gnosisxsophia
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Yes you are correct, sorry I had entirely forgotten that little omission...
Thank you for reminding me
Session 10 December 2016
- Thread starter Laura
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Oops
Yes you are correct, sorry I had entirely forgotten that little omission...
Thank you for reminding me
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MikaelYosef
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Trying to tie up some loose ends from my past posts, particularly where I didn't previously reply.
I acknowledge my impatience.
I've since viewed those posts and I don't think 'thrilling' now is the correct term to be using, even though I perhaps was looking for more signs and indications that things were about to change. Collectively, they're pieces of a bigger puzzle or even different puzzles.
Yes, I realise it was selfish to interpret the remark as being for others outside of those who were directly receiving the message. The message was shared, but it was still assumptive to think it could be for anyone else than those who channeled it. That said, if the message was for the longer term and the reference to 'chills' had two separate meanings, it could have been foreshadowing the current events.
You are correct and I was wrong. The other threads have since helped to understand a wider perspective.
I think the events that have transpired since this quote are now self evident.
This response makes sense all the time. 12 months ago it was correct. Today it is well supported.
One of my several failings was in expecting an event or a sign immediately, and not being able to see things more clearly. I don't like saying I was a full blown doubting Thomas, but I was. I tried to re-word it in a way that made it less so, but it's a decent description. In saying that though, I still believe there's a need to question everything, and while I was wrong in being too skeptical with a limit in peripheral vision, I don't want to change in the sense that I accept things without theoretical criticism and challenge. So, there may be future threads that I also ask the same questions - hopefully it acts beneficially rather than just as cynicism. I genuinely believe in things most folk don't, but I think critical thinking still needs to be in the mix and reciprocally appreciate questioning of my responses too.
I acknowledge my impatience.
MikeJoseph82,
I kind of know what you mean that there doesn't seem to be any one event that qualifies for "a chill up your spine" but I think for me there are plenty of "Thrills and chills".
I would recommend these forum topics:
The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!
Volcanoes Erupting All Over
Earthquakes around the world
Trump era: Fascist dawn, or road to liberation?
"Pizzagate" Explodes
SOTT monthly Earth Changes Summary videos
Russia Begins Operations in Syria: End Game for the US Empire?
Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia
These are just some in which almost daily events occur. Maybe you just haven't found a topic that is thrilling enough to follow. :/
I've since viewed those posts and I don't think 'thrilling' now is the correct term to be using, even though I perhaps was looking for more signs and indications that things were about to change. Collectively, they're pieces of a bigger puzzle or even different puzzles.
Yes, I realise it was selfish to interpret the remark as being for others outside of those who were directly receiving the message. The message was shared, but it was still assumptive to think it could be for anyone else than those who channeled it. That said, if the message was for the longer term and the reference to 'chills' had two separate meanings, it could have been foreshadowing the current events.
Only what you see locally, exists?
If you don't see the tree falling in the forest at the other side of the Earth, you consider that event doesn't exist??
3 pro-peace ambassadors, being murdered in a 40 days lapse: that doesn't chill you??
Plus the list given above by goyacobol: may you tell me what are your thoughts after reading them? Did you change your view or do you consider I over-see or over-estimate? If I mistake, I'll be glad you correct me :)
You are correct and I was wrong. The other threads have since helped to understand a wider perspective.
I think the events that have transpired since this quote are now self evident.
This response makes sense all the time. 12 months ago it was correct. Today it is well supported.
One of my several failings was in expecting an event or a sign immediately, and not being able to see things more clearly. I don't like saying I was a full blown doubting Thomas, but I was. I tried to re-word it in a way that made it less so, but it's a decent description. In saying that though, I still believe there's a need to question everything, and while I was wrong in being too skeptical with a limit in peripheral vision, I don't want to change in the sense that I accept things without theoretical criticism and challenge. So, there may be future threads that I also ask the same questions - hopefully it acts beneficially rather than just as cynicism. I genuinely believe in things most folk don't, but I think critical thinking still needs to be in the mix and reciprocally appreciate questioning of my responses too.
Sodajaxon
Jedi
Aloha everyone! I want to share this video - involving this very subject! This is about the same Lamp, im pretty sure.
Charlie describes Jacob's Ladder as 33 vertebra in our spine, the "Chrism' Oil activating the pineal gland (the lamp?, i think) & this is where we meet God face to face!
He describes the original 28-day, 13 month year and how once a month our, everyones (men & women). Our bodies produce the female-energy oil milk & the male-energy honey.
Spinal fluid, 'oil,milk.honey'etc-
Very striking take on this lamp oil parable, (which frankly scares the crap out of me, because i dont have any of this oil & im a mechanic too!)
Charlies video's truly resonate with me in a big way!
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let me know what you all think
thanks again~
Charlie describes Jacob's Ladder as 33 vertebra in our spine, the "Chrism' Oil activating the pineal gland (the lamp?, i think) & this is where we meet God face to face!
He describes the original 28-day, 13 month year and how once a month our, everyones (men & women). Our bodies produce the female-energy oil milk & the male-energy honey.
Spinal fluid, 'oil,milk.honey'etc-
Very striking take on this lamp oil parable, (which frankly scares the crap out of me, because i dont have any of this oil & im a mechanic too!)
Charlies video's truly resonate with me in a big way!
FreakSense TV
Charlie Freak is the author of the riveting Book Series on the 150 Most Important Rock Albums in Music History. These 150 books represent a balanced journey ...
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let me know what you all think
thanks again~
"The Russian government is thinking of regulating the prices of grains, pasta, eggs, potatoes, etc. 30 years after the collapse of the Soviet economy, it wants to go back the same way." It seems written for some in Argentina ...
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Today I was listening to one of the songs on the CD and there was a song and I could help wonder whom that voice belonged to. When I tried to look up Nada Shakti, I found an interview and her astrology chart (She was born 10.4.1941 in Prague.) on a Czech website. Below are some notes from the machine translation, which could have been better; there are some jarring issues.
What was at the beginning of your spiritual journey, what caused that dedicated her life to yoga, meditation and spiritual work?
It all started in childhood, when I felt a strong desire for freedom. I looked around and knew that I actually just kind of an observer of events. Internally I knew that what I see is not the whole picture, something is missing and I wanted "something" to get to know. It was interesting that I inkarnovala just in Czechoslovakia in Prague in a time of war, when there was not freedom.
Now, when I look back, I see that my mental Being deliberately namanifestovalo to be reborn in central Europe, in a country where after the war there was a revolution and to further repression, which had to re-work our way forward. The desire for freedom was very strong and the external environment constitute a part of karma, which I had to surrender. There are degrees of freedom.....
When I first heard the word America, has sounded in my Existence as a mantra. I was like I'm country she knew, from ancient times, and I knew that one day I will live because of me there's a job waiting, from which will emerge the mission. It was just a given.
Do you think that you lived in some of the earlier incarnation in America?
Definitely. My desire to go to America was very strong. I felt that this is my home. And when I then to America arrived, it was truly a homecoming. The country with me stunningly resonated, especially american Indians. Later, when I began to deal with yoga, I lived in California and traveled around Arizona or New Mexico, rozpomínala I look at some of your past lives where I used to live in this country as an Indian.
When you actually go to America?
From Czechoslovakia, I left twenty-five years ago. Some time I lived in France, in Germany and in England. From there I went to America. It is about twenty-two years. It is true that on my spiritual journey had some impact and experience of clinical death, which I already had in Czecho - slovakia. When I was going through your karmami, everything is so piled up that I wanted to leave from this world. And that's when I experienced a clinical death.
Was that how it describes Moody?
It was really so. I went through the black tunnel, walked into the beautiful light. Encircled me immense peace and well-being, my Being climbed closer to the beautiful light. It was so beautiful that I didn't want to go back. My time, however, has not come yet, so I felt my consciousness falling from the light back into the body. It was a wonderful experience, the experience, the first touch of eternal life. It was interesting that after what I've been through a lot, lost a passport and I can travel.
I asked for a passport more than ten years, and still nothing. It was only after I gained some experience and learned some life lessons, have a passport appeared. Everything perfectly, it was incredible to synchronize events. Away immediately. I left behind everything – the old energy, family, friends, everything I have made. My departure was a new beginning for me.
My Being was not in good condition, a lot I've been through, it was necessary to thoroughly cleanse, heal. I knew that I wanted to live in the real health that I want to get inner peace, to put the good of the world, in short, I began to work hard. I knew that's what I'm looking for, is in me, that nothing I can't find out.
The system of yoga was for you just a tool, a method, which you could move closer to the goal.
Yes. Yoga has been for me very important. And it wasn't just hathajóga but also breathing exercises, meditation and chants..... It was all perfectly natural, my problems disappeared, it was bliss and it all came as would of itself. The more I yoga donated, the faster was cleaning up the note, which it spread, I was starting to remember their connection from past lives, the life in India and I was very blessed, when he appeared as a master, a very pure being, an enlightened man from the himalayan mountains....
Yoga teachers is a lot, but to meet someone who has purity in the heart, true innocence, the immeasurable love and wisdom, it is rare. And he had all this. He just shone. He initiated me into yoga, he gave me a mantra and much more. It was confirmed to me that even a saying that "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear".
Your spiritual development and the private life had to experience a huge change, how you did it all take?
My spiritual development has accelerated. A day I spent hours of yoga, I created the scheme, I was starting to relax, then followed by the asana, breathing exercises, and finally meditation. Really helped me. I soon began to feel, how my Being opens up, as I go into more depth, how to pročišťuji, I give myself, as I approach the inner peace for which we all long.
Then I started to learn. I taught yoga at various schools, in Boston, at the university of Cambridge. I wrote also a book of Yoga and all that came out in Boston. I lived in peace, peace and quiet, when my inner voice said that I must again turn everything over and start again. At that time I was still married, I had a good place in Boston with my husband and we were great friends....
My inner Being, however, ached from everything is free, everything to surrender.... And so, even when viewed from outside, my life seemed to be smoothly and everything was perfect, I knew it, I no longer serves, that it does not add anything. My soul longed for freedom, and I wanted to cell pursue the spiritual path. The himalayan mountains were calling....
Sometimes people are coming and asking for miracles, looking for a miracle healers, psychics, yogis, fast cure...
It is part of the illusion. We think that someone else will do something, we are looking for the shortcuts, make it easy and make it fast. In fact, every being must go through their lessons, they must go through the development in its rhythm, a lot to learn and then turn everything over. External help will come for the asking, but the impetus must come from the individual.
It's actually strengthen the inner spiritual power, but the ultimate cure lies in connecting with our spiritual power, healing power within us, this is the power of love. Just so you can achieve a complete recovery.
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Although it may be easier to listen to the songs on the Deezer site, on the Discog site, there are images of the CD and accompanying information. Based on the images, I typed up the lyrics for easier access, since they will be needed if versions with adapted English of even some of the songs are to become a reality one day. Included below are the introduction and final comments by Nada Shakti as well as three screenshots of the CD for the sake of reference.
Nada Shakti, Bruce BecVar - Samadhi
View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 1990 CD release of "Samadhi" on Discogs.www.discogs.com
Samadhi by Nada Shakti & Bruce Becvar on Amazon Music - Amazon.com
Check out Samadhi by Nada Shakti & Bruce Becvar on Amazon Music. Stream ad-free or purchase CD's and MP3s now on Amazon.com.www.amazon.com
Introduction on the CD
The song lyrics with translation
A comment on the title Samadhi
Attachments
Thanks, @thorbiorn for the interesting music links. I wonder if that is the same music @Laura was talking about. Some songs are more melodic than others. Also rather than using Rama we could maybe just be more generic/universal with Divne Cosmic Mind?
The album is a playlist also found on YouTube for those not belonging to the Deezer site.
1. Gayatri mantra - Illumination Mantra
2. Rama, Ram - Praise to Rama
3. Sita Ram
4. Asato Ma Sat Gamayo - From Unreal to Real
5. Purnamahdah - Prayer of Oneness
6. Ya Devi - Praise to Divine Mother
7. Murali Krishna - Praise to Divine
8. Twameva Mata - Prayer of Surrender
9. Loka Samasta - Prayer of All Beings
10. Jyoti, Jyoti - Lights of Lights
11. Jaya Narayani - Salutations Power Divine
I find the music hauntingly beautiful. If you link from the forum you do not get the advertisements (even on a loop) which is a plus I think.
Even without a translation, the music speaks a beautiful language.
The album is a playlist also found on YouTube for those not belonging to the Deezer site.
1. Gayatri mantra - Illumination Mantra
2. Rama, Ram - Praise to Rama
3. Sita Ram
4. Asato Ma Sat Gamayo - From Unreal to Real
5. Purnamahdah - Prayer of Oneness
6. Ya Devi - Praise to Divine Mother
7. Murali Krishna - Praise to Divine
8. Twameva Mata - Prayer of Surrender
9. Loka Samasta - Prayer of All Beings
10. Jyoti, Jyoti - Lights of Lights
11. Jaya Narayani - Salutations Power Divine
I find the music hauntingly beautiful. If you link from the forum you do not get the advertisements (even on a loop) which is a plus I think.
Even without a translation, the music speaks a beautiful language.
After typing and posting the translations of the songs on the CD Samadhi, I found two spelling mistakes: In 3. RAm->Ram. In 4. Asato Ma Sat Gamayo, Gamayo->Gamaya
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Hvare-khshaeta. The Wiki mentions:
Regarding the name Rama, there is the following excerpt, in which I reduced the spacing between the lines: Session 20 October 1994
And later Session 30 March 2002:
The name: Rama has also been used as a seed mantra, with one site claiming that it relates to the chakra of solar plexus area and the element of fire.
The Sanskrit texts with analysis of single letters are usually Tantric and might share a similarity with some texts from the Kaballah elaborating on the meaning of the letters of the Hebrew letters. One session suggests the origin of the Kaballah to be pre-Mosaic Jews, and the origin of the book of Enoch, which forms part of the Hebrew and Christian Bibles to be a Sanskritian society. Might this indicate a connection between the two systems?
Session 16 October 1994
October 16, 1994 Frank, Laura, V___ Q: Hello. A: Hello. Music is Good. Q: (L) Can you give us your name? A: Cederra. Q: (L) I would like to know what is the origin of the Freemasons? A: Osirians. Q: (L) Can you tell us when the original Freemasons formed as a society? A: 5633...
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And later in the same session:
In the name Rama, a connection between the area of India, Middle East and Egypt may be indicated, since Ra was at one time an Egyptian sun deity. And the Wiki on sun deities connects Rama to the sun.
While there may be a link, it may also be just a coincidence. In Zoroastrianism for instance, the Sun was called
Hvare-khshaeta. The Wiki mentions:
Some songs have more names than others and will need more translation. Learning about the origins of the songs, may assist the process of translation and adaptation. To be continued...
Thanks again @thorbiorn, The references explain a lot about the possible origins of the names and meaning of the songs. Since many of the names are more like biblical character names such as Moses etc. they may not need to be changed to tell the story.
One more correction to the post with the lyrics. In the sixth song, where the translation begins "Salutatio" it should be "Salutations"
For a reworking of the songs there were two suggestions:
A: English so everyone can understand.
and
A: Melodies are very good so modify very little. The translated words will guide.
To fit new adapted lyrics in English to the songs, experimentation over a period of time might be required, and there may be several different solutions.
Finding sources for the lyrics on the CD was assisted by a couple of search engines. The format will be that I quote the lyrics with the translations again, and add a comment section for each song where I list what I found. I have put all into a huge quote, put the text quoted in quotes, and indented them if they were long. This makes it easier to copy and work on them in a new post or file.
Final words1. Gayatri mantra - Illumination Mantra
Om Bhurbhuvasvah Tat Saviturvarenyam Bhargodevasya
Dheemahi Dhiyoyonah Prachodayat
We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being.
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From Wiki:
"The Gāyatrī Mantra, also known as the Sāvitri Mantra, is a highly revered mantra from the Rig Veda (Mandala 3.62.10),[1]" The Wiki has very many translations. The verse is explained on this site Why, How and the Importance of Gayatri Mantra! - ReSanskrit which also has the Sanskrit as it appears in the original: ॐ भूर्भुवः स्वः। तत्सवितुर्वरेण्यं भर्गो देवस्य धीमहि। धियो यो नः प्रचोदयात्॥ For each sound and word, there is an explanation.
2. Rama, Rama - Praise to Rama
Prema Mudita Mana Se Kaho- Rama, Rama, Ram
Papa kate Dukha Mite Leke Ramanam
Bhava Samudra Sukha Danavam Eka Ramanam
Prema Mudita...
Mahadeva Satata Japata Devja Ramanam
Kashi Marata Mukta Karata Kahata Ramanam
Prema Mudita...
Mata Pita Bandhu Sakha Sabahi Ramanam
Bhakti Janana Jivana Dhana Eka Ramanam
Prema Mudita...
With loving and happy mind chant the name of Rama. It will destroy all the sins and all pains will come to the end. It is a happy boat in which you can cross the ocean of life. Even lord Shiva is ever repeating the divine name of Rama. Those dying in Kashi attain the liberation through chanting the Rama name. Rama is father, Rama is mother, Rama is brother and friend. It is one great treasure of all devotees to repeat the name of Rama.
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A traditional Bhajan, that exists in different versions of different lengths. Here is a longer one. If you Google it, you will see it was popular within the Sathya Sai Baba movement.
The verses of the song in devanagari from the longer text in devanagari:
"प्रेम मुदित मन से कहो, राम राम रामपाप कटें दुःख मिटें, लेत राम नाम।भव समुद्र सुखद नाव, एक राम नाम॥प्रेम मुदित मन से कहो, राम राम राममहादेव सतत जपत, दिव्य राम नाम।कासी मरत मुक्ति करत, कहत राम नाम॥प्रेम मुदित मन से कहो, राम राम राममात पिता बंधु सखा, सब ही राम नाम।भक्त जनन जीवन धन, एक राम नाम॥"
In a previous post, I wrote about the name "Rama". Since then, I have found several online resources. For Rama, I first a collection of meanings taken from various dictionaries. Later I came across KST (Online Sanskrit Dictionary)
The entry on Rama is very rich. I first entered "rama", among the results I went to "raama" which opens the page about raama in the Puranas and Itihas. On this page, I found a hyperlink "rāma" If you click on this you will find a long list of entries including:
"रामmfn. (-मः-मा-मं)१. Black.२. White.३. Beautiful, pleasing.m. (-मः)१. A name common to three incarnations of VISHṆU, viz:-firstly, PARAŚURĀMA, the son of the Muni JAMADAGNI, born at the commencement of the second or TRETA YUGA, for the purpose of punishing the tyrannical kings of the Kshetriya race. Secondly, RĀMACHANDRA, the son of DAŚARATHA, king of Oudh, born at the close of the second age, to destroy the demons who infested the earth, and especially RĀVAṆA the Daitya-sovereign of Ceylon. Thirdly, BALARĀMA, (the elder and half-brother of KRISHṆA,) the son of BĀSUDEVA by ROHINI, born at the end of the DWĀPARA or third age.२. A name of VARUṆA, regent of the waters.३. A horse.४. A sort of deer.The first dictionary I found may be more simple to use. As one can see there is quite a range of meanings. Another question is how useful this search is, although it can satisfy curiosity. Most of the names we carry have some obscure meaning, that few think much about, except in a few reflective moments. There are other words one could look up in this verse, but I shall leave it with the above example. If there is a need this page from the University of Köln in Germany has a string of dictionaries.
Besides being tied down with one-line dictionary translations, some of which are contradictory, as when Raama can mean both black and white, one can also consider what Rama represents and the function he plays as a role model of virtue in religious education. If one cares to Google this question, there is no disappointment. Rama is in the current Vedic tradition considered a divine incarnation and this fact alone is probably a justification for many chants. The Encyclopaedia Britannica has this:
"References to Rama as an incarnation of Vishnu appear in the early centuries CE. There was, however, probably no special worship of him before the 11th century, and it was not until the 14th and 15th centuries that distinct sects appeared venerating him as the supreme god (notably that of the followers of the Brahman Ramananda). Rama’s popularity was increased greatly by the retelling of the Sanskrit epics in the vernaculars, such as Tulsidas’s celebrated Hindi version, the Ramcharitmanas (“Sacred Lake of the Acts of Rama”), and the Tamil Ramayana by Kampan as well as innumerable oral variants and dance dramas.Rama and Krishna (also an incarnation of Vishnu) were the two most-popular recipients of adoration from the bhakti (devotional) groups that swept the country during that time. Whereas Krishna is adored for his mischievous pranks and amorous dalliances, Rama is conceived as a model of reason, right action, and desirable virtues. Temples to Rama faced by shrines to his monkey devotee Hanuman are widespread throughout India. Rama’s name is a popular form of greeting among friends (“Ram! Ram!”), and Rama is the deity most invoked at death."
If we had to translate, we could keep the image of a highly developed person. Elaborating on the role of a highly developed person, one might consider the function some souls appear to play. Here is an excerpt from Session 30 September 1994
"Q: (L) Is there any special power or advantage in praying in the name of Jesus?A: Yes.Q: (L) Well, if he didn't die and release his spirit into the earth plane, how is this power conferred?A: Prayers go to him.Q: (L) And what does he do when he hears the prayers?A: Determines their necessity against background of individual soul development.Q: (L) You said that when a person prays to Jesus that he makes some sort of a decision, is that correct?A: Yes.Q: (L) Well, how can he do that when millions of people are praying to him simultaneously?A: Soul division.Q: (L) What do you mean by soul division?A: Self explanatory.Q: (L) Do you mean soul division as in cellular mitosis where a cell splits and replicates itself?A: No.Q: (L) Does Jesus' soul divide?A: Yes.Q: (L) How many times does it divide?A: Endlessly as a projection of consciousness.Q: (L) And what happens to this piece of soul that is divided or projected?A: Is not a piece of a soul.Q: (L) What is it?A: It is a replication.Q: (L) Is each replication exactly identical to the original?A: Yes. And no.Q: (L) In what way is the replicated soul different from the original?A: Not able to give individual attention.Q: (L) Are any of us able to replicate in this manner if we so desire?A: Could if in same circumstance. The way the process works is thus: When Jesus left the earth plane, he went into another dimension or density of reality, whereupon all "rules" regarding the awareness of time and space are entirely different from the way they are perceived in your realm. At this point in space time his soul which was/is still in the physical realm, was placed in a state of something akin to suspended animation and a sort of advanced form of unconsciousness. From that point to the present his soul has been replicated from a state of this unconsciousness in order that all who call upon him or need to be with him or need to speak to him can do so on an individual basis. His soul can be replicated ad infinitum--as many times as needed. The replication process produces a state of hyper-consciousness in each and every version of the soul consciousness.11"[...]
"Q: (L) The passages attributed to Jesus in Matthew 24 and Luke 21, where Jesus predicts the end of the age and his return, is that fairly accurately rendered?A: Close.Q: (L) Is Jesus, in fact, in a state of suspension, voluntarily, in another plane of existence, having chosen to give up his life on this plane in order to continuously generate replications of his soul pattern for other people to call upon for assistance?A: Yes.Q: (L) If one calls upon him more than once, does one get a double dose?A: Define.Q: (L) If one repeatedly calls upon Jesus does one get repeated replications or additional strength, power or whatever?A: No.Q: (L) In other words, once one has truly made the connection, that's it?A: That's all that's needed.Q: (L) Has any other soul volunteered to perform this work?A: Yes.Q: (L) How many souls are doing this work at the present time?A: 12.Q: (L) Can you name any of the others?A: Buddha. Moses. Shintanhilmoon.14 Nagaillikiga.15 Varying degrees; Jesus is the strongest currently."
Some of the difficulties with the above song in terms of translation are also present in the next.
3. Sita Ram
Raghupati Raghava Raja Ram
Patita Pavana Sita Ram
Sita Ram Sita Ram
Bhaja Tu Pyare Sita Ram
Ishvara Allah Tere Nam
Sabako Sanmati De Bhagawan
He Bhagavan He Bhagavan
Sabako Sanmati De Bhagavan
The master of the Raghu race King of the Ragha dynasty, the King Ram. Sita Ram, who is the purifier (uplifter) of the downtrodden. My friend, chant the name of Sita Ram. Ishvara and Allah are names of the same God. Oh God give virtues to everyone. Oh Lord, Oh Lord give virtues to everyone.
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The Wiki explains the origin of this bhajan is not clear, but that it is likely inspired by the Tulsidas Ramayana. The song exists in different versions and the above overlaps with a version by Mahatma Gandhi. Rather than Sanskrit, it is apparently in Hindi which descends from Sanskrit. The part in the song that overlaps with the version by Gandhi, that does not include the last two lines of the song, is given in the Wiki as:
"रघुपति राघव राजाराम,पतित पावन सीतारामसीताराम सीताराम,भज प्यारे तू सीतारामईश्वर अल्लाह तेरो नाम,सब को सन्मति दे भगवान"
4. Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - From Unreal to Real
Asato Ma Sat Gamaya
Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya
Mrtyorma Amrtom Gamaya
Lead us from unreal to real
Lead us from darkness to Light
Lead us from death to immortality.
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The Wiki names this the Pavamana Mantra and gives the Sanskrit as असतो मा सद्गमय ।तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय ।मृत्योर्माऽमृतं गमय ॥ It further mentions:
"The Pavamana Mantra (pavamāna meaning "being purified, strained", historically a name of Soma), also known as pavamāna abhyāroha (abhyāroha, lit. "ascending", being an Upanishadic technical term for "prayer"[1]) is an ancient Indian mantra introduced in the Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad (1.3.28.)[2][3][4] The mantra was originally meant to be recited during the introductory praise of the soma sacrifice by the patron sponsoring the sacrifice.[5]"There are various translations and some may flow better in English than the one given on the CD. The Wiki offers for instance this by Swami Madhvananda:
"From evil lead me to good, From darkness lead me to light, From death lead me to immortality." Most variations concern the first line, with other versions saying: "From ignorance lead me to truth" or "From falsehood lead me to truth" or "From the unreal lead me to the real!"
Some people may have met this mantra in another context:
"In 2003, the mantra was worked into the theme Navras by Juno Reactor and used for the end credits of The Matrix Revolutions.[13]"Here is a youtube link. The mantra is heard already at the beginning. The voices of the vocalist Lakshmi Shankar and Azam are kind of overshadowed by the instruments. Both are on youtube with their own works.
As far as translation is concerned this mantra poses few issues except maybe for getting a good flow with the original music. The following mantra may be in the same category.
5. Purnamahdah - Prayer of Oneness
Purnamadah Purnamidam
Purnat Purnamudacyate
Purnasya Purnamadaya
Purnameva Vasishyte
That (God) is perfection
This (the Universe) is perfection
For perfection springs out of perfection,
taking the perfectly whole form of perfection
(the Universe), the God still does subsist as the perfect whole.
Comment
The Wiki on Shanti Mantas lists the above as pertaining to the Brihadaranyaka and Isha Upanishads. where they occur in the introduction before the actual text. The Sanskrit text that corresponds to the lyrics in the song is: "पूर्णमदः पूर्णमिदम् पूर्णात् पूर्णमुदच्यते | पूर्णस्य पूर्णमादाय पूर्णमेवावशिष्यते ||" One will find more than one translation One simple, open and accurate one is:
"That is full; this is full.From fullness, fullness comes out.Taking fulness from fullness,what remains is fullness."which can be found in The Upanishads, A New Translation by Vernon Katz and Thomas Egenes from 2015, page 25, and in Maharishi's Absolute Theory of Defence from 1995, page 354.
6. Ya Devi - Praise to Divine Mother
Ya Devi Sarvabhuteshu Shantirupena Samsthita
Namastasyai Namastasyai Namo Namah
Salutations to Divine Mother, who abides in all being in the form of Peace. Salutations and Salutations again.
Comment
The original reads;"या देवी सर्वभूतेषु शान्तिरूपेण संस्थिता । नमस्तस्यै नमस्तस्यै नमस्तस्यै नमो नमः ॥ ४७-४९॥" A more common version of this verse is when it reads "Shakti" (power) instead of "Shanti" (peace). Both forms appear in the Devi Mahatmyam with the variation using Shantirupena occupying and repeated thrice in chapter 5, verses 47-49. Devi Mahatmyam is part of the Skanda Purana. One can also find the verse in number 17 in the Devistuti, which is taken from the Devi Mahatmyam. It may also be that parts of the Devistuti are older and were later incorporated into the Devi Mahatmyam and the Skanda Purana. This site translates the verse as: "To that Devi who in all beings is abiding in the form of peace, Salutations to her, salutations to her, salutations to her, Salutations again and again." On the CD there is one salutation less if it makes a difference. In the traditional form, this verse is in the anustubh meter.
About "Devi", (Notice the "i" is long. In Sanskrit the vowels a, u and i and be both be long and short.) the Wiki has:
"Devī /ˈdeɪvi/ (Sanskrit: देवी) is the Sanskrit word for 'goddess'; the masculine form is deva. Devi and deva mean 'heavenly, divine, anything of excellence', and are also gender-specific terms for a deity in Hinduism.The concept and reverence for goddesses appears in the Vedas, which were composed around the 3rd millennium BCE. However, they do not play a central role in that era.[1] Goddesses such as Lakshmi, Parvati, Durga, Saraswati, Sita, Radha and Kali have continued to be revered in the modern era.[1] The medieval era Puranas witness a major expansion in mythology and literature associated with Devi, with texts such as the Devi Mahatmya, wherein she manifests as the ultimate truth and supreme power. She has inspired the Shaktism tradition of Hinduism. Further, Devi and her primary form Parvati is viewed as central in the Hindu traditions of Shaktism and Shaivism.[1][2]"
Further, there is about the etymology of Devi::
"Devi and deva are Sanskrit terms found in Vedic literature around the 3rd millennium BCE. Deva is masculine, and the related feminine equivalent is devi.[3] Monier-Williams translates it as 'heavenly, divine, terrestrial things of high excellence, exalted, shining ones'.[4][5] Etymologically, the cognates of devi are Latin dea and Greek thea.[6] When capitalized, Devi or Mata refers to goddess as divine mother in Hinduism.[7] Deva is also referred to as devatā, and devi as devika.[4]According to Douglas Harper, the etymological root dev- means 'a shining one', from *div-, 'to shine', and it is a cognate with Greek dios, 'divine' and Zeus, and Latin deus (Old Latin deivos).[8]"
I tried a reference work and scrolled down to find:
Source: DDSA: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionaryDevī (देवी).—1) A female deity, a goddess.2) Name of Durgā.3) Name of Sarasvatī.4) Name of Sāvitrī.5) A queen, especially a crowned queen (agramahiṣī who has undergone the consecration along with her husband); प्रेष्य- भावेन नामेयं देवीशब्दक्षमा सती । स्नायीयवस्त्रक्रियया पत्त्रोर्णं वोपयुज्यते (preṣya- bhāvena nāmeyaṃ devīśabdakṣamā satī | snāyīyavastrakriyayā pattrorṇaṃ vopayujyate) M.5.12; देवीभावं गमिता परिवारपदं कथं भजत्येषा (devībhāvaṃ gamitā parivārapadaṃ kathaṃ bhajatyeṣā) K. P.1.6) A respectful title applied to a lady of the first rank.7) A kind of bird (śyāmā).8) A particular supernatural power (kuṇḍalinī)."
In the next song, we are back to many more names, with Krishna being most prominent.
7. Murali Krishna - Praise to Divine
Murali Krishna, Mukunda Krishna, Mohana Krishna
Krishna Krishna
Gopi Krishna, Gopala Krishna, Govardhana-Dhara
Krishna Krishna
Radha-Krishna, Bala Krishna, Rasa-Vilola
Krishna Krishna
Shirdhi Krishna, Parti-Krishna, Shri Sathya Sai
Krishna Krishna
Chant the name of Lord Krishna, Mukundo, Mohan, Gopala, Govardha-nadhara, Radha-Krishna, Shirdi Baba and Sathya Sai Baba
Comment
The version of this bhajan can be found here and here of which the last apparently is related to the organization Sathy Sai Baba founded. This site provides a glossary of the terms which is very helpful:
"bala: child, son; (var) balana, balagan (tamil), baalamgopal: name of krishna which means protector of the cowherd; (var) gopala, gopalana, gopalamgopi: the women of brindavana who had completely surrendered to lord krishna; (var) gopikagovardhanadhara: one who carried the govardhana hill; (var) govardhanadhari, govardhanoddhara, govardhanodhara, govardhanodharikrishna: name of the eighth incarnation of lord vishnu, son of devaki and vasudevamohana: attractive, beautiful, enchanting; (var) mohanam, mohini (f) - also refers to an incarnation of lord vishnumukunda: refers to krishna, the one who grants liberationmurali: fluteputtaparthi: birthplace of bhagawan sri sathya sai baba; (var) parti, parthi, parthipuriraasa: the dance in which lord krishna multiplied his form to dance with all the gopikas at the same timeradha: one of the gopikas and the beloved of lord krishna; (var) radhe, radhey, radhikasai: sa + aai = divine mothersathya: truth, short form of sathyanarayana – the childhood name of sri sathya sai baba; (var) sathyamshirdi: birthplace of the first of the sai avatars, shirdi sai baba; (var) shirdipurisri: honorific title of respect; another name of goddess lakshmi; wealth, majesty, splendour, intellect, fortune; (var) thiru (tamil)vilola: one who is in atmic bliss; (var) vilolana, viloley"
An English interfaith retreat has a version that ends: "Poobala Krishna Giridha Krishna, Satchitananda Krishna Krishna, Jaya Satchitananda Krishna Krishna" rather than "Shirdhi Krishna, Parti-Krishna, Shri Sathya Sai Krishna Krishna" As for the difference, there was an Indian spiritual leader, Sai Baba of Shirdi who passed away in 1918. Later there was Sathya Sai Babam born in 1926 as Ratnakaram Sathyanarayana Raju. In 1940 he told the world that he was an incarnation of Sai Baba of Shirdi. Here one follower of Sathya Sai Baba argues he was a divine avatar. This is of course contested by other sources, try this thread for starters. The issues mentioned may explain the choice of the English group. I did not succeed in finding this song in the Devanagari script.
8. Twameva Mata - Prayer of Surrender
Twameva Mata Ca Pita Twameva
Twameva Bandho Ca Sakha Twameva
Twameva Vidya Dravinam Twameva
Twameva Sarvam Mama Deva Deva
Thou art my mother, Thou art my father,
Thou art my friend and companiion
Thou art my wisdom and wealth
Thou art my all in all
Oh Lord of Lords
Comments
The Devanagari for this song is given by this site as:
"त्वमेव माता च पिता त्वमेव।त्वमेव बन्धुश्च सखा त्वमेव।।त्वमेव विद्या द्रविणं त्वमेव।त्वमेव सर्व मम देवदेव।। "This verse is in the tristubh meter, any melody that fits the meter will in principle do.
This mantra also has a story. This site writes:
"This morning mantra is a part of the Pandava Gita, an assortment of wise mantras from various ancient Hindu texts. This mantra was uttered in devotion by Queen Gaandhari to Lord Krishna, an incarnation of Lord Vishnu himself. The spirit of the mantra is acceptance and surrender, which is why it is also known as the hymn of divine surrender."For the sake of curiosity, the name Gaandhari refers to the character of the queen being from Gandhara located in present-day northwest Pakistan close to Afghanistan, China, and India. For another perspective, this site writes additional notes and another lists the use of this mantra for reducing loneliness, detaching from grief, finding purpose in life, and self-acceptance.
9. Loka Samasta - Prayer of All Beings
Sarvesham Swastir Bhavatu
Sarvesham Shantir Bhavatu
Sarvesham Purnam Bhavatu
Sarvesham Mangalam Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhinoh Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhinoh Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhinoh Bhavantu
May all beings have auspiciouisness
May all beings have peace
May all being have fullness
May all beings be blessed
May all beings in all worlds have happiness
Comment
This one song seems to be two parts, the first four lines and the last three. The first four lines of the song corresponding to the first four lines of the translation while the last line of translation covers the last three lines of the song, which is really one line repeated thrice.
1) The first four lines are:
"Sarvesham Swastir BhavatuSarvesham Shantir BhavatuSarvesham Purnam BhavatuSarvesham Mangalam Bhavantu"This site mentions:
"Origin of this mantra is believed to be from the Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣads though not in the present form. Please let us (and everyone else) know if you know the proper origin (along with the chapter/ verse number"The Wiki on Shanti Mantras list it as Vedic without a further reference. The Wiki also gives the Sanskrit as:
"सर्वेषां स्वस्तिर्भवतु ।सर्वेषां शान्तिर्भवतु ।सर्वेषां पूर्नं भवतु ।सर्वेषां मड्गलं भवतु ॥"
2) The last three lines of the song repeats "Loka Samastha Sukhinoh Bhavantu" which corresponds to the translation: "May all beings in all worlds have happiness". The Sanskrit text is according to the Wiki: "लोकाः समस्ताः सुखिनोभवंतु ॥"
And the Wiki has:
"Many Hindu rituals and ceremonies end with a generic prayers such as Lokāḥ Samastāḥ Sukhino Bhavantu, meaning " Let the entire world be happy." or Sarve Jana sukhino Bhavantu - Let the People of the world be happy"
About "Loka Samastha Sukhinoh Bhavantu" The Wiki writes:
"The origin of the Lokaskema, often called the Mangala Mantra, is obscure. While some yoga practitioners and Hindu scholars erroneously point to the Rig Veda or the invocation of the Katha Upanishad, the only written attribution or textual source of "lokah samastah sukhino bhavantu" seems to be stone inscriptions from the Rulers of the Sangama Dynasty (1336 A.D.-1485 A.D.).[1]"
While the part mentioned above may be the older one, some claim it is longer. The Wiki mentions:
"This Mangala (auspicious) Mantra is often recited after a pooja or religious ceremony. It can be broken down into separate sentences as follows:
"प्रजाभ्यः स्वस्ति (अस्तु )।महीशाः महीं न्यायेन मार्गेण परिपालयन्तां ।गोब्राह्मणेभ्यः नित्यं शुभं अस्तु ।समस्ताः लोकाः सुखिनो भवन्तु ॥ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥May there be well being (auspiciousness) to the people; May the kings rule the earth along the right path; May the cows(& bulls) and the Brahmans (knower of vedas) always be fortunate. May all the beings in all the worlds become happy; Peace, peace and peace be to all, everywhere, in all circumstances!"
The next song has a lot of light. Attempting to find what is mentioned about light in the joined transcripts, I discovered there are more than 1000 locations where light is used in the transcripts. Below are three transcripts about light. Light as we perceive it our world consists of photons, which is mentioned in this session:
Session 1 March 1997
March 1, 1997 Present: Laura, Frank, Arkadiusz, Terry, Jan and Alice Q: Hello. A: Hello. Q: And what name shall we use this evening? A: Honaza. Q: And where are you transmitting from? A: Cassiopaea. Q: (T) You had a question about transmitting from Cassiopaea, Arkadiusz. What..."A: What is the nature of neutron stars, supernovae, "black holes," et cetera?Q: (L) You go in a black hole, and you come out a pulsar?!A: All are the junction of matter/antimatter... the borderline between realities as you know them... material realms/etheric realms, density level junctures, realities. One can pass through these windows with ease; remember, the stars and planets are windows too.Q: (L) And stars and planets were described as being giant atoms. Is an atom a window?A: Yes.Q: (A) Is a proton a window?A: Yes.Q: (A) OK, so it is. And it's massive, so let me ask. Is photon a window, too?A: Yes.Q: (L) Is gravity something from the center of the window to a reflective opposite in the ethereal realm, rather than the attraction between objects in this material realm?A: Gravity is the "binder" common to all imaginable existence. That is all you really need to know.Q: (L) Okay, binder. Does gravity bind in the same way that weak hydrogen bonds bind the DNA strands?A: No.Q: OK, then, does gravity bind the way the phosphate bond binds the carbon atom?A: These are material. The missing link for all you folks is that gravity is as much antimatter as matter!!Q: (A) I would like to ask, not now, but maybe later, about the, is this the concept that our space/time is the boundary of a domain? Is that correct picture?A: Yes.Q: (A) All right, Then, concerning this gravity, and the antimatter, is it a correct picture that there are two such domains; positive and negative one, and the gravity has something to do with the exchange between the positive and negative?A: Gravity is the "fuel," or "life blood" of absolutely everything that exists!!!Q: (A) What is the mathematical description, the correct mathematical description of that? (L) You want the formula? (A) Yes!! I want the formula!!!! {General laughter} No! I want the concept!A: That is why you were placed where you were placed!"
Next, we jump into a session about amino proteins and their ability to function as antennas for light.
Session 23 March 2019
Session Date: March 23rd 2019 Laura, Andromeda, and Artemis at the board Pierre, Joe, Chu, Ark, Gaby, PoB, Scottie, Niall, Princess Leia Q: (L) Let us tomato! Today is March 23, 2019. [Review of those present] Alright... A: Good evening children. Cassiopaea calling. Q: (L) And do we have a...
"Q: (L) Okay, so there are some proteins that can fold and jiggle, let's call it. They fold and then part of their function is to move in a certain way regularly or rhythmically. Does that relate to the idea that a heart can continue beating after it's been removed from the body, that it's a function of the ensemble of proteins that are making up the organ? It can continue to function as long as there is some... Some ability to receive some information?A: Exactly.Q: (L) If it was just the action of the raw materials, the amino acids or whatever, why couldn't it function forever? Why does it stop?A: Antenna! Attracts more than light! Life energy or what you might call "soul" is bound by antenna of a sort.Q: (L) So if the soul so to speak leaves the body, there is some residual function that can continue kind of like a battery that's been charged, and then when that energy runs out, there's no more incoming? Is that it?A: Yes.Q: (L) In other words, the trillions of these little appendages or little antennae on proteins are sort of like the anchors for the soul? Like the little antenna that collect photons?A: YesQ: (Joe) Does that also go for all parts of the human body? Every cell of your body?A: Yes"
Finally, to broaden the concept of light, next is an excerpt that mentions psychic light.
Session 10 October 2020
Session Date: October 10th 2020 Laura, Andromeda, and Artemis at the board Pierre, Joe, Chu, Ark, PoB, Scottie, Niall, Noko the Wonderdog, the Lunar Module, Princess Leia Q: (L) Alright... A: Hello children of Cassiopaea. Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening? A: Nighhillaea of...
"Q: (L) Well, we're trying really hard to enjoy the show. People are enjoying their romantic fiction and getting their emotional centers sorted out - at least some of them are, not everybody. But I think with persistence, that little reading exercise is going to help a lot of people. Is there anything else that we can do for our group in these trying times??A: Consider crystal protection for travel and supplementary spaces.Q: (L) You mean like the crystals we charged to put in all of our vehicles?A: YesQ: (Joe) What's a supplementary space?(L) Any special places in the house, like a home office or somewhere you spend a lot of time. Something like that?A: YesQ: (L) So we have these crystals that we already charged for travel protection. I guess we could offer them to group members to have a crystal in their vehicle, attach it to their bicycle, in their offices... Is that what you mean?A: Yes. The more the better.Q: (L) Do we need to select each one personally?A: No. The batch you have prepared is ideal for the purpose, as they are, indiscriminately.Q: (L) So people could take them and even make jewelry out of them.(Andromeda) Wherever they spend a lot of time.(L) Yeah, wherever they spend a lot of time: in the kitchen, or...A: Yes. Create a network of psychic light now that all those who asked have been served with the basic protection.Q: (L) What is psychic light?A: Connected directly at higher level where space and time are variable and selective.Q: (L) So, people who have more crystals are more connected. They're connected at another level where there's really not the space or time distance between them. So everybody who has the charged crystals is more or less connected directly at some level. Is that it?A: Close"
And I'm now ready for this beautiful song
10. Jyoti, Jyoti - Lights of Lights
Jyoti, Jyoti Swayam
Jyoti, Jyoti Param
Jyoti, Jyoti Arul
Jyoti, Jyoti, Sivam
Vaama Jyoti, Sama Jyoti, Vaana Jyoti, Jnaana Jyoti,
Mahaa Jyoti, Yoga Jyoti, Vaata Jyoti, Naada Jyoti,
Erna Jyoti, Vyama Jyoti, Eru Jyoti, Veeru Jyoti,
Eka Jyoti, Eka Jyoti, Eka Jyoti, Jyotiye
Light O Light of Self-effulgence, Light O Light of Absoluteness
Light O Light of Gracfulness, Light O Light of Auspciousness,
Light O Light of Shiva, Light of Moon, Light Dvine,
Light of Wisdom, Light of Heaven, Light of Yoga, Light of Wind,
Light of Sound, Light of Delight, Light of Water, Light of Risinig,
Vital Light, the only Light, Give us the Light, the light of Lights
Comment
I have not yet found this song in Devanagari, but Jyoti is ज्योति. I found the song as part of the daily practice of the Integral Yoga Institute in New York. The founder was Sri Swami Satchidananda 1914-2002 about whom there is:
"Sri Swamiji founded the global Integral Yoga® organization, Satchidananda Ashram–Yogaville®, and the Light Of Truth Universal Shrine. He is the author of Integral Yoga Hatha, To Know Your Self, The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, Beyond Words, The Living Gita, and The Golden Present, among other titles. He is also the subject of the documentary, Living Yoga."Swami Satchidananda was one of several prominent disciples of Swami Sivananda Saraswati, founder of the Divine Light Society.
A shorter version of this song can be found on Mantry – SANSKRT I. | Aluška.org that has left out "Vaama Jyoti, Sama Jyoti, Vaana Jyoti, Jnaana Jyoti, Mahaa Jyoti, Yoga Jyoti, Vaata Jyoti, Naada Jyoti, Erna Jyoti, Vyama Jyoti, Eru Jyoti, Veeru Jyoti," but the source is not given. And now to the last song.
11. Jaya Narayani - Salutations Power Divine
Jaya Narayani Namostute
Guru Deva, Guru Mata,
Hare, Hare,
Om Namoh Bhagavate Namo Namo
Salutation to Power Divine,
Guru God, Guru Mother,
Salutation and Praise again and again
Comment
The usual transliteration is writing "namostute" rather than "namastute" as on the CD.
I could not find this song except on Mantry – SANSKRT I. | Aluška.org without a source. The spelling though is different to fit the Czech language:
"DŽAJA NARAJANI NAMÓSTUTEGURU DEVA GURU MATA HARÉ HARÉÓM NAMÓ BHAGAVATÉ NAMÓ NAMÓ"
If the appearance of the song lyrics on a Czech site is connected to Nada Shakt being born there is not known. I proceeded to look for the origins of single lines.
The first line shows up in Devotional Songs from the Sivananda Ashram available as book from the Divine Light Society e-Bookstore. Jaya Narayani Namo’stute is simply the first line of a song dedicated to the divine as mother. The translation given is: "Glory to Narayani, salutations to Narayani…" Narayani is mentioned under the Wiki of Laksmi as "Narayani (belonging to Narayana or the power of Narayana)" The translation, Glory to the Power Divine" reflect rather closely the idea that Narayani is the power of Narayana.
Under the Wiki of Narayana is explains:
"Narayana (Sanskrit: नारायण, IAST: Nārāyaṇa) is the one who is in yogic slumber under the celestial waters, referring to the masculine principle linked with Vishnu according to Vaishnavite Hindu belief.[citation needed] He is also known as Purushottama and is considered the Supreme being in Vaishnavism."The etymologies and explanations vary:
What is Narayan? - Definition from Yogapedia
This definition explains the meaning of Narayan and why it matters.www.yogapedia.com
"Narayan is the name of a Vedic deity who is also believed to be the supreme Hindu god, Vishnu, particularly in Vaishnavism, one of the main traditions of Hinduism. The name is derived from the Sanskrit, nara, meaning “man” or “water,” and ayana, meaning “place of refuge” or “resting place.”"And here: Narayana, Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyana, Narāyana, Nara-ayana, Nara-yana: 37 definitions on finds, and I think this illustrates that if one goes deep into some of these names, then there are many possibilities for finding a translation that is abstract and universal.
Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Edgerton Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit DictionaryNārāyaṇa (नारायण).—(1) (also Mahā-n°, q.v.; presumably the name of the Hindu god, but used in [Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit] as a proverbially powerful personage; so also in Pali, see Malalasekara (Dictionary of Pali Proper Names) s.v. Nārā- yana-saṃghāṭa-bala, ‘name given to a certain measure of physical strength…[it] was the strength of the Buddha’; but in MPS 31.21 Buddha has the power of many hundreds of Nārāyaṇas): Nārāyaṇa-balam Mahāvyutpatti 8214 = Tibetan sred med buḥi (of Nārāyaṇa, so [Tibetan-English Dictionary]; lit. seems to mean of son of the desireless one) stobs (strength); °ṇa-sthāmavān Lalitavistara 109.11; 110.8; 291.15 (all verses), having the might of N. (Tibetan on the last, sred med bu yi mthu ldan pa); °ṇa- saṃhananakāyaḥ Saddharmapuṇḍarīka 428.9—10, said of a Bodhisattva; °ṇa-saṃhananaḥ Mūla-Sarvāstivāda-Vinaya i.271.10; vajradṛḍha abhedya nārā- yaṇo ātmabhāvo guru Lalitavistara 202.17 (verse) = Tibetan sku (body) ni sred med bu yi stobs ldan (having the strength of N.), which seems to imply that Tibetan took nārāyaṇo as an adj., Nārāyaṇa-like (in strength); it could perhaps be under- stood as for °ṇa-, in composition with -ātmabhāva (§ 8.12), having the body of a N. (i.e. like N.); sarvaparvasu caikas- min (read caikaikasmin?) parvaṇi Nārāyaṇa-bala-saṃni- viṣṭatā (…a state of being invested with the power of N.) Bodhisattvabhūmi 74.27; see the similar cases s.vv. Ardhanārāyaṇa, Mahānārāyaṇa; (2) name of a Buddha: Śikṣāsamuccaya 169.12; (3) name of a yakṣa: Suvarṇabhāsottamasūtra 161.6; (4) name of a nāga-king: Mahā-Māyūrī 247.4.Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Shabda-Sagara Sanskrit-English DictionaryNarāyaṇa (नरायण).—m.(-ṇaḥ) A name of Vishnu. E. nara man, and ayaṇa going; see nārāyaṇa .--- OR ---Nārāyaṇa (नारायण).—m.(-ṇaḥ) 1. A name of Vishnu, but especially considered as the deity who was before all worlds. 2. A sage, and brother of nara . The two great sages, while practising penance at the Badarikashram on the Himalaya, Indra being afraid lest he might be deprived of his throne sent Heavenly nymphs to disturb their devotions; But Narayana put these damsels to shame by creating a nymph (Urvashi by name) from his thigh far excelling Indra's nymph’s in beauty. 3. A valiant combatant. f. (-ṇī) 1. A name of Durga. 2. A name of Lakshmi, the goddess of prosperity, and wife of Vishnu. 3. Ganga. 4. A plant, (Asparagus racemosa.) E. nārā the primeval waters, derived from nara the spirit of God, whence they originated, and ayana place of coming or moving; he who moved over the waters before creation; the word has several etymologies, as nara the spirit or soul of the universe, aṇ affix, nāra appertaining to it, the actions or emotions of the soul, and ayana pervading, influencing; again nāra multitudes, man kind, and ayana place; present amongst all men, &c.
The second line, "Guru Deva, Guru Mata," I could not find as written, but divided into two it will be easier, but I leave it.
The third line "Hare, Hare" could be an indication of the Hare Krishna mantra. The Wiki has:
"The Hare Krishna mantra is composed of Sanskrit names in the singular vocative case: Hare, Krishna, and Rama (in Anglicized spelling). It is a poetic stanza in anuṣṭubh meter (a quatrain of four lines (pāda) of eight syllables with certain syllable lengths for some of the syllables).Hare Rāma Hare RāmaRāma Rāma Hare HareHare Kṛṣṇa Hare KṛṣṇaKṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare— Kali-Saṇṭāraṇa UpaniṣadWhen Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu promulgated the Mahamantra, it was rendered with Krishna's name's first."
The last line "Om Namoh Bhagavate Namo Namo" could point to "Om Namo Bhagavate Vāsudevāya" where the Wiki says:
"Om Namo Bhagavate Vāsudevāya (listen (help·info)) (in devanagari: ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय) is one of the most popular Hindu mantras, and the most important mantra in Vaishnavism."
For a reworking of the songs there were two suggestions:
A: English so everyone can understand.
and
A: Melodies are very good so modify very little. The translated words will guide.
To fit new adapted lyrics in English to the songs, experimentation over a period of time might be required, and there may be several different solutions.
Just in case anyone is interested in the possibility of singing songs from the CD Samadhi, here is an update, and hopefully the last.
I went over the CD one more time, to see how the lyrics were actually sung. Another typing error is in 4. Asato Ma Sat Gamaya; line three where Amrtom->Amrtam.
The notes below will probably make more sense if one listens to the music at the same time. I have tried to make some notes for each song, but it is not perfect, and perhaps not so important if one considers translating some of the lyrics into English. What I did find out in the process is that it would be possible to strip the songs of their vocal component and match the instrumentals with video text like for a karaoke. For instance, one can find instructions on this page How to Make a Karaoke Track and Video: A Complete Guide | How to Karaoke If one does karaoke with the original lyrics, I think the result will be better if one checks how others have pronounced the words to get the best. About the Sanskrit alphabet, you can read here: Sanskrit alphabet, pronunciation and language and here Sanskrit - Wikipedia
I went over the CD one more time, to see how the lyrics were actually sung. Another typing error is in 4. Asato Ma Sat Gamaya; line three where Amrtom->Amrtam.
The notes below will probably make more sense if one listens to the music at the same time. I have tried to make some notes for each song, but it is not perfect, and perhaps not so important if one considers translating some of the lyrics into English. What I did find out in the process is that it would be possible to strip the songs of their vocal component and match the instrumentals with video text like for a karaoke. For instance, one can find instructions on this page How to Make a Karaoke Track and Video: A Complete Guide | How to Karaoke If one does karaoke with the original lyrics, I think the result will be better if one checks how others have pronounced the words to get the best. About the Sanskrit alphabet, you can read here: Sanskrit alphabet, pronunciation and language and here Sanskrit - Wikipedia
I am going to revisit the Samadhi CD, last discussed in this post, Aug 29, 2021, though it began Jul 11, 2021, which continued on Aug 20, 2021. This time with an intention not to be overly discouraged by what appears difficult to adapt, translate or sing. What can go wrong by an attempt to make the best of it, which then can be improved or modified by others? If there are 11 songs and even a one or two can be transformed into something workable, that could mean progress. In this first post, I will only concern myself with the first song, the Gayatry Mantra. It takes up a lot of space, and the result was uncertain, but as you will see in the final comment, it was not all in vain.
The original lyrics are in Sanskrit
While the lyrics are in Sanskrit, Sanskrit has undergone changes:
Session 25 February 2023
Some of those lyrics are truly ancient even if the music is not
Session 9 June 2009
What the above excerpt could point to, is that ideas underlying the Sanskrit lyrics on the Samadhi audio could be older than the language. For the English translation we can use the translation, already included as a base, but we can collect additional ideas from the Sanskrit and how others interpret the text to choose or created a version that is suitable in meaning and which can also be sung and appear compatible to the original. After all, the translation given on the CD was only meant as a help to understand the meaning, not meant to be sung.
Below is an excerpt from the earlier post from Aug 29, 2021
The number of syllables in the Sanskrit is 29-30 which could be a base to work with for singing a translated of the original:
To make counting syllables easy, there is a syllable counter: Syllable Counter - Count syllables for a word or sentence
To making matching music notes with syllables easy, there is text to syllable splitter: The Syllable Separator
If I enter
"We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being."
Then the syllable counter gives 32 and the syllable splitter produces this text:
"We med-i-tate on the Ef-ful-gent Light of di-vine re-al-i-ty to pu-ri-fy and il-lu-mi-nate all worlds and our Be-ing."
Also, 32, so it is matching, though it is too many compared to 30, but it is not far off the mark either.
In the above translation, I am not so fond of "all worlds". What if some worlds can experience my wish for "all worlds" to amount to a violation of their free will? Why should I force my idea upon them?
To find a better translation, the next step could be: Exploring translations of the Gayatri Mantra
This is difficult step, as there are many views, that taken together could fill a few chapters of a book.
From one page, Icanspirit.com, Om Bhur Bhuva Swaha Meaning – गायत्री मंत्र : ॐ भूभुर्व: स्व: हिंदी अर्थ I include a couple of translations in English:
Here are suggested meanings of the words, according to the above site:
Session 10 August 2019
The website continues with meanings for the remaining for the other words.
Literal translations of the words are below:
We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being. is close to the literal. As is the first of the following two from Vedicfeed.com or Gayatri Mantra Meaning, Origin and Folklore – Wiki Religions:
Below are my favourites:
Here is the one from the CD:
We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being.
Next are a few attempts to find something that might work as translated lyrics to replace the Sanskrit.
Adapting the original: "We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being"
It could become:
We meditate on the Divine Cosmic Mind, that we may grow in knowledge of all creation and purify our hearts. 33 syllables
Or:
We meditate on the glory of the Divine Cosmic Mind that we may grow in knowledge and awareness of creation. 31 syllables
Adapting Vivekananda: "We meditate on the glory of that Being who has produced this universe; may She enlighten our minds"
It could become:
"We meditate on the light of the Divine Cosmic Mind who has produced this universe; may it enlighten our minds" 30 syllables, so that would fit.
Reflections on the process
It was interesting but difficult to explore different options and try to loosen some of the constrictions. The range of translations and interpretations, however, gives a wider range of options than I had imagined, but how to keep some of the original meaning and still have statements that are true, or close enough? It was a help to find the syllable counters and syllable separator.
Next in the list is
2. Rama, Rama - Praise to Rama
3. Sita Ram
But I will skip them for now, as I have no idea on how to adapt them, so it will be:
4. Asato Ma Sat Gamayo - From Unreal to Real
5. Purnamahdah - Prayer of Oneness
I hope both will be easier than the Gayatri Mantra, as they relate to knowledge, but I may do them one at a time.
The following will be more challenging
6. Ya Devi - Praise to Divine Mother
7. Murali Krishna - Praise to Divine
8. Twameva Mata - Prayer of Surrender
9. Loka Samasta - Prayer of All Beings
10. Jyoti, Jyoti - Lights of Lights
11. Jaya Narayani - Salutations Power Divine
A part of the background work for some of these songs, might be to find the excerpts about light, so the perspective is enhanced to include hyperdimensional realities. And if Krishna is a fictional character, what about inserting Caesar/Jesus, or Buddha.
To be continued...
The original lyrics are in Sanskrit
While the lyrics are in Sanskrit, Sanskrit has undergone changes:
Session 25 February 2023
We also know that lyrics can survive very ancient times.
Some of those lyrics are truly ancient even if the music is not
Session 9 June 2009
For a few notes on Carmina Burana, if interested, see Mar 10, 2023 and Mar 18, 2023.
What the above excerpt could point to, is that ideas underlying the Sanskrit lyrics on the Samadhi audio could be older than the language. For the English translation we can use the translation, already included as a base, but we can collect additional ideas from the Sanskrit and how others interpret the text to choose or created a version that is suitable in meaning and which can also be sung and appear compatible to the original. After all, the translation given on the CD was only meant as a help to understand the meaning, not meant to be sung.
Below is an excerpt from the earlier post from Aug 29, 2021
For singing a translation, it helps to know the number of syllables
The number of syllables in the Sanskrit is 29-30 which could be a base to work with for singing a translated of the original:
To make counting syllables easy, there is a syllable counter: Syllable Counter - Count syllables for a word or sentence
To making matching music notes with syllables easy, there is text to syllable splitter: The Syllable Separator
If I enter
"We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being."
Then the syllable counter gives 32 and the syllable splitter produces this text:
"We med-i-tate on the Ef-ful-gent Light of di-vine re-al-i-ty to pu-ri-fy and il-lu-mi-nate all worlds and our Be-ing."
Also, 32, so it is matching, though it is too many compared to 30, but it is not far off the mark either.
In the above translation, I am not so fond of "all worlds". What if some worlds can experience my wish for "all worlds" to amount to a violation of their free will? Why should I force my idea upon them?
To find a better translation, the next step could be: Exploring translations of the Gayatri Mantra
This is difficult step, as there are many views, that taken together could fill a few chapters of a book.
From one page, Icanspirit.com, Om Bhur Bhuva Swaha Meaning – गायत्री मंत्र : ॐ भूभुर्व: स्व: हिंदी अर्थ I include a couple of translations in English:
Reducing the above text by skipping the words in parentheses and entering it into the syllable counter gives 35 syllables. In this translation, the previous "all worlds" is understood as "All Realms" and that again as "Physical, Mental and Spiritual". The expression: "All Realms (Physical, Mental And Spiritual)" might relate to the four different level that our consciousness operates on, as brought out in Session 10 October 1998
Perhaps one does not have to insist on precision when understanding is incomplete but leave a suitable general term which like a placeholder can be filled out with meaning as understanding grows.
Here are suggested meanings of the words, according to the above site:
Among the words, I looked up "Savitur (सवितुर्)". The Wiki for Savitr has many details:
That Savitr should denote the Sun before sunrise is curious, considering this excerpt:
Session 10 August 2019
Early morning before dawn is the time of the morning twilight, beginning when the Sun reaches 18 degrees below the horizon one to two hours before sunrise, but depending on the time of the year and where one is located on the planet. From this perspective, the Gayatri Mantra rather than conveying the importance of the Sun has the idea that the early morning before the Sun rises offers a better possibility to connect via prayer to
- Tat (तत्): It Refers To “That” Or The Transcendental Reality Beyond The Physical, Astral, And Divine Realms.
If you look up Vyahrities, it is many sites that repeat the above meanings, I like the overarching concept inherent in the combination of the words.
The website continues with meanings for the remaining for the other words.
One page, Learn Religion adds more meaning to the words at the beginning of the Gayatry Mantra which integrates some of the contradictions, but also explains how different interpretations can be justifiable.
Of course, there is also a Wiki for the Gayatri Mantra, they list these meanings:
Literal translations of the words are below:
The Wiki distinguishes between quite literal and more interpretive translations. They are encouraging, since they allow room for a bit a freedom, when deciding upon a suitable wording.
The translation on the CD
We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being. is close to the literal. As is the first of the following two from Vedicfeed.com or Gayatri Mantra Meaning, Origin and Folklore – Wiki Religions:
The next is more interpretative, but still short.
The following are longer and more interpretive:
Which translations to favour, modify, or adapt?
Below are my favourites:
Here is the one from the CD:
We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being.
- Swami Vivekananda: "We meditate on the glory of that Being who has produced this universe; may She enlighten our minds."[16]
- S. Radhakrishnan:
- (1947): "We meditate on the effulgent glory of the divine Light; may he inspire our understanding."[20]
- Sri Aurobindo: "We choose the Supreme Light of the divine Sun; we aspire that it may impel our minds."[22] Sri Aurobindo further elaborates: "The Sun is the symbol of divine Light that is coming down and Gayatri gives expression to the aspiration asking that divine Light to come down and give impulsion to all the activities of the mind."[22]
- Sri Chinmoy: " We meditate on the Transcendental Glory of the Deity Supreme,Who is inside the Heart of the Earth, inside the Life of the Sky and inside the Soul of the Heaven. May He stimulate and illume our minds.".
Next are a few attempts to find something that might work as translated lyrics to replace the Sanskrit.
Adapting the original: "We meditate on the Effulgent Light of divine reality to purify and illuminate all worlds and our Being"
It could become:
We meditate on the Divine Cosmic Mind, that we may grow in knowledge of all creation and purify our hearts. 33 syllables
Or:
We meditate on the glory of the Divine Cosmic Mind that we may grow in knowledge and awareness of creation. 31 syllables
Adapting Vivekananda: "We meditate on the glory of that Being who has produced this universe; may She enlighten our minds"
It could become:
"We meditate on the light of the Divine Cosmic Mind who has produced this universe; may it enlighten our minds" 30 syllables, so that would fit.
Reflections on the process
It was interesting but difficult to explore different options and try to loosen some of the constrictions. The range of translations and interpretations, however, gives a wider range of options than I had imagined, but how to keep some of the original meaning and still have statements that are true, or close enough? It was a help to find the syllable counters and syllable separator.
Next in the list is
2. Rama, Rama - Praise to Rama
3. Sita Ram
But I will skip them for now, as I have no idea on how to adapt them, so it will be:
4. Asato Ma Sat Gamayo - From Unreal to Real
5. Purnamahdah - Prayer of Oneness
I hope both will be easier than the Gayatri Mantra, as they relate to knowledge, but I may do them one at a time.
The following will be more challenging
6. Ya Devi - Praise to Divine Mother
7. Murali Krishna - Praise to Divine
8. Twameva Mata - Prayer of Surrender
9. Loka Samasta - Prayer of All Beings
10. Jyoti, Jyoti - Lights of Lights
11. Jaya Narayani - Salutations Power Divine
A part of the background work for some of these songs, might be to find the excerpts about light, so the perspective is enhanced to include hyperdimensional realities. And if Krishna is a fictional character, what about inserting Caesar/Jesus, or Buddha.
To be continued...
In the last post, working with the Gayatri Mantra, I was occupied with finding a translation that had the right number of syllables, but is this really essential, if the Gayatry Mantra song does not appear with a very definite beat? I don't think so. If a syllable appears as missing when singing a line in English, one could try to draw a syllable out, if it is one note, or across more than one note, as is done in some forms of church music.
In general, it would help if one could generate or in some cases access the music score. Having the music score it could be easier to note down where the lyrics should go.
Leaving song two and three for later, next is
From an earlier post Aug 23, 2021
Using The Syllable Separator for the English translation:
Line 1) Lead us from un-re-al to re-al 9 syllables in English versus 8 in Sanskrit
Line 2) Lead us from dark-ness to Light 7 in English versus 9 in Sanskrit
Line 3) Lead us from death to im-mor-tal-i-ty. 10 in English 10 in Sanskrit
In the comment two years ago, I wrote:
The translations on the CD is good, and although one could add articles in front of unreal and real, as to become "the unreal" and "the real", to match the syllables, I like the version without, as an article in front could indicate it is known exactly what "the" is, which is not always the case.
One interesting possibility is to record this song, and perhaps some of the others, in both Sanskrit and English. In India many people would not necessarily know the meaning of the Sanskrit verses any better than contemporary Europeans know Latin, though Sanskrit is still taught in some schools, according to the Wiki:
This song might be a candidate for reading or singing to those departing this life, or for those who have recently passed over, considering, that the lyrics convey the idea that it is desirable to move into the light. If the person concerned does not understand English, one would need a translation and reworking into a language that is understood. Sure, the Cs mentioned only putting them into English, but just like the transcripts are translated into a number of languages, so could some of these songs, if they make it into English.
To be continued:
More about song 4. Asato Ma Sat Gamayo - From Unreal to Real
Completing the draft for revised English lyrics
Using the information in post Aug 29, 2021 but having corrected spelling errors:
The Sanskrit word translation: in the Wiki for the verse gives:
If "Asato Ma Sat Gamaya" is "Lead us from unreal to real", then "Ma sat gamaya" is "Lead us to real", I would try "Lead us from untruth to truth". This would then give "Lead us to truth" which sounds better than "Lead us to real"
The word "Ma" is translated as "Me" in the Wiki. In the translation it is "Us". I like "Me", as I have no intention of saving all of humanity, but if the verse is sung in a group, or sung individually with a group of people in mind, it would make sense to use, us.
Applying these modifications, and adding the option of using me instead of us, gives the following translation of the whole song:
Lyrics Sanskrit and English draft for Asato Ma Sat Gamayab - Lead me from untruth to truth
00:14-00:20 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
00:21-0030 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
0:31-00:40 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
00:41-0048 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
0:49-00:56 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
00:57-01:05 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
01:06-01:12 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
01:13-01:21 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
01:21-01:29 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
01:31-01:38 Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us to truth - Lead me to truth
01:46-01:52 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
01:53-02:00 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
02:01-02:08 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
02:11-02:16 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
02:17-02:24 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
02:26-02:33 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
02:36 02:42 Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us to truth - Lead me to truth
02:43-02;48 Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us to truth - Lead me to truth
02:49-02:57 Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us to truth - Lead me to truth
For this song, the next step could be practise to find out if the lyrics can work with the melody on the CD.
Completing the draft for revised English lyrics
Using the information in post Aug 29, 2021 but having corrected spelling errors:
Reviewing the translation
Previously I wrote:
The translation is good, but can we make it better?
The Sanskrit word translation: in the Wiki for the verse gives:
The word "asatoh" with a translation of "from falsehood" can then also mean "from untruth" or "from lies". The CD translation uses "From unreal"
If "Asato Ma Sat Gamaya" is "Lead us from unreal to real", then "Ma sat gamaya" is "Lead us to real", I would try "Lead us from untruth to truth". This would then give "Lead us to truth" which sounds better than "Lead us to real"
The word "Ma" is translated as "Me" in the Wiki. In the translation it is "Us". I like "Me", as I have no intention of saving all of humanity, but if the verse is sung in a group, or sung individually with a group of people in mind, it would make sense to use, us.
Applying these modifications, and adding the option of using me instead of us, gives the following translation of the whole song:
Lyrics Sanskrit and English draft for Asato Ma Sat Gamayab - Lead me from untruth to truth
00:14-00:20 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
00:21-0030 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
0:31-00:40 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
00:41-0048 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
0:49-00:56 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
00:57-01:05 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
01:06-01:12 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
01:13-01:21 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
01:21-01:29 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
01:31-01:38 Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us to truth - Lead me to truth
01:46-01:52 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
01:53-02:00 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
02:01-02:08 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
02:11-02:16 Asato Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us from untruth to truth - Lead me from untruth to truth
02:17-02:24 Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamaya - Lead us from darkness to Light - Lead me from darkness to Light
02:26-02:33 Mrtyorma Amrtam Gamaya - Lead us from death to immortality. - Lead me from death to immortality.
02:36 02:42 Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us to truth - Lead me to truth
02:43-02;48 Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us to truth - Lead me to truth
02:49-02:57 Ma Sat Gamaya - Lead us to truth - Lead me to truth
For this song, the next step could be practise to find out if the lyrics can work with the melody on the CD.
Revisiting: 5. Purnamahdah - Prayer of Oneness
From Aug 23, 2021
And from Aug 29, 2021
Draft lyrics for 5. Purnamadah Purnamidam - That is full, this is full
00:00-00:30
Purnamadah Purnamidam - That is full; this is full.
Purnat Purnamudacyate - From fullness, fullness comes out.
Purnasya Purnamadaya - Taking fulness from fullness,
Purnameva Vasishyte - what remains is fullness.
00:31-01:00
Purnamadah Purnamidam - That is full; this is full.
Purnat Purnamudacyate - From fullness, fullness comes out.
Purnasya Purnamadaya - Taking fulness from fullness,
Purnameva Vasishyte (Sounds like "Purnameva Avasishyte" And this can't be correct according to usual pronunciation guides and other examples like: Purnamadah Purnamidam Mantra This error is repeating but I have not put more notes.) - what remains is fullness.
01:01-01:28 (01:32 is the end)
Purnamadah Purnamidam - That is full; this is full.
Purnat Purnamudacyate - From fullness, fullness comes out.
Purnasya Purnamadaya - Taking fulness from fullness,
Purnameva Vasishyte - what remains is fullness.
Like the previous song lyrics, this will song need some work to see if it can be made to work in practice.
Exploring the meaning of the lyrics
The verse can be interpreted in different ways, though some may find the statements contradictory. Taking the meanings to be associated with limitless and infinite, below are a number of excerpts that show how these words are used in the transcripts.
Are the number of universes limitless? - In a sense
Session 18 October 1994
The "trick" that 3rd density STS life forms will learn, either prior to transition to 4th density, or at the exact juncture, is to think in absolutely limitless terms.
Session 22 July 2000
Where is there any limitation in the concept behind the word "knowledge"?
Session 22 October 1994
Session 24 November 1994
Session 26 November 1994
Session 3 December 1994
Session 28 December 1994
Session 7 January 1995
Infinite power
Session 11 November 1995
Number of universes: Infinite, maybe, but more to the point: variable and selective.
Session 4 January 1997
Infinitely more complex
Session 13 November 1999
Session 5 August 2000
Session 24 September 2001
Session 4 March 2012
Session 4 April 2015
And they came up with these ideas of infinite time and space that far back? - And so much more. They were "connected"
Reading the following excerpt, and the link between Zoroastrianism and Vedic traditions of India, leaves the impression that some of the ideas could have survived in the Vedic literature, including in some of the lines of the songs on the CD.
Session 14 August 2016
Session 13 August 2018
Session 22 September 2018
Session 18 April 2019
Session 23 April 2022
Session 22 October 2022
From fullness, fullness comes out.
Taking fulness from fullness,
what remains is fullness."
To be continued...
The Sanskrit verse has four lines of eight syllables, that is 8/8/8/8, while the above translation has 6/7/6/6. To match the melody, the syllables would need to be extended by the vocalist, more so, as there are yet no instruments.
And from Aug 29, 2021
Draft lyrics for 5. Purnamadah Purnamidam - That is full, this is full
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Purnamadah Purnamidam - That is full; this is full.
Purnat Purnamudacyate - From fullness, fullness comes out.
Purnasya Purnamadaya - Taking fulness from fullness,
Purnameva Vasishyte - what remains is fullness.
00:31-01:00
Purnamadah Purnamidam - That is full; this is full.
Purnat Purnamudacyate - From fullness, fullness comes out.
Purnasya Purnamadaya - Taking fulness from fullness,
Purnameva Vasishyte (Sounds like "Purnameva Avasishyte" And this can't be correct according to usual pronunciation guides and other examples like: Purnamadah Purnamidam Mantra This error is repeating but I have not put more notes.) - what remains is fullness.
01:01-01:28 (01:32 is the end)
Purnamadah Purnamidam - That is full; this is full.
Purnat Purnamudacyate - From fullness, fullness comes out.
Purnasya Purnamadaya - Taking fulness from fullness,
Purnameva Vasishyte - what remains is fullness.
Like the previous song lyrics, this will song need some work to see if it can be made to work in practice.
Exploring the meaning of the lyrics
The verse can be interpreted in different ways, though some may find the statements contradictory. Taking the meanings to be associated with limitless and infinite, below are a number of excerpts that show how these words are used in the transcripts.
Are the number of universes limitless? - In a sense
Session 18 October 1994
Another example of the word limitless is:
The "trick" that 3rd density STS life forms will learn, either prior to transition to 4th density, or at the exact juncture, is to think in absolutely limitless terms.
Session 22 July 2000
The remaining examples include the word infinite. A number fit quite well with the topic of the ultimate reality and our place in it, which is also a question for some of the branches of Vedic philosophy from where the "That is full; this is full" comes from.
Where is there any limitation in the concept behind the word "knowledge"?
Session 22 October 1994
All there is is lessons. This is one infinite school. There is no other reason for anything to exist.
Session 24 November 1994
The Universe is infinitely huge
Session 26 November 1994
How many times has the wave come and involved the earth as we know it? - Infinite number.
Session 3 December 1994
The universe is an infinite illusion
Session 28 December 1994
Souls are not "born" into this planet. Souls were never born! And, will never die!
Session 7 January 1995
The next, concerns the STS quest for power and "a circle you can't get out of!"
Infinite power
Session 11 November 1995
Number of universes: Infinite, maybe, but more to the point: variable and selective.
Session 4 January 1997
Can infinite numbers of "dimensions" exist within each level of density, even if temporary?
Session 10 July 1999
Infinitely more complex
Session 13 November 1999
What happened that they (STS) want to have happen differently? - Infinite number of possible answers to that question
Session 5 August 2000
Playing with algebras and infinite dimensions
Session 24 September 2001
Something tells me to follow the way with infinite time
Session 4 March 2012
What is divine will? A: Energy of information configurations of infinite permutations.
Session 4 April 2015
And they came up with these ideas of infinite time and space that far back? - And so much more. They were "connected"
Reading the following excerpt, and the link between Zoroastrianism and Vedic traditions of India, leaves the impression that some of the ideas could have survived in the Vedic literature, including in some of the lines of the songs on the CD.
Session 14 August 2016
How many dimensions this external universe has? - Infinite.
Session 13 August 2018
Imagine a five dimensional "body" that replicates infinitely
Session 22 September 2018
Joyeaeia of Cassiopaea here with you in love of the infinite creation
Session 18 April 2019
How many dimensions? - Infinite
Session 23 April 2022
We have done an infinite number of Grand Cycles in the past and will do so also in the future
Session 22 October 2022
"That is full; this is full.
From fullness, fullness comes out.
Taking fulness from fullness,
what remains is fullness."
To be continued...
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