Session 23 August 2001

thorbiorn

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
The french team is translating this session and they would like to have some precisions about that section of the session:
Q: Okay, last time we were talking about the "M" mound in Wisconsin. You said that it was not a natural structure but that it was built for "F 353535." Could you say more about this? Was this used somehow to genetically manipulate the surrounding population?
A: Best so called lie in town.
Q: That doesn't make any sense.
A: Lay. [As in "ley" lines?]
Q: (TB) It looks like a big man laying. Is something laying there? (L) Or was it used for some kind of fertility rites? Is something buried inside it?
A: Force field generator.
[...]
Q: (TB) There is an incredibly high rate of cancer in the area. Is it related to this high rate of cancer?
A: Yes. Lies are lays.
Q: (A) The cancer could be due to the lead which leaches into the water. (TB) That's true. (L) Genetically manipulate the surrounding population. Does this force field... well, yeah. Lies are lays. Ley lines, lies are lays... (TB) STS control field. (L) Is that what you are saying?
A: Close.
I have bolded the parts that are a bit unclear.

Any comments or precision wil be appreciated.

Thanks
Below are some attempts to come to an understanding which would make translation easier. If nothing gets resolved, would it be possible to make a translation in French while also adding a footnote or a comment in brackets including the English text, so interested people could continue their study of meaning on their own?

I interpret "Best so called lie in town." to refer to "Was this used somehow to genetically manipulate the surrounding population?"
"Lay" refers to "Force field generator"
But regarding this "Force field generator" Does "A: Close." refer to "(L): [...] Lies are lays. Ley lines, lies are lays..." and or "(TB) STS control field"?

Lay as a noun has several meanings and more than one might it be meaningful. Below I have crossed out those I find less likely.
lay
noun (1)
\ ˈlā \
Definition of lay (Entry 2 of 5)
1: COVERT, LAIR
2: something (such as a layer) that lies or is laid (see LAY entry 1)
3a: line of action : PLAN
b: line of work : OCCUPATION
4a: terms of sale or employment : PRICE
b: share of profit (as on a whaling voyage) paid in lieu of wages
5a: the amount of advance of any point in a rope strand for one turn
b: the nature of a fiber rope as determined by the amount of twist, the angle of the strands, and the angle of the threads in the strands

6: the way in which a thing lies or is laid in relation to something else the lay of the land
7: the state of one that lays eggs hens coming into lay
8a vulgar: a partner in sexual intercourse

b usually vulgar: SEXUAL INTERCOURSE
Definition of SEXUAL INTERCOURSE
Lay. In The Merriam-Webster.com Dictionary. Retrieved December 10, 2019, from Definition of LAY
"Lay" can be in the meaning of something covert, as a hiding place. The lie of it being "to genetically manipulate the surrounding population?" hides that it was (is still?) a "Force field generator" Just as the mount itself may be understood as a hiding place for a "Force field generator" perhaps buried. Also it can be a lay in the sense of being a plan or part of a plan. Alternatively if one takes meaning six then the lay of the land is what adds up to it being a force field generator. Or the way something was laid inside the mound.

The context of the previous session was:
Q: Was Rock Lake also a necropolis?
A: No.
Q: Where did the people come from who built the structures in Rock Lake?
A: Have come from many places.
Q: (T) Is the "M" mound a natural formation?
A: No.
Q: (L) Who made it?
A: F 353535
Q: Is it worthwhile to keep studying these clues?
A: Yes.
There are several Rock Lakes, but Rock Lake (Wisconsin) - Wikipedia
Rock Lake is perhaps most famous for its underwater "pyramids" believed by some to be built by the Aztalan natives at a time when water levels were much lower.[2]
Rock Lake (Wisconsin) - Wikipedia
As for Mound "M" there is this one Platte Mound M - Wikipedia while everyone would know the "M" was constructed by students what about the mound itself? Or what is standing on it? The Aztalan made mounds as can be seen from the links below, but I couldn't find the older history of Platte Mound; whether it was influenced by the Aztalan culture is not mentioned.
 

Gandalf

SuperModerator
Moderator
FOTCM Member
Below are some attempts to come to an understanding which would make translation easier. If nothing gets resolved, would it be possible to make a translation in French while also adding a footnote or a comment in brackets including the English text, so interested people could continue their study of meaning on their own?

Thanks thorbiorn. They will probably add a comment.
 

Inquorate

Jedi Master
FOTCM Member
Q: (L) And he had things that were described in the literature as robots or mechanical guys, didn't he? So those were his other machines. What did these machines do?
A: Many things.
Q: (A) I want to know... okay, they were collecting EM energy. Where was this energy coming from. I would also like to collect EM energy. Was this energy from the EM field, was it solar energy, from zero-point energy, or cosmic energy, or what? Where was this energy coming from?
A: Solar moon.
Q: What does that mean?
A: Reflected and therefore modified.
Q: (L) So that suggests the "mirror" concept of Huang Ti.

Picture a solenoid, vibrating with a.c. electricity. At a certain frequency, this vibration will increase, due to the effect of air molecules and virtual particles around the solenoid achieving resonance with vibrating lattice of atoms in the coil. This frequency is related to the quantum transitional speed, 1.094mhz, not speed of light. Consider the local atoms will line up and vibrate as longitudinal phonon (sound) waves, hence 'heat' energy of the system will lower, but electrical activity increase.

Now consider two identical solenoid and a capacitor in series, cap in middle. At a certain frequency, the lag between potential and current in the system at the two ends will be 180' out of phase. Meaning, a power measurement will be negative.

Now, get both frequencies the same, ensure spatial resonance of coils slightly different, no magnetic link between coils, and viola, create electromagnetic energy from reflected atomic movement.

Happy to discuss this.
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Artem Tyomodachi

Padawan Learner
Q: (L) Well, where did Huang Ti come from?
A: Orion Lab.
Somewhere on the forum it was said that it was not clear if this applies only to Huangdi or to all Chinese. According to this study, and if you think the interpretation is correct, then the second option is correct.
Proofs of a divine origin of Chinese are found

Geneticists from the Central southern university have found proofs that slightly less than a half of Chinese are descendants of mythical emperors Ian-di (or Shen-nun) in China and Juan-di to whom the divine origin was attributed. Scientists have presented the conclusions in the pre-print published in a repository of bioRxiv.org.

In 2014 work according to which 40 percent of Chinese are descendants of three “superprimogenitors” living during the Neolithic when agriculture development has begun has been published. Such conclusion is based on existence in population of three often found gaplotip (inherited together options of genes) in a Y-chromosome: O3a1c, O3a2c1 and O3a2c1a. Researchers have decided to find out whether these gaplotipa can initially belong to the first Chinese emperors.

Having studied myths and historical records, researchers have found out that, according to legends, the majority of the Chinese surnames there are from names of governors Ian-di and Juan-di. Geneticists have taken DNA samples from 2415 men who have been divided into several groups according to their surnames: Jiang (occurring from the emperor Ian-di), Ying and Ji (both from Juan-di). Several surnames which as it is considered, are related a name of the mythological hero rebel Chi Yu, the successor Ian-di have entered into the last group at once.

It is established that among carriers of a gaplotip O3a1c the surnames connected with Ian-di, and among O3a2c1a carriers — the surnames connected with Juan-di met more often. Gaplotip was characteristic O3a2c1 of people from the fourth group. Thus, scientists, according to them, managed to connect three “superprimogenitors” with ancient governors of China. However the genetic difference between various groups at the same time remains insignificant therefore it is impossible to come to unambiguous conclusions.

Juan-di — one of the first emperors of China who is considered the ancestor of all Chinese and the founder of Taoism. Ian-di, or “the fiery emperor” is the highest deity in a cult of the Sun, traditional for China, and also the patron of agriculture and medicine. Historians consider that both governors existed as real historic figures, however is later than steel heroes of myths.


The study itself: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/12/05/487918.full.pdf

And another study that shows that carriers of these haplogroups are 2 times less likely to have autism spectrum disorders (ASD):
Recent studies found three Neolithic super-grandfather Y haplotypes among Han Chinese, consistent with the legend of Yan and Huang Emperors. Individuals of royal and noble ancestry or high social economic status (SES) are known to practice assortative mating and consanguineous marriages, which can produce offspring of both higher and lower than average fitness. However, the roles of the super-grandfather Y haplotypes and their descendant lines in history, fitness, and the male biased autism spectrum disorder (ASD) remain unknown. Here we show a link between the super-grandfathers and the legend of Yan-Huang Emperors and between their descendant haplotypes and ASD. We found that subjects carrying the O3a1c and O3a2c1a super-grandfather haplotypes were enriched with Yan and Huang related surnames, respectively, in two independent datasets of 1564 and 772 male Han subjects. We identified high and low SES descendant haplotypes of the super-grandfathers using the Han dataset of the 1000 genomes project based on two criteria: more descendant branches and fewer mutations before star-like expansions. By genotyping 505 fathers of ASD affected male children from the Autism Clinical and Genetic Resources in China with surnames either closely related to Huang (Ying group) or less related (Ji group), we found the high SES haplotypes within the O3a2c1a clade at ∼2 fold lower (odds ratio 2.05, 95% CI 1.28-3.26, P=0.0026) while the low SES haplotypes at ∼2 fold higher frequency (odds ratio 1.92, 95% CI 1.01-3.64, P = 0.046) in the fathers relative to 505 normal subjects. The fraction of low SES haplotypes was greater than that of high SES in ASD fathers of the Ying group, in contrast to Ying controls or the Ji fathers and Ji controls. Consistently, analysis of 2366 ASD affected children showed higher male to female ratio for Ying versus Ji group (6.52 +/-1.11 v 4.59 +/-0.41, P = 0.028, one tailed). These results provide evidence for the Yan-Huang legend and suggest a role for Y in ASD
 

Tycho

Jedi
Re: 23 August 2001




Thank you for your efforts Christian , perhaps you benefit from a search the transcrips for UMMO info ...

I could not find any usefull information regarding the "Ummo" on the Cass site. Has it been removed?
 

ToxicCoward

The Force is Strong With This One

This hyperlink doesn't work anymore. It looks like that it broke after migration to some different forum software. I guess it ommit migration since it wasn't tagged as link...

I hope ID's remain same, so it should be this topic:
 

thorbiorn

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Q: (L) What is the difference between Galle and Gaul?
A: Clue.
Q: (L) Do they both refer to France?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does Galle refer to Rhineland?
A: Close.
Q: (L) I discovered today that one of the Maltese islands, the one that is now called Gozo, was once called "Gaul." Is that getting closer?
A: Close.
"Galle and Gaul" reminded me of Galicia. Eventually, the search led to three different trails.
1)
"Name of Galicia"
From the Wiki:
The name of Galicia, an autonomous community of Spain and former kingdom on the Iberian Peninsula, derives from the Latin toponym Callaecia, later Gallaecia, related to the name of an ancient tribe that resided north of the Douro river, the Gallaeci or Callaeci in Latin, or Kallaikói (καλλαικoι) in Greek.[1]
And
The etymology of the name has been studied since the 7th century. The earliest known attempt at this was due to Isidore of Seville, who related the name of the Galicians and of the Gauls to the Greek word γάλα, milk, 'they are called Galicians because of their fair skin, as the Gauls. For they are fairer than the rest of the peoples of Spain.'[1] Currently, scholars[1] relate the name of the ancient Callaeci either to the Proto-Indo-European *kal-n-eH2 'hill', derived through a local relational suffix -aik-, so meaning 'the hill (people)'; or either to Proto-Celtic *kallī- 'forest', so meaning 'the forest (people)'.[2] In either case, Galicia would mean "land of the Kallaikoi", and be unrelated to the Insular Celtic word Gael, which derives from the root *weydʰ- 'wilderness', or to Gallia, which derives from Celtic *galn- 'power, might'[citation needed]. Update It comes from the ancient name of the city of Porto Kala/kale/Cale meaning port/harbour. Also the city its in the origin of the country’s name Portugal. After the Romans toke over they called the city Portus-Cale/Portucale/Portugal which means Port Port in latin and Celtic. Kalã/kale/cale = what is nowadays Porto Kallaikoi/Calaeci/Galicia= people from Kalã/kale/Cale
From the Wiki about Gallaeci there is a map:
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In the above map one notices that Santiago de Compostela is located in: Galicia. The Wiki has:
Santiago de Compostela[a] is the capital of the autonomous community of Galicia, in northwestern Spain. The city has its origin in the shrine of Saint James the Great, now the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela, as the destination of the Way of St. James, a leading Catholic pilgrimage route since the 9th century.[3] In 1985, the city's Old Town was designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

Santiago de Compostela has a very mild climate for its latitude with heavy winter rainfall courtesy of its relative proximity to the prevailing winds from Atlantic low-pressure systems.
2)
Galicia (Eastern Europe)
The Wiki has:
Galicia (/ɡəˈlɪʃ(i)ə/;[1] Ukrainian and Rusyn: Галичина, Halychyna; Polish: Galicja; Czech and Slovak: Halič; German: Galizien; Hungarian: Galícia/Gácsország/Halics; Romanian: Galiția/Halici; Yiddish: גאַליציע‎ Galitsiye) was a historical and geographic region at the crossroad of Central and Eastern Europe.[2][3][4] It was once the small Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia and later a crown land of Austria-Hungary, the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria, which straddled the modern-day border between Poland and Ukraine. The area, named after the medieval city of Halych,[5][6][7] was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[8][9] In 1253 Prince Daniel of Galicia was crowned the King of Rus (Latin: Rex Rusiae) or King of Ruthenia following the Mongol invasion in Ruthenia (Kyivan Rus). In 1352 the Kingdom of Poland annexed the Kingdom of Galicia and Volhynia as the Ruthenian Voivodeship (Latin: Palatinatus Russiae).
And:
In Roman times, the region was populated by various tribes of Celto-Germanic admixture, including Celtic-based tribes – like the Galice or "Gaulics" and Bolihinii or "Volhynians" – the Lugians and Cotini of Celtic, Vandals and Goths of Germanic origins (the Przeworsk and Púchov cultures). During the Great Migration period of Europe (coinciding with the fall of the Roman Empire), a variety of nomadic groups invaded the area,[17][18] but overall, the East Slavic tribes White Croats and Tivertsi dominated the area since the 6th century until were annexed to Kyivan Rus in the 10th century.[19]

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3)
Galatia in present-day Turkey

The Wiki has:
Galatia (/ɡəˈleɪʃə/; Ancient Greek: Γαλατία, Galatía, "Gaul") was an ancient area in the highlands of central Anatolia, roughly corresponding to the provinces of Ankara and Eskişehir, in modern Turkey. Galatia was named after the Gauls from Thrace (cf. Tylis), who settled here and became its ruling caste in the 3rd century BC, following the Gallic invasion of the Balkans in 279 BC. It has been called the "Gallia" of the East; Roman writers calling its inhabitants Galli (Gauls or Celts).
The terms "Galatians" came to be used by the Greeks for the three Celtic peoples of Anatolia: the Tectosages, the Trocmii, and the Tolistobogii.[1][2] By the 1st century BC the Celts had become so Hellenized that some Greek writers called them Hellenogalatai (Ἑλληνογαλάται).[3][4] The Romans called them Gallograeci.[4] Though the Celts had, to a large extent, integrated into Hellenistic Asia Minor, they preserved their linguistic and ethnic identity.[1]
Roman Galatia[edit]
Main article: Galatia (Roman province)
Upon the death of Deiotarus, the Kingdom of Galatia was given to Amyntas, an auxiliary commander in the Roman army of Brutus and Cassius who gained the favor of Mark Antony.[13] After his death in 25 BC, Galatia was incorporated by Augustus into the Roman Empire, becoming a Roman province.[14] Near his capital Ancyra (modern Ankara), Pylamenes, the king's heir, rebuilt a temple of the Phrygian god Men to venerate Augustus (the Monumentum Ancyranum), as a sign of fidelity. It was on the walls of this temple in Galatia that the major source for the Res Gestae of Augustus were preserved for modernity. Few of the provinces proved more enthusiastically loyal to Rome.

Josephus related the Biblical figure Gomer to Galatia (or perhaps to Gaul in general): "For Gomer founded those whom the Greeks now call Galatians, [Galls], but were then called Gomerites."[15] Others have related Gomer to Cimmerians.

Paul the Apostle visited Galatia in his missionary journeys,[16] and wrote to the Christians there in the Epistle to the Galatians.

Although originally possessing a strong cultural identity, by the 2nd century AD, the Galatians had become assimilated (Hellenization) into the Hellenistic civilization of Anatolia.[17] The Galatians were still speaking the Galatian language in the time of St. Jerome (347–420 AD), who wrote that the Galatians of Ancyra and the Treveri of Trier (in what is now the Rhineland) spoke the same language (Comentarii in Epistolam ad Galatos, 2.3, composed c. 387).

In an administrative reorganisation (c. 386–395), two new provinces succeeded it, Galatia Prima and Galatia Secunda or Salutaris, which included part of Phrygia. The fate of the Galatian people is a subject of some uncertainty, but they seem ultimately to have been absorbed into the Greek-speaking populations of Anatolia.
In the map below the Tectosages are near the Pyrenees, while the Treveri are situated in the upper right area of the map.
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In the map below, Galatia is in the middle while Ancyra/Ankyra, mentioned in the Wiki, is located just above the name.
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When I looked up the Tectosages one of the tribes, on the Wiki, there was:
The Tectosages or Tectosagii (Gaulish: *Textosagii, 'Dwelling-Seekers', or 'Possessions-Seekers') were one of the three ancient Gallic tribes of Galatia in central Asia Minor, together with the Tolistobogii and Trocmii.[1]
The Gaulish ethnonym *Textosagii (sing. Textosagios) means 'those who seek a dwelling', or 'those who seek possessions'. It is composed of the root texto- ('goods, property, possessions'; cf. Old Irish techt 'possession') attached to sagi- ('who is seeking'), and can be compared with the Old Irish legal term techtaigidir, meaning 'to seek to establish (or reestablish) legal claim to land'.[2][3] The form Tectosages is a Latinized variant of the Celtic name where the voiceless velar fricative ⟨x⟩, unknown in Latin, was replaced with the sound ⟨k⟩.[2]
According to Strabo, the Tectosages came originally from the region around Tolosa in Gaul, where they had been part of the tribal confederation of the Volcae. During the Gallic invasion of the Balkans, c. 280 BC, a branch of the Volcae Tectosages, returning from Delphi, split from the main group and joined two other tribes, the Tolistobogii and the Trocmi. Around 278 BC they were hired as mercenaries by Nicomedes I of Bithynia and crossed the Bosporus. After leaving Bithynia they raided in Asia Minor and finally settled in eastern Phrygia, where they established a new Celtic confederate identity as the Galatians. The Tectosages occupied the centre of the Galatian territory, round their capital Ancyra, with the Tolistobogii in the west and the Trocmii to the east.
The Wiki has a map:
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Finally, I looked up Volcae and came full circle:
The Volcae (Latin pronunciation: [ˈwɔɫkae̯]) were a tribal confederation constituted before the raid of combined Gauls that invaded Macedonia c. 270 BC and fought the assembled Greeks at the Battle of Thermopylae in 279 BC. Tribes known by the name Volcae were found simultaneously in southern Gaul, Moravia, the Ebro valley of the Iberian Peninsula, and Galatia in Anatolia. The Volcae appear to have been part of the late La Tène material culture, and a Celtic identity has been attributed to the Volcae, based on mentions in Greek and Latin sources as well as onomastic evidence. Driven by highly mobile groups operating outside the tribal system and comprising diverse elements, the Volcae were one of the new ethnic entities formed during the Celtic military expansion at the beginning of the 3rd century BC.[1] Collecting in the famous excursion into the Balkans, ostensibly, from the Hellene point of view, to raid Delphi, a branch of the Volcae split from the main group on the way into the Balkans and joined two other tribes, the Tolistobogii and the Trocmi, to settle in central Anatolia and establish a new identity as the Galatians.

The Tectosagii were a group of the Volcae who moved through Macedonia into Anatolia c. 277 BC. Strabo says the Tectosagii came originally from the region near modern Toulouse, in France.
Etymology[edit]
Most modern Celticists regard the tribal name Uolcae as being related to Welsh: gwalch (hawk); perhaps related at the Proto-Indo-European level to Latin falco (hawk). Compare the Gaulish personal name Catuuolcus to Welsh cadwalch 'hero', literally 'battle-hawk', though some prefer to translate Gaulish *uolco- as 'wolf' and, by semantic extension, 'errant warrior'.[2]
Now, I wonder if the word Volcae is related to the German name for people, "Volk", but that is already another question.
 

Bastian

Dagobah Resident
Now, I wonder if the word Volcae is related to the German name for people, "Volk", but that is already another question.
According to the Wiktionary :
Wiktionary said:
The French Wikipédia gives more details (translation thanks to DeepL) :
Origin of the name

In book 2 of Ptolemy's Geography, we find the mentions Οὐόλκαι Ἀρικόμιοι / Ouólkai Arikómioi and Οὐόλκαι Τεκτόσαγες / Ouólkai Tektósages. The etymology of Volcae is not established with certainty.

Pierre-Yves Lambert gives a few hypotheses: an equivalent of the Germanic *folkam (English folk, German Volk) and meaning "the peoples", an equivalent of the Greek λύκος / lúkos ("wolf") or a form of the name of the "hawk" which would also be the origin of the Welsh gwalch "hawk "7.

Xavier Delamarre does not take up the idea of an etymon meaning "the peoples" and contests the explanation by the Indo-European *ul̥kʷos "wolf" which is for him impossible, because it does not take into account phonetics and should lead to something like *ulipos in Gallic. Instead, he raises the hypothesis of an etymology by the Indo-European theme *gʷhel- / *ǵhuel- '(re)bend', hence *ghuol-k- / *ghuəl-k- the origin of the name of the "falcon "8.

The words volcos, volca would thus designate "the hawk" and are found in the personal names Catu-volcos, comparable to Welsh cadwalch "hero, champion, warrior"; Volcius; Volcenius; Volcinius; Volcacius, etc. The name is equivalent to Latin falcō, possibly of Germanic origin, and Latin falx "scythe," from the shape of the beak.

The Volcans had great influence in Moravia, together with the Boians and Cotini and other Danube tribes, they controlled a very active network of roads connected to the Mediterranean and Germanic territories. The prowess of these peoples and their proximity led to a borrowing of their name by the Germans (in the form "*Walhōz" ("*Walhaz" in the singular)) to refer to the Celts and then to the Romans following the fusion of the two cultures. This word was widely applied to all the former Roman provinces including the Welsh, Italians and French (note that Wales is Wales in the English language because of the ancient writing of the G in calligraphic W (ex: William the Conqueror = Wilhelm der Eroberer) so Welsh, Gallic but also Valois, are identical and we can compare the English Welsh, the Dutch Waal which gave its name to the Belgian Wallonia, the German welsch, the Swiss German Churwelsch (former name of Romansh, which was spoken in Chur), the Canton of Valais, the Old Norse Valr ("Roman; French"). The word was also borrowed by the Slavs (in the form "*Volśi", "*Volxъ" in the singular), who used it to refer to the Wallachians (Romanians)9 and also Valls in Catalan. The Poles applied it not only to Vlachs ("Wołosi") but also to Italians ("Włosi"). Moreover, the Hungarian name for Italy ("Olaszország") and the archaic ethnonym Oláhok (meaning "Vlachs", i.e. "Romanians") derive from the same root. The name "*Walhaz" is found in "Wallachia", "Walloon", and in German words like Welschschweiz ("French-speaking Switzerland") as well as Welschgraben ("French trenches"), formerly designating a Burgundian and also linguistic defensive barrier in the Bruche valley at Lutzelhouse.

Source :
Wikipedia FR said:

Origine du nom​

Dans le livre 2 de la Géographie de Ptolémée, on trouve les mentions Οὐόλκαι Ἀρικόμιοι / Ouólkai Arikómioi et Οὐόλκαι Τεκτόσαγες / Ouólkai Tektósages. L'étymologie de Volcae n'est pas établie avec certitude.

Pierre-Yves Lambert donne quelques hypothèses : un équivalent du germanique *folkam (anglais folk, allemand Volk) et signifiant « les peuplades », un équivalent du grec λύκος / lúkos (« loup ») ou encore une forme du nom du « faucon » qui serait également l'origine du gallois gwalch « faucon »7.

Xavier Delamarre ne reprend pas l'idée d'un étymon signifiant « les peuplades » et conteste l'explication par l'indo-européen *ul̥kʷos « loup » qui est pour lui impossible, car ne tient pas compte de la phonétique et devrait aboutir à quelque chose comme *ulipos en gaulois. Il évoque par contre l'hypothèse d'une étymologie par le thème indo-européen *gʷhel- / *ǵhuel- '(re)courber', d'où *ghuol-k- / *ghuəl-k- à l'origine du nom du « faucon »8.

Les mots volcos, volca désigneraient donc « le faucon » et on les retrouve dans les noms de personnes Catu-volcos, comparable au gallois cadwalch « héros, champion, guerrier » ; Volcius ; Volcenius ; Volcinius ; Volcacius, etc. Le nom est équivalent du latin falcō, possiblement d'origine germanique, et le mot latin falx « faux », d'après la forme du bec.

Les Volques avaient une grande influence en Moravie, en compagnie des Boïens et des Cotini et autres tribus du Danube, ils contrôlaient un réseau très actif de routes reliées à la Méditerranée et aux territoires germaniques. Les prouesses de ces peuples et leur proximité ont mené à un emprunt de leur nom par les Germains (sous la forme « *Walhōz » (« *Walhaz » au singulier)) pour désigner les Celtes puis les Romains à la suite de la fusion des deux cultures. Ce mot a été largement appliqué à toutes les anciennes provinces romaines incluant les Gallois, les Italiens et les Français (notez bien que pays de Galles est Wales en langue Anglaise à cause de l'ancienne écriture du G en W calligraphiée (ex : Guillaume Le Conquérant = Wilhelm der Eroberer) donc Gallois, Gaulois mais aussi Valois,sont identiques et on peut comparer l'anglais Welsh, le néerlandais Waal qui a donné son nom à la Wallonie belge, l'allemand welsch, le suisse allemand Churwelsch (ancien nom du romanche, lequel était parlé à Coire), le Canton du Valais, le vieux norrois Valr (« Roman ; Français »). Le mot a aussi été emprunté par les Slaves (sous la forme « *Volśi », « *Volxъ » au singulier), qui l'ont utilisé pour se référer aux Valaques (Roumains)9 et aussi Valls en Catalan. Les Polonais l'ont appliqué non seulement aux Valaques (« Wołosi ») mais aussi aux Italiens (« Włosi »). De plus, le nom hongrois de l'Italie (« Olaszország ») et l'ethnonyme archaïque Oláhok (signifiant « Valaques », i.e. « Roumains ») dérivent de la même racine. Le nom « *Walhaz » se retrouve dans « Valachie », « Wallon », et dans des mots allemands comme Welschschweiz (« Suisse francophone ») ainsi que Welschgraben (« tranchées françaises »), désignant anciennement une barrière défensive bourguignonne et aussi linguistique dans la vallée de la Bruche à Lutzelhouse.
 

pecha

Jedi
August 23, 2001
Ark, Laura, Terri Burns

[...]

Q: (A) What is the relation between the fourth density that we know and the fifth dimension of Einstein and Bergman?
A: Identical.
Q: (A) Why don't we know about this fifth dimension?
A: Barriers to concept imposed by 4D STS.
Q: (L) Are these barriers to the concept part of what I have been approaching in my writing - the imposition of the idea of linear time by the monotheistic philosophy and religious controls - which is resulting in so much attack?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Indeed. It terrifies people "religiously" to even think about it. (A) We know what it means that I am distant from you by 20 inches in space. I know what it means to be distant from the future by 20 minutes in time. What does it mean to be distant from something in the 5th dimension? I can't think of it...
A: Distance is a 3rd density constraint of consciousness energy grid structure.
Q: (L) Are you saying that consciousness energy is extruded into a grid structure? I don't even know how to ask. (A) Einstein, Bergman and Bargmann, were using distance to measure distance in the 5th dimension. They were not using consciousness, they were not using a grid, but they were using distance. And it was supposedly a good theory because they had to abandon it. So, none of them said anything about consciousness, yet they were using distance. So, my question is, is distance an expression of consciousness? Is there a distance from one point to another point expressed as, say, 2 million atoms? Is that a distance? What does consciousness have to do with this? How to model atoms in this 5th dimensional world?
A: As Grid.
Q: (A) Grid of what?
A: Energy.
Q: (A) What is the 5th dimension role in this grid?
A: Rim of Cylinder.
Q: (A) What is rim?
A: Surface of loop.
Q: (A) Loop. Loop in 3 D or loop in 5th?
A: 5.


[..]

End of Session

The "Rim of Cylinder" and "Surface of loop" reminds me of a torus, which is the shape of a cylinder bent into a circular shape. It sort of looks like a donut.

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thorbiorn

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
According to the Wiktionary :
This page https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Volcae gives an overview with pictures and mentions
Derived ethnonyms for Celts and Romans
The prowess of these tribes and their proximity led to their name being borrowed into Germanic as *Walhaz, a generic term for "Celt" and eventually "Roman" as the two cultures merged in time. This word has been applied widely to any former Roman provincials, including the Welsh, Italians, and French. Compare: English Welsh, Flemish Dutch waalsch "Walloons", German welsch "French", Switzerland German Churwelsch "Churer Romance" (an old name for Romansh, which used to be spoken in Chur), Old Norse Valir "Roman; French". The word was also borrowed by the Slavs, who used it to refer to the Vlachs. Polish applied it not only to Vlachs (Wołosi) but also Italians (Włosi); the same pair of ethnonyms also exist in Czech: Valaši (= Vlachs or Wallachians) & Vlaši (= an archaic denomination for Italians). Moreover, Hungarian name of Italy (Olaszország) and the archaical ethnonym Oláhok (meaning Wallach, i.e., Romanian) are derived from the same root. More examples in German as used in Switzerland include Welschschweiz "French-speaking Switzerland", Welschdörfli "Romansh Village" a historic section of Chur, and Welschgraben "French trenches" formerly a Burgundian defensive barrier. (See German Welsche.)

The name Walhaz is contained in Wallachia, Wallonia, and also, in the original meaning of "Gallic" or "Roman" appears in the word walnut and Old English Galwal "Gaul; France".
 

martina857rose

A Disturbance in the Force
August 23, 2001
Ark, Laura, Terri Burns

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.
Q: And who do we have this evening?
A: Jemmona.
Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: The first question we wanted to ask is: did the guy on our e-group, Daniel P-N, really die or was he "taken over."
A: Yes.
Q: Did he die of completely natural causes?
A: Yes.
Q: His death had nothing to do with the fact that he was researching the 11 house zodiac?
A: Close.
Q: Did it have something to do with his research?
A: Yes.
Q: Was he just not sufficiently aware of his vulnerability?
A: Yes.
Q: Okay, last time we were talking about the "M" mound in Wisconsin. You said that it was not a natural structure but that it was built for "F 353535." Could you say more about this? Was this used somehow to genetically manipulate the surrounding population?
A: Best so called lie in town.
Q: That doesn't make any sense.
A: Lay. [As in "ley" lines?]
Q: (TB) It looks like a big man laying. Is something laying there? (L) Or was it used for some kind of fertility rites? Is something buried inside it?
A: Force field generator.
Q: (L) Is it a force field generator by virtue of the kinds of rocks that are in there? Is it like rocks under a mound? {To TB} Have they ever x-rayed it to see what's under it? (TB) The whole area is a lead and zinc mining area. There's a lot of lead deposits around. Maybe they shield it, but it's supposed to be a natural formation, but the C's have said it's not a natural formation. (L) {chuckling} So maybe it's that everybody around there who "gets laid" is having some force field generator affecting them? Is that correct? Does it do something to the people in the area when they conceive children? Or do you mean ley line?
A: Close.
Q: (TB) There is an incredibly high rate of cancer in the area. Is it related to this high rate of cancer?
A: Yes. Lies are lays.
Q: (A) The cancer could be due to the lead which leaches into the water. (TB) That's true. (L) Genetically manipulate the surrounding population. Does this force field... well, yeah. Lies are lays. Ley lines, lies are lays... (TB) STS control field. (L) Is that what you are saying?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was there really a guy named Don Juan Matus who was the teacher of Carlos Castaneda?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was he a "composite person" as some have suggested?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was he a composite of several people who Carlos actually knew, as in 3rd density humans?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Regarding Michael Topper: how accurate are the writings of Topper?
A: 57 percent.
Q: (L) Was his wife his channel?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was the corruption level due to the fact that they may have engaged in rituals in order to get their material?
A: Close enough.
Q: (L) Okay, who is this "final incarnation" guy presented on Val Valerian's website? Is it really somebody who is in his final incarnation as is claimed, is it made up, or is it Val himself?
A: Val.
Q: (L) Is Val really in his "final incarnation?"
A: Best not to judge.
Q: (L) Is it a final incarnation of STS or STO?
A: STS.
Q: (L) So that is how a final incarnation of STS might think and the teachings they might present?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) What is a final incarnation? (L) Somebody who is so spiritually advanced that they don't need to incarnate anymore after this life. (A) And what happens after? (L) Well, I don't know. I guess you go to 4th density. (A) Oh. I see. (TB) Okay, George Green has dictated all these "Handbooks for the New Paradigm." He claims that it comes from some entity. Who is that entity?
A: George Green.
Q: (L) Well, these books are all over the place. Who is funding them?
A: Consortium.
Q: (L) Well, that says a lot. Okay, next: is "DOVE" really a programming key word designed to target those susceptible to New Age religious programming?
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) {Reading list of questions asks TB} M*** has dialogues with Grays? (TB) Yeah. Yeah. (L) She talks to them herself? Or she is reporting dialogues that somebody else has? (TB) I'm not sure. She presents them as ones that she's had. That is one of the reasons I quit wanting to correspond with her. She was the one who had those dialogues about petroglyphs. A bunch of Grays. (L) Is M*** talking to Grays?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is she an "agent of the Grays" on our list?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay, moving on to the next question: Are Semites a mixture of Aryan genetics and Negro genetics as I*** and I have theorized?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Once before you talked about the "mission destiny profile prior encoding" of the Semitic genetic code structure. Of course, you talked about this being done 130,000 years ago, so that's a long time. But, was that original code structure put into the genetic code of the Black peoples...
A: Yes.
Q: ... to then be spread via their mixture with Aryans - as Semites - into other races?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) What is the other part?
A: Genetic tweaking of Semites.
Q: (L) Is there something in the sub-Saharan African genes that makes one tend more toward STO?
A: Not really.
Q: (L) {Reading from list of questions.} If not, why does there seem to be a continuing effort to wipe out these groups? Is this simply karma? {To TB} This was asked once before and the response was that it was partly karmic because, indeed, the Black peoples had a high civilization and were cruel masters of slaves. Same deal with the Jews. They are reincarnated Atlanteans and the holocaust was part of the expunging of their guilt for the former destruction of the global civilization. Okay, are we near to the time of seeing 4th density Nordics among us?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Have any of us here met any?
A: Good possibility.
Q: (L) Okay, TB wants to know about the eyes of this guy she used to know, David. (TB) Yes, what was he doing when he was manipulating me some way with his eyes? Or was that just a con? Was he not doing anything?
A: Giving an impression of great spirituality that was nonexistent.
Q: (L) Does that sound right? (TB) It worked. I guess. I'd never thought about it that way. (L) Okay, now about the Pig God: what is it about pigs that makes them ideal as a symbol for the manifestation of God energy, or even as a vehicle?
A: Genetically manipulated RU 353535.
Q: (L) What does that code relate to?
A: Race underpinning tribal code structure.
Q: (L) Are you suggesting that some codon of human DNA that relates to a "tribal code structure" was spliced into an animal?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Why an animal and not a human being? Is it because the STS energy is so contractile that a pig is an appropriate receptacle?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) That's bizarre. Moving along. What sort of 4th density weapons was copper used for?
A: Mostly conduction of EM energies.
Q: (L) Now, I have a little problem with my writing. First of all, did the eruption of Thera occur in 1627 BC or thereabouts?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What stimulated the eruption of Thera?
A: Venus.
{Here I think that "Venus" is a code for the giant comet described by Victor Clube}
Q: (L) Well, about 40 years after that there was the comet cluster, in 1588 BC, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, it seems that Nefertiti disappeared from history in the 12th year of the reign of Akhenaten. He then died in the 17th year of his reign. If Nefertiti was Sarah, where was she during this five year period, if Akhenaten died going after her when Abraham/Moses carried her off?
A: Locked up.
Q: (L) So, Nefertiti is Sarah and Abraham came and rescued her somehow, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And that happened at the time of the passage of the comet cluster, between 1627 BC and 1588 BC - dramatic events which is what enabled that particular drama to take place...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So Abraham retrieved Sarah and Akhenaten went after them and drowned in the river or something?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, from 1627 BC to 1588 BC - that's 39 years - almost exactly 40 years of "wandering in the desert," so to say. So they must have escaped when Thera blew and forty years later, the comets came. What was Abraham and his crew doing during that time?
A: Bedouins.
Q: (L) How many were in this tribe?
A: 623.
Q: (L) So it wasn't multiple thousands of people as the Bible would have us believe. Okay, is Abraham the same individual as is presented as his son, Isaac?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did Sarah, known to the Egyptians as Nefertiti, give birth to a child when she was 90 years old?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was Sarah the mother of Isaac?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why did Abraham want to sacrifice his son?
A: Did not happen.
Q: (L) Who was Hagar the Egyptian?
A: Princess of Egypt.
Q: (L) Was she Sarah's maid?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was she Sarah's daughter?
A: Right nurture to.
Q: (L) What do you mean? I don't understand.
A: Sara's daughter by Akhenaten.
Q: (L) Did Abraham have a child by Hagar also, his wife's daughter by another man?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, that's pretty incestuous. Did Sarah actually get so jealous of her own daughter's child that she demanded that Abraham abandon her?
A: Close.
Q: (L) When did this tribe finally arrive in Israel and settle down. Was this after 40 years living as Bedouins?
A: Pretty much.
Q: (L) Well, I still have to deal with this King David issue. He was like a Robin Hood. Now, in another direction, what's this deal about Abraham talking to God. Is this where the whole monotheism came in?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, it started out with Abraham and his tribe. Did he have reinforcements of his Levite brothers who came and joined his tribe from Hittite land?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Are there any details of this story that I haven't covered that I ought to?
A: David was a Levite.
Q: (L) Was he of the line of Abraham?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did he come from "Hittite land?"
A: Close.
Q: (L) How many generations before he was born did his family come to the area of Palestine?
A: 5.
Q: (L) Were they relatives of Abraham?
A: Somewhat.
Q: (L) Distantly related. So, what did David do? Came along and gathered the people together?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did they, or did they not, have the Ark of the Covenant? Was this given to this group of people by 4th density?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Who was it originally given to?
A: Abraham.
Q: (L) Who gave it to him?
A: Sara.
Q: (L) Is the story of Rachel stealing the household gods from her father may have really been the story of Sara stealing the Ark from Akhenaten?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) No wonder Akhenaten was hot to follow them. He wasn't after Sara, he wanted his Ark back.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who gave the Ark to Akhenaten?
A: STS 4th Density.
Q: (L) I begin to smell a rat! We have read that David's grandmother, Ruth, was a Moabite. That story is a whole other mystery too. Okay, where does the story the Jews tell about being imprisoned, enslaved, crushed, etc come from? What is the source of this tribal memory of being in captivity?
A: Sumerian concept.
Q: (L) Okay, that makes sense. So the Sumerian contribution to the Bible stories mix is the enslavement idea. They had this ancient legend of having been genetically created to be slaves. They were servants to the gods, but not the Pharaoh. Okay, going in another direction: what was the use of the "12 mirrors" that the Chinese emperor Huang Ti supposedly used?
A: Collection of energy.
Q: (L) Were they really mirrors?
A: No.
Q: (L) Okay. They were just perceived as "mirrors" by the people who saw them, or the transmission of the information was corrupted. (A) What energy did they collect?
A: Electromagnetic.
Q: (L) What was this energy used for?
A: Power for his craft and other machines.
Q: (L) Well, where did Huang Ti come from?
A: Orion Lab.
Q: (L) And he had things that were described in the literature as robots or mechanical guys, didn't he? So those were his other machines. What did these machines do?
A: Many things.
Q: (A) I want to know... okay, they were collecting EM energy. Where was this energy coming from. I would also like to collect EM energy. Was this energy from the EM field, was it solar energy, from zero-point energy, or cosmic energy, or what? Where was this energy coming from?
A: Solar moon.
Q: What does that mean?
A: Reflected and therefore modified.
Q: (L) So that suggests the "mirror" concept of Huang Ti. Okay, previously you said that Rock Lake was not a necropolis. What was it?
A: Control center.
Q: (TB) Did Devil's Lake have the same purpose?
A: Close.
Q: (L) {Reading} The Gottschalk Rock Shelter shows the story of Red Horn Giants and the Thunderbird. What is this story depicting? What does the Thunderbird depict?
A: UFO.
Q: (TB) If we were to identify the Unidentified Flying Object, what would it be?
A: STS craft.
{After a lot more reading, I actually think that the Thunderbird and Sky serpents represented the giant comet break-up described by Victor Clube. But then, the Cs have made allusions to 4D that might include weather as warfare and comets as "craft" though not in the 3D sense.}
Q: (L) {Reading from list of questions.} The Maori origin of kites. Why did the Maori fly kites?
A: To attempt communication with Gods.
Q: (TB) Which is exactly what their myths state. (L) Which gods?
A: STS.
Q: (L) Well, we should have figured that. There's hardly been anybody else running things for the last 300 thousand years or so. Okay, going in another direction: what other names were the Danaans known by?
A: Scythians.
Q: (L) How did the Scythians get to Egypt?
A: VIA Akkad.
Q: (L) Was Sargon a Scythian?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Were the Hittites a genetically altered group of Scythians?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Where do the Scythians come from?
A: China.
Q: (L) How did they get to China?
A: From the Caucasus.
Q: (L) So, they started off from the Caucasus, went to China, and were later driven back West by the Chinese? Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Northern China or Southern China?
A: North.
Q: (L) What is the difference between Galle and Gaul?
A: Clue.
Q: (L) Do they both refer to France?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does Galle refer to Rhineland?
A: Close.
Q: (L) I discovered today that one of the Maltese islands, the one that is now called Gozo, was once called "Gaul." Is that getting closer?
A: Close.
Q: (L) You aren't going to tell me that. (TB) And you're sure it's not Sri Lanka? (L) Is it Sri Lanka?
A: No.
Q: (A) Why did Einstein and Bergman abandon their 1935 theory without following it up? Because it was wrong?
A: No.
Q: (A) Why did they abandon it?
A: Scared of consequences.
Q: (L) Scared of consequences that they saw in the theory, or scared of consequences that were externally suggested?
A: Both.
Q: (L) So, once they saw the ramifications, they must have talked to somebody...
A: Close.
Q: (A) What is the relation between the fourth density that we know and the fifth dimension of Einstein and Bergman?
A: Identical.
Q: (A) Why don't we know about this fifth dimension?
A: Barriers to concept imposed by 4D STS.
Q: (L) Are these barriers to the concept part of what I have been approaching in my writing - the imposition of the idea of linear time by the monotheistic philosophy and religious controls - which is resulting in so much attack?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Indeed. It terrifies people "religiously" to even think about it. (A) We know what it means that I am distant from you by 20 inches in space. I know what it means to be distant from the future by 20 minutes in time. What does it mean to be distant from something in the 5th dimension? I can't think of it...
A: Distance is a 3rd density constraint of consciousness energy grid structure.
Q: (L) Are you saying that consciousness energy is extruded into a grid structure? I don't even know how to ask. (A) Einstein, Bergman and Bargmann, were using distance to measure distance in the 5th dimension. They were not using consciousness, they were not using a grid, but they were using distance. And it was supposedly a good theory because they had to abandon it. So, none of them said anything about consciousness, yet they were using distance. So, my question is, is distance an expression of consciousness? Is there a distance from one point to another point expressed as, say, 2 million atoms? Is that a distance? What does consciousness have to do with this? How to model atoms in this 5th dimensional world?
A: As Grid.
Q: (A) Grid of what?
A: Energy.
Q: (A) What is the 5th dimension role in this grid?
A: Rim of Cylinder.
Q: (A) What is rim?
A: Surface of loop.
Q: (A) Loop. Loop in 3 D or loop in 5th?
A: 5.
Q: (L) Sounds wacky to me. (A) I'll have to teach them some algebra.
A: Yes. Grooving takes time.
Q: (TB) Seems pretty groovy to me. (L) Yes, but it's application that counts. Instead of giving us the center dead-on answer, very often it seems to be slightly to the left or the right so that we have to work for the solution. (TB) What did Einstein think would come out of his 1935 theory?
A: UFT.
Q: (A) I don't understand. If he saw the consequences - it was 1935 - and he thought "okay, it's a good theory and I can see the consequences," then what is the reason that for the next 20 years he was all the time working on all the wrong theories? What's the purpose of working on what is wrong?
A: Paid.
Q: (A) Well. Money? What did he need money for? (L) To live. (A) He could move to any other university and do whatever he wanted! (L) Not if the Consortium said "no." He could go nowhere and do nothing. (A) Okay. Why. Maybe he signed a non-disclosure until the end of his life.
A: Yes. And Good night.
Q:Nantucket's longest standing real estate brokerage
End of Session

its been a decade but this was an awesome Q and A!
 
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