Reader claims: "#OCCUPYWALLSTREET IS COINTELPRO"

[DGF]

I'm behind the protesters 100% I wrote a glaring letter to the governer of NY condeming him for attempting to halt the protest forcefully. I think though that the protest are being steered by forces who seek harm to all on this planet. Those who are controlling this also have a vested interest in seeing the problems the OWS are protesting about become worse. If one can't see the advantage of controlling OWS for purpose of tearing our society apart even further for their own gains haven't grasped the concepts that Laura, Arkadiuzs and The C's have trying to present to all of us. This is just my opinion. Fwiw

 

[anart]

I'm behind the protesters 100% I wrote a glaring letter to the governer of NY condeming him for attempting to halt the protest forcefully. I think though that the protest are being steered by forces who seek harm to all on this planet. Those who are controlling this also have a vested interest in seeing the problems the protesters are protesting about become worse. If one can't see the advantage of controlling QWS for purpose of tearing our society apart even further for their own gains haven't grasped the concepts that Laura, Arkadiuzs and The C's have trying to present to all of us. This is just my opinion. Fwiw

Of course the 'movement' will be co-opted at some point - that is elementary - but there is no reason to think that with zero violence and them actually cleaning up after themselves that it has been co-opted yet. Even if it has, it is social proof to a lot of sleeping sheep that, just perhaps, there is another option in front of them. You seem to be blind to the fact that humanity does have power - there is a force within us that, if stirred and guided, can change everything. The fact that any segment of the US populace can stand up at all under the influence of the frequency fence, a tainted food supply and non-stop electromagnetic programming and hypnotism is quite something indeed. Nonlinear dynamics are the point - and we can't know from where we currently sit what might happen. We know what will be attempted, but we don't know what the outcome will be - not yet.

 

[Guardian]

Still class warfare isn't the greatest instrument of change, *see the Bolshevik Revolution*

Americans aren't Russians, we're a Nation made up of people from every race and/or religion on the planet....and we tend to be descended from some of the most ornery members of those various races and religions. Except for the Indians, our ancestors were kicked out of some of the greatest countries in the world (at the time) ;D

Never before in the history of humanity have we, the ordinary "99%" had the ability to communicate with each other instantaneously, over vast distances...in several different ways,

Perhaps....just MAYBE, the Internet is becoming the next "greatest instrument of change?"

 

[DGF]

One can only hope Guardian

 

[Guardian]

One can only hope Guardian

What do we have without hope?

 

[DGF]

Despair. Me I live for the challenge. I've no fear of that which seeks to dominate, as they will never dominate me, not without a fight.

 

[Guardian]

Of course the 'movement' will be co-opted at some point - that is elementary - but there is no reason to think that with zero violence

That is exactly what I'm watching for too. From what I've been told, professional riot raisers have already been spotted in several locations....but the protestors aren't buying in. There are dozens of guardians, old and new, moving in the crowds who've been well trained on how to spot the hired provocateurs and get the legit protestors to back off, sit down and "Peace them out"

Again, the use of advanced technology is making it impossible for the PTB to use their usually tactics. Practically everyone has a video camera, some of which are streaming to a cloud or the net, so seizing the cameras doesn't work even if they could seize hundreds/thousands of them. Look at what's happening to that one pig who maced the women who'd been corralled. He's been outed on the net, transferred, he's being sued, and he may lose his job. I bet his fellow piglets have noticed?

If the protestors back off, sit down and peace out when the professional riot raisers start throwing rocks through windows, and video record them doing it, the world will know via the Internet, despite the mainstream media. There's a very good chance the provocateurs could be publicly identified too.

There are incredible tools of protest available to ordinary people that have not existed before in our current civilizations. An "anonymous" citizen can internationally expose corruption and abuse with a few mouse clicks because he can join with tens of thousands of other ordinary citizens. I don't see how we could possibly predict what's going to happen, or even establish realistic possibilities, because this has not happened in our recorded history.

 

[Guardian]

Despair. Me I live for the challenge. I've no fear of that which seeks to dominate, as they will never dominate me, not without a fight.

Hate to tell ya hon, but you're already being dominated, BIG TIME...we all are. Until you understand and accept this sad fact of life for the 99%, you're really not going to be able to put up much of a fight.

 

[DGF]

That's one thing the ptb is good at is changing tactics. Instead of employing agents of violence, they're supporting the cause in effect attempting to control it's purpose, as in coopting it's purpose. Don't think for one minute these guys aren't employing game theory on these events.

 

[DGF]

Despair. Me I live for the challenge. I've no fear of that which seeks to dominate, as they will never dominate me, not without a fight.

Hate to tell ya hon, but you're already being dominated, BIG TIME...we all are. Until you understand and accept this sad fact of life for the 99%, you're really not going to be able to put up much of a fight.

I can't deny that, but they can't make me do anything I don't want to, therefor they don't completely dominate me. That is what I meant.

 

[mkrnhr]

When they control what you know, what you think, and what you believe, you are free to move only within the parameters they set for you. One sign of it is that one uses their words ("class warefare" , "bolchevic revolution" etc.) without understanding what stands behind (my american collegues used to use the word "socialism" without understanding its meaning, or at least, undertanding it from the corporate viewpoint). When one imagine he's free, that's the ultimate trap, and he's just feeding his own delusions.

 

[Guardian]

I can't deny that, but they can't make me do anything I don't want to,

Really? Wow...you're special. ;D

 

[anya]

My daughter and her friends went to Wall St last weekend to particpate in the demonstration. OWS is well organized to take care of the needs of the group, including child care, first aid, a library, food preparation and dining areas. They police their area and do not allow drugs, alcohol or violence. Attempts have been made and no doubt will continue to be made to start trouble. They seem like a very sincere, intellligent thoughful group and I must support their efforts to wake up the nation.
The following is an article that was published in "The Occupied Wall Street Journal"

Principles of Solidarity
The following Principles of Solidarity have been adopted by the GA as a “living document” that will be revised through the democratic process of the N.Y.C. General Assembly.

On September 17, 2011, people from all across the United States of America and the world came to protest the blatant injustices of our times perpetuated by the economic and political elites. On the 17th we as individuals rose up against political disenfranchisements and social and economic injustice. We spoke out, resisted, and successfully occupied Wall Street. Today we proudly remain in Liberty Square constituting ourselves as autonomous political beings engaged in non-violent civil disobedience and building solidarity based on mutual respect, acceptance and love. It is these reclaimed grounds that we say to all Americans and to the world: Enough! How many crises does it take? We are the 99% and we have moved to reclaim our mortgaged future.

Through a direct democratic process, we have come together as individuals and crafted these principles of solidarity, which are points of unity that include, but are not limited to:
Engaging in direct and transparent participatory democracy;
Exercising personal and collective responsibility;
Recognizing individuals’ inherent privilege and the influence it has in all interactions;
Empowering one another against all forms of oppression;
Redefining how labor is valued;
The sanctity of individual privacy;
The belief that education is human right; and
Endeavoring to practice and support wide application of open source.
We are daring to imagine a new socio-political and economic alternative that offers greater possibility of equality. We are consolidating the other proposed principles of solidarity, after which demands will follow.

from the “Occupied Wall Street Journal” Saturday, October 8, 2011 Issue 2



Similar occupied areas are sping up in cities all over the country. I hope for their continued success in bringing attention to the problems cased by banks, corporations and the politicans that protect them.

 

[luke wilson]

So these people are basically occupying space in wall street... Is this meant to lead to anything? The only thing I can think of is that, people will talk about it and articles will be written about them. Then everyone will pack there bags and head on home. I suppose atleast the word is getting around.

What I don't understand is that if they get there way, the protesters, there 'middle class' lives will be worse than it already is... If there way is to change things fundamentally and make it fairer then that means america only having its share at a fair and just price with regard to the capitalistic agreements it has all over the world especially with poor resource rich countries but maybe that is not what they want, maybe they just want the booty of war, conquest and suffering to be spread evenly amongst the citizenry..


EDIT: Further info; It is a well known fact or urban myth am not really sure that the american middle class is an unsustainable parasite upon the world eating away at resources in a gigantous parasitic consumeristic feed my insatiable hunger the world is my oyster to hell with the rest of it type fashion. Just like the hyper inflated house prices, this beast has to go down and it won't go down lightly!

 

[anya]

If you are interested please go to their web site. //occupywallst.org

d Oct. 15, 2011, 5:38 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Tens of Thousands in Streets of Times Square, NY
Tens of Thousands Flood the Streets of Global Financial Centers, Capitol Cities and Small Towns to "Occupy Together" Against Wall Street Mid-Town Manhattan Jammed as Marches Converge in Times Square
New York, NY -- After triumphing in a standoff with the city over the continued protest of Wall Street at Liberty Square in Manhattan's financial district, the Occupy Wall Street movement has spread world wide today with demonstrations in over 1,500 cities globally and over 100 US cities from coast to coast. In New York, thousands marched in various protests by trade unions, students, environmentalists, and community groups. As occupiers flocked to Washington Square Park, two dozen participants were arrested at a nearby Citibank while attempting to withdraw their accounts from the global banking giant.
"I am occupying Wall Street because it is my future, my generations' future, that is at stake," said Linnea Palmer Paton, 23, a student at New York University. "Inspired by the peaceful occupation of Tahrir Square in Cairo, tonight we are are coming together in Times Square to show the world that the power of the people is an unstoppable force of global change. Today, we are fighting back against the dictators of our country - the Wall Street banks - and we are winning."
New Yorkers congregated in assemblies organized by borough, and then flooded the subway system en mass to join the movement in Manhattan. A group calling itself Todo Boricua Para Wall Street marched as a Puerto Rican contingent of several hundred playing traditional music and waving the Lares flag, a symbol of resistance to colonial Spain. "Puerto Ricans are the 99% and we will continue to join our brothers and sisters in occupying Wall Street," said David Galarza Santa, a trade unionist from Sunset Park, Brooklyn. "We are here to stand with all Latinos, who are being scapegoated by the 1%, while it is the bankers who have caused this crisis and the banks who are breaking the law."
While the spotlight is on New York, "occupy" actions are also happening all across the Midwestern and the Southern United States, from Ashland, Kentucky to Dallas, Texas to Ketchum, Idaho. Four hundred Iowans marched in Des Moines, Iowa Saturday as part of the day of action:
"People are suffering here in Iowa. Family farmers are struggling, students face mounting debt and fewer good jobs, and household incomes are plummeting," said Judy Lonning a 69-year-old retired public school teacher. "We're not willing to keep suffering for Wall Street's sins. People here are waking up and realizing that we can't just go to the ballot box. We're building a movement to make our leaders listen."
Protests filled streets of financial districts from Berlin, to Athens, Auckland to Mumbai, Tokyo to Seoul. In the UK over 3,000 people attempted to occupy the London Stock Exchange. "The financial system benefits a handful of banks at the expense of everyday people," said Spyro Van Leemnen, a 27-year old public relations agent in London and a core member of the demonstrators. "The same people who are responsible for the recession are getting away with massive bonuses. This is fundamentally unfair and undemocratic."
In South Africa, about 80 people gathered at the Johannesburg Securities Exchange, Talk Radio 702 reported. Protests continued despite police efforts to declare the gathering illegal. In Taiwan, organizers drew several hundred demonstrators, who mostly sat quietly outside the Taipei World Financial Center, known as Taipei 101.
600 people have begun an occupation of Confederation Park in Ottawa, Canada today to join the global day of action. "I am here today to stand with Indigenous Peoples around the world who are resisting this corrupt global banking system that puts profits before human rights," said Ben Powless, Mohawk citizen and indigenous youth leader. "Native Peoples are the 99%, and we've been resisting the 1% since 1492. We're marching today for self- determination and dignity against a system that has robbed our lands, poisoned our waters, and oppressed our people for generations. Today we join with those in New York and around the world to say, No More!"
In Australia, about 800 people gathered in Sydney's central business district, carrying cardboard banners and chanting "Human need, not corporate greed." Protesters will camp indefinitely "to organize, discuss and build a movement for a different world, not run by the super-rich 1%," according to a statement on the Occupy Sydney website.
The movement's success is due in part to the use of online technologies and international social networking. The rapid spread of the protests is a grassroots response to the overwhelming inequalities perpetuated by the global financial system and transnational banks. More actions are expected in the coming weeks, and the Occupation of Liberty Square in Manhattan will continue indefinitely.
Occupy Wall Street is a people powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #OWS is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations.The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt, Tunisia, Spain, Greece, Italy and the UK, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people who are writing the rules of the global economy are imposing an agenda of neoliberalism and economic inequality that is foreclosing our future.
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