Session 21 September 2024

[meadow_wind]

is anyone addicted to eggplant

Eggplant has only trace amounts of Nicotine, so as iamthatis said, you can't compare. Dr. Ardis failed to explain this in his interview.

I think it is the chemicals added to most cigarettes that cause physical addiction,

It's Pyrazines. According to the interview, there are 15 types of Pyrazines added to commercial tobacco to make it addictive.
Maybe nicotine is addictive to people who have a certain profile, as the C's said. I personally don't find any addiction to it, but I haven't smoked that long either.

 

[Debra]

Thanks to everyone for the session. A couple of months ago, I had two teeth extracted within a month of each other. And both times the dentist warned me not to smoke for at least an hour or two after the tooth extraction. Of course, I did not listen to her, thinking that she does not know the benefits of tobacco.

Hvala svima na sesiji. Prije par mjeseci izvađena su mi dva zuba u razmaku od mjesec dana. I oba puta zubarica me upozorila da ne pušim duhan barem sat ili dva nakon vađenja zuba. Naravno, nisam je poslušao smatrajući da ona ne zna dobrobiti duhana.

If I may, I’d like to point out a very VALID important reason why your dentist warned you not to smoke for at least an hour after an extraction.
Dentists usually warn against drinking through straws, or sucking on anything like hard candies for several days, but especially that first hour.
Here’s the reason:
Extractions are very traumatic for our jaw bone and gums.
After an extraction, if the blood clot that forms in the wound is dislodged, swallowed, or spat out essentially the scaffolding(that’s what the blood clot is) for new gum tissue is removed.
The damaged bone becomes exposed.
If the bleeding has stopped, it does reform, and the poor bone and damaged tissue are exposed.
Referred to as “a dry socket” it CAN lead to incredible difficulty’s.
So, for what it worth, that’s the “why” for the warning, from what I’ve learned.

 

[loreta]

I think it is the chemicals added to most cigarettes that cause physical addiction, while pure tobacco does not. The habit of smoking could potentially be addiction-like too, kind of like a program. That is if smoking is used to check out and dissociate from reality.

I agree that smoking is a sort of ritual, but I do not understand when you say that smoking can dissociate from reality. What do you mean by that? Just curious.

The PTB always make us believe that nicotine is a sort of drug, a hard drug, and that's why they lie saying it is addictive. Implying that smokers are drug-addicts. I do not think nicotine is addictive. And we know that nicotine is good for us. During the Covid they put laws that it was prohibited to smoke even at the café terraces and even on the streets!

 

[axj]

I agree that smoking is a sort of ritual, but I do not understand when you say that smoking can dissociate from reality. What do you mean by that? Just curious.

It is not about smoking as such - anything (especially habits) can be used to dissociate. Habitual patterns are what we do automatically, instead of being consciously aware and present. Anything done automatically or "asleep" is a way of dissociating from reality.

Part of the Work is becoming aware of all the automatic programs and habits and choose to stay consciously present in the here and now instead as much as possible.

 

[Paweł]

Thanks to the whole team for this session!

(L) (...) What does the pineal gland produce, growth hormone?

(Gaby) Melatonin.

The pineal gland also produces dimethyltryptamine, a substance which, when taken exogenously, produces a short but very intense psychedelic effect. Dr Rick Strassman conducted research on it, which he published in the book “DMT: The Spirit Molecule”.

(L) (...) I'm not even sure that I have ever seen any evidence whatsoever that the pineal gland is full of crystals. I mean, has anybody ever seen any such evidence?

I don't know if it's relevant but (from ChatGPT):

"Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is a chemical compound with an organic structure that, in its pure form, appears as a white or transparent crystalline powder. Therefore, DMT can take on a crystalline form, but it is a chemical substance, not a mineral."

 

[happyliza]

Sorry. I didn’t mean it as telling you what to do or something like that. It was just meant as an idea of why we might strive to do what we can to survive.

FWIW, I completely understand your point of view.

There are threads on here about canning, preserving and ensuring we have enough of different things. I think it is acting responsibly. Especially as this allow us to help people in urgent needs, and not just knowledge - which does come in handy in a survival mode but doesnt feed or clothe people, or help with urgent medicines or healing

 

[happyliza]

I dunno, I'd hesitate to give a child nicotine without doing more research - which would be hard to find, as I'm guessing there isn't much objective data on child smoking or child use of nicotine.

As far as I know, nicotine is addictive, and giving it to a kid or a baby may mess with their psychological and neurological development. I think one could protect them in other ways, such as good nutrition, passing along knowledge, supplements, exercise, etc. Then let them choose nicotine if they want later in life. Or give them a pack of nice smokes for their 13th birthday or something.

I wouldn't use the DMSO method you mentioned above as the DMSO will also probably pull the waterproof medical tape chemicals into the body, and across the blood brain barrier. Best to use DMSO on the skin and not cover it with anything you don't want in your body until it's dry.

Dr K thoroughly recommends the nicotine patches for majority of his patients and children. Start by the 7mg patches and cut them into 4 pieces taping them on to the body. And slowly work up the mg to the 21mg.

It especially helps with acute nerve damage and brain fog, and many other things.
For children with ADHD and autistic children it is ideal as they are renowned for not been able to take medicines. All that is needed is a low dose 1/4 patch to begin with. Place it between the should blades for children. The ADHD really quietens down quite fast using this method.

Also for those with respiratory problems or past lung problems gt the specially pure HOCL (which can be put direct on eyes, throat, nose etc). Put this in a nebuliser. It not only clears the itchiness but also heals the lung scarring. But from Ki Science.
Also useful, is the propolis machine and capsules (prepares at the essential temperatures for us). this is also for anti bacterial/viral purposes and it can also be used for cleansing room pathogens.

It is 100% safe to use the patches on children. And adults. They can itch a bit - as they do me. But worth it for a peaceful life lol

 

[ryu]

Just something that occurred while re-reading the session but has been kind of brewing into my mind for a while - but to me everything is kinda ridiculous.

The food you eat? Toxic! The products you use? Toxic! Beauty products to make you feel pretty or just have fun with your look (women will know what I mean)? Toxic! The air you breath? Toxic! And now your dentist? Toxic too! Get your root canal without anaesthesia, babe.

When you add up everything, it's like we're supposed to live off the grid in a wood somewhere, grow our own food and just be one with nature or something, and the thing is not everybody can or want to do that. Honestly, thank you but no thank you. I'm not Tarzan.

Also, because of the nature of how life works, life wants to go on, which means that there are hormonal, biological and societal (aka peer pressure/ tradition) mechanism which effectively ensures that life keeps on going through people reproducing. People will give a lot of grand reasons as to why they had kids, but in the grand scheme of things, it generally comes down to the 3 things aforementioned plus perhaps past life karma. But reproducing for what, when the world you live in wants to snuff you out? There's a paradox there imo. And a dumb one at that.

Life wants to thrive, but the world you live wants to kill you. And I've said this in other posts elsewhere, but these days tons of kids are born with autism of varying level. Yes, there's vaccines and all that, but I also think that our body are so overloaded with toxins from so many different areas that our genes are damaged and we're producing damaged version of ourselves. Humanity is a dying race in a dying world. So, it's not only that world wants to damage you, it also wants to damage your line (which is always kinda weird too me because if you're creating whole generation who'll never be able to live independently due to mental disorders and perhaps other complex health issues, you're essentially removing workers from the workforce while creating people who'll need care for life. On the flip side, you're creating a lot of suffering for their parents/ family and society at large).

It's not even that I think that everything is futile. It just feels very dumb to me. Like ok, the entire world is toxic and everything is designed to cause harm and pain, but because my soul chose to incarnate (you know growth, learning and all that jazz) I somehow got to live in this toxic world till the Universe finally takes pity on all us and free us from our misery by making us die from a plague, civil wars, hunger or major cataclysms. Does it not feel like a stupid joke to anyone else?

Well I do feel the same way sometimes, I am sad to see what an hell this world has turned into, when it could have been a really good place. I'm not cut out to live off the grid and I doubt there are enough ressources left to do that. Like you said, many things are polluted, rivers and lakes are depleted from fish, there isn't enough wild animals left to feed a large population.. And climate change has really started. So yeah I get the feeling of futility. I think what's important are simple things, like staying a decent human in the face of all this horror. Yes the human race may die out but this kind of things are out of our control.

I'd like to have an easier life, live in a more peaceful world, however, am glad I got to live this life. I understood and healed a lot of things, I've still got my a lot to work with, but I'm grateful of the opportunities I had. I'd like to do more, I don't know if I'll get to live old, but I don't regret this life.

Something will eventually kill you. Old age, a comet, a virus, toxins, but you get to decide what you're going to do with the time you have and that's what's most important.

My two cents.

 

[iamthatis]

Dr K thoroughly recommends the nicotine patches for majority of his patients and children. Start by the 7mg patches and cut them into 4 pieces taping them on to the body. And slowly work up the mg to the 21mg.

It especially helps with acute nerve damage and brain fog, and many other things.
For children with ADHD and autistic children it is ideal as they are renowned for not been able to take medicines. All that is needed is a low dose 1/4 patch to begin with. Place it between the should blades for children. The ADHD really quietens down quite fast using this method.

Also for those with respiratory problems or past lung problems gt the specially pure HOCL (which can be put direct on eyes, throat, nose etc). Put this in a nebuliser. It not only clears the itchiness but also heals the lung scarring. But from Ki Science.
Also useful, is the propolis machine and capsules (prepares at the essential temperatures for us). this is also for anti bacterial/viral purposes and it can also be used for cleansing room pathogens.

It is 100% safe to use the patches on children. And adults. They can itch a bit - as they do me. But worth it for a peaceful life lol

The first article I posted suggests that nicotine toxicity in children is reached at about 10 mg (1 mg/kg). Toxicity in adults is reached at about 40 - 60 mg (0.8 - 1 mg/kg).

I was using 21 mg patches for a while and eventually I became incredibly dizzy due to nicotine toxicity and ended up in the emergency room. If Dr. Klinghardt is advocating for working up to 21 mg patches for children, that sounds dangerous. There needs to be a caveat that will be different for everyone, and it is not 100% safe.

 

[Aiming]

If Dr. Klinghardt is advocating for working up to 21 mg patches for children, that sounds dangerous. There needs to be a caveat that will be different for everyone, and it is not 100% safe.

For clarification, Dr. K's application of nicotine patches for children is in the context of treatment of chronic disease, like autism, ADHD and Long Covid. He's not advocating it for children in general and only in the context of specific treatment for medical pratitioners, who're treating patients with specific debilitating symptoms.

 

[Fluffy]

I base my comments on years of smoking a lot of organic tobacco, then reducing the amount significantly. Let's just say that the effect on me was quite unpleasant. I think it's addictive, though not in the way the medical establishment suggests - after all, it changes the brain chemistry. If anyone here who smokes wants to test the hypothesis, trying stopping for a while and see what happens. It's probably different for everyone.

But yeah, based on personal experience and these articles, I'm willing to claim that I think nicotine is addictive.

I’ve quit on two seperate occasions in the past few years, for 9 weeks (worst 9 weeks of my life) in 2021 and for about 5 weeks in 2023 (this one doesn’t count, I was quitting because I was pregnant, it was my partner who bought me a pack because he wasn’t coping with me not smoking and being an angry b**ch, he was even considering counselling to get some tools to deal with me better, so this is on him, I was willing to not smoke for the remainder of the pregnancy no matter how much I hated it, but as soon as they were in front of me I couldn’t help myself) .
For me smoking is addictive, it’s more than the habit because I’m somewhat relieved by patches, which I’d place over the veins in my wrist hoping that it would enter my bloodstream more effectively.

The 9 week quit was about the fact that I was addicted and me wanting to try some conscious suffering and overcoming my crutch. I was exercising like a pro athlete at this time and the first and most noticeable thing was lack of energy when doing explosive and heavy movement. I was wearing patches but they only really calmed down the jitteriness and want ro yell at everything about how much life sucked. I spent the whole 9 weeks complaining and feeling like I’d lost my way. After about 3 weeks I stopped using the patches, I had weaned down by cutting them into strips. This is when things got really hard. I had no zest at all, I thought about smokes nonstop, I found myself standing next to strangers who were smoking, way too close for their comfort, I’d even ask them to blow it at me so I could sniff it in. I was dragging myself around in a contstant semi depressed state (I usually fluctuate, the constant ness of it was hard to bear with no end in sight)

One glorious Friday morning I decided I had had enough of this suffering and that I had learned nothing except that nicotine and me have an unbreakable bond and I didn’t have time in my life to torture myself in such a way. I could see that this empty loneliness I felt without smoking would continue indefinitely and I was not prepared to learn to live like that.
So I rolled one from of my eldest kids’ pouch, sat down on the back step and lit up. Myyy gawwwwd! I sank into that step like I was melting, the most honest and revealing grin on my face, every cell in my body sighed with relief and at that moment heaven on earth was mine, I’m not exaggerating, it was a truly blissful experience that I cannot compare anything else too. I think back at it as one of my most fond memories. The torment was over, but it did take about a week to readjust, I had some headaches and stomach sickness but I was surely going too fast and hard.

I smoke organic brand called manitou using raw hemp papers and no filter, just a little bit of cardboard tip, a roach the cool kids call it, so my smokes are strong and delicious, my lungs don’t love it but I’ve learned how to cough to clear them out on a daily basis.

I’m addicted, for me smokes/nicotine are replacing something I don’t naturally have and I need it to feel normal. I’m going to have a stab and guess it has something to do with micro biome, immune response and the gut brain axis, smoking makes me feel good, calm, in control. I don’t think it helps me learn per se, but the ‘time out’ is equated to thinking time sometimes, but I generally use it to check out and for comfort and moral support, so probably a little bit of dissociation in there, but I also like to check out and day dream when I’m walking so or riding in the car as a passenger or just lay in bed with empty worthless ruminating thoughts.

Sometimes, this is weird, I forget I smoke and I know something is missing and I can’t put my finger on it. I wander around cleaning up and doing little jobs in the strange space I’m in then it will click and I remember ‘I smoke’. Those are the best smokes. It’s only happened may be 15 times in my 30 year smoking career, the joy of smoking hopefully will never leave me.

 

[SlipNet]

One glorious Friday morning I decided I had had enough of this suffering and that I had learned nothing except that nicotine and me have an unbreakable bond and I didn’t have time in my life to torture myself in such a way. I could see that this empty loneliness I felt without smoking would continue indefinitely and I was not prepared to learn to live like that.
So I rolled one from of my eldest kids’ pouch, sat down on the back step and lit up. Myyy gawwwwd! I sank into that step like I was melting, the most honest and revealing grin on my face, every cell in my body sighed with relief and at that moment heaven on earth was mine, I’m not exaggerating, it was a truly blissful experience that I cannot compare anything else too. I think back at it as one of my most fond memories.

Brilliantly put! Back in 2014 I was in debt to my bank, and was living on £20 a week, as most of my cash was paying off credit card debts. I went 2 days without smoking 'cos I was skint, and the feeling of exhilaration when I got to purchase a fresh pouch of tobacco was amazing. I was buzzing before I even got round to rolling one up. And when I did? Whoooooo! I know I'm addicted, and I don't care a jot. I can scarcely recall how I got by before smoking. It's like I'm only truly myself when I'm in that zone, and that zone always includes a ciggie. They were really tough years to go through back then, thankfully things are much better now. But I can totally empathise with tobacco withdrawals and the bliss of rediscovery. 2 days is basically the longest I've gone without smoking since 1998, and these days my longest time without them is my sleeping hours. That first cig in the morning with a black coffee? Essential!

 

[Bernardo GA]

A: Not now! You have enough for now. Explosive revelations and events coming! Goodby

How soon the new inquest can commence is an open question at the moment but Matt Campbell is hopeful the new hearing can proceed before the end of this year. This would certainly fit the C's timeframe. Who knows, such a finding might even start a breadcrumb trail that leads all the way back to Mossad.

Yes. That's what I was thinking.
I remember in one session, when the C's were asked if Russia had revealing information about the Twin Towers bombing, hard information about the facts and the real perpetrators, C replied “YES”, but that those revelations would be made later, when people were ready, at the right time or something like that.

This is how I remember it.
I have searched for the session to make sure about it, and to quote the corresponding fragment, but I lack experience and did not succeed.

But if in essence what I remember is correct, then I am thinking that we are at a time when the whole World is witnessing the beastly behavior of the government of Israel, the subordination of the United States (a divided empire), which is a sort of muscle of England, hired killers in the White House, killing people left and right without any remorse, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.
I think the American people as well as the people of the world in general, are more than ready to find out who the killers were on 9/11.

Furthermore, it seems to me that the delicate geopolitical situation at this time, merits that international organizations are obliged to collaborate to stop the Beast.

To that end, it is possible that Russia may bring its evidence to light at any moment.
We will have to wait and see




Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

[mantle]

You can smoke in front of your kid, no problem.
There is a tradition in Portugal where one day children smoke cigarettes.

This town encourages kids to smoke during Christian holiday

VALE DE SALGUEIRO, Portugal — The Epiphany celebrations in the Portuguese village of Vale de Salgueiro feature a tradition that each year causes an outcry among outsiders: Parents encouraging their…

nypost.com

SALGUEIRO, Portugal — The Epiphany celebrations in the Portuguese village of Vale de Salgueiro feature a tradition that each year causes an outcry among outsiders: Parents encouraging their children, some as young as 5, to smoke cigarettes.

Locals say the practice has been passed down for centuries as part of a celebration of life tied to the Christian Epiphany and the winter solstice — but nobody is sure what it symbolizes or exactly why parents buy the packs of cigarettes for their children and encourage them to take part.

The two-day celebrations, which start Friday and end Saturday with a Mass, include dancing around bonfires, a piper playing music and an elected “king” who distributes plentiful wine and snacks.

The legal age to purchase tobacco in Portugal is 18, but nothing prohibits parents from giving kids cigarettes and Portuguese authorities don’t intervene to stop the practice.

Guilhermina Mateus, a 35-year-old coffee shop owner, cites custom as the reason why she gives her daughter cigarettes.


“I can’t explain why. I don’t see any harm in that because they don’t really smoke, they inhale and immediately exhale, of course,” Mateus said Saturday. “And it’s only on these days, today and tomorrow. They never ask for cigarettes again.”

Jose Ribeirinha, a writer who has published a book on the Vale do Salgueiro festivities, said the roots of the tradition are unknown but may have to do with celebrating the rebirth of nature and human life.

He said the village is in a region that adheres to many traditions dating back to pagan times and that since Roman times, during the winter solstice period villagers here have taken the liberty to do things that would be out of the norm in the rest of the year.


Ribeirinha also believes the relative seclusion of the remote village — 280 miles northeast of the capital Lisbon — has helped keep the tradition alive. He said that the surrounding Tras os Montes region “has always been the furthest from Lisbon, the most ‘forgotten one.’”
Portugal, like many other European countries, has taken steps to reduce smoking, including a partial ban on smoking indoors
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And here some cute pictures.

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There is nothing cute about it. What they smoke is tampered with thousands of additives. We live in a world in which confidence disappears as soon as it arrives.

 

[Breo]

On the function of acetylcholine, the anti-inflammatory cholinergic pathway, shaping the connection to the vagus nerve and Eiriu-Eolas:

XPan said: Are the nicotinic acetylcholine receptors present on all cells ?! Or just certain brain cells ?

The former.

anartist said:
Some cells of the body have what are known as cholinergic synapses. These synapses convert an electrical signal into acetylcholine, which then interacts with acetylcholine receptors on the other side of the synapse to trigger another electrical signal.

Receptors for acetylcholine, also known as cholinergic receptors, fall into two categories based on the chemicals that mimic or antagonize the action of acetylcholine on its many target cell types. In classical studies, nicotine, isolated from tobacco, was one of the chemicals used to distinguish acetylcholine receptors. That is, the body contains nicotinic receptors for acetylcholine. People who smoke may have a slight deterioration of cognitive abilities if they stop smoking. This worsening is due because nicotine acts as an agonist to mimic acetylcholine receptors, which is important for learning, memory and cognitive functions. Daily infusions of nicotine can increase the number of acetylcholine receptors by 40%.

The production of cytokines (inflammatory molecules), as well as tumor necrosis factor (TNF) and interleukin-6 (IL-6), are necessary to protect us against pathogens and promotes tissue repair, but excessive cytokine release can result in systemic inflammation, organ failure and ultimately death. Autonomic regulation of local and systemic inflammation, i.e., the molecular link between the brain and the immune system, is mediated through the anti-inflammatory cholinergic pathway. This is a mechanism shaped by the vagus nerve and its neurotransmitter acetylcholine, a process that depends on the alpha 7 subunit of the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor.

Acetylcholine has a direct inhibitory effect on the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines, thus avoiding the harmful effects of excess production of the latter. Nicotine, the prototypical nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, attenuates the release of cytokines such as TNF. Stimulation of the vagus nerve decreases inflammation without unwanted side effects on organ functions such as respiratory, heart rate and intestinal motility.

Nicotine agonists have also been used to prevent renal dysfunction as a result of ischemia reperfusion. In addition, nicotine therapy improves renal function. Nicotinic receptors in the central nervous system are associated with neuronal plasticity and cell survival. Nicotine has been used to treat ulcerative colitis, a disease characterized by inflammation of the large intestine. Nicotine also has a protective effect against sepsis, improving survival in cases of endotoxemia, caused by infection in the blood.

The cholinergic anti-inflammatory pathway involves the vagus nerve, and it reduces circulating levels of the cytokines, TNF (tumor necrosis factor) and IL-6 (interleukin-6) in rats subjected to hemorrhagic shock. Activation of the vagus nerve afferent (running from the body to the brain) also reduces intestinal permeability and serum pro-inflammatory cytokine levels by a vagus nerve-dependent mechanism.

More information here:

Vagus Nerve Controls Intestinal Inflammation

Macrophages release inflammatory signals (TNF, IL-1, IL-6, IL-18) that result in tissue inflammation. Nicotine is anti-inflammatory by acting on the acetylcholine receptors normally responsive to acetylcholine released by the vagus nerve....

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How the vagus nerve operates in the immune system inhibiting inflammation and stress

In the brilliant scientific paper, 'The pulse of inflammation: heart rate variability, the cholinergic anti-inflammatory pathway and implications for therapy,' Dr. Jared M. Huston, Department of Surgery, Stony Brook University Medical Center...

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Vagus Nerve: Neurotransmitter-Regulated Immunity

Neurotransmitters may play a bigger role in immunity than scientists had realized. In two papers published today (September 15) in Science Express, immunologists identify neurotransmitters as key players in two previously mystery-shrouded defense...

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Éiriú Eolas: Expansión del conocimiento

Éiriú Eolas (EE) incluye ejercicios de respiración que estimulan el nervio vago para controlar el estrés, así como técnicas de liberación emocional practicadas en el pasado por Carl Jung y Alexander Lowen. EE ayuda a aliviar el estrés, lo cual...

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