Session 23 April 2022

Bluegazer

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Actually, if you look at the plot, it seems to be a possible retelling of the story of Abraham/Moses, Nefertiti/Sarah and Meritaten/Hagar.

I was thinking more of the stories of Zoroastrianism and its cosmology. Although yes, it may be related to the biblical story of Moses. But then if it is the latter, one would have to mention the ark of the covenant, since both the ark and the grail share the same technological foundations...theoretically.
 

MJF

Dagobah Resident
I was thinking more of the stories of Zoroastrianism and its cosmology. Although yes, it may be related to the biblical story of Moses. But then if it is the latter, one would have to mention the ark of the covenant, since both the ark and the grail share the same technological foundations...theoretically.
Yes, Zoroastrianism does have a very interesting cosmology. Since the story and composition of the Magic Flute is meant to be informed by Mozart's flirtation with Freemasonry, it may incorporate all sorts of references that the Freemasons hold important to their philosophy. Scholars and historians seem unable to pin down who exactly Zoroaster was and when he lived. Zoroaster - Wikipedia. His origins may lie in remote history. However, like Abraham he seems to have experienced a divine vision, which in his case was a shining being rather than a burning bush. From Wikipedia:

"By the age of thirty, he experienced a revelation during a spring festival; on the river bank he saw a shining Being, who revealed himself as Vohu Manah (Good Purpose) and taught him about Ahura Mazda (Wise Lord) and five other radiant figures."

What intrigues me is the other names for the creator deity Ahura Mazda, which are: Oromasdes, Ohrmazd, Ahuramazda, Hourmazd, Hormazd, Hormaz and Hurmuz.

Some of these variants of his name remind me, etymologically speaking, of the name "Ormus", which itself has all sorts of connotations.
 

Natus Videre

Jedi Master
Q: (Ark) Can physics describe densities?
A: Yes
Q: (Ark) How?
A: Algebra.
Q: (Ark) What kind of algebra?
A: Simple.

In The Ra Material, there is an interesting description of fourth density and the fractal nature of the seven densities:
16.50 Questioner: Thank you. Is it possible for you to give a small description of the conditions [in] fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. We ask you to consider as we speak that there are no words for positively describing fourth density. We can only explain what is not and approximate what is. Beyond fourth density our ability grows more limited still until we become without words. That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way. Approximations of positive statements: it is a plane of a type of bipedal vehicle which is much denser and more full of life; it is a plane wherein one is aware of the thoughts of other-selves; it is a plane where one is aware of the vibrations of other-selves; it is a plane of compassion and understanding of the sorrows of third density; it is a plane striving towards wisdom or light; it is a plane wherein individual differences are pronounced although automatically harmonized by group consensus.

16.51 Questioner: Could you define the word density as we have been using it to give us a little greater idea of the concept of this term when used by you?

Ra: I am Ra. The term density is a, what you would call, mathematical one. The closest analogy is that of music, whereby after seven notes on your western type of scale, if you will, the eighth note begins a new octave. Within your great octave of existence which we share with you, there are seven octaves or densities. Within each density there are seven sub-densities. Within each sub-density, seven sub-sub-densities, and so on infinitely.

Hebrew and Sanskrit sound vibrations:
75.26 Questioner: You spoke in a previous session about certain Hebrew and Sanskrit sound vibratory complexes being powerful because they were mathematically related to that which was the creation. Could you expand on this understanding, please, as to how these are linked?

Ra: I am Ra. As we previously stated the linkage is mathematical or that of the ratio. You may consider it musical. There are those whose mind complex activities would attempt to resolve this mathematical ratio but at present the coloration of the intoned vowel is part of the vibration which cannot be accurately measured. However, it is equivalent to types of rotation of your primary material particles.

75.27 Questioner: If these sounds are precisely vibrated then what effect or use would they have with respect to the purposes of the adept?

Ra: I am Ra. You may consider the concept of sympathetic resonance. When certain sounds are correctly vibrated, the creation sings.

75.28 Questioner: Would these sounds, then, be of a musical nature in that there would be a musical arrangement of many different sound vibrations, or would this apply to just one single note? Or which would it apply more to?

Ra: I am Ra. This query is not easily answered. In some cases only the intoned vowel has effect. In other cases, most notably Sanskrit combinations, the selection of harmonic intervals is also of resonant nature.

A musical lattice?
Q: (A) I think it could help me. At that time I found something that was interesting that relates to integers. I found somebody writing a paper on Lorentz transformation that was made of integers; that is like, if space-time was kind of a grid or lattice. And...
A: Indeed it is.

Q: (A) That could help! Okay, so that would add integers. So now, next thing looking for 1969 algebra, I got this paper by Noyes and another guy. This paper tries to explain Quantum mechanics in terms of negative probabilities and so on. It is 80 pages which are very hard to understand and puts me to sleep in particular. I read a page and understand...
A: Push!
Q: (A) This paper has very interesting keywords like time loops and negative probabilities, Von Neumann, and the question is whether it is worthwhile to invest in this matter, or perhaps it is just crap like 99% {of physics papers}?
A: Push!
Q: (A) Now going back to 1969: I got several books on probability theory.
A: Jump start by finding paper on windows.
Q: (L) What kind of windows?
A: Mathematical.

Q: (A) The only windows that come to my mind are windows produced in chaotic phenomena when you do a simple algorithm. You take a number and you do something to this number - very simple - and you get another number. And you do this simple thing to another number. You repeat this operation, okay? You get a lot of numbers; you plot these numbers. And you say "Oh! It's chaotic! It's everywhere! Complete nothing. Chaos. No regularity. Except: here, I get a window. Numbers which I generate by my algorithm are chaotic except they never fall into this window! And here is another window. Why do we have these funny windows?" You can run the computer, simple program, and you create these windows. So that was one window. IS it this kind of window or a different window?
A: Close enough to get you there.
Q: (A) Why are windows important?
A: You will see.

Segment of interest: [4:13 to 16:00]. Whole video recommended if you have time.
Rupert Sheldrake shows how wave-patterns can give rise to forms, and discusses the history of liquid computers.
Q: (L) Alright! I get the point! I was just trying to help. (A) I would like to know if there is a separate field beyond electromagnetism and gravitation, something similar to the Sheldrake concept of a morphological field or morphogenetic field?
A: Yes, and it is very close to that. It is apparent that Sheldrake was "in tune," as are you, Arkadiusz. But you must have faith in your thoughts, as sometimes they are assisted.

Q: (A) When you speak of an upcoming wave, it is a wave of what?
A: Think of it as a wave of reflection from the beginning and end point.
Q: (L) Can you clarify that in more 3rd density terms?
A: No, see what the response is. It is his question, after all!
Q: (A) Is DNA acting as a superconductor?
A: Yes!!!

Faraday waves
If a layer of liquid is placed on top of a vertically oscillating piston, a pattern of standing waves appears which oscillates at half the driving frequency, given certain criteria of instability.[3] This relates to the problem of parametric resonance. The waves can take the form of stripes, close-packed hexagons, or even squares or quasiperiodic patterns. Faraday waves are commonly observed as fine stripes on the surface of wine in a wine glass that is ringing like a bell. Faraday waves also explain the 'fountain' phenomenon on a singing bowl.
Singing bowl

Shapes... Crystals... Hmm... Back to prime numbers!
Surprising hidden order unites prime numbers and crystal-like materials
"There is much more order in prime numbers than ever previously discovered," said Salvatore Torquato, Princeton's Lewis Bernard Professor of Natural Sciences, professor of chemistry and the Princeton Institute for the Science and Technology of Materials. "We showed that the primes behave almost like a crystal or, more precisely, similar to a crystal-like material called a 'quasicrystal.'"
Torquato and his colleagues have found that that, when considered over large swaths of the number line, prime numbers are more ordered than previously believed, falling within the class of patterns known as "hyperuniformity."
Hyperuniform materials have special order at large distances and include crystals, quasicrystals and special disordered systems. Hyperuniformity is found in the arrangement of cone cells in bird eyes, in certain rare meteorites, and in the large-scale structure of the universe.

Prime numbers have been deemed mysterious for more than three millennia. Any claim to have demystified them, as the title of this work boldly declares, will justifiably be met with skepticism. Regardless, deciphering how primes distribute in literal, mathematical terms deepens the mystery when you consider the profoundly beautiful algorithms and rotating symmetry groups that govern where on the number line these atoms of the number universe fall.

We explore these patterns in great depth with a powerful analytical tool: a deterministic algorithm and ever-expanding geometry in the form of a spiral sieve (the 'Prime Spiral Sieve'). It's Archimedean orbits encompass eight arithmetic progressions that double as multiplicative initiators of geometrically expanding period-24 factorization cycles. These deterministic sequences intertwine like an octal helix and ultimately determine the distribution of all prime numbers greater than 5, i.e., starting with 7.

Tune your (DNA) antennas as carefully as you tune your instruments and a new world will reveal itself!
(Galatea) What star or constellation are you closest to right now?
A: We ride the Wave and thus are much "closer" than you can imagine. At the same time, imagination is the most direct way to comprehend that we are only a thought away.
Q: (L) So, you're saying that distance is not a viable concept. Is that what we're getting at here?
A: Yes
Q: (Pierre) Thought transcends distance.
(L) Thought transcends distance, and we are quantumly entangled or something...
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well that's kind of a pun, find out "in deed" - by doing. (R) We are on a very, very interesting path here because we just defined what a density is. It's a frequency resonance envelope. (A) The question is frequency of what?
A: Yes, of those in the orchestra.

Q: (L) So it is by agreement. (A) What is by agreement? (L) To be in the orchestra, frequency resonance envelope. (B) Not only to be, but to play within those parameters. (L) Who gets to pick what gets played?
A: Ah! There's the rub!
Q: (B) That means it's up for grabs. Which is why they're interested in us grounding a certain frequency resonance so STS doesn't.
A: No, you don't get to pick the selection at this level. But you in the future does. The question is: How well do you play, and can you play true if the others don't?
Q: (M) That's the second time they said that. (R) Yeah, okay, so in essence, that means what we are doing now is assembling the orchestra before the concert, and tuning the instruments. (L) Have you ever sat in the concert hall when they were getting ready, warming up? (J) It's chaos. (L) It is. (R) But after awhile it starts getting tuned. But that's what this is all about - the whole Cassiopaean Communication. Were not playing yet. We're just tuning. (L) Yeah. (JN) So if our level of consciousness creates the barriers of where this wave can go and how it behaves, can we ... (R) No, No. No. Excuse me for interrupting. Our level of consciousness doesn't create the barriers, it's only aware of those barriers. It can see, okay, what are the barriers: "oh these are the barriers. I can see, okay. So here's what I get to play." But if your awareness grows, then you get to see an array of barriers. "Okay I want to play with this bigger one. I can play with the smaller ones if I want to, but I have the awareness to see other barriers that are more extensive." (L) I think that the concept that we have a hard time grasping is that - going with the analogy - the musical selection is made, more or less. We at some level - us in the future - have chosen what instrument to play, what part to play. And so, the options that we really have now are: how well we play, how loud we play, how in tune we play with others; can we practice, can we stay in tune, can we do any numbers of these things? And even if we find ourselves sitting next to some jerk who can't carry a tune, and whose instrument is all screwed up, can we still continue to play true? Because even though the rest of the orchestra, being heard from a distance, may sound quite melodic, because we are sitting next to this guy who can't play, it is possible for us to be distracted - pulled off track - and then to distract the guy on the other side of us, leading to general chaos. (R) It's about focus. (L) Yeah. I'm getting tired. (A) I have still a question, because all the discussion around this computer modeling, whether it can be helpful or should be developed, or can lead to something; and all these spirals and barriers; they are all about, it's a standard, there are no events, there are no detectors yet. My idea was that it is the detectors which make events which make the wave collapse. Until now, in all our simulations, there is no collapse and no jumps. And yet we speak about consciousness, while there is this other concept that it is consciousness that makes the wave collapse. Okay. So I see a contradiction and I don't know how to get out of this contradiction. There is no collapse, and yet there was some encouragement that what we have relates to ...
A: The music is on the page long before it is played.
 

c.a.

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Q: (Joe) Does Putin have any kind of significant chronic illness?

A: No. Just stress. He would also benefit from hyperbaric treatments!
President Vladimir Putin was shown the latest mobile medical sports complex which includes OxyHealth hyperbaric chambers.

Jul 13, 2013


Putin is doing fine as the sessions stated. India network goes bonkers with all kinds of weird assumptions.

Paris, France: World Agence France-Presse Updated: June 17, 2022, 7:54 am IST
Baths in blood extracted from the antlers of Siberian deer. Excrements are scooped up by loyal officials to evade analysis. Mysterious absences for emergency medical treatment.

The claims made about the health of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who will be 70 in October, are lurid and macabre, as well as impossible to verify.

But they illustrate how little is known about the health of a leader whose medical condition is fundamental to the future of Europe, all the more so after he ordered Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Over the course of Putin's two decades in power, remarkably little has emerged about his health, beyond the famous images provided by the Kremlin showing him bare-chested in a bid to project an image of macho strength.

But scrutiny has now increased with the war that Putin unleashed against Russia's neighbour.

What are the claims?

The most in-depth investigation into Putin's health was published in April by the Russian-language news site Proekt, which used open-source data to conclude that the president's trips to the southern resort city of Sochi were synchronised with those of a large number of doctors.

They included specialist in thyroid cancer Yevgeny Selivanov, whose visits to Sochi frequently coincided with Putin's sudden absences from the public eye over the past years.

It also alleged that one of the methods used by Putin to ensure longevity were baths in blood extracted from deer antlers in Siberia, a method recommended by his friend Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, who is from Siberia. (fake news)

French weekly Paris Match
this month said that on visits to Saudi Arabia in 2019 and France in 2017, Putin was accompanied by a team whenever he went to the toilet, to keep his excretions so no foreign power could medically analyse his urine or stools.

Even more sensationally, US publication Newsweek said in June that Putin had undergone treatment for advanced cancer in April, citing American intelligence. The US National Security Council denied the existence of such briefings.

Ukraine's military intelligence chief, Major General Kyrylo Budanov, in a mid-May interview with Sky News claimed without evidence that Putin has cancer.


Proekt also alleged that the Kremlin set up a fake office in Sochi that purported to look like the one at his suburban Moscow residence to make it look like he was working in the Russian capital rather than resting at the Black Sea resort.

What information is there?

The only time the Kremlin confirmed Putin was suffering a health problem was the fall of 2012, when he cancelled several meetings and vanished from public life after being seen moving awkwardly.

The Kremlin at the time said he had pulled a muscle and one newspaper said he aggravated a back problem during a stunt when he flew with cranes on a motorised hang-glider. But Proekt alleges it was here that his major health problems began.

The Covid-19 pandemic has also seen sometimes odd conduct from the Russian leader.

The Kremlin said he had been vaccinated, but unlike almost all other world leaders, no images ever emerged of his jab. Those coming into close contact with him, including journalists, were subject to the most stringent precautions such as days of quarantine.

Visiting world leaders who did not accept the Kremlin's stringent conditions -- such as French President Emmanuel Macron and UN chief Antonio Guterres -- were banished to the end of a now notoriously long table.

Those who accepted the Kremlin's demands, including a Russian Covid test, and possibly quarantine, such as Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan were allowed a handshake and even an embrace.

A meeting with Shoigu on Ukraine in late April also fuelled rumours with Putin tightly gripping the table in what some saw a bid to stop body tremors. Numerous videos have also shown one of Putin's feet fidgeting during meetings.

The Kremlin has meanwhile postponed Putin's annual direct line phone-in with the Russian people, usually a fixture in June, to a later date without explanation.

Huge efforts appear to have been made to protect Putin. In his 2020 annual news conference only a handful of reporters -- quarantined and tested beforehand -- were allowed in the room with him, while others massed in another hall.

In 2021, the event returned to its usual format but with a vast distance between the front row of journalists and Putin's desk. Even now, with the business of government returning to normal in most of the world, Putin conducts most domestic business via video.

What does the Kremlin say?

The Kremlin, via Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov, has vehemently denied all claims that the Russian president is suffering from any serious health problem.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov took the highly unusual step in an interview with French television channel TF1 in late May to deny Putin was ill, saying "I don't think that sane people can see in this person signs of some kind of illness or ailment" and claiming that the Russian leader appeared in public "every day".


Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko, ostracised by the West but a frequent face-to-face interlocutor with Putin, insisted in a March interview with Japanese television that the Russian leader was in rude health.

"If you think that something is wrong with President Putin or something happened, you are, as we say, the most pitiful person on earth," he said.

In recent public appearances -- including a forum on Peter the Great and a meeting with Turkmenistan President Serdar Berdymukhamedov -- Putin has also shown no sign of physical frailty.

Why does it matter?

Putin remains the undisputed leader of Russia and most observers expect him to seek a third consecutive mandate in 2014, after recent controversial constitutional changes allowing him to do so.

There is no obvious successor and, as commander in chief of the Russian forces, it was the decision of Putin to invade Ukraine on February 24.

"The country does not know a word of truth about the physical and emotional health of the person who runs it," said the editor-in-chief of Proekt, Roman Badanin.

"The whole planet does not know if a person who could destroy all of humanity by pressing a red button is healthy."

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The latest from Putin.

 

taratai

Padawan Learner
"The whole planet does not know if a person who could destroy all of humanity by pressing a red button is healthy."
Ha. The whole planet knows very well how demented The Lich In Charge is, and can clearly see him breaking apart as he keeps rambling in the public and pooping into his pants, yet nothing gets done about it. Clearly, a senile old man that cannot remember what he was doing is less of threat to public safety than Trump was.
But then, i guess it only shows who's actually in charge - the demented puppet clearly isn't, so his masters don't have to worry about him pressing any red buttons anytime soon. It's the people they cannot fully control that bother them.

Also, i (not so) secretly wish some of these rumors, like about bathing in blood, were spread by Putin himself, it would make it even more funny. It's really amusing to see what nonsense people are willing to believe when it's about someone they dislike, so why not add more fuel to the fire and laugh at it.
 

Yuriy

Padawan Learner
A: Yes

Q: (Ark) How?

A: Algebra.

Q: (Ark) What kind of algebra?

A: Simple.
Hello! As always - thank you very much for your work!
Regarding the algebraic description of densities - I am not particularly at odds with accurate sciences (due to my natural laziness:)), but there are some thoughts on this matter. In short, let's say 0 (zero) - consciousness/information/infinity, 1 (unit) - the unit of consciousness, the fractal expression 0 (zero) in all kinds of manifestations. The process of 1 (units) to 0 (zero) is determined by the interaction of 1 (units) with the other 1 (units). then you can reflect on the "technical" side of the transition.
Somehow so.
ps. Maybe it is clear to many as God's day, but still.
 
Hello! As always - thank you very much for your work!
Regarding the algebraic description of densities - I am not particularly at odds with accurate sciences (due to my natural laziness:)), but there are some thoughts on this matter. In short, let's say 0 (zero) - consciousness/information/infinity, 1 (unit) - the unit of consciousness, the fractal expression 0 (zero) in all kinds of manifestations. The process of 1 (units) to 0 (zero) is determined by the interaction of 1 (units) with the other 1 (units). then you can reflect on the "technical" side of the transition.
Somehow so.
ps. Maybe it is clear to many as God's day, but still.
It work to the power. 1 density 0, 2nd density 1, 3rd density 2. So on. Example 3 doggy working together will equal 3^1= 3 while 3 human 3^2 = 8 (provided they don't bite each other head off/work well together). A lot of things have been explained in channeling before. I think Ark is just upset that a lot of science has been corrupted by cabal just give him some time. Kinda imagine if you are a priest and someone told you that Christianity is made up or if you are a nasa engineer being told we never landed on the moon, heck it isn't even a moon but a damaged biosphere ship. The picture of a lot of space portrait like earth, galaxy etc are photoshop (I'm not sure what kind of program they are using). Everything is a big lie.
 

MJF

Dagobah Resident
Ha. The whole planet knows very well how demented The Lich In Charge is, and can clearly see him breaking apart as he keeps rambling in the public and pooping into his pants, yet nothing gets done about it. Clearly, a senile old man that cannot remember what he was doing is less of threat to public safety than Trump was.
But then, i guess it only shows who's actually in charge - the demented puppet clearly isn't, so his masters don't have to worry about him pressing any red buttons anytime soon. It's the people they cannot fully control that bother them.

Also, i (not so) secretly wish some of these rumors, like about bathing in blood, were spread by Putin himself, it would make it even more funny. It's really amusing to see what nonsense people are willing to believe when it's about someone they dislike, so why not add more fuel to the fire and laugh at it.
Back in the day, there was a British satirical program called Spitting Images that did an ongoing serial on President Ronald Reagan called 'The President's Brain is Missing'. How fact now resembles fiction!

 
It work to the power. 1 density 0, 2nd density 1, 3rd density 2. So on. Example 3 doggy working together will equal 3^1= 3 while 3 human 3^2 = 8 (provided they don't bite each other head off/work well together). A lot of things have been explained in channeling before. I think Ark is just upset that a lot of science has been corrupted by cabal just give him some time. Kinda imagine if you are a priest and someone told you that Christianity is made up or if you are a nasa engineer being told we never landed on the moon, heck it isn't even a moon but a damaged biosphere ship. The picture of a lot of space portrait like earth, galaxy etc are photoshop (I'm not sure what kind of program they are using). Everything is a big lie.
sorry, getting sleepy. I meant 2^3=8 for human for doggy just 1+1+1 the power start working the higher the density 3^3=27 for 3 4DSto human. That is why they want you to network for greater power.
 

Yuriy

Padawan Learner
It work to the power. 1 density 0, 2nd density 1, 3rd density 2. So on. Example 3 doggy working together will equal 3^1= 3 while 3 human 3^2 = 8 (provided they don't bite each other head off/work well together). A lot of things have been explained in channeling before. I think Ark is just upset that a lot of science has been corrupted by cabal just give him some time. Kinda imagine if you are a priest and someone told you that Christianity is made up or if you are a nasa engineer being told we never landed on the moon, heck it isn't even a moon but a damaged biosphere ship. The picture of a lot of space portrait like earth, galaxy etc are photoshop (I'm not sure what kind of program they are using). Everything is a big lie.
More widely, interaction with everything surrounds. And so I agree with the course of your thought.
We will continue to separate lies from truth.
 
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thorbiorn

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
In this session, there was:
(L) Anything else from anybody?

A: Be aware that you are currently under attack by forces that wish to silence you and end your exertions on behalf of your group in specific and the planet in general. These forces are getting desperate and will attempt to use any inroad possible. Be awake and alert at all times. Any disputes or disagreements can be easily blown out of proportion to your destruction. And then, when the negative energy is withdrawn, the devastation left will be amplified by the knowledge that it was all a deception. [Planchette swirls around and around for about 45 seconds] You have been warned. Do not take this lightly. Communicate and listen. It will take all of you together to navigate these dangers!!! Goodbye.
The above may share similarity with the following statement from the Session 12 June, 2008:
A: Close. You must never forget that this is a real war at the deepest levels, a war for souls and the future. All of you here are crucial to the successful outcome. All sorts of ploys will be utilized to destroy your unity. This was begun at your births and includes early childhood torture at the hands of those most susceptible to control in your lives. This was intended to make dysfunctional traits that would interfere with the successful completion of your respective missions. It is a great challenge. But you knew it beforehand and were strengthened for the task.
The context is here:
Q: (L) How many people are born without emotional centers? Are they born that way?

A: Yes

Q: (L) How many people like that are on the planet?

A: Many. Quite often authoritarian types.

Q: (Ark) What is the advantage for someone having no emotions, some not evident advantage?

A: Easily become tools of intrigue.
Q: (L) Well that's not good. (Perceval) Was there any sense of {name deleted} being used as a tool against us in some way?

A: Oh, indeed. The intent was however to subvert {name deleted}.

Q: (Perceval) Was that dream I had of being attacked that {name deleted} appeared in, was that...?

A: A disturbance in the force indeed. Ark shivered in anguish.

Q: (Ark) What shivered? (L) Remember that dream that Perceval had that he was talking about, and it was really a bad dream about being attacked or chased or something, and he was having that dream the same night that you woke up shivering and having all that weird stuff going on? And we couldn't figure out what was happening with you. And then we asked the C's about it and they said something about the “war leader is connected to his warriors, a disturbance [in the force]”, etc. That almost suggests a direct attack on Perceval...

A: Close. You must never forget that this is a real war at the deepest levels, a war for souls and the future. All of you here are crucial to the successful outcome. All sorts of ploys will be utilized to destroy your unity. This was begun at your births and includes early childhood torture at the hands of those most susceptible to control in your lives. This was intended to make dysfunctional traits that would interfere with the successful completion of your respective missions. It is a great challenge. But you knew it beforehand and were strengthened for the task.
 

MJF

Dagobah Resident
Quaternions have an application in video games' 3D graphics engines because they are better for calculating orientation and rotation without computational errors. Seeing how quaternions are useful in a particular application provides some insight I think.


The 3BlueOneBrown channel provides lots of visualizations combined with math theory. This one helps visualize and understand quaternions:

I wonder if quaternions can be used to determine a point in space-time for a given event. Using the analogy explained by the C's of the projector and slides, where each slide is an event that you can select by going backwards or forwards in time. The quaternion can give you the coordinates of the slide.
I think so, but a quaternion would have extra functionality in one higher dimension.

I'm a little confused actually. It seems like a quaternion is basically a coordinate system - like the cartesian coordinate system with an added dimension. Quaternion also sounds like the name of some sort of quantum particle, which seems misleading. In graphics software, there could be many individual quaternion instances running in real-time, each representing a particular game object/parameters as an object of the class Quaternion. Such object instances could be working within the software's quaternion coordinate system rules.


After you posted these very interesting comments on Quaternions, we also looked at Octonions and the possible relevance of the Octagon to UFT. Whilst doing research on the Alton Towers thread, I stumbled across another possible link between the Octagon and the Kabbalah Tree of Life. I post here the relevant extracts from my article:​

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The patterned tile on the Tour Magdela floor
Notice that the floor tiles show a regular octagonal pattern reminding one of the eight-petalled Lotus Flower, which corresponds to the Eightfold Path of Good Law and the Buddhist Mandala. Such a regular octagon can also from the basis of a Tesseract.

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And the 11 symmetries of a regular octagon can be presented as shown in the diagram below. Lines of reflections are blue through vertices, purple through edges, and gyration orders are given in the centre. Vertices are coloured by their symmetry position.

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On the regular octagon, there are 11 distinct symmetries. John Conway labels full symmetry as r16. The dihedral symmetries are divided depending on whether they pass through vertices (d for diagonal) or edges (p for perpendiculars) Cyclic symmetries in the middle column are labelled as g for their central gyration orders. Full symmetry of the regular form is r16 and no symmetry is labelled a1.

The most common high symmetry octagons are p8, an isogonal octagon constructed by four mirrors can alternate long and short edges, and d8, an isotoxal octagon constructed with equal edge lengths, but vertices alternating two different internal angles. These two forms are duals of each other and have half the symmetry order of the regular octagon.

Each subgroup symmetry allows one or more degrees of freedom for irregular forms. Only the g8 subgroup has no degrees of freedom but can be seen as directed edges.​

Are we seeing here the possible rudiments of a hyperdimensional physics based on energy flows? Could these relate to spin states?

But that last diagram also reminds me very much of this particular ‘tree of life’:

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The Judaic Kabbalah tree of life 10 Sefirot, through which the Ein Sof unknowable divine manifests Creation. The configuration relates to man.

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Moreover, the Tree of Life (Kabbalah) is derived from the Flower of Life, which to the Ancient Egyptians and eastern esotericism is the eight-petalled Lotus Flower, which, as stated above, corresponds to the Eightfold Path of Good Law and the Buddhist Mandala. In Hebrew, the Tree of Life is the mystical symbol within the Kabbalah of esoteric Judaism used to describe the path to God. The Tree of Life would also seem to tie in with the Chakra system as well. However, are we really seeing a model of a disguised hyperdimensional physics in action? If we were to plug Quaternians and/or Octonians in here, could it bring us closer to UFT?

For more on Octagons see: Octagon - Wikipedia
 

John G

The Living Force
Moreover, the Tree of Life (Kabbalah) is derived from the Flower of Life, which to the Ancient Egyptians and eastern esotericism is the eight-petalled Lotus Flower, which, as stated above, corresponds to the Eightfold Path of Good Law and the Buddhist Mandala. In Hebrew, the Tree of Life is the mystical symbol within the Kabbalah of esoteric Judaism used to describe the path to God. The Tree of Life would also seem to tie in with the Chakra system as well. However, are we really seeing a model of a disguised hyperdimensional physics in action? If we were to plug Quaternians and/or Octonians in here, could it bring us closer to UFT?

I tend to think of sacred geometry as using the root system math of mathematical physics only more for words than numbers thus being more directly related to personality circumplex models. Just like the sefirot (tree of life), one side is restriction (inward personalities/spacetime dimensions) and the other is expansion (outward personalities/spacetime dimensions). Jungian personality-wise, you would have an INFJ inward quaternity/quaternion and an ESTP outward quaternity/quaternion.
 

MJF

Dagobah Resident
How did I miss this one (apologies up front if I have posted it before though). This is a pre-Ark session by the way.

Tetrahedrons and Pyramids

Session 17August 1996
:

Q: (L) All right, let's get on to our questions here. Let me ask a quick one about the tetrahedron. Terry, you ask it, because you know more about it. (T) The Tetrahedron, triangle mathematics that Hoagland is working with in conjunction with the Mars/Cydonia region where he supposedly discovered this...

A: Energy consolidator. EM Wave capturer.

Q: (T) Ok, so it’s an EM wave capturer. Does it also expel EM waves?

A: Close.

Q: (T) From the same points? The 19 points, whatever it is... [He obviously meant the points on the planet that Hoagland talks about that are located at about 19 Degrees of latitude if you place a tetrahedron inside a sphere.]

A: Channels and enhances, when used properly, and in pristine conditions.

Q: (T) Hoagland is not talking about... whatever he's talking about, as far as the mathematics go, of the tetrahedral triangles within the sphere, which I'm assuming this planet is calling the sacred geometries, but are physics-type things of different densities, which may not actually be right. OK, this doesn't apply just to Mars, this is, every sphere has these same properties...?

A: Yes.

Q: (T)... a golfball, a base ball; I know they're not perfect spheres, they have dimples; all the way up to the sun, and so forth and so on, of any size, made out of any material, as long as it's a sphere, it will have the same properties.

A: No.

Q: (T) OK, it has to have certain kinds of materials?

A: No, must be magnetized.

Q: (T) OK, it's a magnetized sphere; something that has a magnetic field around it. (L) Is the tetrahedral configuration a property of the magnetism?

A: Yes. No.

Q: (T) Yes to my question, no to Laura's question?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) OK, my question is, the sphere has to be able to generate a magnetic field, like the earth has a magnetic field, like Mars generates a magnetic field...

A: Or be magnetized by installation of internal magnetic generator.

Q: (L) OK, what's the purpose of this? What's the purpose of these tetrahedrons? What are the...

A: Purpose is not proper term.

Q: (T) That's right. It's not a purpose, it just exists this way. These spheres that are magnetic, or are able to be magnetized, this happens just because they are what they are, and this is how the physics works?

A: Reflection of universal balance.

Q: (L) OK, they just simply... and is it that something occurs at the points of these triangles that is noticeable, I mean, is it like a power point?

A: No.

Q: (L) OK, well, this guy Jim [who is in communication with Ark] says that they are designated by different monuments on the planet's surface...

A: Nonsense!!!

Q: (T) Thank you! (L)... and that they are visual sighting...

A: Artificial constructed tetrahedrons are placed on strategic locations on the planet's surface in order to utilize magnetic fields properly.

Q: (L) Who places these artificially constructed tetrahedrons at these points?

A: The artificial constructors.

Q: (L) And who are they?

A: Whomever they may be.

Q: (T) In other words, they can be anybody. They're artificial constructor, they could be anybody... (L) If people know about them, they can do this...

A: No, no, no. Nineteen degrees north and south.

Q: (T) Correct, those are the numbers that Hoagland came up with, with his stuff. On most of the planets, and our sun, we seem to have major events happening, or have happened...

A: Hawaii.

Q: (T) Yes, Hawaii, Puerto Rico... let's see, 19 degrees north and south, Philippines, I think, is somewhere close, on the south side. Major volcanos... (F) Philippines is on the north side, that's not in the Southern Hemisphere... (T) I'd have to pull out a global map to see what the 19 degrees are. On Mars, Cydonia resides at approximately 19 degrees, the Giant volcano, the dead volcano on Mars is approximately 19 degrees, the stuff that they found on Venus, the major things, are at approximately 19 degrees. The sunspots are approximately 19 degrees, the red spot on Jupiter... (L) Is there anything else we want to get on this tetrahedron... Is there anything else we could ask about this subject, that we haven't thought of ourselves... (T) I'm sure there's a lot... (L) Oh, I know... that you could give us?

A: Unlimited.

Q: (L) Do the tetrahedrons spin within the sphere? Do these power points of the tetrahedron spin?

A: Energy fields flow in balance.

Q: (T) So they're spinning to keep balance? (J) Like a gyro. [Notice that the Cs did NOT say that anything was spinning, only that energy was flowing.] (T) Is there... now, am I correct in the fact that there's a direct relationship here to the real Hebrew Star of David, to these tetrahedrals?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) And that everything that has been done to it for the last 500 years or so, has been done to screw things up?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Yes. So that that symbol is not a religious symbol, as such, but a very important... (L)...power symbol?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) It describes a physics that transcends the densities.

A: So is pentagon.

Q: (T) So is the Pentagon? (J) A pentagon. (T) The pentagon shape. These are part of what humans describe as the sacred geometries.

A: Yes.

Q: (T) So, in that 'Bear' book that I have...

A: You as Atlanteans knew this, and lived by it in many ways. For example, the pyramid recharges by capturing exactly half the energy points, thus allowing a positive imbalance build-up to be captured, then expended.


So it look as though Terry had latched on to this point as far back as 1996. So, if the Star of David is a power symbol and not really a religious symbol, this could be equally true of the Kabbalah Tree of Life as well.
 

MJF

Dagobah Resident
Keeping on the subject of the importance of the tetrahedron to UFT, I came across this exchange in the transcripts (I don't think it has been posted before on this particular thread), which may shed more light on the matter:

Session dated September 25, 1999:

Q: There could be many explanations. Now, we have a correspondent who wrote and asked a question. He said that he noticed there was promotion of Hoagland's idea about the 19.5 degree tetrahedral configuration at one point, and then another idea regarding the parallelogram business involving an 18 degree mark in another section. So, what is the difference between the 19.5 degree comments of Hoagland, and the 18 degree point of interest that you brought up? Are we talking about two different things here?

A: Well, if you do the math, you see that 18 degrees fits nicely with ninety. Maybe 19.5 is due to crustal slippages in some"land mark" event?!

Q: (A) But, in geometry, this 19.5 degrees is what you get when you try to put a tetrahedron into a sphere. That's how Hoagland got it, not because of observation.

A: Okay, that is good, too.

Q: How come you didn't know that?

A: We pointed it out in the first place.

Q: Is that why you put "landmark" in quotes? That 19.5 is where it touches. It is the mark of the point of contact. Is that it?

A: Clues, my dear, clues, and the eternal need not to abridge free will.

Q: But, if these tetrahedrons fit in a sphere, and they touch the sphere at 19.5 degrees, how do they relate to this effect that you have said manifests at 18 degrees?

A: Does 1.5 fit into 90? Does 90 fit into 180? Does 180 fit into 360? Ask yourself, "what does it mean?"

Q: We don't know. (A) The point is that the angle Hoagland is talking about is not 19.5, it is an approximation of point something, something, something.... So, if it is just 19.5, that's the difference between 19.5 and 18 - that is 1.5, which, in this case, is not exactly 1.5, it's one point something which does not fit into anything that we know.

A: Circumference.

Q: (A) Yes. 360 degrees. Is the circumference important?

A: It is important.

Q: (A) So, we can compute these two circumferences, and these will differ by some number, and this number will fit again into one of these circumferences, and the point is that it sould fit so that there is an integer number...

A: Yes.

Q: (A) But, there will then be many more angles. There will be not only 18 and 19.5...

A: Yes. All Hoagland has done is highlight a point at which magnetic lines converge using the tetrahedron model.

Q: If they converge at that point...

A: But the question is how does the tetrahedron model relate to trans-dimensional space?

Q: How does the tetrahedron model relate to trans-dimensional space?

A: A key which unlocks the door.

Q: Back to the tetrahedron. How is it a key to trans-dimensional space? Does one activate it in some way? Do you place machinery of some sort at these points?

A: No. Magnetism.

Q: Are you supposed to generate magnetism, or is it natural magnetism?

A: Natural.

Q: Are you supposed to do anything to it or with it?

A: Supposed???

Q: Is it useful to do something with it?

A: Can be.

Q: In what sense?

A: Travelling between dimensions.

Q: Is anybody at the present time utilizing it in this way?

A: Not terran STS 3rd density.

Q: That implies that 4th density STS IS doing this. Could one construct a scale model of a tetrahedron in a sphere, magnetize it, and open portals?

A: Yes.

Q: Would it require a lot of electrical current?

A: Yes.

Q: Is there anyway to travel between dimensions, in space time, or whatever, utilizing very little power, as such?

A: Off the point we told you before that all spheres of cosmic nature are windows.

Q: Going in a slightly different direction. I have been thinking about the nature of our reality, and I have been thinking that underneath it, or at the base of it, there is a 4th density reality similar to the Kaluza-Klein theory. Am I correct so far? Am I going somewhere here?

A: Pursue.

Q: Okay. And, beneath this 4th density reality, there is an etheric reality; and the etheric reality consists of 5th density. Okay? Beneath the 5th density reality, there is the 6th density reality which I am trying to describe in terms of geometry. That geometry is the underlying, essential thing about ideas, natures or aspects of concepts that come into being in our material world; that geometry is the essential nature of things. Am I getting there? But, beyond this geometry, from what does the geometry emanate? I know you are going to say something like "The One," or "Seventh Density," but I would really like to have a concept because I can't get beyond this. Even if it is inadequate, from what does geometry, which expresses as gravity, emerge?

A: Not in sync.

Q: What will get me "in synch?"

A: No "beneaths."

Q: Okay. Since there are no "beneaths," what term would be a suitable replacement?

A: Around.

Q: What is around this geometry?

A: For you to pursue.

Q: Can you give me a hint here?

A: We just did.

Q: Would it be safe to say that it is "nested?"

A: No, no, no. You still think in terms of a limited domain. When one goes out into space there is no above, below, up, down, left, right, beneath, etc. There is only around. In a spherical sense.

Q: Every point is the center?

A: Closer.

Q: Back to the tetrahedron, these points where this tetrahedron touches this sphere, and these are lines of magnetic convergence; how do these lines of magnetic convergence appear on this sphere; do they radiate out from the convergence points like spider webs? Or do they converge from the center to the outside of the sphere? Are they laid on the sphere like the grid of longitude and latitude?

A: Closer to latter.

Q: So, when you say they are lines of convergence, does that mean that a latitude line and longitude line, so to speak, converge at those points?

A: Think multi-dimensionally. No flat paper please.


Hence, for all those who have commented on this thread so far, you may need to plug these comments into your reasoning. On the subjexct of Richard Hoagland who had a close relationship with the physicist Tom Bearden who has published papers on UFT, the C's said this in the Session dated 28 August 1999:

Q: (A) I don't know for what reason, but I want to write about disinformation, or lying, by Bearden and misleading by Richard Hoagland. I want to expose them. I don't know if it is a good thing, but the idea that I should do it, provided it is done in a proper way...

A: The problem with Mr. Hoagland is that he has been lead astray by others.

Q: (A) He has been lead astray by others, and now he is leading astray many others himself.

A: Yes.

Q: (A) I don't know why, but somehow I want to prevent this. The main question is: he takes a lot of info and propagates some of the ideas that come from Bearden, and which, to me, are evidently wrong. I believe Bearden knows that he is simply lying; about Maxwell equations, for example; how physicists have been deceived and how silly they are and how they are in the dark. My question is: assuming that, because it is almost evident to me, that he is lying and he knows that he is lying, why is doing that?

A: Maybe has been paid to do so. Who would benefit from this? {Hoagland and Bearden's lies.}

Q: (A) Government, secret government, Lizzies...

A: Uh huh.

Q: (A) The next question is: will I be in trouble...

A: Best to contact him directly, privately.

Q: (A) Him? Bearden or Hoagland?

A: Former. Hoagland is not in control anymore.

Q: What would result from contacting Bearden? (A) If he is being paid for lying, what would follow?

A: If you do it right, maybe you will get an insightful response.


I don't know if Ark ever contacted Bearden. I think Maxwells' equations (using Quaternions) are still important to UFT​
judging from what the C's said here in the Session dated 5 December 1998:

Q: (A) What about quaternions? Lord Hamilton invented quaternions, and this Bearden tells us that Maxwell wrote his equation using these quaternions, and his original papers are hidden from us by the government; that Maxwell knew more than we are told. Is this really the case?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) Are these quaternions useful?

A: Partly, but there is a missing link.


Could that link be Octonions I wonder? I have only mentioned this because I have been re-reading some of Dr Joseph's Farrell's books and he had some very interesting observations to make on this matter, which I will download here when I can get time. Basically, Farrell confrims what the C's said about Maxwell by pointing out that after Maxwell's death, Oliver Heaviside (see: History of Maxwell's equations - Wikipedia) came along and, to use Farrell's term, "butchered" Maxwell's equations. Quoting from Wkipedia:
"In 1873, Maxwell published A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism as a summary of his work on electromagnetism. In summary, Maxwell's equations successfully unified theories of light and electromagnetism, which is one of the great unifications in physics.

Later, Oliver Heaviside studied Maxwell's A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism and employed vector calculus to synthesize Maxwell's over 20 equations into the 4 recognizable ones which modern physicists use. Maxwell's equations also inspired Albert Eistein in developing the theory of special relativity."


It is the employment of vector calculus that Farrell calls into question, which was Heaviside's contribution. Did he do this to mislead? Who knows.

You will recall above that the C's spoke of utilising tetrahedrons (remembering that a double tetrahedron creates an octahedron, a shape with six sides) for interdimensional travel. They seemed to give a practical demonstration of this in the Session dated 4 December 1999:
Orion Headquarters

Q: Now, according to some information posted on the Millennium Group site, there are some photographs that seem to indicate that there IS something anomalous in orbit around the Sun... maybe a new "planet, " or something. Is there a new object in our solar system in a close orbit around the sun?

A: Maybe.

Q: There is conjecture that this object appeared around the time of the passage of the Hale Bopp comet. Is that the case?

A: No.

Q: Is this object that is possibly in orbit around the sun, is it a natural or artificial construction?

A: Latter.

Q Who constructed it?

A: Orion STS.

Q: What is it?

A: HQ.

Q: The Orion Headquarters?

A: For your star system.

Q: Okay, you said "maybe" to this being a "new object." When did it arrive, or when was it placed there?

A: You measure "time" linearly.

Q: Can we give it a "linear" definition, or does it come and go through some sort of portal in terms of time, in a cyclical way, or a variable and selective way?

A: Yes, but it arrived at that coordinate 26730 years ago, sort of.

Q: What is its orbit, or distance from the Sun?

A: 31,230,000 miles.

Q: How large is this object?

A: 1005.6 kilometers diameter.

Q: What is the general configuration or shape of it? (A) A sphere, a ball, a disc, a cylinder?

A: Partial sphere, hexagonal.

Q: (A) Is it in a circular orbit or an elliptical orbit?

A: Circular. Rotation is altered by guidance system, gravitationally powered.

Q: What is its angle to the plane of the ecliptic?

A: 21 degrees.

Q: Okay, you said that it is "headquarters," so that answers what it does. And, it did not arrive with Hale Bopp. Just off to the side, was there REALLY a Hale Bopp companion - this rumor just won't die!?

A: No.

Q: Now, what do these Orions DO in this object? I mean, isn't it a little warm so close to the sun? I know. That's a stupid question. Space is cold.

A: Yes, and study magnetism for answers.

Q: Do Orions LIVE in this object?

A: Close.

Q: Do they use it as a transfer portal?

A: Yes.

Q: So, it is a doorway, so to speak?

A: Doorway as are many.

Q: How many of these objects are in our solar system?

A: Two.

Q: Where is the other one?

A: Outside, on the fringe of the solar system.
[MJF: I wonder if this could be the weird looking moon of Saturn, Iapetus,which is shaped like a cricket ball with a huge ridge that runs around the entire circumference. Hoagland thinks its true shape is that of a well-worn hexagon. See Iapetus (moon) - Wikipedia It looks a bit like the Death Star in Star Wars.]1656617140114.png

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Q: Is the government, or some faction or department, aware of this object?

A: Yes.

Q: Now, in terms of the photographs of this object, it looks sort of like two cylindrical objects with a dome or energy flow arc at the top. Could you tell us what we were seeing.

A: The object.

Q: Was it two part?

A: No.

Q: What was this arc looking part? Part of the spherical part?

A: Your visual perspective.

Q: Are the two cylindrical parts aspects of the hexagonal shape extending down from a spherical cap?

A: Close.


Talk about a tetrahedral object, how about this concept design that never left the drawing board:

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So, given the above discussion of tetrahedrons, it makes me wonder why the Renaissance sculptor, Lorenzo Ghiberti, designed one of the panels for the Baptistry doors of Florence's grand cathedral - il Duomode, which are known as the the Gates of Paradise, depicting Noah's Ark as a pyramid. See Lorenzo Ghiberti - Wikipedia. Just what did Ghiberti know?

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Quoting from Wikipedia:

Ghiberti first became famous when as a 21-year-old he won the 1401 competition for the first set of bronze doors, with Brunelleschi as the runner up. The original plan was for the doors to depict scenes from the Old Testament, but the plan was changed to depict scenes from the New Testament instead. However, the trial piece, which survives, depicts the sacrifice of Isaac.

To carry out this commission, he set up a large workshop in which many artists trained, including Donatello, Masolino, Michelozzo, Paolo Uccello, and Antonio del Pollaiuolo. When his first set of twenty-eight panels was complete, Ghiberti was commissioned to produce a second set for another doorway in the church, this time with scenes from the Old Testament, as originally intended for his first set. Instead of twenty-eight scenes, he produced ten rectangular scenes in a completely different style. These were more naturalistic, with perspective and a greater idealization of the subject. Dubbed "The Gates of Paradise" by Michelangelo, this second set remains a major monument of the age of Renaissance humanism.

The Gates of Paradise had ten panels with several episodes from a particular story from the Old Testament portrayed on each of them.


The Story of Noah (Panel)
God did not like how the world was full of violence. He told Noah he was going to destroy the earth with a flood and that he needed to build an Ark (shown by the waves in the photograph). He was told to bring two of each kind of animal and his family (shown on the left, right, and on the middle area). There is a Moses laying next to a barrel signifying the drunks (shown on the bottom left). There is Moses offering a sacrifice (shown on the bottom right).

MJF: I think the reference to Moses here should have been to Noah, as it was Noah who did these things (I don't recall Moses ever getting drunk but Noah did). Obviously, there is also no way that Noah took two of every kind of animal into a wooden ark. However, as an Atlantian with advanced technology available to him, he could have taken their DNA instead. This makes me think that the Ark was therefore some sort of laboratory or biological data bank. Could it have been the Egytpian Benben Stone I wonder? Here are the C's on this matter:

Session dated 16 August 1997:

Q: What was the 'Benben' stone?

A: Laboratory.

Q: Well, nobody really knows, but they think it was like a pyramidal object, and it has been represented as being on top of an obelisk. Why?

A: Energy.

Q: What do you mean?

A: It produces energy.

Q: What kind?

A: EM.

Q: Who currently has the Benben stone?

A: It is buried.

Q: Where?

A: In Sinai.

Q: Who buried it?

A: Saphorus.

Q: Who was that?

A: Top director of Ahragh creed.

Q: What is that?

A: These are tales best left to the discoverer, not the demanderer.


Bear in mind that the C's had previously said in the Session dated 5 October 1994:

Q: (L) What land did Noah/Utnapishtim live in, what continent?

A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) Where did the ark land after the receding of the waters?

A: Egypt.


So, we learn that the Ark landed in Egypt from Atlantis. Hence, there seems to be a very good chance that the Ark could have been the Benben Stone. For a good article on Ghiberti's Noah's Ark door, see: Was Noah's Ark a Pyramid? Was Noah a Pharoah? — Jesse Waugh.

Waugh asks a very good question: "So it follows that some learned monk instructed Ghiberti on what to depict and where. Did this monk possess some arcane knowledge about the true identity of Noah? Did he know that the story of Noah's Ark actually refers to Ancient Egypt?"

Here is another view of that door:

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