Session 18 September 2021

[mabar]

(Pierre) On this line, the RNA in the vaccine code is for a protein very similar to syncytin. Mis-expression of this protein syncytin leads to disorders like schizophrenia that are considered by some researchers as possession. So my question is: Can the vaccine in some cases increase the incidence of actual possession?

A: Oh indeed!!

Thanks for the session and the effort you all put to do so.

An article developing the links between RNA vaccines, syncytin, fertility, speciation, schizophrenia and possession has just been posted here on Sott. The title is "RNA Vaccines, Obedience and Eugenics"

Good article, thanks for sharing.

Obedience comes to my mind. Have a friend, he use/used to see "dead people".. A lot of them, he had told me several experiences several years ago, more at her mother's old house, a couple of very nasty spirits/demons. The house had to be purifued after one of nasty dark one.

At that time he was married and, they could not were able to have a kid. So they decided to adopt. And, he told me that those experiences need to be put under the rug in order to have a desired family he and her spouse were pursuing. They got two kids (4 years girl and a 5 years boy). It was good the firsts 3 year,after that his behavior changed and it was needed for the kids and spouse to be separated from him, he was diagnosed with schizophrenia.

II had been in touch with him, one day I commented him if his schizophrenia may be other thing (possesed by spirits or demons). He told me that much probably and that he had made to himself some sort of exorcism/spirit release therapy. After he told me that, I share him Laura's related videos and info. He is in treatment for his "mental illness", he had been separated and had been well although, he developed a glaucoma that later will be turned blind and he is very aware of that. Due to that, he is already pentioned and is living with both of his adopted kids (mother whom is working, had not time to take care of them, with clases on line). And, they had decided to not get them in school with masks).

In this Plandemia, he had been informed, he had been reading more about the dangers of the jabs, the masks etc.

But, out of the blue, he announced he had taken the jab. He got sick, he had other illness that with the jab had been increased and, last time I talked to him, I share more info about the jab and the protocols, he told me, he may check it out, but that he will follow what his doctors were telling him. He had been better now. That was like two months ago.

I had not asked him if he saw Laura's videos nor if he had read the last artícles of protocols. He had not mentioned anything related either.

Wil share Pierre's article at FB, perhaps my friend might see it. I do not think it is convenient to share it personally.

 

[Palinurus]

It has been mentioned before that Julius Cesar is a Christ. C's also mentioned that first Christ was a woman. Sorry I cannot find now the transcript that says about Christ being in trance for some time. Couple of days I believe... Could it be a reference of Paul getting inspired?

From Session October 9, 1994:

Q: (L) Details about Jesus' extended "sleep" state.

A: He spent 96 hours in a comatose state in a cave near Jerusalem. When he awoke, he prophesied to his disciples and then exited the cave. 27,000 people had assembled because of mother ship appearance and he was taken up in a beam of light.

From Session July 12, 2014 (bold, mine):
Please note that this comatose state of hyper-consciousness applies to the question what happens when people pray to Jesus, not the above mentioned one - don't confuse the two as I erroneously did for a while

Q: (L) Anything else anybody wants to ask about that before we change topics? Everybody here is waiting for the change of topic... Okay, I've been going over all of the early sessions, and I noticed that I had a particular obsession with the topic of Jesus during the first year at the very least, 1994, because of my particular religious upbringing and background and so forth. And I had a lot of energy invested in - not just a lot of energy, but a lot of emotion - so, I'm reading back over these previous answers we received on the topic of Jesus, and I would like to ask if, in fact, Julius Caesar is Jesus, or was the model for Jesus, why were you giving me answers that sometimes could have been applied to Caesar, but other times could not?
A: You would not have been able to receive. When you ask a question with strong prejudice, we cannot violate your will to believe.
Q: (L) I think we asked about Caesar... Didn't we also ask if there was somebody also in Palestine who was...
(Perceval) Was there even a real person that played any part in the creation of the Jesus Story.
(L) And what did they say at that time?
(Perceval) There was someone.
(Pierre) An unknown person.
(L) So, was there someone, because on one occasion I asked about what Jesus looked like, and you gave a description which obviously... And I think I prefaced it "Jesus of Nazareth" or "Jesus in Palestine"... I mean, I put all kinds of qualifiers around my questions at the time.
(Perceval) And the answer you got was...
(L) Yeah, what I got was GIGO: Garbage In, Garbage Out. I mean, what do you expect? But was that description... [laughs] I don't even know why I need to ask! Was that individual related in some way to the story, the one that was described who was a carpenter?
A: A stoic philosopher of local fame now long forgotten except for minor contribution to the Jesus legend.
Q: (L) So, a person who is really wrapped up in a belief about Jesus could be asking questions about Jesus, this guy who was in this particular area and did whatever, and the answers could come up about that individual, but in the larger scheme of things, the real model was Caesar?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay. The other question is: You once talked about Jesus being in a state of hyperconsciousness, the soul-replicating thing and people talking to him, and so on and so forth. Does that have anything to do with Caesar?
A: Indeed it does!
Q: (L) Okay, so... Hmm.
(Perceval) Can I asked a question?
(L) Yeah.
(Perceval) Was Caesar... What I kind of wanted to ask is: Was Caesar of the kind of quality of soul that people kind of ascribe to Jesus in a certain sense, even though that's a myth? Was he a highly-evolved soul of kind of higher density or higher level, or higher nature?
A: That should come through even highly charged prejudicial tales.
Q: (L) Let me come back to that. I'm not quite ready for that yet. I want to ask one other question. When I asked the question about Jesus or something, and there was something about three days in a comatose state, 96 hours of clear-channel meditation, emergence, prophesying to his followers, and then ascending into a mother ship? WHERE did that come from??
A: You and Frank mostly.
Q: (Andromeda) Did anything similar to that happen?
(L) You want to know did anything similar to that take place with anybody, at any time?
A: No
Q: (L) So, Frank was onto the UFOs, and I was pretty determined that something remarkable must have happened. So between the two of us and our extremely strong invested beliefs, I don't see how anything else could have come through.
(Perceval) That story about Jesus coming to the cave, or being placed in a cave... That comes straight from your biblical...
(L) My biblical training! And the UFO, Frank was all about UFOs! [laughter]
(Perceval) Trance meditation, you were fairly into that at the time.
(L) So, it occurs to me that in terms of many of the transcripts, probably the best information is when we didn't have any beliefs or assumptions about anything at all. We were just asking out of pure curiosity.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay, well, I'm going to try to avoid having any beliefs or assumptions here about Caesar. [laughter]

Based on reading Laura's latest book From Paul to Mark - PaleoChristianity I think Paul was certainly inspired but in other ways and by other means than a direct download in a comatose state.

 

[iamthatis]

@iamthatis, I never tried to put the below into words... Thank you for bringing this up.



When I am interacting with someone who make sense it is almost mystical experience. With the lack of better term I can call it The Presence of Divine. In case careless speculations and assumptions are applied it can easily turn into faulty concept. Such concept formalized and structured can turn into a religion. Religion ponerised becomes a cult.

I find it quite intriguing that church (kirche, церковь [cérkovʹ]) resemble a word "circle". "Church is not an institution or building, but people" used to say my teacher of Religion in school. Family circle, circle of friends, circle of interests... In other words Network.

In regards to comparison with Bell's curve. Funny enough nowadays it seem normal people are being pushed to become even more better. Either this or cognitive dissonance. Without the chaos (personal or global) there would be no reason to look for the answers, try harder, exceed once own expectations.

16-october-1994


After comets cluster passing by it doesn't seem likely to be a technology/media we are familiar with today.

It has been mentioned before that Julius Cesar is a Christ. C's also mentioned that first Christ was a woman. Sorry I cannot find now the transcript that says about Christ being in trance for some time. Couple of days I believe... Could it be a reference of Paul getting inspired?

Great post!

Your etymology of Church reminds me of a story from The Odyssey.

Circe was a goddess who lived on the Isle of Aeaea.

Odysseus and crew land at Aeaea after some misadventures with the King of the Wind. At this point in the saga, Odysseus is learning to not trust his crew, who have made some serious mistakes. He's learning to abide by his own council first and foremost. I see this as him making the transition from dependent 'herd-member' to a thinking Individual who is developing his ability to SEE.

The island of Aeaea is covered in thick forests and populated by tame beasts. The crew travels in ahead of Odysseus and make it to Circe's beautiful country house. She feeds his crew a meal sweetened with honey, and laced with a trance-inducing potion... and the crew turns into animals! Odysseus was warned of this by a loyal crew member. Plus Athena sent Hermes to help him. Hermes said that there was an herb he could use, Moly, that would protect him against Circe's wiles.

"The root was black, while the flower was as white as milk; the gods call it Moly, Dangerous for a mortal man to pluck from the soil, but not for the deathless gods. All lies within their power".

Obviously it was some sort of powerful plant. From what I've read, there has been some debate among historical ethnobotanists about the plant's Moly existence. Was it totally made up? Is it real? Does it still exist? Some say it is a regional flower in the snowdrop family. There is a white flower in the region, a snowdrop, that contains galantamine, which has properties that aids in treating amnesia, hallucinations, and delusions - all of the afflictions caused by Circe's potions! Notably, these mental effects occur when the acetylcholine pathway is blocked. So the herb Moly is a medicine for clarity of sight and thought. Perhaps in both myth, and real life.

Part of tobacco's 'sacred status' amongst many Indigenous cultures is the knowledge that it is well known as a 'clarity-of-thought' plant spirit. So we can imagine Odysseus rolling up a smoke (Holy Moly!) before heading through the woods to the party at Circe's place. He's feeling pretty good at this point. He doesn't fall under her spell.

So here's the kicker. I think the story of Circe may be an ancient warning about predatory institutions in general, and perhaps even the Church in particular. This is based on two points.

(1) The correlation between Circe's character in the myth, and the character of the Church in our current day. 'Circe' is a female figure who invites people into her house, casts a spell on them, feeds them, and turns them into livestock. Unfortunately, that sounds a lot like what the 'Mother Church' is doing, too.

(2) The etymology of Circe and Church. I don't know precisely where our word Church comes from, or why there's always reference to the 'Mother Church'. But in Scotland the word for Church was was Kirk... in Germany, it was Kirche. And I see you've quoted what looks like the Cyrillic version of Church... церковь [cérkovʹ], which is linked to the word circle.

Religion is a word that is loaded, of course, but the common reading is that it means 'to bind or reconnect'. Re-ligare. Circe's name resonates with the Greek word kirkoô, meaning 'to secure with rings or to enclose in a hoop, a circle'. It's a reference to the binding power of spell-casting. Religions around the world could be seen as engaged in this binding, fencing, or creation of an enclosure, where they keep their livestock... their human flock.

All of this makes me quite suspicious that the story of 'Circe' is indeed a warning about predatory institutions like the Church. Circe is the Church personified.

Now, I've heard that any good story doesn't like to be left unfinished. It's an insult to the story.

So, Odysseus heads into the party at Circe's, having just smoked his 'Holy Moly'. The gods told him that he would be protected, and he was. They also told him that he must take her to bed! The poor guy. So as she approaches him with hunger in her eyes, out flashes his sword, which he holds to her throat. She falls to her knees, apparently smitten with him. And off to bed they go.

Odysseus and crew spend a year there. Odysseus ends up falling into a bit of a Circe trance after all, forgetting his Aim in life. But finally they head off to the Underworld to hang out with Tiresias.

Interpretations abound, of course. What does it all mean?

I don't think it's just a story about a dude 'dominating the witch' and then getting sex as a reward. That's way too literal. Often sex in myth is a way of speaking about unlocking one's genetic and spiritual potential, and growing the Soul.

At the same time as this story is a warning about a predatory or ponerized Church, it is also a story about our own internal state... the imbalance of masculine and feminine energies inside all of us. Or the left and right brain imbalances. The imbalances of darkness and light. Yin and Yang.

We all have a hungry, dishonest, ruthless Predator Mind who tries to be in control, causing these imbalances. In developing the ability to SEE (with the help of Moly and a few gods) Odysseus was freed to enjoy earthly love with Circe. So their union is the 3D version of the higher divine love. It grounds or channels the archetype. It is one expression of the arrival of the Truth, understood as a genuine union of the masculine and feminine, the balancing of Reason and Faith, both hemispheres of the brain.

But even then, he was there for a year. The warning here is that unless one is careful, it is possible to lose our direction and our Aim in the Work when looking too deeply into a lover's eyes...

 

[kiret]

Session Date: September 18th 2021

Laura, Andromeda, and Artemis at the board

Pierre, Joe, Chu, Ark, PoB, Scottie, Niall, Gaby, Noko the Wonderdog, Princess Leia, Pikabu the Cat

Q: (L) Today is September 18, 2021. The usual suspects: [Review of those present] Okay, let's begin. Hello. Is anybody out there?

A: Gloriaea in excelsis!

Q: (L) Is that your name?

A: First part will serve.

Q: (L) So, Gloriaea. And you just added the 'in excelsis' to that?

A: Yes

Q: (Artemis) We already had a Gloriaea at the board.

(L) It's from a song.

(Chu) It's a latin thing.

["Gloria in excelsis Deo" is Latin for "Glory to God in the highest"]

(L) So, as Gaby pointed out, what I said before the session is a question. I can't think of a specific question that I want to ask, except for the fact that I feel the need for a session because things are so strange. I feel this building sensation of inner stress - like a tension. Waiting for the other shoe to drop. Something like that. So, what's going on?

A: Now would be a good time to ponder the lessons contained in the Parable of the Sower.

[Summary]

The Parable of the Sower (sometimes called the Parable of the Soils) is a parable of Jesus found in Matthew 13:1–23, Mark 4:1–20, Luke 8:4–15 and the extra-canonical Gospel of Thomas.[1]

Again Jesus began to teach by the lake. The crowd that gathered around him was so large that he got into a boat and sat in it out on the lake, while all the people were along the shore at the water’s edge. He taught them many things by parables, and in his teaching said: “Listen! A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants, so that they did not bear grain. Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up, grew and produced a crop, some multiplying thirty, some sixty, some a hundred times.”

Then Jesus said, “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.”

When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that,“‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’”

Then Jesus said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How then will you understand any parable? The farmer sows the word. Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them. Others, like seed sown on rocky places, hear the word and at once receive it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. Still others, like seed sown among thorns, hear the word; but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful. Others, like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop—some thirty, some sixty, some a hundred times what was sown.”

Q: (L) Well, I wrote about it in From Paul to Mark. There was somebody who was giving a really interesting interpretation whose work I cited. It was his deduction from his analysis of the text that the Parable of the Sower was one of the secrets of the Kingdom of God which was that there were different types of human beings and that they simply were that way by their very nature. But at the same time, the wiles of the devil were always working, too. So there are people of different types. Any further comment on that? We can discuss it on the forum.

A: These are the times that try men's souls. And perhaps now you can understand the full meaning of that statement. Some souls do not do well under stress and pressure and the human system is constructed to alleviate stress by whatever means necessary.

Q: (L) Well, I guess that's pretty much a description of what we see around us.

(Andromeda) That's something I've been thinking a lot about lately, actually.

(L) Most people simply can't handle the stress or pressure, and they make whatever rationalizations they need to themselves to give up or change their course or to justify whatever... Anything to get rid of their stress, any kind of feeling bad.

(Joe) Is getting vaccinated one way that people are alleviating that stress?

A: Indeed.

Q: (Pierre) And this tension I think is this divide between those kinds of souls and the other ones. The chasm is widening because I think the vaccine reinforces this way of wishfully thinking.

(Joe) Just believing a lie does that.

(L) There are other ways, I mean... People who think that resisting the vaccine to the death is the only way to go, for example.

(Andromeda) That's not the only way to resist.

(L) And becoming wild radicals is not a good idea. Well, certainly there are people who are suited to being radical and doing things that may end up being violent or something. That's not our way. I think that for us, it's not the right way. So, I dunno... Just a lot to think about. How do different souls fit into different categories on both sides of the equation: pro-vaccine AND anti-vaccine? Alright, any further questions on that?

(Gaby) Is there any reason why they have this deadline of the 15th of October to get everyone vaccinated? Is there a reason?

A: Changes are coming and they know it.

Q: (L) As in climate changes, or planetary changes, or Earth changes, or somewhere in that category?

A: Yes. Close.

Q: (Artemis) What about aliens?

A: Close

Q: (Artemis) Close to aliens and close to Earth changes, okay! Earth-changing aliens!

(L) I have to say that people who have been willingly vaccinated are probably gonna be the aliens! [laughter]

(Andromeda) Alien zombies!

(L) But for those who believe the vaccine is the solution...

(Joe) Yeah, but not for those who know what it is and took steps to protect themselves.

(Artemis) Is Cthulhu coming to smite people for their insolence?

A: Close

Q: (L) Close! Jesus... [laughter] Okay, questions?

(Joe) A year and a half ago, they gave a time frame of about 2 years for some kind of a REAL pandemic or viral outbreak. There's a lot of evidence that the mRNA vaccinations especially are actually suppressing people's immune systems. Is the C's time frame still correct? Those who are weakened would be very vulnerable to a real virus. Are we still on track maybe next spring for that kind of thing?

A: Close enough. Things are soon to get more dramatic. Be glad of the period of relatively controlled mayhem.

Q: (L) In other words, what we've been going through where it seems like we're just waiting, waiting, waiting to see what's gonna happen, we're gonna look back on this as a rest period?!

A: Close

Q: (Andromeda) It seems like we're waiting, waiting, waiting for something bad to happen. Well, that's what you're doing... [laughter]

(L) Next question?

(Pierre) How many people on the planet were killed by the Covid vaccines?

(Chu) Well, you can't even get a proper answer to that because what if there are other factors?

(L) Yeah, I don't think I'd ask those kinds of questions.

(Niall) Which vaccines? How sick were they before getting them?

(L) Too many variables. You'd have to break it down.

(Joe) Well, I dunno... It could be pretty clear cut. You might have people who would have lived this many times longer, except they didn't because of the vaccine...

(L) Okay, rephrase the question.

(Joe) How many people globally died so far where the vaccine was the main contributing factor to their death?

A: 200k or thereabouts.

Q: (Niall) Somebody out there came up with that figure.

(Andromeda) It's almost 7 times what they reported officially.

(Pierre) They said 37,000 in the West.

(Andromeda) But with a margin of error where it could be 10 times higher.

(Joe) There's a lot of articles in the past two weeks about rumors of food shortages this winter due to various reasons. It's not just high food prices, but food shortages. Lots of reasons are given: the Covid thing, destruction of business, fuel shortages, etc. Is that something that's likely to...?

A: Weather destruction of food sources has been covered up by fake news.

Q: (L) So it's worse than they let on?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) They're just holding back a flood, ya know? But it's gonna reach a breaking point.

(L) So, it's time for the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse!

A: You can hear the hoof beats in the distance.

Q: (L) Oooh! [laughter]

(Andromeda) That's dramatic!

(L) What about the creature you mentioned earlier?

(Artemis) Cthulhu?

(L) Does he ride a horse?

(Pierre) He's from H.P. Lovecraft novels.

(Artemis) Next they're gonna say Satan's gonna rise up from the Earth! [laughter]

(Andromeda) With fire shooting out of his eyes! Creepy!

(L) We're just batting a thousand tonight! [laughter] Next question?

(Pierre) The organ where scientists found the highest concentration of the COVID vaccine is the ovaries. Is that by design?

A: Not human intent, but influences from other realms have that as a goal.

Q: (Artemis) So why the ovaries?

(Chu) Because it reduces fertility.

(L) And creates mutations. A new race.

(Pierre) Is one of the objectives to create a new race?

A: Close

Q: (L) Another experiment on the human race...

A: Yes

Q: (L) That reminds me: A long time ago, we asked a question about how all of humanity fell or became entrapped in 3d... They said something about how DNA became modified and certain factors being canceled in the DNA. It was all being done simultaneously. It was something about light doing it. We'll have to find the exact excerpt. But the thing is that, in a certain sense, technically speaking that's almost what they're doing right now. And when you figure out that alien technology is still somewhat material, then you wonder what happened back then. Was there some kind of vaccine that they gave everybody back then?

(Artemis) I've also noticed that people who have taken vaccines think that vaccines are good. So I think vaccines make people think that vaccines are good.

(L) Well, they have to think they're good because they invest themselves in them.

(Andromeda) Yeah, they have to justify their decisions.

(L) Alright. Next question?

(Joe) Is Michelle Obama a man? [laughter]

A: No

Q: (L) Oh rats! I was SO sure! I was so sure she was! [laughter] Michael Obama. Next question? Anybody brave enough?

(Artemis) So they said the vaccine affects the ovaries. Hasn't it already been found before that it affects the pineal or pituitary glands? And isn't the pineal or pituitary used for picking up channeling frequencies?

(L) Probably both.

(Artemis) So does that mean that vaccines make it so people pick up negative frequencies?

A: Yes

Q: (Artemis) So that means people who've been vaccinated are channeling Satan. [laughter] Okay, that's extreme, but...

(L) They can definitely download some weird stuff. But only those susceptible, I think.

(Pierre) On this line, the RNA in the vaccine code is for a protein very similar to syncytin. Mis-expression of this protein syncytin leads to disorders like schizophrenia that are considered by some researchers as possession. So my question is: Can the vaccine in some cases increase the incidence of actual possession?

A: Oh indeed!!

Q: (Artemis) [in a demonic voice] 'The vaccine is preparing the vessels!' [laughter]

(L) This is just getting creepier by the minute!

(Pierre) Remember the session where the C's said they're preparing to control you in 4th density?

(L) That's their goal.

(Joe) They also said that Hitler's goal of creating a Master Race was just a trial run...

(L) Oh Jesus... I never thought about that.

(Joe) He didn't have vaccines mind you, but... If you want to create a new race or to change people by the billions, you have to inject them with DNA. They're basically being injected with DNA.

(Pierre) But is it working exactly according to their plan?

(Joe) Well, they said already about mutations and stuff.

(Pierre) I would like to know why the 3rd dose, 4th dose, 5th dose... Is it only to...

(Joe) That's to cover up the fact that it's not working.

A: They keep hitting snags. It's not nice to try to control Mother Nature.

Q: (L) So Mother Nature... Nature is getting in the way.

(Artemis) Are there some kind of ignorant innocent people who can be spared this if they're forced to get the vaccine? Can they be protected in some way just simply by their soul essence?

A: Yes

Q: (Artemis) Well, that's good. Some people are just kind and sweet, and they're just doing it because they have to.

(L) Yeah.

(Joe) What percentage of the global population can see this more or less for what it is: something evil or wrong?

A: 12 percent.

Q: (Niall) We said 10%.

(Pierre) It's interesting because it's the exact number, 12%, of health workers in France that preferred to be fired than to be injected.

(L) 12 percent. Interesting.

(Artemis) It's also forcing the smart people to make themselves known. You notice how they want your ID more and more on web sites. They want to know who everybody is and where they are.

(L) Anybody got any more questions?

(Ark) Me. I was playing with my model of superluminal communication. I would like to know about this 'We are you in the future'. Can it be said that it's like 100-200 years in the future, or 1000-2000 years, or... Can I have an estimation of how far in the future in numbers? If it can be said. Not exact, but a range.

A: It can vary, but usually under 1k years or too much signal corruption.

Q: (L) Less than 1000 years.

(Pierre) I'm trying to reconcile the AD timeline of history and the BP timeline, ice cores and dendrochronology. There seems to be one matching marker at 536 AD - a year without summer, very cold, very bad weather - seemingly matching the 1500 BP mark with a converging cooling all over the planet revealed by ice cores and tree rings. So my question is: Is it a real match?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) In a previous session you mentioned about 470 years added between us and Julius Caesar. If it matches, it means these 470 years were added before 536 AD?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) It means Caesar died about 70 years before this 536 event?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) Wow. It means there's no late or middle Roman Empire!

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) Everything is collapsing. Yes, yes, yes. It's all gone. That's what we thought.

(L) And documents were faked to fill in the gap.

(Niall) Fake emperors and stuff.

(Joe) If there's a kind of rough mirror in this go-round, first Caesar and then a Dark Ages and collapse... And then in our era, a close match might be JFK as this era's Caesar. 1963. Plus 70 years is 2033.

(Pierre) Oh, I see what you mean.

(Niall) So 70 years after Caesar's death. So it's 44 BC. What's 44 + 70? So it's right after the fall, kaboom, it's gone. In fact, Paul didn't live very long.

(Pierre) Kaboom, and you transition to the Justinian plague.

(L) So in other words, Paul was right: the end of the world WAS coming?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) And the 2 or 3 missing centuries after the Justinian plague, they were not made up. They were there, but there was nothing going on because everybody was dead!

(L) Yeah, 90% death rate in the archaeology around Rome.

(Joe) Does that mean that JFK and Laura are this era's Caesar and Paul? [laughter]

(L) Oh, stop it! [laughter]

(Joe) Well, answer the question!

A: Silly!

Q: (Joe) Silly? That means yes.

(Niall) But when was the Jewish War then? And Josephus? That would have to be AFTER the collapse...

(Joe) Where's your Jewish War, Laura?

(L) I don't think there was a Jewish War.

(Joe) Somebody could have just been writing a fairytale...

(L) There was stuff going on at that time, like rebellion, but... Sorting out that MESS would be a labor of Hercules. I mean, Hercules was asked to clean the Augean stables. He was not asked to refill them. [laughter]

(Joe) All those events can be... I mean, you take events that happened in our recent history and you imagine someone chronicling that, you could expand that out over a long period of time. The amount of stuff that has happened if you took discrete events over the past 20 years, you could expand those out over a long period of time if you want.

(L) Sure. You could just write stuff and make some editorial changes, add stuff, re-use stories, and... I mean, look what I found that happened with Gregory of Tours vs. the Eastern Empire records. The whole history of Gregory of Tours fits into a slot that is completely blank in the records of the Eastern Empire. It's as though they stole that material and used it to write his history. God, how many times did they do that... Alright, anybody else have any questions? I'm getting depressed. [laughter]

(Chu) I have a related one. With all this fudging of history, is it true that there was never any vulgar Latin, and the chronology as it's depicted is wrong?

A: Yes

Q: (L) It affects everything - EVERYTHING. It's like a falling domino. It's enough to make you want to run out of the house screaming!

(PoB) I have a question. Was seeding Communism at the beginning of the 19th century more or less a rehearsal to what seems to be developing now?

A: Partly. It is all part of the bigger picture.

Q: (L) Anything else?

(Artemis) Do you remember that link that you sent me about the 'Well to Hell' or whatever in the Middle East?

(Joe) It's in... Yemen.

(Artemis) Is there anything strange down there?

A: Not really.

Q: (Artemis) So people there are just paranoid for no reason.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) I have a question for you, Laura. Where's Caesar buried?

(L) Caesar was burned.

(Joe) Doesn't he have a little urn somewhere?

(L) Maybe, but if so, it was probably put in the same tomb that Augustus built. But then that was ransacked at the time of the barbarian invasions.

(Joe) And destroyed? So there's no reference and nobody knows of any particular place?

(L) We can't go find any pieces of Caesar, no.

(Joe) No, but a rough area where he was buried.

(L) Probably people gathered his ashes or took pieces home or whatever. He was burned in the center of Rome in that place that we saw when we were there. That was supposedly the place where he was burned.

(Joe) So that's pretty much his burial site.

(L) Yeah.

(Artemis) Do the potential supernatural negative effects of human vaccines also apply to animal vaccines?

A: Not so much since animal vaccines are not so loaded with negative elements.

Q: (L) So they're just trying to make a vaccine for animals without...

(Artemis) Without possessing the animals!

(L) Yeah, without piggybacking control elements onto it. Alright... If there's anything we failed to ask that we should have asked but were too shell-shocked to ask, please let us know!

A: Just keep eyes and ears open and SEE! Goodbye.

(L) Well, I guess things are about to get real... SHOWTIME!!

END OF SESSION

Thank you all!

 

[kiret]

Yeah, close. But then he'll change his mind, so it's gonna be fine. I described it here some months ago:

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HAHAHA great art :D

 

[nyseday]

With all this doom and gloom, I wonder if anyone out there has the same fear as I do:

Mainly, sooooo many books to read and so little time. I'm an avid reader and I just don't like how little time I have to do that.

Once I was meditating on answer as to what books should I be reading. Answer came: read all, patterns will emerge.
I will give you an example: Fulcanelli once said in "Dwellings of Philosophers" to 'meditate on sundial, gnomism.' I had no idea. Year later I was reading Neal Stephenson "Quicksilver". And, the answer is nicely explained there. With a further guidance to read Descartes on Meditations. Reading that now, and oh boy, yes, more added knowledge.

On another topic: been listening to this whistleblower that states, that in the higher echelon of government and CIA officials there is a certain panic because they are whispering amongst themselves that "the old gods of Sumer and Mesopotamia are coming back".
Could this be what the C's are eluding to?

 

[DreamGod]

On another topic: been listening to this whistleblower that states, that in the higher echelon of government and CIA officials there is a certain panic because they are whispering amongst themselves that "the old gods of Sumer and Mesopotamia are coming back".
Could this be what the C's are eluding to?

Do you have any link to that topic?

 

[nyseday]

Do you have any link to that topic?

The closest link I could find is from news-intel.com articles called "Pentagon's greatest secret revealed by inside information: Annunaki are returning to earth". if you scroll down the article there is a short YouTube video talking about it. Mind you, I take it with a grain of salt. Until I'm proven wrong.

 

[MJF]

With all this doom and gloom, I wonder if anyone out there has the same fear as I do:

Mainly, sooooo many books to read and so little time. I'm an avid reader and I just don't like how little time I have to do that.

Once I was meditating on answer as to what books should I be reading. Answer came: read all, patterns will emerge.
I will give you an example: Fulcanelli once said in "Dwellings of Philosophers" to 'meditate on sundial, gnomism.' I had no idea. Year later I was reading Neal Stephenson "Quicksilver". And, the answer is nicely explained there. With a further guidance to read Descartes on Meditations. Reading that now, and oh boy, yes, more added knowledge.

On another topic: been listening to this whistleblower that states, that in the higher echelon of government and CIA officials there is a certain panic because they are whispering amongst themselves that "the old gods of Sumer and Mesopotamia are coming back".
Could this be what the C's are eluding to?

The C's have referred to the Third Man Theme on a few occasions and I think most people on the Forum understand by now what they meant. However, some of their answers and clues can be multifaceted. The Third Man Theme may be an example of this. You mention the old gods of Sumer and Mesopotamia are coming back. Since these gods were in all probability the Lizards, then this makes sense as we move towards the transition to a 4th density earth, which is the density they are most comfortable in. This idea of beings who masqueraded as gods only to disappear from view and then return late in the day can be related I think to the plot of the famous Film Noir movie The Third Man, written by Graham Greene and starring Orson Welles. See The Third Man - Wikipedia.

In the movie, Welles' character Harry Lime is presumed to have been killed in a car accident at the beginning of the movie. However, unbeknown to most of the other characters in the film, Lime (who was a post war racketeer) has faked his death and only reappears late in the movie, where he is finally killed after a shoot out. The movie also features iconic theme music composed by Anton Kara who performed the movie score, which featured only one instrument, the zither.

I seem to recall that the C's suggested that the Lizards would on their return seek to restore their previous status as gods to be worshipped by mankind - 'the future honour of Ra'. Ra, as the Egyptian sun god, can be compared to Marduk his Sumerian and Babylonian counterpart. Marduk also went under the name 'Bel' meaning Lord who in turn was worshipped by the Irish druids, who equated bel with the sun. Jupiter was his Roman equivalent and Apollo his Greek. Let's hope the Lizards ultimately suffer the same fate as Harry Lime.

 

[iamthatis]

To those that react with ”sad”, please don’t!

This was not a sad post!

My mission here was to learn and decide if this experience has a future value for me!

It doesn’t!

I have been able to integrate enough data from “history“, physics, sociology, biology, and all of the other “ologies”, that, for me, the investment does not generate an acceptable return!

Simple as that!

It is not sad! It is as simple as a ROI calculation!

Whether the next iteration is 4D or 3D, proof is that this realm is so hopelessly corrupted that, in my estimation, there is no net benefit of being here!

What I have learned - DEEP into my soul - is that I know not to EVER come back!!!

It is liberation! When faced with the ultimate choice, the answer is, “Y’know, thanks, but no thanks!”

In this life, I was cursed/blessed with a “Rain Man” intelligence/naiivety, but, as a result, have seen deeper into this world than anyone should ever see…

I recognized and challenged those that claim this world, and they absolutely destroyed me!

But, in doing-so, they revealed their true selves, their game, their limitations, and the nature of the machine they have created…

Eventually I will leave this world - as everyone does - but, when I do, I will leave this world with my SELF intact, and an absolute knowledge that the con is over and I will NEVER EVER come back!

My soul has finally learned its lesson…

I am now free.

I can now live, love, and enjoy every moment left that this world has to offer - while it lasts, but when it is finally over, it is OVER!!!

And I, for one, will appreciate all I have learned, but I will also be relieved to be free of the pain and the corruption.

It could be that your desire to get out is exactly what will keep you here.

I can't know exactly how you see things. But there's something going on in this post that has me wondering. I'm thinking of a young student in Grade Three. This young pupil has been studying hard for a long time. He's committed and loves learning. At a certain point, he raises his hand and declares to the teacher, "I have understood enough of this place. I have decided that I have learned what I need to learn. At the end of the day, I will move on and not come back. I am ready." What do you think the teacher would say?

I'm not saying that you haven't learned some very valuable lessons. It sounds like you've 'died to the world of the flesh'. And there is a prayer in your words for 'a realm of Service to others and sharing of the boundless beauty of Creation'. But sometimes an Aim can devolve into a desire, and become just another personal projection for the metamorphosis of reality - and not an acceptance of what is.

At any rate, your post brings up a lot of excellent questions for me. Is my desire for transition a plea coming from self-importance? Am I engaged in the Work for its own sake, or am I doing it all in order to get something? Am I anticipating The Wave, and assuming that I'll be one of the ones 'lifted up with wings as eagles?' How do I know I have enough 'change' to pay the fare?

I'm remembering that there's an 'ascension warning' in certain old stories - when we fly too high, we burst into flames and fall. And then we have to deal with ourselves in the ashes and the ocean.

So yeah, you've made a great series of very honest posts here recently - thank you for sharing!

 

[Charade]

So with the added almost 500 years, is it correct to think that instead of 2021 it's really 1521-1600 somewhere? I know dating is arbitrary and selective, but I feel like I'm missing a bigger point here and I don't want to just gloss over it.

Thanks for the new session too, always they give a lot to think about.

 

[Charade]

Session 28th November 2009 said:
A: You work on the other side and don't anticipate what the universe can and will do if the ground is prepared! [..]



This is the positive comment from the C’s gives me hope in some possible dire situations we will have to face!

 

[Mari]

About "aliens"

(Gaby) Is there any reason why they have this deadline of the 15th of October to get everyone vaccinated? Is there a reason?

A: Changes are coming and they know it.

Q: (L) As in climate changes, or planetary changes, or Earth changes, or somewhere in that category?

A: Yes. Close.

Q: (Artemis) What about aliens?

A: Close

Q: (Artemis) Close to aliens and close to Earth changes, okay! Earth-changing aliens!

(L) I have to say that people who have been willingly vaccinated are probably gonna be the aliens! [laughter]

(Andromeda) Alien zombies!

While watching video Michael shared here Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story? I remembered that the C´s (?) mentioned something about holograms and staged invasion (I couldn´t find the referenced session...), BUT also in terms of "aliens" here is also session Session 22 July 2012 :

Q: (L) Vewy intewesting. Any other questions on that topic? I think I asked this before... I have the feeling that the so-called "alien invasion" is really comets.

A: Pretty much.

...and from the same session:

Q: (L) Well. Alright then. Oh, what is up with the ZOMBIES?? Oh my god!!!

A: We covered that as well! People deteriorating!

So people deteriorating physically and psychically (because of the vaccines) while the comets rain from the sky...

 

[Jones]

So if the jab can cause schizophrenia and at the same time there will be a 'thinning of the veil' I guess there will be those will be perceiving unusual things, some of whom maybe schizophrenic and others who maybe perceiving a deeper reality. Which is which might be tricky to navigate. Perhaps that's part of the reason why the C's place emphasis on 'SEE'. Just a thought that occured while reading through the responses.

 

[woneill1701]

It could be that your desire to get out is exactly what will keep you here.

I can't know exactly how you see things. But there's something going on in this post that has me wondering. I'm thinking of a young student in Grade Three. This young pupil has been studying hard for a long time. He's committed and loves learning. At a certain point, he raises his hand and declares to the teacher, "I have understood enough of this place. I have decided that I have learned what I need to learn. At the end of the day, I will move on and not come back. I am ready." What do you think the teacher would say?

Imagine instead a Grade Three pupil standing up in class after an indoctrination session on Critical Race Theory, and how to explore pan sexuality, and saying to the faculty, “This isn’t education! You guys are just a bunch of satanic perverts!”

I am a great believer in “As above, so below.”

In the same way that we have, in the last few years, seen an accelerating degradation in the “education“ given to our kids at school, in my 50 years here I have noticed a slower, but similarly accelerating, degradation in the experience of being in our “school”.

I’m not talking about the recent descent of the so-called western democracies into fascism.

I’m talking about reality itself becoming more contrived and formulaic, with a specific agenda that is becoming more and more visible.

To switch away from the school analogy, imagine some great classic epic film being converted and used as the basis of a tv series. Initially, you might not notice any degradation in the quality of the experience because it is so close to the source material. But over time, budget constraints start to bite, and the writers get tired and bored, and as time goes on and the original source material gets further away, the experience becomes cheesy, formulaic, and self-indulgent.

For me, we are now in the cheesy soap opera stage where everything is contrived and twisted with only echoes of the original source, and no effort on the part of the writers.

Now, I have always had a meta view of the world, where I was as fascinated with my own reaction to it as much as the experience itself.

But now there is no fascination any more (well, maybe a little residual intrigue about some aspects of Physics)…

Back to the school analogy: it’s as if the teachers have stopped trying to teach, and are now using the time to indulge their own fetishes and present the kids with a continuous stream of porn-slasher video nasties!

I’m not saying that I’ve learned enough. I’m calling out the quality and content of the lessons, and saying that they are not even lessons any more.

Incidentally, my core belief is that while we are trapped in this environment, it is ourselves that do the trapping - each time deciding to come back for another ride.

”Again!!! Again!!!”

In my case, the decision has been made at the core of my existence that it is time to move on. I’m not asking the teachers permission to move up to another grade. I’m just not interested in the school or its teachers.

Funnily enough, having made that decision, it has become almost comical watching the world’s contrivances and machinations through a detached lens.