Session 23 March 2013

grini said:
I made 3 version with the logo and I separate the sentence as mabar suggested. I tried to place the logo at the bottom, but it didn't look good, background is too dark so yin yang symbols in the logo were barely visible.

FWIW, my favorite of all the covers that you have posted is the bottom one in this post. I like the FOTCM logo near and at the bottom of the title in the middle of the book.
 
grini said:
I made 3 version with the logo and I separate the sentence as mabar suggested. I tried to place the logo at the bottom, but it didn't look good, background is too dark so yin yang symbols in the logo were barely visible.

I like the middle one (cover4-1.jpg). :)
 
Zadius Sky said:
grini said:
I made 3 version with the logo and I separate the sentence as mabar suggested. I tried to place the logo at the bottom, but it didn't look good, background is too dark so yin yang symbols in the logo were barely visible.

I like the middle one (cover4-1.jpg). :)

Agreed, C4-1 looks great! C8-1 is another that I'd vote for. Great job!
 
Davida said:
Shane said:
Here's the parable of the wise and foolish virgins:

“Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.

“And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’ Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.

“Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’

“Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

One could say, we were born into the night of day, so to speak, all the things one can’t see, inside and out, might as well be night with only the moon for light each day.

In that way, life must be a long night if your awake, but all fall asleep even the wise virgins…

Guess better to, make oil not war… drop by drop… makes the world a better place, regardless if one is going somewhere or not. osit

Though who is this Bridegroom(?) is that supposed to be son of man… are they separate or one and the same(?) Wasn’t Ulysses delayed coming home.

Some snips from ‘Homer – The Odyssey’
Minerva said, ‘… … But tell me, and tell me true, what is the meaning of all this feasting, and who are these people? What is it all about? Have you some banquet, or is there a wedding in the family- for no one seems to be bringing any provisions of his own? And the guests- how atrociously they are behaving; what riot they make over the whole house; it is enough to disgust any respectable person who comes near them."

If Ulysses is the man he then was these suitors will have a short shrift and a sorry wedding.

"I will say what I think will be best," answered Ulysses. "First wash and put your shirts on; tell the maids also to go to their own room and dress; Phemius shall then strike up a dance tune on his lyre, so that if people outside hear, or any of the neighbours, or some one going along the street happens to notice it, they may think there is a wedding in the house, and no rumours about the death of the suitors will get about in the town, before we can escape to the woods upon my own land. Once there, we will settle which of the courses heaven vouchsafes us shall seem wisest."

Food for thought…

Thank you Laura and crew for sharing

A "message" spontaneously came into my head:

(1) The Parable of the Wedding Banquet
(2) Crop circles have stopped (King's invitation to the Banquet?)

This parable is related/similar to "The Foolish Virgins" & "The Odyssey":

1 Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying:
2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son.
3 He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.
4 “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’
5 “But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business.
6 The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them.
7 The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
8 “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come.
9 So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’
10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes.
12 He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.
13 “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
14 “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”
 
grini said:
Pashalis said:
How about making the FOTCM logo several orders bigger under the headline Box and incorporate it more into the backround colours, so that it is more calm in the backround and not so prominent? Like a water mark in the backround?

I tried that and the result is below. I hope I understood correctly what you had in mind.

Well actually I meant to put that bigger logo under the headline, not under the text ;-)
 
dant said:
(1) The Parable of the Wedding Banquet
(2) Crop circles have stopped (King's invitation to the Banquet?)

This parable is related/similar to "The Foolish Virgins" & "The Odyssey":


Nice idea Dant, and if one compares the symbology of Matthew 22: 1-14 with 25: 1-13, would that mean the lamp oil of the wise virgins in some way may relate to wearing clothes fit for a wedding?
 
Pashalis said:
grini said:
Pashalis said:
How about making the FOTCM logo several orders bigger under the headline Box and incorporate it more into the backround colours, so that it is more calm in the backround and not so prominent? Like a water mark in the backround?

I tried that and the result is below. I hope I understood correctly what you had in mind.

Well actually I meant to put that bigger logo under the headline, not under the text ;-)

Oh, I see! Sorry! Sometimes people have to use paper and pencil when they are trying to explain to me something. :)
 

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grini said:
Pashalis said:
grini said:
Pashalis said:
How about making the FOTCM logo several orders bigger under the headline Box and incorporate it more into the backround colours, so that it is more calm in the backround and not so prominent? Like a water mark in the backround?

I tried that and the result is below. I hope I understood correctly what you had in mind.

Well actually I meant to put that bigger logo under the headline, not under the text ;-)

Oh, I see! Sorry! Sometimes people have to use paper and pencil when they are trying to explain to me something. :)

Ohh yes that looks nice!

Maybe you can move it more to the bottom and make it a little bit bigger?
 
Very nice work grini and ametist :)

Grini, my favorite is cover 9, although if going ahead with that one I would prefer seeing the title a little higher up so as to keep it more balanced with the logo below. But that's just me, anyway.

I also like cover 10, but find that for it to work, the contrast between logo and writings on top could perhaps be sharper?

Another idea is to have the logo on the back cover, instead of on the front.
In any case, whichever is decided as the book cover will look great, I'm sure, that starry blue is stunning.

Ametist, the image entitled "faith" immediately reminded me of how I feel when I'm doing EE. I've actually had similar images, only 3D and in color, popping into my mind during the meditation, only difference being that rather than seeing the universe as a globe, I get a sense of an amorphous something, a vastness if you will, of which I see no end "pouring" into me through the top of my head (maybe not how you would describe it, but that's how I saw it so far).
I just found it interesting to see an image that felt so familiar.
 
I don't know, right know the cover gets more and more symmetric or something is not fitting, like there is no tension anymore in the picture and three foci to look at. Eventually trying to take the title text out of the middle again as it was in the beginning and taking the logo to the right corner, just to have a small logo, or like in number 9-1? At least that's what I see.

ametist said:
I'm day late in all timezones, but here are some drawings I've made. Some of them aren't final versions yet.

There are two types of the same images, one is raster (pixels), thus more faithful to original and 'organic' and vector which are slightly simplified and sharper, for choice.

I didn't see the 'needed' list as I made them and there isn't one for every chapter, some are also loosely related to the chapter content so can be assigned at will. I'll be happy to make more if need be, but let's see if these are of any use yet..

The pdf's exceed the forum attachement limits, so here are download links for the vector ones (6.7MB)

http://www.filedropper.com/lifeisreligionvector

and the pixel ones (10.7MB)

http://www.filedropper.com/lifeisreligion

sorry if it jams someone's connection but I couldn't think of any more lightweight and easy way :(

I like "navigation" a lot.
 
thorbiorn said:
dant said:
(1) The Parable of the Wedding Banquet
(2) Crop circles have stopped (King's invitation to the Banquet?)

This parable is related/similar to "The Foolish Virgins" & "The Odyssey":


Nice idea Dant, and if one compares the symbology of Matthew 22: 1-14 with 25: 1-13, would that mean the lamp oil of the wise virgins in some way may relate to wearing clothes fit for a wedding?

Some symbols identified as:

'5 virgins' (wheat/chaff),
'oil' (fuel/energy),
'lamp' (light: knowledge {applied}),
'clothes/'garment' (bad fruit/good fruit).

OSIT
 
Pashalis said:
Ohh yes that looks nice!

Maybe you can move it more to the bottom and make it a little bit bigger?

Gertrudes said:
Very nice work grini and ametist :)

Grini, my favorite is cover 9, although if going ahead with that one I would prefer seeing the title a little higher up so as to keep it more balanced with the logo below. But that's just me, anyway.

I also like cover 10, but find that for it to work, the contrast between logo and writings on top could perhaps be sharper?

Another idea is to have the logo on the back cover, instead of on the front.
In any case, whichever is decided as the book cover will look great, I'm sure, that starry blue is stunning.

Ametist, the image entitled "faith" immediately reminded me of how I feel when I'm doing EE. I've actually had similar images, only 3D and in color, popping into my mind during the meditation, only difference being that rather than seeing the universe as a globe, I get a sense of an amorphous something, a vastness if you will, of which I see no end "pouring" into me through the top of my head (maybe not how you would describe it, but that's how I saw it so far).
I just found it interesting to see an image that felt so familiar.

Thanks Gertrudes!

Currently covers 4, 5 and 9 got the most votes/likes.

I was thinking that maybe we could also place Prayer of the Soul on the back, don't know if that would be too much.

Gawan said:
I don't know, right know the cover gets more and more symmetric or something is not fitting, like there is no tension anymore in the picture and three foci to look at. Eventually trying to take the title text out of the middle again as it was in the beginning and taking the logo to the right corner, just to have a small logo, or like in number 9-1? At least that's what I see.

Maybe it would be good to choose between covers that got the most votes and then do the rest of the work only on one cover?
 

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Thanks to all to have pulled this book together, catching up with the thread and now seeing the artwork its going to be a great book. I think this is a book that will help me enormously.

If i may make a couple of suggestions regarding the cover graphics. After Looking at the thumbnails on the forum page and then opening up the jpgs something feels slightly off to me, I like each of the options, they are all great, with the cover8-1.jpg being my preferred option, but the feeling i get is the text box feels pulled towards the bottom, even though the text box is centered on the page, it feels like it has an uneven balance, could be an optical thing. I tried lifting the text box and text more towards the cassiopaea stars which seemed to help. It could be just me FWIW.


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