Here is the full Lavrov interview - great stuff, and as always a pathetic Newman (great to see the comments btw, maybe some Peterson fans will make the connection that if her position was BS in the JP interview, maybe it's BS w/r to Russia too!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9yzkCiNZQM
(Joe) I know what they're talking about: some kind of genetic warfare!
A: Yes
Q: (Artemis) Viral weapons! Resident Evil! Ooooh! I knew it!
(Joe) Are the Americans getting SO desperate that they're going to use some weapon that they developed after they collected those Russian genes last year?
A: Close
Q: (Joe) Something along those lines.
(Pierre) They say it will save, so it doesn't sound like the US will destroy Russians from their ethnic specific weapons. It sounds like it will backfire...
A: Yes. Big time!
Q: (Pierre) No way!
(Chu) So everybody's going to turn Russian!
(Artemis) We'll all speak Russian.
(Pierre) It sounds like they're developing an ethnic-specific weapon in haste which should not be used because...
(Joe) Maybe it's more along the lines of: Will they be caught trying to spread something along those lines?
(Chu) Wait and see.
A: More like finding out that your ancestors were not what you thought. No more on this. Wait and see!
Modern scientists rewrote the prehistory of the European peoples. Analysis of ancient DNA showed that genetically they are half — pastoralists-Amriki who came five thousand years ago from the southern Russian steppes. On the largest invasion of Europe...
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As new archaeological finds of the Kurgan hypothesis was strengthened, however, remained unclear. The breakthrough came after the publication of two papers in Nature in 2015. A large team of scientists has compiled data decoding ancient DNA and compared them with the genomes of crops of the bronze and iron ages, and the modern population of Europe. The conclusions are unambiguous: the DNA of dozens of European Nations in varying degrees, include the DNA of pit culture people. Norwegians, Lithuanians, Estonians, Icelanders, Scots — half the genetic descendants of the ancient shepherds.
(Joe) Are the Americans getting SO desperate that they're going to use some weapon that they developed after they collected those Russian genes last year?
A: Close
Q: (Joe) Something along those lines.
(Pierre) They say it will save, so it doesn't sound like the US will destroy Russians from their ethnic specific weapons. It sounds like it will backfire...
A: Yes. Big time!
Could it be connected to the following response also in the thread of April 14, 2018:In the light of recent speculations and suggestions by Chinese that the virus might have come from the US, the following session comes to mind and if it is the case then the backfire could hardly be any bigger:
Session 14 April 2018
A: Genetics are about to be hot topics too!
Q: (L) Well, can I finish my question? Just...
A: Genes will (hesitates before selecting word) save for lack of a better term.
Q: (L) So you ARE telling us something... So, anyway...
(Artemis) Do you want to ask...
(Andromeda) They're trying to tell us something.
(Joe) I know what they're talking about: some kind of genetic warfare!
A: Yes
Q: (Artemis) Viral weapons! Resident Evil! Ooooh! I knew it!
(Joe) Are the Americans getting SO desperate that they're going to use some weapon that they developed after they collected those Russian genes last year?
A: Close
Q: (Joe) Something along those lines.
(Pierre) They say it will save, so it doesn't sound like the US will destroy Russians from their ethnic specific weapons. It sounds like it will backfire...
A: Yes. Big time!
Q: (Pierre) No way!
(Chu) So everybody's going to turn Russian!
(Artemis) We'll all speak Russian.
(Pierre) It sounds like they're developing an ethnic-specific weapon in haste which should not be used because...
(Joe) Maybe it's more along the lines of: Will they be caught trying to spread something along those lines?
(Chu) Wait and see.
A: More like finding out that your ancestors were not what you thought. No more on this. Wait and see!
I can't make much sense of the last answer though. Anyone?
Maybe I'm completely off with the whole idea.
Maybe a question is if we came out of Africa, as the mainstream believes, or if it was rather out of Asia, or not even from this planet? Maybe the ancestors are not the ones promoted by main stream dogma.Very likely. I'm still digging on this topic; have a look at this thread:
The Forgotten Exodus: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution
What if those who work with, or believe in the out of Africa hypothesis design their weapons accordingly and then turn out to be wrong, also about their own roots. What if they in their materialist ignorance design a weapon, a virus that then mutates on coming into contact with the target, because someone in the target population or the environment, even an animal, facilitate this transformation naturally, and what if the now mutated pathogen returns to those type of people who created it and they have no immediate ability to counteract it. Genes can protect in more ways than one. Anyway this is what one finds about the genetic origin of man in the following session:Q: (L) Okay. So, anybody got any questions about that? Okay, so since everyone is supposed to be carrying on with their program, I guess we can look at some of these questions that have been presented by forum members. How about that? Okay, we've got this first question on this printout here: If Nostratic is a valid linguistic unit, does it essentially represent the original language of the Kantekkians? Well, I guess we ought to break that down and ask it: Is Nostratic a valid linguistic unit?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay, does it essentially represent the original language of the Kantekkians?
A: Half.
Q: (L) What do you mean by "half"?
A: Half belongs to earth. There was blending at a very early stage.
Q: (L) Okay. So the next question is: The putative Nostratic speakers in East Asia include the Asians that I think were the original shamans which I've discussed in Secret History and elsewhere, Altaic speakers in particular. So if this is the case, and if Nostratic as a linguistic group can be correlated with an original population from Kantek, does that mean that both the early shamans of East Asia and the circle-people of Europe (with the pyramid people further south) have their origins on Kantek?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And does the difference in phenotype between the two groups indicate admixture of the East Asian Kantekkians with a more native group that was already on Earth?
A: Yes. And notice the ongoing dispute over the "out of Africa" versus the "out of Asia" groups. It is an improper assumption. Out of Kantek vs out of Earth is a better formulation.
There is more about the origin of the Central Asian genetic type:Q: (L) Which reminds me: I was looking at my maternal DNA mutations. Apparently, my particular set of mutations go back to Crimea. That's where my maternal ancestors lived. So does that mean I'm Russian at heart?
A: Yes
Q: (Galatea) Babushka! [laughter]
(Pierre) Da!
(L) Doesn't that mean grandmother? [laughter]
Q: (Pierre) Another question: Years ago in a previous session, you mentioned that Nazi Germany was a rehearsal. Next time, who is going to play the role of the Nazis, and who is going to play the role of the Jews?
A: That should be obvious by now. The objective, as we have said, was/is to eliminate true Semites from the gene pool.
Q: (L) Well... The question I have - and I'm not sure that I ever really asked it in such a direct way, or if it was ever really answered - is: What is a Semite?
A: Central Asian genetic type formed from two main lines.
Q: (Chu) Which lines?
A: Kantekkian and Homo Sapiens.
Q: (Artemis) Didn't they say that Kantekkians were the ones most filled with light and superpowered energies inside them?
A: Yes
Q: (Artemis) So they want to get rid of superpowered energy?
A: Yes
Q: (Artemis) Evil!
(L) Okay, next question?
(Artemis) Are we Semitic?
A: Yes
Q: (Pierre) So we're going to be the Jews?
(Artemis) We are.
(Joe) None of us have Central Asia in our DNA, do we?
(L) I think we all come out of Central Asia ultimately.
(Joe) Not in our DNA results...
(L) Uh-huh! If you do all our mitochondria and stuff, you always end up there. Okay, next question?
Great dot connecting. Also, there was a session I want to find that said ‘viruses are trans-dimensional thoughts made manifest’.
Q: (L) So the electromagnetic field of the earth is a property of its spinning? And it's spinning is a property of... can be affected by electric stuff. (Belibaste) Yeah, like a motor, if it slows down, it generates less electromagnetic field. (Perceval) Getting ready for a flip. (L) Okay, we have a question that Psyche and I have been thinking about. After reading this book about viruses, we have the idea that viruses may be the means by which genetic manipulation {as in intentional coming from other densities} has taken place on this planet for millions, if not billions, of years.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Does that mean that a virus is a transdimensional manifestation?
A: Yes. Thoughts made manifest! Compare to some crop circles!
Q: (Psyche) Some viruses in the atlas DO look like crop circles. [wind noise muffles Ark's question] (Ark)...of course virus is just pure DNA, or what? (Psyche) It can be both DNA or RNA depending on the type of virus, and usually coated to protect itself. There are so many types of viruses; it can be just a piece of genetic code. (Ark) Okay, so my question is whether there is a particular part of the virus that has the property that is not just described by normal quantum physics or quantum chemistry and so on, or its the whole organization of virus that has this property?
A: Yes. Information field aggregates matter.
Q: (talk of thought vs. information) (Belibaste) Does information command or direct the aggregation of different proteins or amino acids to form a virus? Materialization?
A: Yes.
Q: (Psyche) It's very interesting because they have found in our "junk" DNA, properties of viruses that are close in location to those of stem cells, and also cells that end up producing cancer. It is quite interesting. (Perceval) That means our DNA is thought made manifest?
A: More or less!
A: Hello Earth! Things are moving fast now are they not?
[...]
(L) Alright, things are moving fast... That's what they said, right? Okay. Does anybody want to take that tennis ball and lob it back?
(Pierre) What are they referring to specifically?
A: Dionysius syndrome activated! Earth reacting! All on track!
Q: (Pierre) Dionysus is usually about hedonism, isn't it?
(L) Not exactly, it was about frenzied... just chaos. Chaos!
(Pierre) About parties, orgies, and pleasure?
(L) No. It was about death and destruction and even cannibalism. They would find a victim and cut him in pieces and eat him! Ok, so I suppose that you are specifically referring to the political behavior of the US, the UK, and France and their attack on Syria?
A: Yes and so much more.
Q: (Pierre) Their first reply goes beyond the Syrian conflict. Like the whole human population is starting to embrace this syndrome.
(L) So, we need to explore the Dionysian thing a little more to have more understanding of what that could possibly mean. Of course, what's going on right now might put a different understanding on the ancient reports.
(Joe) Mm-hmm.
(L) Alright. [Turns gauss meter back on - it automatically turns off after a few minutes] So, do we have any questions?
(Joe) I was going to ask how many of the USA's missiles were shot down in Syria?
A: 70 percent roughly.
Q: (L) So in other words, as some of these web sites have been suggesting, it was just much ado about nothing.
A: Fed the syndrome.
Q: (L) So there are people who revel in death and destruction?
A: Indeed.
Q: (Pierre) From what you describe in the Dionysus tradition, they were cutting a victim in pieces and eating him. But right now they're short of victims in Syria.
(L) I don't think that's... I was just giving you a brief, quick summary of what I knew from history. That's why I say that this may give it an all-new interpretation.
(Artemis) Well, hedonism and orgies is just a few steps before...
(L) It wasn't so much about hedonism. It was about...
(Joe) General mayhem.
(L) Yeah, it was about being driven crazy. It was madness.
(Andromeda) The Maenads...
(L) It was just MADNESS!
(Pierre) When did it reach its highest point?
(L) I dunno. It was still going on in ancient Rome. They passed laws against it.
(Pierre) But Ancient Rome around Julius Caesar's time, or later?
(L) Yeah, and I think even later. It may have even gone underground.
(Joe) It kind of erupted periodically.
(L) Yeah, it was a indulgence, going mad, chaos, death, destruction, mayhem...
(Artemis) Hedonism, and then the next step is going mad.
(Pierre) Maybe a question would be: Is the main cause for this rise in Dionysus Syndrome cosmic?
A: Partly. We told you that the STS forces [Gauss meters squeals when spelling out "forces"] would become desperate as the change approaches. Consider the madness of the so-called "liberal" faction in the USA and elsewhere.
Q: (Andromeda) So that's an example of the Dionysus Syndrome.
(L) Oh yeah, I mean think about it! I've seen some videos of those {liberal snowflakes} people acting freaking just absolutely NUTS!
(Artemis) It's their indulgence, bad habits, hedonism...
(L) "And don't say anything mean to me"...
(Artemis) And snowflakery, and, "don't judge me"...
(Joe) It's an entitlement syndrome where you feel in the moment that you're entitled to express it and get it and have those needs met. No restraint.
(Andromeda) Is that what you mean by the Dionysus Syndrome?
A: Close
Q: (L) Can we change the topic? I've been reading a lot of evolutionary biology, genetics, paleoanthropology, etc. I'm about 50 pages away from finishing a very long book on the topic of... What are you... (Cs begin answering before question is finished):
A: Genetics are about to be hot topics too!
Q: (L) Well, can I finish my question? Just...
A: Genes will (hesitates before selecting word) save for lack of a better term.
Q: (L) So you ARE telling us something... So, anyway...
(Artemis) Do you want to ask...
(Andromeda) They're trying to tell us something.
(Joe) I know what they're talking about: some kind of genetic warfare!
A: Yes
Q: (Artemis) Viral weapons! Resident Evil! Ooooh! I knew it!
(Joe) Are the Americans getting SO desperate that they're going to use some weapon that they developed after they collected those Russian genes last year?
A: Close
Q: (Joe) Something along those lines.
(Pierre) They say it will save, so it doesn't sound like the US will destroy Russians from their ethnic specific weapons. It sounds like it will backfire...
A: Yes. Big time!
Q: (Pierre) No way!
(Chu) So everybody's going to turn Russian!
(Artemis) We'll all speak Russian.
(Pierre) It sounds like they're developing an ethnic-specific weapon in haste which should not be used because...
(Joe) Maybe it's more along the lines of: Will they be caught trying to spread something along those lines?
(Chu) Wait and see.
A: More like finding out that your ancestors were not what you thought. No more on this. Wait and see!
Indeed, and more than Covid.That session is indeed interesting in light of recent events. I also thought that this exchange could be read as predicting the whole Covid thing, although I guess at the time the specifics of it all were still open:
In Who We Are and How We Got Here, by David Reich, 2017, there are two illustrations that might explain possible consequences of the US-NATO-Big Pharma dallying with bioweapons against their strategic opponents:[...]
(Pierre) They say it will save, so it doesn't sound like the US will destroy Russians from their ethnic specific weapons. It sounds like it will backfire...
A: Yes. Big time!
Q: (Pierre) No way!
(Chu) So everybody's going to turn Russian!
(Artemis) We'll all speak Russian.
(Pierre) It sounds like they're developing an ethnic-specific weapon in haste which should not be used because...
(Joe) Maybe it's more along the lines of: Will they be caught trying to spread something along those lines?
(Chu) Wait and see.
A: More like finding out that your ancestors were not what you thought. No more on this. Wait and see!
Apart from the above explanation, one could also imagine, that earth changes intervened, and/or that the farmers had developed civilizational weaknesses that made them more prone to infections.How was it that the low-population-density shepherds from the steppe were able to displace the densely settled farmers of central and western Europe? The archaeologist Peter Bellwood has argued that once densely settled farming populations were established in Europe, it would have been practically impossible for other groups coming in to make a demographic dent, as their numbers would, he thought, have been dwarfed by the already established population.32 As an analogy, consider the effect of the British or Mughal occupations of India. Both powers controlled the subcontinent for hundreds of years, but left little trace in the people there today. But ancient DNA shows definitively that major population replacement happened in Europe after around forty-five hundred years ago. How were people with steppe ancestry able to have such an impact on an already settled region? A possible answer is that the farmers who preceded them may not have occupied every available economic niche in central Europe, giving the steppe peoples an opportunity to expand. Although it is difficult to estimate population sizes from archaeological evidence, the number of people in northern Europe before two thousand years ago has been estimated to be around one hundred times less than today or even smaller, reflecting less efficient farming methods, lack of access to pesticides and fertilizers, the absence of high-yielding plant varieties, and higher infant mortality.33 When the Corded Ware culture arrived, many tilled fields in central Europe were surrounded by virgin forests. But studies of pollen records in Denmark and elsewhere show that around this time, large parts of northern Europe were transformed from partial forest to grasslands, suggesting that the Corded Ware newcomers may have cut down forests, reengineered parts of the landscape to be more like the steppe, and carved out a niche for themselves that previous peoples of the region had never fully claimed.34 There is also a second possible explanation for why the steppe peoples were able to become established in Europe—one that no one would have thought plausible without ancient DNA. Eske Willerslev and Simon Rasmussen, working with the archaeologist Kristian Kristiansen, had the idea of testing 101 ancient DNA samples from Europe and the steppe for evidence of pathogens.35 In seven samples, they found DNA from Yersinia pestis, the bacterium responsible for the Black Death, estimated to have wiped out around one-third of the populations of Europe, India, and China around seven hundred years ago. Traces of plague in a person’s teeth are almost a sure sign that he or she died of it. The earliest bacterial genomes that they sequenced lacked a few key genes necessary for the disease to spread via fleas, which is necessary to cause bubonic plague. But the bacterial genomes did carry the genes necessary to cause pneumonic plague, which is spread by sneezing and coughing just like the flu. That a substantial fraction of random graves analyzed carried Y. pestis shows that this disease was endemic on the steppe.
Is it possible that the steppe people had picked up the plague and built up an immunity to it, and then transmitted it to the immunologically susceptible central European farmers, causing their numbers to collapse and thereby clearing the way for the Corded Ware culture expansion? This would be a great irony. One of the most important reasons for the collapse of Native American populations after 1492 was infectious diseases spread by Europeans who plausibly had built up some immunity to these diseases after thousands of years of exposure as a result of living in close proximity to their farm animals. But Native Americans, who by and large lacked domesticated animals, likely had much less resistance to them. Was it possible that, in a similar way, northern European farmers after five thousand years ago were decimated by plagues brought from the east, paving the way for the spread of steppe ancestry through Europe?