with congratulation for the project and expressed their hopes that the discovery of the Bosnian pyramids would bring about a positive reversal in the country’s economy. Colett and Schoch were surprised at the great number of people who recognized me and they commented that “Schoch is also known in American cities”.

Is this relevant or even true?

If it's true, it shows that Schoch may be more interested in others' opinion of him than the truth. This would seem to be the case, seeing as how he recanted his earlier views on the Sphinx and is now a Hawass groupie.

She also shared with him that at newly found megalith K-1 in the underground tunnel “Ravne” workers carved symbols so that it would appear that we have had found remnants of very old literacy. This “important information” she represented to Schoch as a secret asking him not to say anything to me, because, allegedly, she would lose her job.

Is that so, care to substantiate?

If what Sam says about Nukic later on in his article is true, it sounds like a good thing they got rid of her. The one thing that worried me about the whole project was their willingness to let anyone who wanted do work there. While this is good from one perspective, it also means the group is wide open for infiltration, divide-and-conquer techniques, and other shenanigans. Sounds like this is what Nukic was engaged in, but luckily Sam and his team saw it. Of course, this is all dependent on what Sam says being true. At this point, however, I tend to believe him.

Also we have the fourteen examples of how Dr. Schoch "does not produce any scientific evidence, sample analysis, or radiocarbon dating—just his opinions."
and this tirade ends with...

Really, how many times Dr. Robert Schoch get away with being wrong?

And his examples? Mostly opinions and true disinfo! IMO he was wrong 13 times...

I don't see it this way. He quotes and references scientists, tests, and results. While you may argue that any scientific analysis comes down to opinion or "interpretation" of evidence, this is more than Schoch has provided.

Judging by the text, Mr Sam seems the pathological one to me...

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Osmanagich is simply defending himself and his team from unjustified attacks, which is understandable given the nature of the work they're doing. FWIW.

 

[Cosmos]

I would tend to agree that Sam Osmanagić seems to be a relatively honest guy.
I olso find it more than telling if Robert Schoch is a "supporter" of Hawass !

If those claims supposedly made by Shoch are real (wich I would tend to believe they are) then it seems clear for me that Schoch is the one that is selling disinformation !

 

[clerck de bonk]

If it's true, it shows that Schoch may be more interested in others' opinion of him than the truth. This would seem to be the case, seeing as how he recanted his earlier views on the Sphinx and is now a Hawass groupie.

... hrmh, haven't heard of that one , care to substantiate? ;D
Maybe I should go diggin' myself.

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Osmanagich is simply defending himself and his team from unjustified attacks, which is understandable given the nature of the work they're doing. FWIW.

Maybe not so much a conclusion but as a comment to Tonosama's

Here is the latest post of Sam Osmanagić
This is about some psychopathic scientist, who want discharge Sam's work.

...I'll go diggin'.

EDIT 1:

From Roberts website(__http://www.robertschoch.com/):
"1) I have no connection to or association with the Robert Schoch Foundation.

2) I own two domains on the World Wide Web, robertschoch.com and robertschoch.org. Others have purchased my name as a domain. I have no control over this, or what is posted on those sites. The Web is the ultimate experiment in free expression, and I understand this. Thank you for your interest in my work."

From his text regarding the sphinx(__http://www.robertschoch.com/sphinxcontent.html) I can't see him "selling out" in any way(at least not to Hawass). On the contrary I see it as a solid text with good explanations(which Sam rarely, if ever, produce)

EDIT 2:

Even his comments vis-à-vis Bosnian pyramids are in a more "gentlemanly" tone than Sam's. Have a look for yourselves (__http://www.robertschoch.com)/bosniacontent.html)

EDIT 3:

Then I found this(__http://www.robertschoch.net/Bosnia%20Semir%20Osmanagic%20comments%20on%20Dr.%20Schoch%20and%20Dr.%20Dowell%20on%20Bosnian%20Pyramids.htm)

I will not say that I haven't had an opinion against Sam all along. But while I'm diggin' here I'm starting to become very convinced that, indeed, He(Sam) is pathological!

OPINION ALERT! OPINION ALERT! OPINION ALERT! OPINION ALERT!
If You compare the writing styles of the two, which one is more glib and gregarious? Or even better, compare Sam's with Laura's!

 

[Approaching Infinity]

If it's true, it shows that Schoch may be more interested in others' opinion of him than the truth. This would seem to be the case, seeing as how he recanted his earlier views on the Sphinx and is now a Hawass groupie.

... hrmh, haven't heard of that one , care to substantiate? ;D

Well, I can't find any evidence of Schoch being a Hawass groupie other than Osmanagic's hearsay. And as for the Sphinx, no, he didn't recant his views. He just revised them. In the mid '90s, when he was working with John Anthony West, he said the Sphinx was probably built 12,000 or more years ago. Years later, he revised that estimate to "6,700 to 9,000 years ago" (Pyramid Quest, p. 75). Also, in the same book, he says the Great Pyramid was completed by Khufu in the year ~2550 BC, i.e. the mainstream, accepted date (note that Wm Fix gives a good criticism of this date in his book, Pyramid Odyssey). So, disregarding Osmanagic's comments, what I see in Schoch is a scientist who is becoming more and more "mainstream" in his views on Egyptology as time goes by. That would explain his views on Yonaguni.

That said, it's always possible Osmanagic is the plant. Don't know what to think about that at this point, though. If the Cs are right and the pyramids are real, then it's SOMEONE's job to discredit them. If the accusations of fraud are true, it could be Sam, and Schoch could be just responding to the deliberate disinfo covering up the truth. Or Schoch might not be the reliable source he's made out to be...

 

[clerck de bonk]

If it's true, it shows that Schoch may be more interested in others' opinion of him than the truth. This would seem to be the case, seeing as how he recanted his earlier views on the Sphinx and is now a Hawass groupie.

... hrmh, haven't heard of that one , care to substantiate? ;D

Well, I can't find any evidence of Schoch being a Hawass groupie other than Osmanagic's hearsay. And as for the Sphinx, no, he didn't recant his views. He just revised them. In the mid '90s, when he was working with John Anthony West, he said the Sphinx was probably built 12,000 or more years ago. Years later, he revised that estimate to "6,700 to 9,000 years ago" (Pyramid Quest, p. 75). Also, in the same book, he says the Great Pyramid was completed by Khufu in the year ~2550 BC, i.e. the mainstream, accepted date (note that Wm Fix gives a good criticism of this date in his book, Pyramid Odyssey). So, disregarding Osmanagic's comments, what I see in Schoch is a scientist who is becoming more and more "mainstream" in his views on Egyptology as time goes by. That would explain his views on Yonaguni.

That said, it's always possible Osmanagic is the plant. Don't know what to think about that at this point, though. If the Cs are right and the pyramids are real, then it's SOMEONE's job to discredit them. If the accusations of fraud are true, it could be Sam, and Schoch could be just responding to the deliberate disinfo covering up the truth. Or Schoch might not be the reliable source he's made out to be...

If indeed if we are using the C's as a reference point here then, imo, my earlier post(reply #34) should be answered first. If it isn't then there's nothing to discuss(see reply #38, last sentence).

 

[Cosmos]

I've found a little video documentary about the Bosnian Pyramids 20 minutes long.
in the documentary different experts (archeologists,geophysicists,geologists,material specialists,biologists,anthropologists,pedologists,egyptologists) talk about their findings on the sight.
one fellow sended by Zahi Hawass gives a statement too.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/bosnian-pyramids/



I've transcript all down here (some translations are not that good):


Dr.Amar Smailbegovic (doctor of geophysic):

What is interesting for us geophysics, is appearance of geophysical anomaly, therefor,themal anomaly and if you remeber a hypotheses,that the hill of Vicocica is cooling faster then surrounding area. For surrounding we have done some preliminary surveying and mainly it's a cohesive and natural materials. Just as we can see here, the materials are with smaller densities, and they are also having enough empty space beetween them and we we don't know what is in dept below us.Mainly this materials are connected with calcoruos matrix, so even naturaly, they would be with smaller densities and you can see here that we already have porosity and fissure, and this blocks are lined up as the bricks. With further digging, you will be able to see, that there is enough empty space, what is causing a faster loss of temperature.

Dr.Aly Barakat from Egypt (doctor of geology):

how can nature separate them ok ?. It can separate them but the (?) it is angular, because there is no movement to make this slide,no movement. If I (imagine that it is =?) just a crack it must be that (showes a curve hand movemend). So I think it is man made this…….
.............that is the same thing I can see in acient egypt, yes this one ……

I’m a geologist from the Egyten Mineral resource(?)….there is something similar between our (?) and the antiquity, because ancient people used the natural material to mix tinctures and to build tempels and pyramids, something like this. I work in the desert and I identified the stones and the antiquity object. what I see now here is very interesting and impressing , because it is not natural material, it is is really natural material but prepard by man to make plato or steps like this. so fore me, for the first impression it probably represents primitive Pyramid. But it depents on future digging and study.

Mr.Selim Beslagic (Institut for Material Constractio-Tuzla):

The Institut for Civil engineerin and the construction materials and nonmetals from Tuzla has done pair analysis of the stones quality that we have found here. We took the samples from the sandstones and before all we accomplished so called scelerometrics analysis, wich have shown that the firmness of this materials is between 300i500 kg/cm2. We took the samples from the stones construction. on this samples, we have been exploring physical-machanical specifications,wich have shown expressive high results, even to 60 mega pascals or if I’m saying in tones it would be 600 kg/cm2 and it’s showing that this material is very , very quality. the another interesting sample is a connection supstance from the Pyramid of the Sun and connecting supstance from the Pyramid of the Moon. That is this white supstance for connection this materials.we have shown that supstance is a calcium-carbonate or in other words, those who have used this material , know what is air embroidery hoop, who has crossed to the calcium carbonate and preformed fixed connections on this blocks. altogether, we have more sample to analyse so on the basis of this results we will finily give our opinion of the materials quality.but one is sure, that the man who has worked here know for this qualitative materials and that materials had build in this objects, which someones calling Pyramids but is quite sure that this objects are handmade.

Dr.Dario Andretti from Italy (doctor of geology):

we believe that the culture of this area is very importand for the western people and for our students so we are here to contribute with our knowledge with the colleagues from the university and the university of Zaraievo and other scientists to make research and very huge effort about the researched to collect data are on this area. this area is very importand , maybe we are in present of something of very interesting for human beeings in the modern times. we have evidence of a archiological situation that has no doupt about the fact that there is something man made.there are also tunnels into the pyramids, the shape of the (?) resemble like Pyramids, geometrical features. we are bringing here a lot of experts under those students but to have the maximum scientific effort for give to the Bosnian people the possibility to create this geo environmental archelogical park to give to the human being and to the world the possibility to study this incredebal things.

Prof.Dr.Sulejman Redzic (doctor of biology):

Since 1980-1981 natural complex of Vicoca. now Valley of Bosnian pyramids, have left on me, as young explorer and ichthyologist, special interest and have aroused curiosity inside of me how is in the middle of Bosnia and Herzegovina, in area of temperate continental climate, is appearing vegetations, whose exclusive growing more south, most frequently in area of Mediterranean. about that, in consideration that I’ve spent one year around this hill in Visoko, I’ve been thinking what the cause would be and than I have come to the specific indication that it must be expressed appropriate drainage of the hill, namely, drainage of geological bases and some types of the ground, wich has caused intensive warming of this parts and growing xerothemic vegetations who is characteristic for much warmer climate. exceptionally, I had been content that the last experts examination, who hase started this mega project, showed that the one of the hypotheses is based on a different thermodynamics and the air surveying has demonstrated that to us. now, we can truly say that the herbal lid on this area illustrate that hypotheses.

Dr. Zakariyah Ben Badhann from Jordan (doctor of archeology):

I’m university instructor in archeology and anthropology . In Jordan I have been doing archeology for the last 15 years , I (?) and supervised many sights back in Jordan that are dating from prehistory to the Islamic eras. I have had the chance to visit most the sections that has been (?)and (?) the pyramid of the sun the pyramid of the moon down there. (?) we have to say that we now have such hugh anomalies that look like man made and they are hiding something interesting. Pyramid of the moon there is definitely something that is man made, I have visited the terasses and the (?) that are made of (?)stones. I believe that we need some time on the pyramid of the sun to uncover more parts of it, and establish a picture or an idea an imagination about what do we have here. generally speaking I do believe there is something that is man made here in this (?) and it then will then take time to uncover, expose and to present to the puplic something that will change the history of the balkan and maybe the universes, I mean we knew of no pyramids in europe before you know the (?) here.

Prof.Dr. Husnija Resulovic (doctor of pedology):

Ours impression are very impressive. One more groupe of us pedologist have come here and we are, from the aspect of the ground wich is present here, what’s his characteristics are, how much time it has needed to get formed on this supstratum, able to conclude that is a word about marls. when we look at this profile, which is here behind my back, we can see that the ground is deep about 40 cm and underneath is coming this supstratum, and that is marls, who can be from a marl days or marl sands, and speed of the ground creation is depending of that. for us, it’s very important that the ground creation on this supstratum, is very slowly process, so for 1 cm of the ground is necessary to pass 250-300 years.

Dr.Mohammed Ibrahim Aly from Egypt (doctor of egyptology):

I was asked by doctor Zahi Hawass who is the general secretary of the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Egypt to come here to see what is going on and to give the Bosnian people my opinion about this place. I came here two days ago and I saw several archeology sights, it was amazing for me to see such things here in such land that has never been touched by any archeologist. I saw several sights wich (?) several questions and answers, it needs more investigation. everything I can say here or what ever I say here, it is, it should be investigated carefully by ohh lets say archeologists and geologists. I can say frankly speaking that some of the sights I have seen, it can not be natural composed but made by human beeings who lived here fore awhile.

 

[Cosmos]

here is what Dr. Sam Semir Osmanagić said in his article
http://www.bosnian-pyramid.com/journal/2011/5/22/how-many-times-dr-schoch-has-been-wrong.html :

7.) On his website Robert Schoch claimed that there are some “Egyptian experts” that claim there are “primitive pyramids in Bosnia”, but he goes on to explain that Dr. Zahi Hawass (until recently the head of Egyptian Antiquities) denied the validity of that claim.

In fact geologist Dr. Ali Barakat, who has decades of experience in archaeology and in explaining the construction of Egyptian pyramids, came to Visoko several times. After his first visit in 2006, when he researched the Bosnian pyramids for 42 days, Dr. Barakat concluded in a written report that Bosnian pyramid of the Sun is a “man-made pyramid” and that it probably represents a “primitive pyramid”. Subsequently, Dr. Zahi Hawass did everything possible to see that Dr. Ali Barakat lost his job because he dared, without Hawass’ approval, to claim there are pyramids in Bosnia. The motivation of Hawass is clear: he didn’t want millions of tourists to come to Bosnia instead of in Egypt. With all due respect to geologist Schoch, who has not done any analysis in the area, geologist Barakat analyzed retrieved material concluding that these are cast blocks with a binding medium similar to the Egyptian pyramids.

Photograph: Egyptian geologist Dr. Ali Barakat spent two archeological seasons in Visoko proving that Bosnian pyramid of the Sun is artificial structure.

8.) Schoch continues that “if someone is an expert in the domain of pyramids it is Dr. Zahi Hawass” and that “Hawass claims that on the basis of available data, Bosnia has no artificial entities”.

Robert Schoch became world famous by claiming that the sphinx and pyramids in Giza are more than 12,000 years old. He was attacked by Egyptologists. Later Schoch withdrew his opinion regarding the Egyptian pyramids and gained Hawass as an ally. This series of events lead to Schoch’s later claim that Hawass is the world expert on pyramids. Hawass claims that pharaohs of the 4th dynasty built the pyramids in Giza with primitive copper tools, and that the oldest and the greatest Egyptian pyramids served as tombs. For such claims evidences are needed.

Hawass consistently refused invitations to visit the Bosnian pyramids and attacked all Egyptian experts who came to Visoko and claimed it is an artificial construction above and underground. These experts included: Dr. Nabil Swelim, Dr. Mona Ali, Dr. Mona Haggag, and Dr. Soliman Hammed.

A scientist bases his opinions on scientific facts, and a politician upon interests. Hawass is a politician with a big ego. He could not possibly base his opinion of the Bosnian site on facts because he never visited the site himself and refused to acknowledge other expert’s data and opinions.

and here is what Dr.Aly Barakat from Egypt (doctor of geology) said in the video above:

how can nature separate them ok ?. It can separate them but the (?) it is angular, because there is no movement to make this slide,no movement. If I (imagine that it is =?) just a crack it must be that (showes a curve hand movemend). So I think it is man made this…….
.............that is the same thing I can see in acient egypt, yes this one ……

I’m a geologist from the Egyten Mineral resource(?)….there is something similar between our (?) and the antiquity, because ancient people used the natural material to mix tinctures and to build tempels and pyramids, something like this. I work in the desert and I identified the stones and the antiquity object. what I see now here is very interesting and impressing , because it is not natural material, it is is really natural material but prepard by man to make plato or steps like this. so fore me, for the first impression it probably represents primitive Pyramid. But it depents on future digging and study.

and here is what the the fellow sended by Hawass said in the video above,
Dr.Mohammed Ibrahim Aly from Egypt (doctor of egyptology):

I was asked by doctor Zahi Hawass who is the general secretary of the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Egypt to come here to see what is going on and to give the Bosnian people my opinion about this place. I came here two days ago and I saw several archeology sights, it was amazing for me to see such things here in such land that has never been touched by any archeologist. I saw several sights wich (?) several questions and answers, it needs more investigation. everything I can say here or what ever I say here, it is, it should be investigated carefully by ohh lets say archeologists and geologists. I can say frankly speaking that some of the sights I have seen, it can not be natural composed but made by human beeings who lived here fore awhile.

 

[Cosmos]

there is a new discovery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moPclPJ0Kp4&feature=feedlik

Latest Discovery at the Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids - July 2011
Geo-radar has detected anomalies under the floor of the Bosnian Pyramids tunnel ne......

unfortunately I can't watch it in my country :(
can somebody tell me what the content of that video is and what they exactly discovered ?
is there a way that I can watch it ?

 

[bngenoh]

there is a new discovery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moPclPJ0Kp4&feature=feedlik

Latest Discovery at the Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids - July 2011
Geo-radar has detected anomalies under the floor of the Bosnian Pyramids tunnel ne......

unfortunately I can't watch it in my country :(
can somebody tell me what the content of that video is and what they exactly discovered ?
is there a way that I can watch it ?

It's only 2:25 long.

The first text says "Two days ago,scientists discovered a large object buried beneath the floor of the Ravne tunnel network"

Then it starts playing music and a picture comes up with the geo-radar that they used. Then there is footage of them using the geo-radar in the tunnels (music still playing). Then pictures of the crew with their equipment (computers, etc). Then a picture of the anomaly taken using the geo-radar (my guess). The anomaly looks like two triangles joined at the base with an x structure joining the two. So its triangle, x structure then other triangle.

Then more footage of the guys in the tunnels taking measurements wuth the geo-radar. Then a picture of one of the guys holding his laptop. Then more footage where again the anomaly is shown. Then the guy who is holding the laptop says "electric fields because (inaudible). Then the other guy responds in a language i don't know. Then a guy who sounds a lot like Dr Sam Osmanagic starts talking saying "it can be tombs, but also it can be part of the technology", then a sketch is shown of the anomaly. The structure of the anomaly seems to be just triangles from the sketch. Here's a picture that would describe it more than my words:

Then pictures of the surrounding area with the pyramids as the focus. More pictures of the site, tunnels, crew, etc.

Then more text saying "New discoveries are being made each day as we dig deeper into the Bosnian pyramids tunnel labyrinth. Dr, Sara Acconci will lead the excavation of the object this week. What will we find when the soil is removed ?" Then a pyramid like picture made of bricks comes up. Then it says "More information will follow soon..."

Hope this helps Pashalis.

 

[Cosmos]

there is a new discovery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moPclPJ0Kp4&feature=feedlik

Latest Discovery at the Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids - July 2011
Geo-radar has detected anomalies under the floor of the Bosnian Pyramids tunnel ne......

unfortunately I can't watch it in my country :(
can somebody tell me what the content of that video is and what they exactly discovered ?
is there a way that I can watch it ?

It's only 2:25 long.

The first text says "Two days ago,scientists discovered a large object buried beneath the floor of the Ravne tunnel network"

Then it starts playing music and a picture comes up with the geo-radar that they used. Then there is footage of them using the geo-radar in the tunnels (music still playing). Then pictures of the crew with their equipment (computers, etc). Then a picture of the anomaly taken using the geo-radar (my guess). The anomaly looks like two triangles joined at the base with an x structure joining the two. So its triangle, x structure then other triangle.

Then more footage of the guys in the tunnels taking measurements wuth the geo-radar. Then a picture of one of the guys holding his laptop. Then more footage where again the anomaly is shown. Then the guy who is holding the laptop says "electric fields because (inaudible). Then the other guy responds in a language i don't know. Then a guy who sounds a lot like Dr Sam Osmanagic starts talking saying "it can be tombs, but also it can be part of the technology", then a sketch is shown of the anomaly. The structure of the anomaly seems to be just triangles from the sketch. Here's a picture that would describe it more than my words:

Then pictures of the surrounding area with the pyramids as the focus. More pictures of the site, tunnels, crew, etc.

Then more text saying "New discoveries are being made each day as we dig deeper into the Bosnian pyramids tunnel labyrinth. Dr, Sara Acconci will lead the excavation of the object this week. What will we find when the soil is removed ?" Then a pyramid like picture made of bricks comes up. Then it says "More information will follow soon..."

Hope this helps Pashalis.

bngenoh thank you very much.
It irks me that I can't watch it myself.

 

[Kaigen]

For those of you who can't watch it, I made some pictures.

Thats probably not much, but most interesting in this short film.

 

[Cosmos]

thanks Kaigen that makes it a lot easier.

that is a significant anomaly I guess, from the chart I can see that it is at least 3m in hight. how deep does it reach into the ground ?
it seems that this doesn't end on ca. 3m under the floor of the tunnel ?
what can it be and what was the purpose ?

 

[JonnyRadar]

Vaguely reminiscent of the pit at Oak Island...

 

[7ightG4therer]

Hi all,

I was volunteering in the Ravne tunnels during the time when the ground radar crew was working there. I've had the chance to talk to those involved and there were a few things they said that are worth mentioning. First of all the cross section of the soil as can be seen in one of the posted pictures of the ground radar should be interpreted correctly. As I understood it, the picture contains artefacts as a result of reflections from the top of the underground structure, that are misleading. They expect to find a triangular stone object with the point sticking upwards. They do not know whether there is anything more below that structure, since the returning signal is skewed to such an extent that any interpretation is educated guesswork at best. Furthermore, the aspect ratio of the picture is misleading. The depth of view in the picture of the cross section is close to 4-5 meters, but the horizontal distance is compressed, relative to the vertical. In reality therefore, the triangular object has less steep angles than the picture suggests. The sketch that was shown is most likely inaccurate.

It turned out that, due to the large influx of ground water, the dig towards the underground structure is fairly complicated. We spend a lot of time building dams and rerouting drainage channels to prevent further flooding once they start digging down. This wasn't finished by the time that I left and by now I've seen some pictures that this work has been finished by now. I do not know whether any vertical digging towards the structure has commenced by now. I resonate with the remark abour Oak Island. The drainage channels however were put there in the 60's, when the part of the tunnel that was already excavated back then was used to collect ground water for the local people. The practical problems this creates today are probably similar, although less severe, than those experienced on Oak Island.
What is interesting too are the existing 'megaliths' that are located inside the tunnels. These look natural, but supposedly these were analyzed and shown to be of some type of baked clay. They were found to be hollow when analysed with scanners and seem to contain egg-like solids inside. The purpose of these megaliths evade every one involved..

For as far as the people are concerned that are involved with the project, I have heard and seen some interesting things. It seems that some of these people do not have the best interest of the archeological work at heart. There are only very few scientists involved permanently (as in, who live near the site and are working there full-time) and all of them seem to be very dedicated and sincere. Within the organization above them however, I saw a number of people that seem to have different agendas. There is a lot of money flowing in, but somehow this is not used for the excavation work. One of the lead scientists involved, told me that no salaries were being paid for month's on end. This person was living almost in poverty and only pursued the work because of a profound fascination for the site - almost a hobby, so to say. When this was discussed on numerous occasions with Semir, he showed a side within his personality suggesting he is a true narcisist. I hope you understand I limit the amount of detail to protect those involved..

A number of scientist I spoke with do not trust the organization surrounding Semir at all. They suspect that the work is carefully monitored and speed of progress is managed - even actively stalled. This in itself to me is sufficient ground to assume something very interesting is being unearthed here. I will later post some links from blogs and forums where more information on the progress is being posted. I will definately return there next year. Then I would also like to visit more sites where they found stone spheres, similar to those found in Costa Rica. Purely by chance I passed one of those sites on my drive back home. I stopped to make pictures and found spheres up to one meter across, lying along a narrow stream in the hills. Very fascinating...

This short rambling is only a very brief collection of thoughts on the Bosnian excavation. There is way more and I would like to share more. I'm rather low in energy at the moment and will return with updates once my thoughts are more coherent. Let me know if you have specific questions..

 

[clerck de bonk]

... It seems that some of these people do not have the best interest of the archeological work at heart. There are only very few scientists involved permanently (as in, who live near the site and are working there full-time) and all of them seem to be very dedicated and sincere. Within the organization above them however, I saw a number of people that seem to have different agendas. There is a lot of money flowing in, but somehow this is not used for the excavation work. One of the lead scientists involved, told me that no salaries were being paid for month's on end. This person was living almost in poverty and only pursued the work because of a profound fascination for the site - almost a hobby, so to say. When this was discussed on numerous occasions with Semir, he showed a side within his personality suggesting he is a true narcisist. I hope you understand I limit the amount of detail to protect those involved..

It would seem I get my earlier hunches verified...

A number of scientist I spoke with do not trust the organization surrounding Semir at all. They suspect that the work is carefully monitored and speed of progress is managed - even actively stalled.

Maybe because there's nothing truly artificial about them pyramids to begin with!

This in itself to me is sufficient ground to assume something very interesting is being unearthed here.

Well, it shouldn't be.

I will later post some links from blogs and forums where more information on the progress is being posted.

Please do.

I will definately return there next year. Then I would also like to visit more sites where they found stone spheres, similar to those found in Costa Rica. Purely by chance I passed one of those sites on my drive back home. I stopped to make pictures and found spheres up to one meter across, lying along a narrow stream in the hills. Very fascinating...

I would think carefully about that.

This short rambling is only a very brief collection of thoughts on the Bosnian excavation. There is way more and I would like to share more. I'm rather low in energy at the moment and will return with updates once my thoughts are more coherent. Let me know if you have specific questions..

Your last sentence sound like You should get some distance to this project. Keep healthy and take care.