Revolution in Ukraine: Western-engineered Coup d'État?

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Laura said:
Thor, I know you are practicing your new Russian skills, but can you cool it on posting things from Russian sources except perhaps in the Russian language forum? Unless there is dubbing or subtitles in English, of course, or unless you undertake to also provide a translation.
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Thank you Laura. True I can not translate the youtube, so I will go to the Russian language forum with such finds in the future.

On this site _http://web.archive.org/web/20070930034959/http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1991/499101.shtml I found the percentage that voted for Ukraine independence of the USSR:

Cherkasy 96.03
Chernihiv 93.74
Chernivtsi 92.78
Crimean ASSR 54.19
Dnipropetrovske 90.86
Donetske 76.85
Ivano-Frankivske 95.81
Kharkiv 75.83
Kherson 90.13
Khmelnytsky 96.30
Kiev 95.52
Kirovohrad 93.88
Luhanske 83.86
Lviv 97.46
Mykolayiv 89.45
Odessa 85.38
Poltava 94.93
Rivne 95.96
Sumy 92.61
Ternopil 98.67
Vinnytsia 95.43
Volyn 96.32
Zakarpattia 92.59
Zaporizhzhia 80.74
Zhytomyr 95.06
Kiev City 92.87
Sevastopil City 57.07
In the early nineties Crimea had more autonomy, even a president. Then they wished for still more independance and Kiev responded by reducing their autonomy, including abolishing their president. From the above list it is clear that Crimea was most reluctant to leave the USSR. That few Vestern newspapers carries this story is surprising.


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Putin first needs to win the hearts of Ukrainians, and he is playing some of the finest moves:

In a confidence-building step, Russia’s Defense Ministry has given permission for a surveillance flight by Ukraine over Russian territory near the border between the countries. Kiev had claimed Moscow was building up its military presence there.
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from:

_http://rt.com/news/russia-allows-flight-ukraine-374/
 
Why is everyone silent about today's interview by the ex-Head of the Ukrainian State Security Dept.? This is a real shocker.. He named those who financed the Ukrainian revolution, he revealed those who hired the snipers and much more.

He named Mr. Firtash, the Ukrainian oligarch, and the latest news about Firtash is that today he (Firtash) was arrested in Vienna, Austria at the request of U.S. authorities: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/13/us-ukraine-crisis-austria-arrest-idUSBREA2C0UQ20140313.

Is anyone translating the interview into English now? Because it really worth it: http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1368925.
 
I've found the English version of the interview: http://rt.com/op-edge/mercenaries-at-maidan-ukraine-558/. This interview explains lots of things.
 
Siberia said:
I've found the English version of the interview: http://rt.com/op-edge/mercenaries-at-maidan-ukraine-558/. This interview explains lots of things.
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Thanks for sharing Siberia. I found the following RT video posted on SOTT recently really insightful, not to mention how infuriating it is seeing them fly under the guise of human rights: http://www.sott.net/article/275469-Agents-of-Empire-International-NGOs-justify-imperial-wars-and-subversion-of-democracy-Ukraine-is-just-the-latest

Not surprising though. It's just these kinds of things are not generally discussed or brought out into the open in Western countries (for obvious reasons) and it really reflects the ignorance of more prosperous societies.
 
Siberia said:
I've found the English version of the interview: http://rt.com/op-edge/mercenaries-at-maidan-ukraine-558/. This interview explains lots of things.
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I have compared the version on RT with the Russian version on _http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1368925 and inserted the additional information in [] as best I could.

Mercenaries took part in Maidan violence – Ex-Ukraine security chief
Published time: March 13, 2014 12:00
There is no doubt there were mercenaries at Maidan, the former head of Ukraine’s security service, Aleksandr Yakimenko, says.

The violence on Maidan which caused almost 100 deaths was organized by some opposition leaders who poured Western money and resources into the coup, Yakimenko told the Russia-1 TV channel. Now Major General Alexander Yakimenko is in the top five of Maidan’s hit list. He made it to that list while he was still in his office in Kiev.

Q: How did you manage to escape?

[Before this interview, the last public statement from Yakimenko was dated February 19th. The head of the security service announced the beginning in Ukraine of an anti-terror operation, but the general did not succeed to prevent provocations and avoid traggedy. Already on the following day tens of people lost their lives in the center of Kiev.]

Aleksandr Yakimenko: I am a Security Service officer.

Q: Where did those snipers come from?

AY: First shots were fired from the Philharmonic building. Maidan Commandant Parubiy was in charge of the building. On February 20, this building was used as a base by the snipers and people with automatic weapons. They basically covered those who were attacking the demoralized policemen running in panic, hunted down like animals. They were followed by armed people with different kinds of weapons. At that point, somebody opened fire at those who attacked the police, and some of them were killed. All this fire was coming from the Philharmonic building. After this first round of fire, about 20 people came out of this building – this was witnessed by many. These people wore special combat clothes and carried sniper rifle cases, as well as AKMs with scopes. There were witnesses, and not just our operatives, but also Maidan activists from Svoboda, Right Sector, Batkivshchyna, and UDAR.

The snipers split into two groups – 10 men each. The Security Service lost track of one of the groups. The other group took a position at the Ukraine hotel. Killings continued. In the beginning, when the shots were scattered, I was asked by Right Sector and Svoboda to mobilize a Special Forces unit and remove the snipers from the buildings.

Q: They asked you?

AY: Yes, Right Sector and Svoboda.

[That is; according to the word of the general, either Yarosh and Tyahnibok did not know about the snipers, or those who called the SBU (Secret service) tried to acquire an alibi. In any case the murderer came from the nest of the commander of the Maidan, Pairubiy - now he is a secretary of the Council for security of Ukraine in the cabinet of Turchinov - Yatsenyuk. Parubiy has not called special forces to fight the snipers.]

[AY:] I was ready to do that, but I needed Parubiy’s [he is now now the Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine in the Turchinov-Yatsenyuk government] permission to enter Maidan. Otherwise our officers would’ve been attacked by the self-defense forces in the back. Parubiy didn’t give such permission. No weapons could be brought to Maidan without Parubiy’s permission. Hand guns, rifles, scopes – he had to agree to all of that. We had some intel about discharged Ukrainian army special forces participating in those activities. Some reports claimed that these were fighters from former Yugoslavia, as well as mercenaries from other countries.

Q: So you think they were mercenaries?

AY: No doubt. [emphasised the former chief of the secret service (SBU)]

[The new powers are not going to look for mercenaries. Why dig oneself a hole? According to Yakimenko - this is one more fact in favor of the version of the foreign Minister of Estonia Paet: the snipers were hired by the opposition. Now we know who is guilty of the death of dozens of people.]

[AY:] Parubiy removed himself from the picture. This affected the events of the last week. He joined Poroshenko. Gvozd, Malamuzh, and Gritsenko. These forces did what they were told by their bosses – the US. They basically lived in the embassy. They were there every day.

[Yakimenko changes with his revelation the usual picture of the Maidan, transforming the European dream of a protest into an American. Nail and Malamud are people from the intelligence community. They worked in the security service of Ukraine under Yushchenko. Gritsenko, former Minister of defense, is the one who calls for war with Russia

Parubiy, is also a mercenary, only at a high level. Another leader of American interests is the newly appointed head of the SBU, Nalyvaychenko. When he (was last in that position) the CIA agents iwere the owners of the security Service and they probably will be again.]

Q: Is it true that Nalivaichenko allowed the CIA agents to work in the Security Service building?

AY: Yes, that’s true. He also handed personal files of his own employees over to the CIA agents to study. But their mission was interrupted by an armed coup. The Maidan do not appoint these people; rather, it’s the US that does it. It’s enough to look at the newly appointed officials: Parubiy, Gvozd, Nalyvaichenko are all people who followed somebody else’s orders, the orders of the US, not even Europe. They are directly linked to the American intelligence.

[One time Joe Biden - Vice President of the United States - called Nalivaychenko their man in Kiev. The general of the Ukrainian network of agents considered this an honour.]

AY: They sought [Their prime goal was] to delay the negotiations and prevent the incumbent president from striking a deal with Russia and Russia from helping to prop up the social and economic order in Ukraine. After that they were planning to depose the president and integrate Ukraine into Europe, using Russian money. Who was troubled by the victory of the EU and the pro-integration forces? Only the US. It was the only country concerned over a possible alliance of Europe, Russia and Ukraine. The Customs Union and the connection between Russia and Ukraine did not sit well with their plans, either.

[The had been prepareing for a breakthrough in Kiev for a long time. However, the revolution began earlier than expected, had been planned for 2015.]

They’d been doing it ever since Yushchenko was president, and we couldn’t get rid of them. Once we started to put pressure, they relocated to Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. The most interesting part is that many regional governments spent budget money to pay for the so-called vyshkoli, i.e. training camps for militants to fight with various types of weapons.

[As middleman in the Ukrainian revolution the US chose Poland. The Poles in Kiev have their ambitions and also a reliable cover.]

All the orders were given either by the US embassy or by Jan Tombinski, a Polish representative who worked in the EU mission in Kiev. Poland played an invaluable role in the coup. It has always dreamt of restoring its former power and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

[ On the subject of financing the Maidan, Yakimenko spoke seperately. Neither the ministry of interior or the secret service could stop the money flow. In two months period millions of Dollars were sent to to Kiev by the West.]

Ever since the Maidan kicked off, our security service registered a dramatic increase in diplomatic correspondence coming in to various Western embassies in Kiev. There is one more mystery. Straight after this influx of correspondence we saw some foreign money at the Maidan and in Kiev exchange bureaus: the new, re-designed US dollar bank notes.

Q: So they were bringing in cash?

[In December there was an episode in Kiev airport where a plane coming from US with diplomatic mail not subject to inspection. The plane was met by diplomats and an armoured car. Besides, local oligarch helped no less.]

AY: Yes. Poroshenko, Firtash, Pinchuk – they all poured money into the Maidan. With all their assets in foreign banks, they found themselves trapped. So they had to follow orders from the West. All they were supposed to do was back the Maidan; otherwise they would have lost all their assets. They were thinking about their money rather than their own country. Unfortunately we couldn’t prevent the casualties, the people, mainly those who had come from the Western regions, were sent into the line of fire. The Maidan militants had left the barricades after the sniper fire started. But time will set the record straight.

The whole story has affected the Berkut guys, the Internal Troops, the Security Service, too. But ordinary Ukrainians have suffered as well. And I don’t think they should have sacrificed their lives for Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Poroshenko and others to take their posts. Ukrainians have lots of patience. But one day they will run out of it and remove them from power. I hope that happens soon enough.
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This is truly bizarre and pervert - Putin Sex-toy!!!

_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/political-sculptor-creates-novelty-sex-toy-that-allows-you-to-stick-it-to-vladimir-putin-9181356.html

:referee:

Some idiots like this "political sculptor" have seriously idle mind to invent such things!

Maybe he should construct some RasPutin thingy of that kind... :phaser:
 
Again leaked emails:

Ukraine: War on 15 March?

Chopped emails reveal false- flag operation against the Russians


False flag operations bring the history forward and pave the way for the aggressor - see 11.9.2001 . When enemy troops are facing , you change like to the badge to the name of the enemy to commit assassinations , assaults or atrocities , and then outraged " fight back " . And already the most beautiful war is underway. How now emerged emails from U.S. and Ukrainian military suggest such operations in Ukraine could be imminent ...

Gerhard Wisnewski



As previously reported, a group called Anonymous Ukraine has a number of e -mails unearthed , for example, the German -Ukrainian rebels Vitali Klitschko.E -mails he did not deny until now. In response to a request to him no reply . Now more emails have surfaced that make planning a false flag operation against Russia seems to follow . Accordingly, the Deputy Military Attaché wrote in the Kyiv U.S. Embassy , Lieutenant Colonel Jason P. Gresh ( Diese E-Mail-Adresse ist gegen Spam-Bots geschützt, Sie müssen Javascript aktivieren, damit Sie es sehen können ) , on 9 March 2014 an e- mail to Colonel Igor Protsyk ( Diese E-Mail-Adresse ist gegen Spam-Bots geschützt, Sie müssen Javascript aktivieren, damit Sie es sehen können ) , head of the Commission for bilateral military cooperation of the Ukrainian army.

gresh.jpg"Igor ," the American wrote in it , " the events come thick and fast in the Crimea. Our friends in Washington expect decisive action by your network. I think it is time to implement the plan , which we recently reviewed . Your task is to cause some problems to the transport hub in the southeast, to provide the neighbors a trap. This will provide for the Pentagon and the Company [ CIA ] favorable conditions for action. Do not waste time , my friend. Sincerely, Jason P. Gresh , U.S. Army. "


" Make it look like a real attack"

The named Igor Protsyk turn wrote two days later , on 11 March 2014 at 13.50 clock , an e -mail to a Krivonis Vasil ( Diese E-Mail-Adresse ist gegen Spam-Bots geschützt, Sie müssen Javascript aktivieren, damit Sie es sehen können ) and offers him an attack on a Ukrainian airfield:

" Vasil , you must perform an activity in Melitopol soon as possible. There, an air transport brigade is stationed . Our friends cursed [ the Russians ] should one spot . I think you know what I mean. But is wisely and carefully. The brigade is now in combat exercises , that is, the aircraft takes not to harm. There are plenty of broken / old planes , with which you can do everything. The aircraft numbers , you get sent . Remember, it is like a real attack of the Russian Spec - Nas [ Russian Special Forces ] look like. The brigade commander is a smart guy . Details he will not know , but in an emergency you can rely on him / contact him. We warn him. "



" Kill with the knife of another "

Vasil wrote again on 11 March 2014 at 17.20 clock an e -mail to Oleg Kolyarny ( Diese E-Mail-Adresse ist gegen Spam-Bots geschützt, Sie müssen Javascript aktivieren, damit Sie es sehen können ) . Deadline for the company is therefore the 15 March :


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" Oleg , you have to make an appointment and organize unrest on behalf of Muscovite [ Russians ] at the airport in Melitopol . This one has until 15 March ... do you know why . First, you have to put yourself with Paschko Tarasenko in conjunction . You'd have to know him (....) . To you young people 10-12 come to the center . They are the best fighters of Trizub [ name]. The leader is Mischko that you'd have to also know . The details you can find out from him. One has to meet the people and equip them with the necessities. Acts on breastfeeding. Speak only in Russian! The 25TE Brigade is preparing fighter. Makes them no problems with the aircraft. There are a lot of old iron [ scrap aircraft] with which one can do everything. The useful planes are shown to you . You have to make it look like a targeted attack of " Spetsnaz " [ Russian unit ] . But without the dead. "


Of course, Oleg will do all that for nothing. But for traitor 's course money :

"Give me your information again . The money will go immediately. Do not worry . Follow the instructions . ( ..) Meet the decisions wisely. "

Adventurous ? Not necessarily . Model is quite obvious that decades ago , designed by the U.S. military Operation Northwoods . However, the origins of such operations are much older. Even the Chinese general Tan Daoji described the process in the 5th Century in his 36 stratagems . It says: " kill with the knife of another ." The attacks of 11.9.2001 can be seen also again , in the "List of self-mutilation ": "Hurt Yourself to excite compassion and pretend own weakness "

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At the last mail an aerial view of an aerodrome with the marked targets is attached , therefore probably Melitopol.

Addition to the rectangle with the oval says " military vehicle GAZ -66 " . In addition to the circle on the right is " shooting " and at the bottom left of the Cross : " 2 aircraft IL -76 ." That should be the scrap machinery .

Is it not later than 15 March so far as ? Because at 16 March there is the referendum in the Crimea ...
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Source: _http://www.gerhard-wisnewski.de/Multilingual/english/War-on-15-March.html]http://www.gerhard-wisnewski.de/Multilingual/english/War-on-15-March.html
 
Pashalis said:
James Corbett and Ryan Dawson on Crimea & Ukraine, Putin and the polarized media coverage:
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So, Corbett has joined the ranks of 'the USA is evil, but Russia is no better' camp. I saw some people mentioning this on FB with his "Enemy of my Enemy" video, which Pashalis posted in this thread a page or two back. While I'm glad Corbett addressed the reasons he's suspicious of Putin, the events he and Dawson discussed that I'm familiar with don't hold up to scrutiny when they're examined. They brought up the Russian apartment bombings when he rose to power, his KGB past, the murder of Anna Politkovskaya, the murders of other journalists, his relationship with the Russian mafia, and the Litvinenko poisoning. This last issue was investigated by Joe Quinn in a series, which also provides a context to understand some of the covert drivers of anti-Russia/anti-Putin sentiments:

Litvinenko - By Way Of Deception Part 1

Litvinenko - By Way Of Deception - Part 2

Litvinenko And The Apartheid State Of Israel

In Corbett's show, he even brought up that the murder of Yasser Arafat likely involved plutonium poisoning (that's how Litvinenko died), but then goes on to say how the Russians probably got the idea from the Israelis. Seriously. There's actually a lot of twisted thinking in this show, this is just one example. While Corbett could just be suffering from pathological infection, his reasoning here so specifically avoids Israeli connections, and that for me makes him highly suspect, imo.

The murder of Politkovskaya also appears to be covertly organized as it has many of the same characteristics as other known covert operations - namely that her death drew more negative attention to Russia and Putin than her actual publications. I would also suspect many of the sources that provided information to the murdered journalists as setting them up to be martyrs and political pawns.

You can also see on the below SOTT page that the timing of the Politkovskaya murder coincided with the US trying to get Poland to accept a NATO base with anti-ballistic missile defense systems:

http://www.sott.net/signs/chains/signs20061011_FromRussiaWithLove.php

Putin has a pretty clear statement about Politkovskaya's murder in an article on the above page:

"We have information, and it is trustworthy, that there are people hiding from Russian justice and nurturing plans to sacrifice someone as a victim to create a wave of anti-Russian sentiments worldwide," he said through an interpreter.

"(Politkovskaya) had minimal influence on political life in Russia. This murder does much more harm to Russia and Chechnya than any of her publications."

Putin's relationship with the mob is not something I know too much about, but I do know that some of the oligarchs Putin removed from power also had mafia ties, so I'm sure it's not as black and white as Corbett was making it seem. Dawson did state that crime has since gone down, and that he seemed to use the alliance to get into power. And while Putin is playing chess with the EU and US, he's doing the same with the current oligarchs in Russia since they have a lot to loose from proposed sanctions. Putin's putting them in check as well. I'm also not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere, but Russia has a significant underground economy. A report by the Global Financial Integrity says their underground economy was at 40% of their GDP in 2011. Might this also be a strategy to show a 'weaker' economy on paper than it actually is?
 
Altair said:
Again leaked emails:

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Source: _http://www.gerhard-wisnewski.de/Multilingual/english/War-on-15-March.html]http://www.gerhard-wisnewski.de/Multilingual/english/War-on-15-March.html
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Is it the same Wisnewski?

Google translation of a Wikipedia entry

During his school years in Frankfurt am Main , he was working as a journalist. After his graduation in 1979 he worked for the Frankfurter news, flash tip, Frankfurter Neue Presse and the image of Frankfurt. 1981 to 1990 he studied Political Science in Munich. He works simultaneously for various newspapers Munich (AZ, Tz, Munich city newspaper, Star -Munich, PM Magazine).

Since 1986 Wisnewski is a full freelance journalist, writer and filmmaker.

Wisnewski became acquainted with a conspiracy theory books about the Red Army Faction, the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001 and the moon landing. ...

In his 2012 book "The Titanic assassination" Wisnewski doubted that the Titanic sank by the collision with an iceberg.
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Anything that could validate that "leak"?
 
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Altair said:
Again leaked emails:

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Source: _http://www.gerhard-wisnewski.de/Multilingual/english/War-on-15-March.html]http://www.gerhard-wisnewski.de/Multilingual/english/War-on-15-March.html
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Is it the same Wisnewski?

Google translation of a Wikipedia entry

During his school years in Frankfurt am Main , he was working as a journalist. After his graduation in 1979 he worked for the Frankfurter news, flash tip, Frankfurter Neue Presse and the image of Frankfurt. 1981 to 1990 he studied Political Science in Munich. He works simultaneously for various newspapers Munich (AZ, Tz, Munich city newspaper, Star -Munich, PM Magazine).

Since 1986 Wisnewski is a full freelance journalist, writer and filmmaker.

Wisnewski became acquainted with a conspiracy theory books about the Red Army Faction, the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001 and the moon landing. ...

In his 2012 book "The Titanic assassination" Wisnewski doubted that the Titanic sank by the collision with an iceberg.
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Anything that could validate that "leak"?
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Yes, Google ) Just google "anonymous ukraine Igor Protsyk" and you will find many other sources that cite the leaked emails, e.g.:
http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/alert-anonymous-hacks-email-of-us-attache-proof-us-staging-false-flag-for-ww3-kickoff-with-russia
https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/?p=17628&cpage=1
http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2014/03/proof-us-staging-false-flag-for-ww3-kickoff-with-russia-video-2451078.html
 
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