Session 21 September 2024

Charlie said:
I’ve always tried to wrap my head around how this works. The C’s have said that time is an illusion and that 4DSTS are able to manipulate both the future and past. There has to be some kind of cosmic limitation to this though. Otherwise 4DSTS could wipe out entire bloodlines so any future threat would never even be born. On the other hand, maybe they have done just that. And this timeline is still their best course. See the current state of the world.

Couple this with free will and our futures are open. Maybe. Maybe the timeline has been tweaked so much, that even though we have free will, 4DSTS knows exactly how the our future plays out. Kind of like a computer simulation where you keep tweaking the program to get the desired end result.

The monkey wrench in this is 4DSTO. The C’s have said that severe weather is an indication of 4D battles between STO/STS. If 4DSTO wants free will and 4DSTS wants complete control, maybe the battles are over keeping certain futures and possible timelines open. 4DSTO aren’t going to push anybody in a certain direction but they want to (for lack of a better term) “keep hope alive”. Even if the chance is miniscule, people can still make available choices to get themselves out of this mess. Maybe 4DSTO are the ones keeping the door open for us, but we are the ones that have to make the choices that allow us to step through.

Anyway, just some ramblings from me.
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Your considerations make sense. And since everything, and mainly time, is so "open", we end up by sticking to that which is one of the very few 'tangible' things we have in our hands: our consciousness, which though illusory as we know, is the tool we have available for making choices among these so many quantum possibilities.
 
I'll just do a quick jump in for personal timelines, this isn't really coming from the Cs. But more on what I have came across and learnt along the way.

We are jumping timelines all the time, every choice we make, the other choice or choice's play out on a different timeline. For e.g. you decided to buy this item instead of the other item. Your soul will play this out on a different timeline, but its really nothing that major. But if you choose to have a pet or a child. The other choice will play out on a different choice.

It does get very complicated and confusing, as we can only see our current present timeline, but as other have said. At one point all timelines will have to end, it might be in a result of a global ending event on that timeline. But your current timeline is still very fluid and you still have the option to choose. I guess in 4D you can see the other choice play out as 4D isn't limited to linear single timelines.
 
Wandering Star said:
Session 1 December 1994

Q: (L) What is the probability that S__ will pay me what he owes me? There is a lot of money.

A: It depends on the course of events.

Q: (L) And what are the possible courses?

A: 956000 possibilities.

Session 4 March 1995

Q: (F) Does that satisfactorily answer the question? It's like saying, "Oh, what an interesting store, what's in there?" (L) Well, if none of the numbers that science has come up with are correct, what is the correct definition of the age of the universe?

A: Quasi-quantum possibilities.

Session 17 June 1995

A: Yes, that's true, however, we have already told you in previous sessions, in detail, the methodology that is used for what you call "abduction." And, if you are familiar with the transcripts you have created now, you know exactly how this is done. Your description of it is not completely correct as referenced in the hypnosis session you speak of, or at least your interpretation of the information given during the hypnosis session is not correct.

Now, it should be noted here that when we make clarifying statements such as “this is not correct” or “that is not correct,” it is unusual for us to do so because the nature of your state of being and everyone else’s involves various degrees of illusion. . bound. Therefore, any and all Possibilities. In most cases, there are cases of misalignment of the links of illusion. However, when two or more of these links of illusion are misaligned, then, in fact, it is possible for there to be absolute correctness or absolute incorrectness. In this case, there is a misalignment of the links. Therefore, it is, in fact, completely incorrect.

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I could go on, but if you search the transcripts using the keyword possibilities, you'll have some time to read.
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This session from June 17, 1995, looks promising. I'll have a look at it. Thanks!
 
benklerk said:
I'll just do a quick jump in for personal timelines, this isn't really coming from the Cs. But more on what I have came across and learnt along the way.

We are jumping timelines all the time, every choice we make, the other choice or choice's play out on a different timeline. For e.g. you decided to buy this item instead of the other item. Your soul will play this out on a different timeline, but its really nothing that major. But if you choose to have a pet or a child. The other choice will play out on a different choice.

It does get very complicated and confusing, as we can only see our current present timeline, but as other have said. At one point all timelines will have to end, it might be in a result of a global ending event on that timeline. But your current timeline is still very fluid and you still have the option to choose. I guess in 4D you can see the other choice play out as 4D isn't limited to linear single timelines.
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Interesting thought!
 
Wandering Star said:
I could go on, but if you search the transcripts using the keyword possibilities, you'll have some time to read.
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We talked about choices where there are only two possible outcomes:

Wandering Star said:
Well, if a decision comes, such as having a child or having an abortion, in your personal life there would be two lines of experiences that will dictate your lessons on a personal level very clearly.
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And I still don't know what you meant by "two lines of experiences that will dictate your lessons on a personal level very clearly", since you will experience only one of the two possible outcomes.
 
axj said:
We talked about choices where there are only two possible outcomes:


And I still don't know what you meant by "two lines of experiences that will dictate your lessons on a personal level very clearly", since you will experience only one of the two possible outcomes.
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You'll have to figure it out yourself, because I'm clearly not capable of explaining it to you.

My understanding and yours are not collinear.

Which doesn't mean you're wrong of course, but paraphrasing the C's answer I gave you, my link of illusion and yours are not aligned.
 
axj said:
We talked about choices where there are only two possible outcomes:


And I still don't know what you meant by "two lines of experiences that will dictate your lessons on a personal level very clearly", since you will experience only one of the two possible outcomes.
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One last try, you can search for the word "deja vu" in the transcripts.
 
Wandering Star said:
One last try, you can search for the word "deja vu" in the transcripts.
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The C's say that deja vu can be a sign that the timeline we are on has been changed by 4D STS. Does that mean that we "retroactively" experienced a different timeline than before? Maybe. Is that what you were getting at?

Wandering Star said:
My understanding and yours are not collinear.

Which doesn't mean you're wrong of course, but paraphrasing the C's answer I gave you, my link of illusion and yours are not aligned.
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Why use such dramatic language over a simple question and possible disagreement?
 
Wandering Star said:
If you search the transcripts with the keyword "deja vu", there is more to it than what you say.
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I think you are being cryptic on purpose to then claim having a disagreement, which you then dramatically proclaim as being evidence of not being colinear. Sorry for being blunt, but I am tired of whatever game you are playing here.
 
axj said:
We talked about choices where there are only two possible outcomes:


And I still don't know what you meant by "two lines of experiences that will dictate your lessons on a personal level very clearly", since you will experience only one of the two possible outcomes.
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I’d need to do some serious digging (or wait for one of our friends with encyclopedic knowledge), but I seem to recall that when you make a choice, there splits off a new timeline (of which there are infinite numbers) and both versions of the future continue in separate universes. I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure it’s in the transcripts somewhere.
 
Evan said:
I’d need to do some serious digging (or wait for one of our friends with encyclopedic knowledge), but I seem to recall that when you make a choice, there splits off a new timeline (of which there are infinite numbers) and both versions of the future continue in separate universes. I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure it’s in the transcripts somewhere.
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Sesión 4 de enero de 1997

Q: (L) So, the universe you are in, is what it is, and you are in it for some reason... (T) You're in it to learn lessons... just to change the universe because you don't want to learn the lessons you've chosen to learn... (L) Or, you have learned them and thereby CAN change the universe... (T) When you learn, you just move on automatically, you don't have to change the universe. The universe will change for you.

A: Deja vu comes to you compliments of 4th density STS.

Q: (L) Is deja vu a result of some sensation of the universe having changed?

A: Or... some sensation of reality bridging.

Q: (T) As you move into the new one, you have leftovers?

A: No.

Q: (L) What is reality bridging?

A: What does it sound like?

Q: (L) Is it somewhat like merging universes? (T) A bridge is something you put between two things...

A: You wish to limit, wait till 4th density, when the word will be obsolete!

Q: (L) That still doesn't help me to understand deja vu as a "sensation of reality bridging." Is deja vu because something comes into our reality from another?

A: One possibility..

Q: (T) Didn't we talk about this? That it is a bleedthrough from other dimensions... that when we think we have been someplace before, it is because in another dimension we have...

A: Yes.

Q: (L) If you are now in a particular universe that has been created and merged by 4th density STS, and there is still the old universe existing, and you feel a connection, or a bridging, because some alternate self is in that alternate universe, living through some experience... or a similar thing?

A: No limits of possibilities.

Q: (L) So it can be any and all of those things, and bridging realities of "past" and "future," as well. Is it possible to change the past within a discrete universe, or does every change imply a new or alternate universe?

A: Discrete does not get it.
 
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