Question about gematria

[Lapin Blanc]

Good day

The search engine of the forum does not bring many answers regarding gematria, there are only 14. As it does not seem to be talked about much, I came up to wonder about it.

I have a simple question:

In all ways, is it good to look into gematria and what can be found with it, and to talk about it?

From the sessions with the C's, I've only found the two following mentions below with the search engine, where gematria is only mentioned in the question.
On another hand, and besides the answers you may have, maybe it could be a point to ask the C's what they think about it and how they see it.

Session 12 July 1997

Q: Well, this is what we are looking at! I have even discovered that Sir Francis Bacon's name is even derived from "beech," and that his Latin signature has the gematria number of 17 - and January 17 is the feast day of St. Anthony, who replaced St. Augustine in this affair somewhat... and I have connected the Rosicrucians all over the blasted planet, for crying out loud! And, who is who here? Just who are the good guys?

A: Airports are used by both.

Session 13 November 1999

Q: Okay. Then it's a good thing that it's Greek to both of us! Next, she heard something along this line and asked: "Do crop circles use geometry and gematria to send us messages?

A: Messages? Yes. Geometry and "geometria? If one so desires.

Thank you for your answers.

 

[mkrnhr]

Hello Lapin blanc,
The subject of Kabbala (as opposed to Cabala, as mentioned by Fulcanelli in Le mystère des Cathédrales as well) is discussed in the Wave series. For example, a quick search online leads to chapter 29 and chapter 32
You may also consider the chapters on Alchemy in the book The Secret History of the World.
Hope it helps.

 

[Maat]

You can also watch the movie "Pi" (Darren Aronofsky)

 

[Laura]

Read Umberto Eco's book "Foucault's Pendulum."

 

[Eboard10]

Read Umberto Eco's book "Foucault's Pendulum."

Second that. It's quite long but well worth the read as it gives a good perspective on the use of numbers in esoteric circles.

 

[Laura]

Also, since I've been researching the origins of religion and all the developments parallel to it for many years, and am preparing to write it, I can tell you that I've completely lost any interest I ever had in anything like gematria, kabbalah, and other similar nonsense. When you know how those things developed, the kind of warped minds that created what amounts to utter silliness, there's not much reason to spend any energy discussing it.

And that, of course, reminds me that it IS time to get to work putting all the pieces together for all of you. Peeps in the house here have asked me to at least write out a Cliff Notes version of things on the forum "just in case". I reckon I ought to do that.

 

[Lapin Blanc]

Read Umberto Eco's book "Foucault's Pendulum."

Thank you for the adice, I will purchase it tomorrow.

Also, since I've been researching the origins of religion and all the developments parallel to it for many years, and am preparing to write it, I can tell you that I've completely lost any interest I ever had in anything like gematria, kabbalah, and other similar nonsense. When you know how those things developed, the kind of warped minds that created what amounts to utter silliness, there's not much reason to spend any energy discussing it.

Thank you, again, for your reply.

I guess my question was not asked the proper way as the word gematria relates to the religious texts.
In fact, I was thinking more to the analysis of dates, and numbers considered in the weaving of the events, rather than to the analysis of written things, such as Kabbalah.
But I got the point.

Let me give you a hint about what I mean:

The dates are set as day/month/year

Yesterday was the 26/9.

The 26/9 is the 269th day of the year. Made up of the same figures, it is the only day of the year that has this particularity.
The 26/9 is 269 days away from the summer solstice 21/6. No matter the year that's the way it is.
26/9 is then 269 days away from the coming symbolically doubled 21/6 2(0)16.

The 26/9 is the date pointed out by Laurent Fabius about the "500 days before a climatic catastrophy".
The 26/9 is then 500 days after his speech so one year plus 135 days after the 13/5, day of his speech.

That's the idea.

It has nothing to do with Kaballah, although sometimes gematria can be used for a better understanding, with... french words.

So, should I continue and tell more in a proper thread or should I leave it up to the above?
Is it of any interest to any or should I drop it to this small example? Because there is more.

 

[Lapin Blanc]

Erratum: The 26/9 is 269 days away from the summer solstice 21/6. No matter the year that's the way it is.
Read: It only works with the leap years.

 

[Lapin Blanc]

26/9 is then 269 days away from the coming symbolically doubled 21/6 2(0)16. It only works with the leap years to get 269 days apart.

It should say, let me clarify:

The 26/9 is 269 days away from the summer solstice 21/6. This day is stuck in the middle, no matter the year that's the way it is.

Any other year, there are 268 days before, starting at the beginning of the year, and the 21/6 is 268 days after it. That was the idea with "no matter what, that's the way it is." I omitted to add "This day is stuck in the middle".

Sorry for the mess, I can't edit my own posts... :(

 

[Maat]

when playing with numbers, you could always find anything. I think you are french so you know the saying "les chiffres on peut leur faire dire n'importe quoi".

 

[Laura]

Numerology is something else altogether and can be quite interesting. But one has to be careful to not let the bug go too far. The Universe is an incredible network of gazillions of relationships and there is certainly something to synchronicity, numerology, and "signs" of various types.

 

[Lapin Blanc]

But one has to be careful to not let the bug go too far. The Universe is an incredible network of gazillions of relationships and there is certainly something to synchronicity, numerology, and "signs" of various types.

Certainly.

Numerology is something else altogether and can be quite interesting.

Should I take that as a "make my day"?

 

[Laura]

I don't know if it will "make your day" or not.

Number theories are many and mostly silly. But still, there IS something. What I have noticed is that it is often very individual and specific to a given person what the meaning might be. Oh, of course, there are some generally broadly meaningful number relationships, but the meanings are so general they aren't of much use. And what it might mean for one person/group is one thing, while what it means for another person/group is another.

What is it about a soul essence that MIGHT attract to itself a certain name and that name has a certain number when decomposed numerologically and that number has been given a general interpretation? Careful observation will show that it is often 6 of 1 and half dozen of the other how accurate it is. (Same with astrology, as it happens.)

What inspired Pythagoras and/or his later followers to devote so much time to number theory? What inspired the author of the OT to borrow so much from Pythagoras in the writing of that text? Why did the Platonists after Plato take it the way they did? What about the Middle Platonists and then the Neo-Platonists? The Neo-Pythagoreans? We live with that legacy and when you study the steps that these things went through, the main thing you realize is that somebody, way back when, understood something and tried to pass it on and it passed quickly into nonsense, and then later somebodies tried to retrieve it but didn't have the perspective to do so. But still, there seems to be something important there.

The closest I think we can come to understanding it is via higher, hyper-dimensional mathematics of today - and to move further than that if possible. I think that somebody, way in the past, understood these things maybe better than we do and used numbers and geometry to try to convey things about information fields from which our reality emerges.

In the end, the best thing to do is to study physics and mathematics and not waste any time on so-called "esoteric speculations". It was science in the beginning and those ignorant of science got hold of it and it was lost for centuries. Only now do we have the opportunity to possibly recover what the true ancients knew.

 

[Buddy]

I agree with the above, even while my knowledge is not so in-depth. I've sort of been driven by a belief that "numbers matter but you can't just manipulate them any old way." The Pythagoreans must have known that or we might not even have usable geometry today.

 

[Lapin Blanc]

I posted a thread about it: A bit of numerology in the weave of the events