Russia Begins Operations in Syria: End Game for the US Empire?

herondancer said:
mkrnhr said:
Skyalmian said:
On the street everyone is happy, they all say exactly the words "Great Russia, Putin the Great, Putin the Caesar"..."

Saw that quote last night and couldn't find it. Quite interesting.

Here you go: http://www.sott.net/article/303199-Syrian-publics-reaction-to-Russian-leadership-Putin-the-Great-Putin-the-Caesar

How wonderfully amazing that they equate Putin with our Caesar! Especially as we know how demonized he was in the history books like Putin is (was) now. It is so consoling that they chose Caesar over any other 'less conscious' hero model. Amazingly is little ways the dots are being connected. The timing could not be better for the launching of Laura's book on Caesar. I think people as so fed up, finally, with the current leaders that they truly are looking for a new (non hollywood) real leader/hero.

The world couldn't ask for a better role model thankfully. I hope that eventually all may be modelled on Putin's plans for his homeland, his people. Long way to go but it seems the EU may be coming slowly out of its deep slumber. Caesars time here was far from in vain, thanks to him Putin will realize the change initiated centuries ago, in his/our lifetime. :)
 
Article by Ghassan Kadi:
http://thesaker.is/the-world-disorder/

SouthFront:
http://thesaker.is/international-military-review-syria-oct-3-2015/
 
angelburst29 said:
Looks like more domino's falling down around Obama? All three of Obama’s proposed ‘trade’ deals are taking a dive.

[...]

As things now stand regarding these ‘trade’ deals, Obama will either need to eliminate some of his demands, or else the European Commission won’t be able to muster enough of its members to support Obama’s proposed treaty with the EU, the TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership). Also, some key European nations might reject Obama’s proposed treaty on regulations regarding financial and other services: TISA (Trade In Services Agreement). All three of Obama’s proposed ‘trade’ deals, including the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) between the U.S. and Asian countries, are the actual culmination of Obama’s Presidency, and they’re all about far more than just trade and economics. The main proposed deal with Europe might now be dead.

On September 27th, France’s newspaper SouthWest featured an exclusive interview with Matthias Fekl, France’s Secretary of State for Foreign Trade, in which he said that “France is considering all options, including outright termination of negotiations” on the TTIP. He explained that, ever since the negotiations began in 2013, “These negotiations have been and are being conducted in a total lack of transparency,” and that France has, as of yet, received “no serious offer from the Americans.”

The reasons for this stunning public rejection had probably already been accurately listed more than a year ago. After all, France has, throughout all of the negotiations, received “no serious offer from the Americans”; not now, and not back at the start of the negotiations in 2013. The U.S. has been steadfast. Jean Arthuis, a member of the European Parliament, and formerly France’s Minister of Economy and Finance, headlined in Le Figaro, on 10 April 2014, “7 good reasons to oppose the transatlantic treaty”. There is no indication that the situation has changed since then, as regards the basic demands that President Obama is making.

It's fascinating that this is happening now, if it is, considering the references that Putin made on his speech to the TTIP:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/09/28/read-putins-u-n-general-assembly-speech/

Putin said:
Ladies and gentlemen, I have mentioned these common space of economic cooperation on purpose. Not long ago, it seemed that in the economic sphere, with its objective market loss, we would launch a leaf (ph) without dividing lines. We would build on transparent and jointly formulated rules, including the WTO principles, stipulating the freedom of trade, and investment and open competition.

Nevertheless, today, unilateral sanctions circumventing the U.N. Charter have become commonplace, in addition to pursuing political objectives. The sanctions serve as a means of eliminating competitors.

I would like to point out another sign of a growing economic selfishness. Some countries [have] chosen to create closed economic associations, with the establishment being negotiated behind the scenes, in secret from those countries' own citizens, the general public, business community and from other countries.

Other states whose interests may be affected are not informed of anything, either. It seems that we are about to be faced with an accomplished fact that the rules of the game have been changed in favor of a narrow group of the privileged, with the WTO having no say. This could unbalance the trade system completely and disintegrate the global economic space.


These issues affect the interest of all states and influence the future of the world economy as a whole. That is why we propose discussing them within the U.N. WTO NGO (ph) '20.

Contrary to the policy of exclusiveness, Russia proposes harmonizing original economic projects. I refer to the so-called integration of integrations based on universal and transparent rules of international trade. As an example, I would like to cite our plans to interconnect the Eurasian economic union, and China's initiative of the Silk Road economic belt.

We still believe that harmonizing the integration processes within the Eurasian Economic Union and the European Union is highly promising.

Could it be that Europe is in fact, finally, listening to Putin?
 
Windmill knight said:
Could it be that Europe is in fact, finally, listening to Putin?

My bet's on "yes" and because Putin knows politicians have vested interest in siding with a strong "winner" when the stakes are high.

Aside: I also like that he is being heard in Syria as well, what with some of those "moderate" terrorists now defecting at the first opportunity, and others due to their pay drying up (cash deliveries halted due to fear of being blown up). Everybody's listening, IMO. :)
 
Windmill knight said:
Could it be that Europe is in fact, finally, listening to Putin?

Well, maybe it is more like they realise that it is probably better to distance themselves from the US at this point, not because they really care about it or the people, or what Putin says, but because they see this now as an opportunity that benefits them, to stay in power and control people. Like a power game. Sort of like different psychos in different places fighting for poer and to get the best piece of the cake.

The EU president Donald Tusk had also something really interesting to say last friday:

EU president: 'Foreign politicians created refugee crisis to manipulate Europe'

The huge influx of migrants into Europe is being used by some foreign leaders to weaken the European Union politically, EU president Donald Tusk said Friday in Poland.

"For the first time in my political career I have heard politicians openly declaring that the refugees heading to Europe are their method of getting (us) to act a certain way," Tusk told a European forum in Sopot town on Poland's Baltic coast.

"Some say that it's their method of weakening Europe as a political entity," added Tusk.

The EU President did not name names or detail what kind of "behaviour" he was talking about, contenting himself with inviting his audience to "draw your own conclusions."

He also argued that the "military solutions in Syria proposed by some countries" risked forcing the eight million Syrians displaced within their country to follow the thousands of their compatriots seeking a new life in Europe each week.

"The refugees have become an element in the political battleground and sometimes.. they become a trading item, a new element in the hybrid war of which we have seen the first signs in Crimea and Donbass," he added.

Russia last year annexed Crimea from Ukraine, an act which was followed by pro-Russian rebels fighting Kiev forces in eastern Ukraine areas such as Donbass.

"I am not only talking about Russia," Tusk assured.

The term 'hybrid war' had already been used elsewhere to describe the conflict in east Ukraine where Russia denies any military involvement.

Tusk also spoke against the growing trend among European nations to erect new barriers to keep out the migrants from Syria and elsewhere, warning against building new "walls" which threaten the border-free Schengen area.

Source: http://www.sott.net/article/303244-EU-president-Foreign-politicians-created-refugee-crisis-to-manipulate-Europe
 
Windmill knight said:
Yupo said:
This is from Foreign Policy this morning. Made me laugh. As if CIA isn't in any way involved with ISIS. Note 'urgent talks' at the end.

'Though Russia claimed yesterday its airstrikes targeted the Islamic State, Syrian rebel groups told reporters that the strikes hit other groups, including some rebels believed to have participated in a CIA-supported training program. U.S. Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter noted that the strikes, which occurred in western Syria, were in locations “where there probably were not ISIL forces.” The U.S. representative of the Syrian National Coalition denounced the strikes, saying, “The Russian claim that they are there to fight ISIS is a baseless claim, and that was proven today. They are there to uphold a regime that lost its legitimacy and only controls 14 percent of the land in Syria.”

What - all five of them? :lol:

_https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/09/16/only-4-to-5-american-trained-syrians-fighting-against-the-islamic-state/

There are only four or five American-trained Syrian rebels currently fighting against the Islamic State, the top general leading the effort to build a force to counter the militant group in Syria said Wednesday.

And the five of them took "stage left" ....... long before Putin's military got there!

In Latest Embarrassment, US-Trained Syrian Fighters Surrender "Pick-Up Trucks, Ammo" To Al-Qaeda
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-26/latest-embarrassment-us-trained-syrian-fighters-surrender-pick-trucks-ammo-al-qaeda

Back in July we learned that the Pentagon’s effort to train and equip properly “vetted” Syrian rebels to combat ISIS had suffered an embarrassing setback when the group’s commander and deputy commander were captured by al-Nusra.

Less than two months later, Gen. Lloyd Austin, head of the U.S. Central Command and Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Christine Wormuth admitted to Congress that the effort to recruit and field a force of more than 5,000 anti-ISIS fighters by year end wasn’t on track. When asked how many soldiers trained under the program (which was launched in May) were still operating in Syria, Austin said the total was probably “four or five.”

“Let’s not kid ourselves, that’s a joke. This is just a total failure,” Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) said.

Training those “four or five” freedom fighters has so far cost US taxpayers north of $40 million, and as we noted earlier this month, it’s important to take note of the sheer absurdity inherent in al-Nusra capturing the group’s leaders over the summer:

Effectively, the newest group of US-trained Syrian fighters was on their way to fight ISIS, another group of US-trained Syrian fighters, when their leaders were captured by al-Nusra, an offshoot of al-Qaeda, whose founder and allies received US support during the Soviet-Afghan war.

Well, just when you thought things couldn’t possibly get any more ridiculous, the Pentagon now says the “four or five” fighters still operating under the latest effort to train “moderate” Syrian rebels were forced to hand over six “pickup trucks” and an ammo cache to al-Qaeda in order to secure safe passage to who knows where. Here’s Reuters:

Syrian rebels trained by the United States gave some of their equipment to the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front in exchange for safe passage, a U.S. military spokesman said on Friday, the latest blow to a troubled U.S. effort to train local partners to fight Islamic State militants.

The rebels surrendered six pick-up trucks and some ammunition, or about one-quarter of their issued equipment, to a suspected Nusra intermediary on Sept. 21-22 in exchange for safe passage, said Colonel Patrick Ryder, a spokesman for U.S. Central Command, in a statement.


The Largest US Foreign Policy Blunder Since Vietnam Is Complete: Iran Readies Massive Syrian Ground Invasion
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-03/largest-us-foreign-policy-blunder-vietnam-complete-iran-readies-massive-syrian-groun

On Thursday, in “Mid-East Coup: As Russia Pounds Militant Targets, Iran Readies Ground Invasions While Saudis Panic”, we attempted to cut through all of the Western and Russian media propaganda on the way to describing what Moscow’s involvement in Syria actually portends for the global balance of power. Here are a few excerpts that summarize what’s taking shape in the Middle East:


Putin looks to have viewed this as the ultimate geopolitical win-win. That is, Russia gets to i) expand its influence in the Middle East in defiance of Washington and its allies, a move that also helps to protect Russian energy interests and preserves the Mediterranean port at Tartus, and ii) support its allies in Tehran and Damascus thus preserving the counterbalance to the US-Saudi-Qatar alliance.

Meanwhile, Iran gets to enjoy the support of the Russian military juggernaut on the way to protecting the delicate regional nexus that is the source of Tehran’s Mid-East influence. It is absolutely critical for Iran to keep Assad in power, as the loss of Syria to the West would effectively cut the supply line between Iran and Hezbollah.

It would be difficult to overstate the significance of what appears to be going on here. This is nothing short of a Middle Eastern coup, as Iran looks to displace Saudi Arabia as the regional power broker and as Russia looks to supplant the US as the superpower puppet master.

Solidifying the Assad regime in Syria serves to shore up Hezbollah and presents Tehran with an opportunity to assert itself in the name of combatting terror. The latter point there is critical. The West has long contended that Iran is the world’s foremost state sponsor of terror, and the Pentagon has variously accused the Quds Force of orchestrating attacks on US soldiers in Iraq after cooperation between Washington and Tehran broke down in the wake of Bush’s “axis of evil” comment.

Indeed, Iran was accused of masterminding a plot to kill the Saudi ambassador at a Washington DC restaurant in 2011.

Now, the tables have turned. It is the US, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar who stand accused of sponsoring Sunni extremists and it is Iran, and specifically the Revolutionary Guard, that gets to play hero.

Of course this would be largely impossible without Moscow’s stamp of superpower approval. The optics around the P5+1 nuclear deal were making it difficult for Tehran to be too public in its efforts to bolster Assad. That doesn’t mean Tehran’s support for the regime in Syria hasn’t been well documented for years, it simply means that Iran needed to observe some semblance of caution, lest its role in Syria should end up torpedoing the nuclear negotiations. Now that Moscow is officially involved, that caution is no longer obligatory and Iran is now moving to support Russian airstrikes with an outright ground incursion.


Since late 2012 Iran has played a lead role in organizing, training and funding local pro-regime militias in Syria, many of them members of Mr. Assad’s Alawite minority, a branch of Shiite Islam. Experts believe they number between 150,000 and 190,000—possibly more than what remains of Syria’s conventional army.

What’s more, some experts estimate 20,000 Shiite foreign fighters are on the ground, backed by both Shiite Iran and its main proxy in the region, the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah.

About 5,000 of them are new arrivals from Iraq in July and August alone, said Phillip Smyth, a researcher at the University of Maryland. He said this figure was compiled through his own contacts with some of these fighters, flight data between Baghdad and Damascus as well as social media postings. “It looks like it was timed out to coincide with the Russian move,” Mr. Smyth said.

Back in June, the commander of Iran’s Quds Force, Qasem Soleimaini, visited a town north of Latakia on the frontlines of Syria’s protracted civil war. Following that visit, he promised that Tehran and Damascus were set to unveil a new strategy that would “surprise the world.”

Just a little over a month later, Soleimani – in violation of a UN travel ban – visited Russia and held meetings with The Kremlin.
 
SeekinTruth said:
Article by Ghassan Kadi:
http://thesaker.is/the-world-disorder/

SouthFront:
http://thesaker.is/international-military-review-syria-oct-3-2015/

SeekinTruth, can you please adjust your habit of just posting links?

Please help us by extracting what it is in the articles that you want to draw the forum's attention to. Like so:

There's another angle on this that might shed some light on why it happened. In this article [link], we read:

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Translation of a Russian item:
Russia tightly closed the sky over Syria for any aircraft, other than its own

http://vg-news.ru/n/117388 , 3 October 2015 at 10:12:

“… An American military expert, a former Colonel of the U.S. army Jack Jacobs said that the United States can’t stop Russians in Syria, because Russia has de facto established a closed zone over it, blocking the access to any aircraft with the help of its air defense systems, deployed both on land and on ships of the Russian fleet in the Mediterranean.

On Friday, 2 October, Saudi news published an interview with former U.S. Colonel Jack Jacobs, who announced that the United States can’t stop the Russians in Syria, as Russia has established a “closed zone” over it. This means that any military aircraft entering the zone of hostilities, can be immediately shot down as a threat to the Russian Air and space forces.

American sources claim that the Russian Federation with the assistance of deployed land-based air defense systems has established a closed zone over the entire airspace of Syria, while in addition, the approaches to the Russian airbase in Latakia are also closed from the sea to a distance of 100-250 km from the coast to the fleet of the Russian Federation, which is now conducting exercises in the Mediterranean sea.

Thus, the U.S. and its allies can’t even carry out a reconnaissance of the forces of Russian Federation.

A source in the military circles of the American contingent in Turkey reported that aircraft of the NATO, trying to get close to the forces of the Russian Federation, were illuminated by radar, while the source of illumination could not even be identified.

“The Russians have made it understood, that they can see everything, and not to get anywhere closer, or be shot down”, – noted the American military.

“Frankly speaking, we were surprised by the air defense system of Russia. We can’t even assume which systems are deployed there. We are encountering them for the first time, most likely there are the latest complexes S-400. I have no more clues” – said Colonel Jack Jacobs.

Bloomberg also writes [ http://www.bloombergview.com/a… ] about the creation of the Russian no-fly zone over Syria, citing senior American military. So, the commander of the NATO forces in Europe General Philip Breedlove stated that the new military infrastructure of Russia in Syria, including the air defense systems, de facto creates a no-fly zone.

According to Breedlove, Russia has created over Syria a “sphere of denial”, which American planes can’t enter.

General Breedlove believes that the “very complex air defense systems” deployed by Russia in Syria are not aimed against the “Islamic state”, which does not have aviation. “They are against someone else”, said the commander of the NATO forces in Europe.

“In the U.S. there were several years of discussions about plans to create Syria no-fly zones to protect the rebels and civilians. Two parties have long argued and could not agree on what should be a no-fly zone. Then appeared Vladimir Putin and in a few days just went ahead and did it”, – sarcastically commented the author of the Bloomberg article.
 
“Frankly speaking, we were surprised by the air defense system of Russia. We can’t even assume which systems are deployed there. We are encountering them for the first time, most likely there are the latest complexes S-400. I have no more clues” – said Colonel Jack Jacobs.

That's just hilarious on so many levels. Thanks for that!
 
Yes, it brings up a question, for sure. Why should US warplanes be in Syria in the first place? They were not invited by the duly elected government of Syria. The Russians apparently intend to see that international law is respected.

Mac
 
Laura said:
[...]

“In the U.S. there were several years of discussions about plans to create Syria no-fly zones to protect the rebels and civilians. Two parties have long argued and could not agree on what should be a no-fly zone. Then appeared Vladimir Putin and in a few days just went ahead and did it”, – sarcastically commented the author of the Bloomberg article.

This is priceless, thank you Laura!

The planes that are airstriking ISIS positions now are our Siberian planes. They are produced here in Novosibirk. Here is an article in Russian about our planes fighting the terrorists in Syria.

I've had a couple of sleepless nights already because they are testing them right here over my head. And now they are testing them even at night time, which is very loud. But let them fly! I wish them clear and safe sky and to come back home soon.
:rockon:
 
Laura said:
Translation of a Russian item:
Russia tightly closed the sky over Syria for any aircraft, other than its own

http://vg-news.ru/n/117388 , 3 October 2015 at 10:12

A source in the military circles of the American contingent in Turkey reported that aircraft of the NATO, trying to get close to the forces of the Russian Federation, were illuminated by radar, while the source of illumination could not even be identified.

While Putin's Russia takes on the "REAL WAR" - NATO plays games?

36,000 troops, 200 aircraft & 60 vessels: NATO launches biggest war games in 13 years
http://www.rt.com/news/317564-trident-juncture-nato-drills/

The alliance has kicked off its massive “Trident Juncture 2015” exercises which will last until November 16. Along with the NATO member states, seven more partner nations are participating in the drills: Australia, Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Finland, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Sweden and Ukraine.

The purpose of the exercise is to train and test the NATO Response Force, a highly ready and technologically advanced multinational force made up of land, air, maritime and Special Forces components,” said General Hans Lothar Domrose, the Commander of Joint Force Command Brunssum.


Cold War Mentality: NATO Should Prepare for War With Russia – UK Officials
http://sputniknews.com/military/20151004/1027984515.html

Former UK army officials said that the Russian military is more effective in comparison to NATO’s, calling on the bloc’s leaders to urgently invest more money on improvement of joint force capabilities and to “revisit Cold War scenarios, and this includes conventional, symmetric warfare in Eastern Europe,” The Sunday Express reported.

First, British Army officials appear alarmed by the ability of the Armata battle tank, which is an example of a new generation of Russian power tanks with nothing comparable elsewhere in the world. It can easily withstand any attack by NATO’s anti-tank missiles, both already in existence and those yet-to-be invented.

Russia is also outperforming NATO in terms of speed in deploying forces, as the latest alliance drills showcased, experts noted.

It took at least a month for Western countries to deploy 30,000 soldiers in the most recent exercises, while Russia is capable of deploying up to 100,000 troops within 24 hours.



ISIS militants amazed at accuracy of Russian air strikes
http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/01-10-2015/132210-russia_syria_isis-0/

New details have emerged about the success of Syrian and Russian combat aviation to destroy underground bunkers of Islamic State terrorist group. According to Ren TV, several ammunition depots and a command post of the Islamist fighters have been destroyed in the air raids. A division of the Islamic State, Iyad-Al-Deek terrorist group, has lost its leader.

It has been reported that the militants were amazed about the accuracy of the strikes on their positions.


Israel Supports Syrian Al Qaeda Rebels including the Islamic State (ISIS). UN Report
http://www.globalresearch.ca/un-report-israel-supports-syrian-al-qaeda-rebels-including-the-islamic-state-isis/5429363

A report submitted to the United Nations Security Council by UN observers in the Golan Heights over the past 18 months shows that Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) have been in regular contact with Syrian rebels, including Islamic State (ISIS) militants.

Citing the UN report, Haaretz noted that there have been several instances detailed in the report that shows close ties between Syrian armed rebels and Israeli army.



Last but not least - check out the photo's at this site - especially one further down the page titled, "All Hail the New Caesar."
RUSSIA IN SYRIA: DOOM FOR GREATER ISRAEL - Caesar enters the Levant
_http://smoloko.com/?p=7663

ISIS IS ISRAEL, ISIS is Israel Secret Intelligence Service, it is a covert Mossad Army, a proxy army of Israel and it’s goal is to drive Muslims out of Greater Israel. But now Russia has landed Syria and conducted the first airstrikes against the enemies of Assad. This portends the END OF the drive for GREATER ISRAEL WHICH ENCOMPASSES MUCH OF SYRIA.
 
angelburst29 said:
Last but not least - check out the photo's at this site - especially one further down the page titled, "All Hail the New Caesar."
RUSSIA IN SYRIA: DOOM FOR GREATER ISRAEL - Caesar enters the Levant
_http://smoloko.com/?p=7663

ISIS IS ISRAEL, ISIS is Israel Secret Intelligence Service, it is a covert Mossad Army, a proxy army of Israel and it’s goal is to drive Muslims out of Greater Israel. But now Russia has landed Syria and conducted the first airstrikes against the enemies of Assad. This portends the END OF the drive for GREATER ISRAEL WHICH ENCOMPASSES MUCH OF SYRIA.

Well, that one is skating on thin ice, but I understand the perspective (and like the Caesar gif). It also reminds me of what the Cs said at the beginning of all this mess just after 9-11:

14 Sept 2001 said:
Q: We have a series of questions about this recent event. Was the attack on the World Trade Center undertaken by Moslem Terrorists?
A: No.
Q: Who was behind this attack?
A: Israel.
Q: Is it going to become known that it was Israel? Will they be exposed?
A: Yes.
Q: Is this the event that is going to lead to the destruction of Israel?
A: Yes.


24 Sept 2001 said:
Q: (L) You said last time that Israel was behind the attack on the WTC. They are collecting evidence that Osama Bin Laden and company are behind it. Are they manufacturing this evidence?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is the truth going to come out?
A: Yes.
[...]

Q: (L) ... What is going to happen with the Middle-eastern situation; this Afghanistan or whatever?
A: Herding of population to much finer order of control.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of this control; this increasing control.
A: Preparation for war in Palestine.
Q: (L) But nobody has said anything about having a war in Palestine. They're all talking about having a war in Afghanistan. How does Palestine fit in here?
A: It is the ultimate objective of Israel.
Q: (L) Why would they want to have war in their own country? Well, aside from the fact that they've been having a war in their own country for a long time. I guess they want to bring it to a final conclusion. What is going to be the result of this plan?
A: Destruction of Jews.
Q: (L) Well obviously this is not what THEY are planning, is it?
A: No.
Q:(L) They are planning destruction of Palestinians, right?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) It seems that through out history whenever the jews have plotted and planned to destroy somebody, they are the ones who have ended up being destroyed themselves. Or am I misreading my history here?
A: No.

13 October 2001 said:
Q: (L) Well, that is what we thought up to the present. Next question: Is the anthrax that has been contracted by several people around our country a terrorist act against our country by foreign terrorists?
A: No.
Q: Where did the Anthrax come from?
A: U.S. government.
Q: (L) That's not very nice. (A) Well, the "U.S. Government" can mean any of many parts that all fight with each other. (L) Okay, when you say "U.S. Government," is that the government that we consider to be our government, or is that the secret government - some maverick branch that is operating without the approval of our elected officials?
A: Latter.
Q: (A) Well, that's imprecise. I am sure that at least one elected official is in on it. Certain questions have more or less known answers. What we know is that it comes from some part of the U.S. government. A maverick part. We don't know, and I don't know if we want to know from which part. (L) Probably not. (A) So, probably when they start to look for tracks of the Anthrax, it will certainly point somewhere abroad - to Afghanistan or somewhere else. (L) Right. That will give the government a reason to go and bomb somebody else. (A) So, is this reasoning correct? (L) Are they going to try to blame it on some foreign element?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, if they are going to try to blame it on some foreign group, can we have any idea of which group?
A: Iraq.
Q: (L) Are we ultimately headed toward bombing Iraq?
A: Yes.
[...]
Q: (A) Well, we still we have one problem: the problem involvement of Israel. We were worrying about what is going to happen in Israel. At present, all the anger is directed at the United States.
A: America may shift blame.

A year later, sure enough:

21 Sept 2002 said:
Q: (L) Is this bombing of Iraq that George Bush wants - is there any way to stop this gang from going to war?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are all of my efforts in that respect wasted?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, if my efforts to stop the bombing are not wasted, and yet the bombing is going to continue, what's the point?
A: Efforts will result in different return.

So, considering the fact that it was 12 long years before the events of the "big miscalcuation" (misjudging Putin and Russia?) leading to the revealing of the "Man behind the curtain", I reckon we might be looking at the fulfilling - in some way - of the above predictions.

While I'm on the topic, that was a very strange remark the Cs said back in 2003 when we were talking about Russia and China and who's on first and all that:

Q: .... We are in a hell of a mess. Any comments?
A: The situation looks bleak indeed. But remember the Achilles heel of STS: Wishful Thinking.
Q: In this case, how is wishful thinking going to help?
A: There will be a big miscalculation made. It will reveal the "Man behind the curtain."

There are two ways to take that:

1) That the US would be revealed as the humbug as in the Wizard of Oz....
2) The "curtain" as a sort of reference to the old Soviet "Iron Curtain" hinting at the object of the miscalculation, i.e. the "Man Behind the Curtain", i.e. Putin.

In fact, you could take that remark BOTH ways based on what has actually transpired.

Those Cs really are full of surprises.
 
Buddy said:
“Frankly speaking, we were surprised by the air defense system of Russia. We can’t even assume which systems are deployed there. We are encountering them for the first time, most likely there are the latest complexes S-400. I have no more clues” – said Colonel Jack Jacobs.

That's just hilarious on so many levels. Thanks for that!

Yes but there is a very serious side as well. All of the "superpowers" hold in reserve their best war modes, radar, ECM (electronic counter-meaures), and ECCM (electronic counter-counter-measures) for only the most serious of conflicts - iow they are willing to sacrifice weapon system Intel for the surprise element. If Russia is indeed revealing this, then they consider US/NATO actions to be a very serious threat.

You can bet that all overhead assets (of the West) are getting overtime tasking over Syria.
 
Vladimir Putin (Maestro) is preparing to send 150,000 troops to Syria in a bid to wipe out the evil Islamic State once and for all:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/609757/Putin-ISIS-Islamic-State-Syria-Raqqa-troops-soldiers-air-strike-jets-military

Let the music play!
 
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