Session 10 December 2016

[happyliza]

Ironic coincidence though! Doubt any bizarro interference though they would never say!

The US Air Force has launched an investigation into a training “mishap” that killed one airman and injured another.


US fighter jets involved in deadly training accident in New Mexico
http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/02/01/508732/US-F16-mishap-New-Mexico-Holloman

The incident happened on Tuesday near Holloman Air Force Base in southern New Mexico, when two F-16 Fighting Falcons fired an air-to-surface ordnance “on an active weapons range,” according to a statement by the base.

According to the statement, the training went awry and the ground-control party, which is tasked with providing guidance to military planes during training, was struck.

The injured airman was released from hospital after being treated for unspecified injuries.

The identities of the victims were not released. The statement did not identify the pilots either.

The air base said that the two F-16s were based at Holloman but belonged to another fighter wing based in Arizona.

The range was part of the White Sands Missile Range complex, a vast testing area where the US carried out its first atomic bomb test in 1945.

Entering service in the late 1970s, the Fighting Falcon is a multi-role fighter that can drop bombs and fire missiles. The aircraft has single and twin seat variants.

Hours before the mishap in New Mexico, four soldiers were injured after a helicopter crashed on the border between the two states of Tennessee and Kentucky.

The high number of crashes and mishaps involving military aircraft has worried American military officials.

Between October 2014 and April 2016, the US Navy sustained a total loss of over $1 billion in damage caused by fighter jet accidents, according to data by the Naval Safety Center.

General John Paxton, the assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, warned during a Senate hearing last year that American pilots were getting inadequate training due to a severe lack of funding.

 

[DreamGod]

Laura no doubt about it is hysterical , .....a lot of disinformation and information .,
here in Mexico ....so just going to disconnect of all this,and focus in my own life and state of mind and being.....regards....

I live in Mexico too, in fact, i live in the border with texas, so you can imagine how it could be earning in Mexican pesos and spending sometimes in USD dollar (Worst if my wife wants too go very often lol). The situation is very stressfull at all levels, here is like the old west without law and a lot of cartel problems (shootings and that stuff), but feeling like nobody wants us is not the way to solve the problems, I think that all that is happening about the wall and trash talking about mexicans (I know this is not the topic of the thread) will help us to focus our efforts in our own country, we need to focus in here and stop wishfull thinking that one day we will be in NY or LA or Boston starting a new life. We should work here and make the best for our people.

Best of regards piliangie :)

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Laura no doubt about it is hysterical , .....a lot of disinformation and information .,
here in Mexico ....so just going to disconnect of all this,and focus in my own life and state of mind and being.....regards....

piliangie, remember that the most important thing is to think with a hammer. And that means staying calm so that you are not led off the rails by your emotions. We can't let ourselves be controlled by fear, otherwise we'll disintegrate at the first big "shocking" event. So yeah, I think it's a good idea to focus on life and state of mind. But hopefully you can do some relaxation, breathing, meditation, and get your equilibrium back. But don't stop thinking while doing it.

 

[piliangie]

APPROACHING INFINITY... Yes ,and thank you :) good advice....

 

[piliangie]

Hi GERARDO, thanks for your comments,and I live in the border of California , so that's why I'm feeling sometimes insecure. You know I never wished to live in the states maybe because all my life , I could cross to San Diego every day if I wanted,since I was born, to me the states was pretty nice , clean organized,the malls wonderful, (shopping centers) and I even went to high school, in the 70's it was more relax going through the lines to cross,..to USA...that's why I know good Americans , as good Mexicans , as well.but I never wished to live there despite all the bad of México I always like my country really ....and when I say that not all Mexicans are dying to live there is because I know , but is also true that is too much people want to jump to the states here in the Mexican border is overwhelming the emigration of people from everywhere even from Haiti ,...so México is going to forget about USA in a good way is fair the same to us ....best regards

 

[Ant22]

Laura no doubt about it is hysterical , .....a lot of disinformation and information .,
here in Mexico ....so just going to disconnect of all this,and focus in my own life and state of mind and being.....regards....

Hi piliangie, I was born and have lived in Europe all my life so although I cannot say I can relate to your circumstances, there’s one more perspective that comes to my mind. I thought it may be worth sharing but if you feel it isn’t in any way useful, please do ignore it :)

All the things the C’s said about karma and karmic debt made me wonder quite a lot about any possible karma that I myself could be burdened with. Well, I can’t say I’ve figured it out really but I guess there is a possibility that I was born where I was born and I live where I live in order to learn certain lessons. Maybe it’s actually a part of some sort of a plan - although I must admit that I have no idea what that plan would be ;)

I do have very strong feelings about certain aspects of the history of my country and what was done to certain parts of the population a long time ago, and my father happens to be of the same ethnicity as the people who committed the violent crimes I have such strong feelings about (he was born long after it happened). When I was reading through Laura’s books I started wondering whether before being born I actually did live in that period of time? It also makes me wonder what side I would have been on because it would be ambitious of me to assume I was one of the ones that got hurt. I might have actually been the oppressor and although I reeeeaaally don’t like that thought, I cannot reject this possibility.

Also, there are actually plenty of stories about Nazis reincarnating as Jews (although I don't know how true hey are) so I guess the idea that we are born in a specific location for a reason is hard to entirely reject.

I understand I may be wrong here and this is just a wild guess on my part, but maybe you were born in Mexico, so close to the US border, for a reason? Maybe there are lessons and understandings you need to learn and this is the best place for you to achieve that?

I am obviously no expert on such matters, there is of course a possibility that I simply like the idea of being important enough so there is a plan for me, when in reality there isn't any.

In fact, I came across the below post by Chu in another thread. It was posted in a discussion on an entirely different topic but the comment actually says I'm quite likely to be wrong so please take the above FWIW:

(...) there is also the possibility which was given by the Cs once, that "you get what you can get" when you come into this world. Say for example that you are a soul in transit, and you need a certain genetic combination, but that the family you will be born into is horrible in many aspects. Well, you get what you can get. So, just because a child is born, it doesn't necessarily mean that they CHOSE those parents in the full sense of the word. Maybe they saw that you may be "good" for them to learn really tough lessons, or simply for a genetic profile, or for selfish reasons because those souls haven't had enough of this density.
(…)

Something to consider I guess :)

 

[Don Genaro]

Laura no doubt about it is hysterical , .....a lot of disinformation and information .,
here in Mexico ....so just going to disconnect of all this,and focus in my own life and state of mind and being.....regards....

Hi piliangie, I was born and have lived in Europe all my life so although I cannot say I can relate to your circumstances, there’s one more perspective that comes to my mind. I thought it may be worth sharing but if you feel it isn’t in any way useful, please do ignore it :)

All the things the C’s said about karma and karmic debt made me wonder quite a lot about any possible karma that I myself could be burdened with. Well, I can’t say I’ve figured it out really but I guess there is a possibility that I was born where I was born and I live where I live in order to learn certain lessons. Maybe it’s actually a part of some sort of a plan - although I must admit that I have no idea what that plan would be ;)

I do have very strong feelings about certain aspects of the history of my country and what was done to certain parts of the population a long time ago, and my father happens to be of the same ethnicity as the people who committed the violent crimes I have such strong feelings about (he was born long after it happened). When I was reading through Laura’s books I started wondering whether before being born I actually did live in that period of time? It also makes me wonder what side I would have been on because it would be ambitious of me to assume I was one of the ones that got hurt. I might have actually been the oppressor and although I reeeeaaally don’t like that thought, I cannot reject this possibility.

Also, there are actually plenty of stories about Nazis reincarnating as Jews (although I don't know how true hey are) so I guess the idea that we are born in a specific location for a reason is hard to entirely reject.

I understand I may be wrong here and this is just a wild guess on my part, but maybe you were born in Mexico, so close to the US border, for a reason? Maybe there are lessons and understandings you need to learn and this is the best place for you to achieve that?

I am obviously no expert on such matters, there is of course a possibility that I simply like the idea of being important enough so there is a plan for me, when in reality there isn't any.

In fact, I came across the below post by Chu in another thread. It was posted in a discussion on an entirely different topic but the comment actually says I'm quite likely to be wrong so please take the above FWIW:

(...) there is also the possibility which was given by the Cs once, that "you get what you can get" when you come into this world. Say for example that you are a soul in transit, and you need a certain genetic combination, but that the family you will be born into is horrible in many aspects. Well, you get what you can get. So, just because a child is born, it doesn't necessarily mean that they CHOSE those parents in the full sense of the word. Maybe they saw that you may be "good" for them to learn really tough lessons, or simply for a genetic profile, or for selfish reasons because those souls haven't had enough of this density.
(…)

Something to consider I guess :)

Interesting Ant22,

Although I've often thought something along similar lines, it just hit me even harder on reading your post. Having been brought up listening to Irish rebellion songs, in this life I've felt quite identified with the victims of British atrocities in Ireland - at least in the last number of years whilst learning here on the forum, making connections between past events and present. Although it's been a long time since I stopped buying into the "you were an important king/emperor/warrior in a past life" story, I hadn't really considered that I might have been "one of them" in a past life - well, I had considered it, but it just struck me harder now on reading your post.

I recently watched the film The Wind that Shakes the Barley, which contains a torture scene which I couldn't watch. The C's have told us that we contain all, good and bad and perhaps it's just the discovery and acceptance of both within us. I guess it's about learning to avoid the pitfalls of falling into overidentifying with feelings of being "speshul" and feelings of guilt for acts committed in past lives. In fact, thinking that I may have been one of the "bad guys" in a past life suggests a good opportunity to learn more empathy.

Thank you :)

 

[Nienna]

APPROACHING INFINITY... Yes ,and thank you :) good advice....

Just wondering, do you read SOTT.net? Either way, you may want to read some of the Focus and Best of the Web articles. They may help to give you a better perspective than mainstream media (or even other alt. news sources) is giving on what is going on with Trump and his policies.

I'm still very iffy on Trump. He has, already, done some good things, but he's also done some not-so-good things. Those not-so-good things could be being done because he has to keep his enemies happy so he throws them a piece of meat once in a while. Hard to tell, though. I'm just keeping the watching and waiting stance.

Don't let the hysteria of others around you become infectious. As advised by someone else, do EE, and especially the pipe breathing when you start to feel overwhelmed. And listen, or recite, the POTS when going to sleep.

There is so much disinformation and misinformation being thrown around all over the world that it really is hard to see through it all. But, SOTT.net should help in that regard. Take care, piliangie.

 

[piliangie]

Approaching infinity.
Yes I do read Sott.net everyday,and Sott.in Spanish , I think it depends where you are...and there's like a big effort to counterpose or put against,Mexico and USA ....maybe is better not make comments until things to clear, and as the Cs always say ...wait and see,or enjoy the show...I'm just a human person.that's all...regards :)..

 

[piliangie]

Ant22 ,Don Genaro...good point. :)

 

[Puma]

Hello Forum

Mexico is closer to the fourth world than the fourth density !!

It is ridiculous the amount of resources that the government of Mexican President Peña Nieto is spending on the media to make it appear that President Donald Trump looks like the villain, all this aimed at distracting the population from real problems caused by the government. Peña Nieto is the Mexican president who has spent more on raising his popularity. At the beginning of this year its popularity was in the index of 30% and after the effect Trump and the supposed "humiliation" that Peña did to Trump not to go to Washington to negotiate, his popularity grew perhaps 10% ... but it did it!!! They know Mexicans like politicians who are very "macho".

http://www.animalpolitico.com/2017/01/gasolinazo-encuesta-pena-popularidad/

Now "supposedly" Donald Trump threatened Mexico with an invasion. According to a reporter from the Associated Press, he and he alone had access to a transcript of a communication between the two presidents. In this Donald Trump says:

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there, You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-mexico-care-bad-hombres-us-45205127

All this happened curiously when the government was about to announce an increase in fuels...oh yeah. And this reminds me of what the C's said back in November 1995 and commented on this session also:

Q: (L) Enough. The other day I experienced one of those extended pre-sleep states, and it seemed that I was in a class and there was someone explaining things to me. What they were telling me was that during this Christmas season [the Christmas season of the dream], certain steps would be taken by those controlling the economy, and that after Christmas, in January and February, a whole lot of stuff was going to be put into motion to send the economy into a dive of major proportions. It was not clear that it was THIS year, but that it was right after a Christmas. Can you tell me where this information was coming from, and what was I experiencing?

A: This is a long and complicated subject, but we will do our best to explain it. What you were seeing was one possible future. The economy of our 3rd density world is entirely manufactured. The forces that control it are both 3rd density and 4th density. There are conflicting opinions in the 3rd density sector right now as to when, where, and how to institute an economic depression. This has been "in the works" for quite some "time" as you measure it. So far, the forces arguing against institution of a collapse have prevailed. How long this condition will be maintained is open to many outcomes. Also, please be aware that the state of the economy is entirely an illusion. In other words, the world economy performs solely based upon what the population is told to believe.

mmmm...The forces that control the economy.... Was Donald Trump chosen for this mission?

Well the C´s, Laura, and the crew have told us this:

• Trump is more than anything an entrepreneur.
  Trump is not a "green horn" (inexperienced) because of his contact in political circles knows how Washington is handled.
  Trump sees the waste of human resources as a bad business.
  The level of evil and corruption that exists in the current political class is so serious at this time that it is not necessary for a saint or a good person to correct things but a relatively normal human being.
  TPTB are guided by greed for money which is equal to power in this world. 4D STS agencies (known as Deep State) seek to establish total control prior to cosmic nature changes....BUT
  Nothing will stop the balance.
  Therefore, things are developing pleasantly. Help is near....OR MOVING
  

What if the help is Trump? The Trump of Apocalypse

oK. I have been reading other sources that seem to confirm the current Trump mission:

With the appointment of a former Goldman Sach’s top executive to the Trump Campaign, who also worked for Soros Fund Management, it should be clear that Goldman & Company is getting set for the inevitable. After all, Donald Trump is a well-known bankruptcy artist. He has at least four (maybe 5) under his belt and therefore plenty of practice for the BIG ONE. The “Biggest One of All Time” is of course the bankruptcy of the U.S. Corporation, Inc. which everyone now knows is effectively bankrupt because of the Federal Reserve practice of relentless Quantitative Easing (also known as money printing out of thin air).

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=37500

For those who want the short story...

Trump is a bankruptcy expert. He’s a specialist in this area of expertise which will come in very handy for what the United States AND THE WORLD are about to face...
to ensure a more orderly collapse also known as a reset. Executing such an unprecedented reset will take the presence of a true master. Such a one who truly operates outside of the central banking box and political sphere, but who is surrounded by financial engineers and economic technicians, to face the inevitable process of controlled demolition...Trump has secured the endorsements of Sheldon Adelson (Gambling Magnate of the World) and Carl Icahn (Corporate Raider without peer), as well as the likes of Chris Christie and Rick Scott, Rudy Giuliani and Michael Flynn, Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul, clearly something quite momentous is occurring under the radar...

Well... we have to wait and see.

 

[Puma]

Hello Forum

President Trump said to President Pena Nieto


"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there, You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Here is the answer of Pena... very very "macho"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A33jZ-btUvs


:O

 

[Gawan]

Hello Forum

President Trump said to President Pena Nieto


"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there, You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Here is the answer of Pena... very very "macho"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A33jZ-btUvs


:O

I think it was a media spin and Trump never said that, have a look here:

Bad media! Downright lie! Mexico denies Trump threatened to send military to chase 'bad hombres'

After the AP and Mexican media reported that Trump had threatened to send the US military to chase "bad hombres" out of Mexico in a phone call with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, the Mexican government has slammed the claim as "a downright lie."

 

[mabar]

Hello Forum

President Trump said to President Pena Nieto


"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there, You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Here is the answer of Pena... very very "macho"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A33jZ-btUvs


:O

I think it was a media spin and Trump never said that, have a look here:

Bad media! Downright lie! Mexico denies Trump threatened to send military to chase 'bad hombres'

After the AP and Mexican media reported that Trump had threatened to send the US military to chase "bad hombres" out of Mexico in a phone call with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, the Mexican government has slammed the claim as "a downright lie."

I think we will never know what did happend in that phone call, the fact that EPN denied it does not add much, being a professional liar, and Videgaray later in an interview with A. Cooper at CNN, mentioned about the offering of help? from Trump, and working constrctive-whatever that would mean, etc... _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CggpnjumcSA , but something is cooking up, and changes are being done aswell ...

--using google traductor

Law of Internal Security: "The Government of Mexico is about to give a self-coup of State" (video)
Al-Dabi Olvera
RT
Mie, 15 Feb 2017 07:30 UTC
Mexico's civil society organizations warned that with the passage of the Internal Security Law, the Army would legalize its actions during the war against drug trafficking.

After little more than 10 years of the beginning of an open war against drug trafficking in Mexico, legislation is about to be approved to legalize the actions of the Armed Forces in public security tasks

"Autogolpe de Estado", as politician Denise Dresser called the so-called "Interior Security Law" during a press conference that brought together a large group of civil society organizations and academics from Mexico.

Organizations, including Amnesty International, warned that if the Internal Security Act was passed, the Army would have "open letter" to carry out prosecution, arrest and intelligence duties , as well as using "any method of gathering information" .

Background

For 10 years, the Army has been involved in controversies such as the massacre of the Mexican town of Tlatlaya in 2014. There are also suspicions that it was aware at all times of the disappearance the same year of 43 students from the normal rural Ayotzinapa , A case that shocked Mexico.

In the journalistic investigation cadenademando.org , there is an analysis of the 34 recommendations that the National Human Rights Commission of Mexico (CNDH) has done to the Army since 2007 to date. In the recommendations there is evidence that 94% of the military authorities attempted to evade their responsibility. And that in 18 cases of aggression, the Army altered scenes of the crime, sometimes sowing weapons, in others exhuming bodies of victims.

José Guevara, of the Mexican Commission for the Defense and Promotion of Human Rights (CMDPDH), added that, from 2006 to 2014, the Armed Forces arbitrarily detained 64,000 citizens. In addition, figures from the National Human Rights Commission from 2006 to 2011 revealed 390 complaints of forced disappearance by the Army in this body.

He also said that before the Mexican Public Prosecutor's Office there are 1,273 complaints against the Armed Forces for tortures such as blows with firearms in the face for confessions, rape, electric touches and suffocation with plastic bags.

Consequences

Last week, images of a Mexican Navy helicopter gunship firing into a residential neighborhood of Nayarit state in the middle of the night recalled scenes of war from Syria and Iraq. Although the Navy of Mexico slaughtered 'El H1', ​​leader of the cartel of the Beltran Leyva, during all the confrontations died another 15 people . As there is no independent investigation into the case, it is not known whether all the people killed had to do with the capo or not.

In October 2016, the powerful General Salvador Cienfuegos, secretary of National Defense, spoke of the fatigue of the military to be on the streets. "The legal framework asks legislators, not me, I do not make laws," he would have said back then.

The final ruling of the National Security Law is unknown by legislators from opposition parties, who proposed that the issue be discussed more broadly on Wednesday, February 15, reported the weekly Proceso .
"Instead of returning to the soldiers, the government allows the country to be overthrown," Dresser concluded.
Academics and activists also warned that, given the widespread scenario of murders and the emergence of graves in Mexico , the new law would armor the Army to prevent soldiers from being called to account under national and even international laws.

Santiago Aguirre, deputy director of the Miguel Agustín Pro Human Rights Center, warned that the concept of "internal security" proposed by the new law dilutes the border between national security and public security; A characteristic of "authoritarian regimes".

The most important debate in decades

Alejandro Madrazo of the drug policy program of the Center for Economic Research and Teaching called the debate on the Internal Security Law "one of the most important decisions in decades."

He urged that the legislation be made according to the available data, since the joint operations between Police and Army during the presidency of Felipe Calderón shot the homicides in the country: from 8 per 100,000 inhabitants to 24 per 100,000 inhabitants.
"Deaths that are not investigated. They are dismissed as hitmen because they are supposed to be walking badly," he says.
The academic advised: "If the civil government surrenders, the military apparatus would expand and more and more functions would be transferred to military organs."

Jose Guevara of the CMDPDH warned that with the new law, all internal information generated by the fight against organized crime would be labeled 'classified' for reasons of national security, that is, it would keep a padlock to evade the laws of access to Information from Mexico.
"It is ten years since this policy has fomented, tolerated and formed these human rights violations: we are facing a catastrophic scenario for the country," he warns.

I was really surprised with the caliber? marines used in a residential area in Tepic, Nayarit!!!

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[MikaelYosef]

A: Things are about to get VERY interesting. We cannot say more!

Q: (L) Well, at least we know things are about to get, "VERY interesting", even if we don't know exactly how...

(Timótheos) Earth Changes-wise, we have all the rocking and rolling with all the quakes going on.

(Andromeda) And fireballs.

(Pierre) Space rocks.

A: Thrills and chills.

Q: (Timótheos) "Chills" as in... cold?

(Galatea) It could be a pun. Chills up your spine? The ice age will come...

(L) I hadn't thought of that. Well, maybe it's not a pun... {Laughter} I guess we're thankful we know at least something is going on...

A: Help is back on the move!! Goodbye.

(Pierre) That's a joke. Last session, they said help was near. And I said, "Yeah, it stopped!" I think that was a reference to that joke.

I realise I'm questioning this, but the term 'VERY' in capitals implies significant. Given there's no timeframe, I'm sure their statement will eventually be correct. But for us in human form, a short term reference is kinda significant. Please correct me where I'm wrong and I might be missing some inside info where the above statement is actually true, but on a global scale and having traveled globally recently, the world remains as messed up as it's always been. Same bird, different wings, locally crazy weather, etc. Not so interesting from my point of view.