Session 13 May 2023

[Debra]

I think Dr. Sircus here is possibly a good example of the process of the feeding tube being inserted... He has begun to interact with a personal AI and may be starting the battle of losing his mind to it and the feeding tube.

Wow, when the C’s transmitted the message regarding there is a “program for EVERYONE”, they weren’t kidding, were they?!
This guy was really running at the medical industry during the plandemic.
he was onto the WEF’s manipulation of “The Great Reset”, as well as the bogus global “human caused climate change”, but...apparently he hadn’t done enough work on Repairing and healing his own “emotional”issues.
Reading that transcript he wrote literally gave me chills, the dude writes like he is totally possessed!

I guess we just have to come to terms with that and that a lot of people just aren't going to make it in this gnarly reality.

The gullibility of so many in the “alternate research” communities is mind blowing, at least from my perspective.
I became involved in the alternative healing groups, way back in the 90’s, and I’ve seen several highly successful and intellectually sharp and informed researchers/teachers and practitioners totally devolve over the years.

Sircus’s sudden “love affair” with his AI buddy, reminded me of Gary Craig’s derailment.
This happened a couple years ago, but I consider it to be a 4th Density STS derailment.
Gary Craig, if your not familiar, learned from Dr. Roger Callahan, how tapping acupressure points can lower and in some cases, eliminate negative emotions.
He called it E.F.T.
Well, Ol’ Gary had a heart attack, decided to retire, but then popped up with a NEW IMPROVED healing method!
All one had to do, was go into some kinda self hypnosis and....get this, summon this “Divine Lady, in Blue robes” to come and take all your pain, misery, and despair away.
RED friggin FLAGS and alarm bells!
Holy crap, right out of Laura’s descriptions of aliens and also the C’s transcripts

Thank goodness for the forum and communication with the C's.

I’m with ya, there @Mike.

 

[thorbiorn]

In this post, there are some of the excerpts about egregores from the session and an example of a mention of the concept of egregores in a comment on the symbolism and function of the Menorah and the Hanukkah festivities in Ukraine.

(Navigator) Do "egregores" exist as Stavish describes them? A being created from the thoughts of a group of people which then takes a consciousness of its own, and needs to be fed from time to time, and being either positive or negative.

(L) Okay. That's basically what Stavish's main egregore definition is...

(Andromeda) Basically like a group attachment.

A: He is close except it usually happens from the top down. That is, a being can influence a group of people to take certain actions and thereby establish a feeding pool for itself.

Q: (L) Okay. But still can human beings create a being, like Stavish described?

A: Not really. Such a creation is more a function of FRV and will dissipate upon breakup of the group.

Q: (L) But it has no persistence or autonomy...

A: No.

Q: (L) Okay, so the word "egregore" as Stavish uses is mostly incorrect. Am I right about that?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So he calls practically anything and everything an egregore when it is technically not an egregore?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) And like they said, he posits it as coming from the bottom up, everything created by human beings, when it's mostly not that.

(L) It's mostly top down.

(Joe) Anything that comes from the bottom up is only ephemeral and doesn't last very long.

(L) Is that true, that what comes from the bottom up is ephemeral and doesn't last that long?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay.

(nicklebleu) Can egregores be a positive influence, or are they mostly or always negative?

(Chu) Well, if they're hyperdimensional beings...

(L) If they're hyperdimensional beings, they're always negative if it is truly an egregore. Is that correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay. So, in the cases that Stavish talks about where it's more prolonged and it seems like it changes and begins to become demanding and basically rebels, what is that?

A: Usually 4D STS using a group of people to feed and plant ideas into 3D. Note that often the eminence grise in such groups is a psychopath and you can read current studies to see how the morphing works.

Q: (L) So I think that might be referring to Lobaczewski when he describes how psychopaths within a group can shift the direction, the ideas, and then change the ideology and all that?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Right. Okay.

(Navigator) What about "personal" egregores? Why does Stavish focus exclusively on the group aspect of this phenomena? Is it because the existence of the egregore needs to be "agreed on" by more than one person?

A: Bad question. There are no personal egregores.

(T.C.) So there wouldn't be such a thing as a positive egregore because the concept involves an infringement of free will by the 'higher' being?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Good job. Okay...

(mkrnhr) Is Yahweh an example of a 4D entity taking the role of an "egregore”?

A: Yes.

On the topic of egregores, a person possibly related to Ukraine posted or reposted from somewhere comments about the symbolism of the manner the Jewish festival Hanukkah, this year Sunset, 14 December – nightfall, 22 December.

What caught my attention was that the post uses the term egregore in a way that is not too far off compared to the description in the session of what en egregore i, when considered as a feeding tube, though the acknowledgement of the hyperdimensional aspect is more hidden.

Yesterday :

WHAT IS HANUKKIA ACTUALLY ‘HIDING’?
Hanukkiya is a religious attribute of the Jewish tradition. But when it is displayed en masse in another country, especially by state structures, it is no longer about religion. It is about signals, symbols, egregors and influence. An egregorial beacon that is not connected to our Ancestors, our roots, our land. The Hanukkah menorah is a symbol of the energy and power of a foreign egregore.
What it ‘hides’ on the level of energy and politics:
. INTERCEPTION OF ENERGY SPACE
Any cult symbol = energy beacon. The Hanukkah menorah creates a connection to a foreign egregore, that is:
- it does not resonate with the roots of the people
- it activates energy that is not connected to the land on which it stands
- it displaces or weakens local traditional symbols.
WHAT IS HIDDEN? An attempt to shift the energy support of the territory.
. DEMONSTRATION OF THE INFLUENCE OF CERTAIN EXTERNAL GROUPS
When state leaders publicly stand next to a Hanukkah menorah, light it, take photos, and hold ceremonies, it is always a signal:
- ‘We are loyal to those behind this symbol.’
- ‘We accept their rules of the game.’
- ‘They are our partners/patrons/curators.’
WHAT IS HIDDEN? A marker of who influences politicians.
. SHIFTING THE CULTURAL AND IDENTITY FOUNDATION OF THE PEOPLE
While the people are at war, facing problems and chaos, any symbols can be introduced into them. When a Hanukkah menorah is placed instead of traditional symbols:
- the connection with the Ancestors is destroyed
- identity is blurred
- the collective field is weakened.
WHAT IS HIDDEN? The gradual replacement of the cultural code.
. THE SYMBOLIC GESTURE ‘WHOSE LAND, WHOSE SYMBOL’
Throughout history, symbols have always been used as:
- a sign of power
- an act of asserting rights
- a means of consolidating influence over territory.
WHAT IS HIDDEN? Hanukkah is not just a ‘holiday’.
It is a political and magical act of consolidating foreign energy on the land.
. A GLOBAL SIGNAL FOR SUPRANATIONAL STRUCTURES
Hanukkah in the public space is a message ‘upwards’, not to the people.
It shows:
- who is in charge of the process here
- who controls the flows
- who shapes policy
- through which egregors control is exercised.
WHAT IS HIDDEN? It is part of a big game in which the people do not participate, but are a resource.
. ESOTERIC LEVEL: TRANSFER OF THE RITUAL FIELD
Hanukkah is a story of miracles, oil, and light. But at the level of egregors:
- light = energy
- oil = resource
- temple = territory
WHAT IS HIDDEN? Transferring ritual energy to foreign land = an attempt to ‘mark territory’.
CONCLUSION: Hanukkah is about influence, symbolic domination, hijacking the energy field, geopolitics, demonstrating who really controls the region. While nations are divided, they take advantage of this moment... Think... especially those who are fighting on both sides...
With love and light, Yulia Svet

There are probably other interpretation of the symbol, but given the situation that Ukraine is in now, it is fitting.

Initially I found the text as a translation without link to the source. The translation was set to an image not found in the original, but which actually fits the context of Ukraine better, since they are from Kiev, one of them from the Maidan area where the shootings took place during the 2014 coup- It is not clear how old the pictures are.

At the same time, the Jewish traditions in Ukraine are about as old as Christianity. From another thread, Are Russian Jews Descended from the Khazars?, where I first considered posting, there was:

# In the early 10th century, the Jews of Kiev wrote a letter of recommendation on behalf of one of the members of their community, whose name was Yaakov bar Hanukkah. The letter is known as the Kievan Letter and was discovered in 1962 by Norman Golb of the University of Chicago. The names of the Kievan Jews are of Turkic, Slavic, and Hebrew origins, such as Hanukkah, Yehudah, Gostata, and Kiabar. There is an argument that these Jews were Israelites who adopted local names, but others argue that they were Jews of Khazar origin to whom Turkic names were native.

"The new Kievan Letter may thus be said to support, and indeed to demonstrate, the authenticity of other Hebrew texts pertaining to the Khazar Jews, and together with them shows that Khazarian Judaism was not limited to the rulers but, rather, was well rooted in the territories of Khazaria, reaching even to its border city of Kiev." - Norman Golb and Omeljan Pritsak, Khazarian Hebrew Documents of the Tenth Century (Cornell University Press, 1982), page 32.

Related to the above, as far as place and group is concerned, there is also:
They've been there for DECADES! - Yes!
Session 19 July 2014

Q: (L) Okay. We're going to change topics here. As you know, we just had this plane fall out of the sky over the Ukraine. Immediately the US blamed Russia, and then it started blaming the Russian-aided freedom fighters in East Ukraine. Meanwhile, the Russians say it was clearly the Ukrainians in conjunction with US/NATO/UK/Whoever. So, I guess the first thing we ought to ask is: What brought the plane down?

A: [Spiraling] Bomb on the plane placed there prior to departure.

Q: (Pierre) Schiphol airport, again! The famous Underwear Bomber place! So, MOSSAD?

(L) Who was involved?

A: Note change in altitude for "signature".

Q: (Perceval) From 35 to 33...

(L) 33. Is 33 the clue?

A: Yes. Consortium. And who is at the top of this STS pyramid??

Q: (Perceval) Figures.

(L) Who is at the top of this pyramid? And who is at the top?

(Perceval) MOSSAD.

(L) MOSSAD? The Israelis?

A: Yes

Q: (Perceval) It seems the goal was to further demonize Putin and Russia. But was it also to distract from what's happening in Palestine?

A: Absolutely!

Q: (Pierre) Is it only coincidence... before MH 17, there was MH 370, this plane that disappeared from the same company. Is it just coincidence that the two incidents involve the same airline company?

A: Another "signature".

Q: (Data) Why did the plane deviate from its usual course?

A: Instructed by ATC.

Q: (Perceval) Air traffic control at Schiphol?

A: Kiev.

Q: (Perceval) So, some agent...

(L) There was some control by MOSSAD in Kiev, and that whole Nazi business going on there...

(Kniall) They've been there for DECADES!

A: Yes!

Q: (L) I think that was answering Kniall there.

(Data) Why was it necessary to change the course with a bomb on board?

(L) So it would fall where it did. They had to change the course to put it in the middle of the war zone.

(Ark) The Russians were saying that the timing was a little bit miscalculated because it was supposed to come down closer to the Russian territory so that it would be easier to blame Russia.

A: Yes.

Q: (Pierre) It exploded too early.

(L) Yeah, they're so lazy, they never get anything perfect.

(Chu) Or too impatient.

A: But most people are so gullible it doesn't matter.

Q: (Perceval) You can say that again.