Quinton Plasma/Water, or "percutaneous hydrotomy"

Thank you so much! Do you know what size of the needles/syringes you use, especially the gauge of the needle?

According to my measurements (20/2 + 6 to 13) it should be enough with a needle length of…. let's say 20 mm?

I have:

30G x 1/2" Luer 6% Regular Bevel 0.3 x 13 mm

27Gx1 1/2" BL/LB 0.40 x 40 mm

18G x 1 1/2" BC/SB 1.20 x 40 mm

and 3 and 5 ml Luer syringes.

And lots of alcohol wipes.

30G is to short, so I will use 27G or 18G. What do you say?

I wonder why AHT don't use the leg muscles I mentioned to inject the blood, it is easier to reach and see and you avoid the ischiatic problem?
 
30G is to short, so I will use 27G or 18G. What do you say?

Those are your best options, but I would try to get a 21 Gauge of some 40mm in length. 18 gauge is too too thick for intramuscular injection and if this is something that you'll be doing regularly, you don't want to hurt yourself unnecessarily. For venopunction + intramuscular injections, something between 20-22 gauge is better.

If you use the upper right quadrant of the gluteal muscle, you'll reach well. I think it is a strong and thick muscle and those characteristics makes it more interesting for autohemotherapy stimulation.
 
21 or 22 G, 35-40mm is what we're used to, and haven't had any problems (also for very skinny people). It may seem impressive with that length, one barely feels it and you can be sure that it goes into the muscle.
 
Ordered…..looking forward to see what it will do, will report back.

Remember, start slow. If it was me, I'd do 3 ccs to start, maybe every 4 or 5 days, and then just increase the amount up to 5 to 8 ccs and see how that goes before increasing to 10.

And remember, in the beginning, you will have a couple days of feeling flu-ish right after, then a couple of good days. Eventually, the flu-ish days (activation of immune system) diminish to nothing.
 
Just got my latest blood test results, what stands out a little bit are these:

B-Leukocytes - 13.6 (3.5-9.0)
P-Glucose - 6.6 (4.0-6.0)
S-Estradiol - less than 40 (41.4-159)
S-DHEA-SO4 - 0.78 (1.2-9.0)
S-IGF1 - 268 (88-245)

But this:

S-Kortisol 28 (170-500)

No wonder I feel like crap….and I take 10-15 mg (3x5mg) of Prednisolone.
 
Just got my latest blood test results, what stands out a little bit are these:

B-Leukocytes - 13.6 (3.5-9.0)
P-Glucose - 6.6 (4.0-6.0)
S-Estradiol - less than 40 (41.4-159)
S-DHEA-SO4 - 0.78 (1.2-9.0)
S-IGF1 - 268 (88-245)

But this:

S-Kortisol 28 (170-500)

No wonder I feel like crap….and I take 10-15 mg (3x5mg) of Prednisolone.

It's probably because you are taking the the Pred that your blood work is so bad; that stuff destroys the system.
 
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It's probably because you are taking the the Pred that your blood work is so bad; that stuff destroys the system.
Yes, shut down my adrenals and probably some other stuff as well. Came back from the pain clinic in Uppsala a few weeks ago and they seem to be the leading health care/research place in Sweden right now for people like me, and they ordered/recommended a couple of other tests/specialists for me in order to reduce the amount/dosage of drugs, minimise the side effects. This will not cure me, just mess less with my body.

AHT, Quinton, Reiki etc (and that neuro thing you mentioned) and a psycho therapist I got recommended from my nurse friend are the things I think will help me cure myself, well that is my plan anyway.
 
Just to report, I had an injection of 3cc of blood last Thursday and there was no negative reaction to it. Not even a little bruise. My backside did hurt a little bit for a day, but at the end of the day it was poked by a needle. Apart from that there were no negative symptoms whatsoever.

In the meantime, I translated a large part of Gaby's article for the nurse and my mom, and since their own health issues are listed in the article, both of them are now interested in doing it themselves! My mom's husband is considering joining the club too.

I made arrangements to meet up with the family member this coming Thursday. She'll oversee me doing it myself so I can learn it and continue the therapy when I go back to London. I will increase the dose to 5cc. I showed them the video I posted here and that's exactly the method and equipment we are going to use on Thursday.


To be afraid of your own blood causing an infection strikes me as a bit over-the-top, assuming one is using normal sterile procedures as nurses are taught to do; at least they were taught such when I was in school. I don't think Poland is that different.


If I described the nurse as a person, her resistance and worrying without reason would become a bit less surprising. But beggars can't be choosers and I didn't have anyone else to turn to. I'm happy and grateful she agreed in the end though. :-)


Those are your best options, but I would try to get a 21 Gauge of some 40mm in length. 18 gauge is too too thick for intramuscular injection and if this is something that you'll be doing regularly, you don't want to hurt yourself unnecessarily. For venopunction + intramuscular injections, something between 20-22 gauge is better.


This was posted after I had the injection done and the needle they used was apparently size 7. When I called to discuss my next injection I said I wanted to use the sizes Gaby indicated but I was told 7 should be enough and that 20-22 may be too big. The above description reads like size 18 is bigger than 21. By that logic, 7 should be even bigger so I'm confused, especially that the size 7 needle they used was very thin. Or maybe there are different ways of describing sizes? Like metres and feet for length?

Also, I have a Leiden V Factor mutation discovered as a result of a bad reaction to some meds a couple of years ago. The mutation makes me prone to blood clots. I don't know to what extent this would affect blood clotting tendencies in general but if it does have impact, maybe a larger size would be better? I got the impression the nurse did have to force the blood out of the syringe a little so I suspect it might have started clotting quickly - or the needle was a bit too thin.

Although I am quite skinny in general, my body shape is such that fat tends to accumulate exactly around the point of injection (to describe it diplomatically) so the needle doesn't need to be super thin for me to be able to handle it.

I'm asking becuase I have an opportunity to stock up on supplies of all necessary accessories here in Poland and I would like to choose the best possible size. I'd be grateful for some guidance on this. :-)
 
According to most medical supply companies, the smaller the number, the bigger the needle. An 18 guage needle is like a darned toothpick! A 22 guage needle, on the other hand, is about the size of a sewing needle. Lengths can vary.

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According to most medical supply companies, the smaller the number, the bigger the needle. An 18 guage needle is like a darned toothpick! A 22 guage needle, on the other hand, is about the size of a sewing needle. Lengths can vary.

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Ah, I see! I think the size used was 0.7mm rather than being 7 guage. According to the above photo it was in fact 22 guage. The needle was tiny and thin, not a chance it was 18G or thicker.

Thank you! :flowers:
 

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