Session 22 July 2012

[anart]

Well, I had no idea what 'Banco Sabadell' was - so I was just focusing on the act itself with no idea that it was bank advertising.

 

[Laura]

Well, I had no idea what 'Banco Sabadell' was - so I was just focusing on the act itself with no idea that it was bank advertising.

I noticed it was a bank advert too, and definitely not a spontaneous "flash mob" thing. But still, I liked the music and the cute way it was assembled bit by bit.

 

[ana]

Well, I had no idea what 'Banco Sabadell' was - so I was just focusing on the act itself with no idea that it was bank advertising.

I noticed it was a bank advert too, and definitely not a spontaneous "flash mob" thing. But still, I liked the music and the cute way it was assembled bit by bit.

I was aware of it too but have also enjoyed the video understanding the message Christian was trying to convey.

 

[loreta]

Well, I had no idea what 'Banco Sabadell' was - so I was just focusing on the act itself with no idea that it was bank advertising.

I noticed it was a bank advert too, and definitely not a spontaneous "flash mob" thing. But still, I liked the music and the cute way it was assembled bit by bit.

Oh, it is a perfect performance, banks have mucho money. It is a well done spectacle. But I was unable to participated. Nowadays, I can understand the emotion that this music gives. The music is beautiful and the musicians are good. The babies too. :)

 

[Ca.]

I don't want to head down the wrong direction, so I'd appreciate any/all thoughts. Am I going overboard, is it too much/too soon, too anticipatory?

The always C's have always reiterated to follow your instinctual, and gut feelings. The time's that i have not, and did opposite of those eternal feelings only lead to misery.

i think your on the right path, in your thoughts of preparation, which includes helping those that will not understand or see what is approaching.

Fwiw. :)

 

[Carl]

Though when you understand the gravity of our situation, being young is not an excuse to hide behind anymore.

I don't see Muxel hiding behind his age, in the context of his response to Mac:

I see that your 20, maybe a bit of projecting on your part, but I could be wrong.

I apologise for being unclear, I did not mean to say that Muxel is hiding behind his age, just that we should not let our age in this life define or limit us. It is just another factor to overcome. I don't think I was specifically projecting onto Muxel, but I was considering my own situation when I wrote the above, so maybe you are right.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as the saying goes, I don't understand why people got all teary eyed, my response to the video was, "okay" It did not move me at all, but that may be due to many things.

This is true, I find orchestras to be a particularly fine example of beauty. A large group of people coming together and synchronising their actions to create music seems to me a metaphor for what STO life would be like.

When one factors the context of this place and the truth of that statement, glimpses of what could be are essential so as to give our struggle some meaning, but I don't trust images and my response to them anymore, I only trust actions. Joy, love, trust, etc, they are phantoms to me. Serenity is what I seek, I don't care for joy, I only care to know, learn and understand. I still listen to music though, but just as background noise when I am using the computer which is close to the living room and the t.v. It is merely a tactic so that this mind can function better in the midst of all this.

I know that I am just as mechanical and the state I have found as most useful to constantly struggle against this, is not joy, but serenity, so I cultivate that above any other state of mind. With serenity, I can be and observe without expecting anything from anyone or anything, but with such states as joyous rapture the little I have encountered of it that is, my judgement is numbed, I am at peace and do not seek anything, it is not useful for me in my aim and so I do not cultivate it.

From what I gather you seem to see positive dissociation as a waste of energy and would rather focus on the real and practical for reaching our goals. I am curious as to whether it has always been like that for you, or did you lose interest in music etc after beginning the Work? Personally I have always liked to listen to music for 'inspiration', even after I understood that the effect it has is only temporary and due to brain chemicals. Each of us is different I guess

 

[Eboard10]

I did not want to give my point of vue about this video because I respect the emotions that it gave it. But like Basque Seeker I just saw the advertising of Banco Sabadell. And living in Spain we know how "gentle" the banks are here and how "gentle" they are with all Spaniards. ;)That's why I did not like this video. But please, don't miss interpret me: music unite people from over the world. Music has no frontiers, musicians are magicians. Too bad that our politicians are not musicians.

Instead of listening the advertising of BAnco Sabadell today I listened the wind, another musician.

And let's not forget that the piece being played by the orchestra is part of Beethoven's 9th Symphony which is the EU's National Anthem.

The video itself though gives a sense of peace and harmony.

 

[Laura]

And let's not forget that the piece being played by the orchestra is part of Beethoven's 9th Symphony which is the EU's National Anthem.

Ludwig is probably spinning in his grave...

 

[Ekios]

And let's not forget that the piece being played by the orchestra is part of Beethoven's 9th Symphony which is the EU's National Anthem.

Ludwig is probably spinning in his grave...

"Laughing Out Loud"

 

[Bo]

So in light of this, would it make sense to create a thread/forum section for some useful disaster preparedness info? Like maps of fresh bodies of water around the world, some tips and tricks on starting fires with flints or something, ways to find/collect/kill/skin/cook/store/transport food/water, ways to portably filter things, etc, all under one umbrella somewhere on the forum? I don't want to get stuck in 3rd density "panic mode" at all, but it might be handy to have a collection of useful information that can be printed/used in an emergency.

For example, and I'm just throwing this out there for discussion, what happens if the sun burps and blips out satellites/electricity? Should we all focus on our local area/environment and work on that level only, or does it make sense to make any kind of contingency communication options with other forumites, mods, admins, Chateau crew, etc? The C's mentioned that we will end up communicating with kites somehow, but even something like this may require us to know ahead of time how something like this could potentially work, and just keep it on the back burner.

I don't want to head down the wrong direction, so I'd appreciate any/all thoughts. Am I going overboard, is it too much/too soon, too anticipatory?

I have been feeling the same as you SAO for quite some time. I have been also talking about comets and the climate with my friend, to which he is very open minded. We have already discussed that if a disasatrous event happens in the near future, we should be ready to pull out and help those that we can, assuming we survive that long and still have our physical bodies.

What we had in mind is getting a big bag, like one of those mountain climbers bag. Putting a medical kit, a firestarter, a walkie talkie and other helpfull supplies in it and leave the bag in our closet. For if that day comes, we can pick up the bag, gather our famillies and try to survive and help others as much as possible.

I also like the idea of having a seperated thread where things like these can be discussed as you mentioned above.

 

[dant]

And let's not forget that the piece being played by the orchestra is part of Beethoven's 9th Symphony which is the EU's National Anthem.

Ludwig is probably spinning in his grave...

Ach der lieber! Spinning ist gut! (another perspective!) ;)

 

[Buddy]

thank you Laura :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be

Thank you for that, Christian. I rarely miss an opportunity to experience any beauty and joy wherever it can be found. It's fuel for the spirit, I think. :)

Image attachment:

This little guy reflects the way I experienced and enjoyed it:

 

[paralleloscope]

I understand that, but when I watched it, I was like okay so after this, what are they going to do? back to the same old same old[...]

Yea I know. It's an artificial context but can serve as a trigger for emotional release and deeper memory bank stimulation. I'm thinking that the wide appreciation here of the clip was a sort of sync to the message of the session.

I know that I am just as mechanical and the state I have found as most useful to constantly struggle against this, is not joy, but serenity, so I cultivate that above any other state of mind. With serenity, I can be and observe without expecting anything from anyone or anything, but with such states as joyous rapture the little I have encountered of it that is, my judgement is numbed, I am at peace and do not seek anything, it is not useful for me in my aim and so I do not cultivate it.

I don't think joy is a tool for struggle, well in a sense of balance maybe- appreciation.

Don't you think there is a point to utilizing, experiencing and learning from ones spectrum of (lower) emotional tonality?

Looking at a dictionary; serenity can span from calm to most high or august. Does it work with a presence of 'terror of the situation' and 'death by your side'? Personally I'm not sure that I should be cultivating a specific state, well yeah the magnetic center, but that means working on things 'it' doesn't like, moving out of my comfort zone for shocks (something that I need to turbo step up on). Learning and cleansing the lower centers is turbulent and the upward motion needs friction it seems, can this be done from a state of serenity?

 

[Stellaria_graminea]

Thank you very much. I find it encouraging.

 

[NewOrleans]

Yes, encouraging message, Thank you, Christian for the musical interlude..... And when I hear Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" my soul leaps for joy.