Session 23 November 2024

(Cosmos) Could be one reason why the Russians have developed some of the new hypersonic missiles systems, that, at some level, some powers could be influencing things on earth in order that those new systems could be used as a convenient cover-up story for stronger comet activity on earth in the future?

A: Very possibly!

Interestingly enough, here's Putin's recent comment about Oreshnik. Probably later the full translated transcript will be available. Do you think it's a coincidental comparison? ;-)

Putin compared the impact of "Oreshnik" with the fall of the Tunguska meteorite:

"It's like a meteorite falling. We know, in history, how and which meteorites fell where and what the consequences were. This turned out to be enough to form entire lakes. Right? That's what the Tunguska meteorite led to — it's well known."

Added: Here's a longer version:

Putin - on the power of "Oreshnik":

These are quite powerful elements that are heated to a temperature of 4 thousand degrees. I don't know, you can look on the Internet, on the territory of the surface of the Sun, in my opinion, it's 5,6 - 6 thousand degrees. It is comparable to the temperature on the surface of the Sun.

A kinetic impact, a powerful impact, is how a meteorite falls. We know in history how and which meteorites fell and what the consequences were. It turned out to be enough to form whole lakes, right? The Tunguska meteorite led to this, you know.

Also here, the defeat is very serious. Everything in the center turns to ashes, decomposes into its constituent elements. And objects located at a depth of 3-4, or maybe more, floors down are affected. And not just floors, these are fortified structures. The impact force is enormous. Of course, you can add more, and it will be even more powerful. But the main thing is that the basic sample has been created, it works and works as planned by its creators.

And thank you very much for the session! :flowers:
 
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Thanks for the new session. There is much to ponder as usual.

This is good to know:

Q: (Joe) Is there a group that oversees the quorum in a sense that controls them or advises them?

A: 6th density.

Q: (L) And are sixth density, like what you said at one time or hinted or suggested, like angels or archangels in old parlance?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) It's them, right?

A realm where STS and STO are evenly balanced and where each performs a function would probably seem like a really great place compared to our realm, which is currently severely lopsided in favor of STS.
 
Here we go, Club was so rigth as the C's confirmed.

Putin compares Russia’s new missile to meteorite​


The strike power of Russia’s new state-of-the-art Oreshnik ballistic missile is similar to a meteorite impact, President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday. The hypersonic weapon is capable of successfully hitting heavily fortified targets, he added.

Moscow already has several such missiles at its disposal and has begun mass production of the advanced weapon system, Putin told a summit of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) in Kazakhstan’s capital, Astana.

“This is like a falling meteorite. We know from history where meteorites had fallen and what the consequences were. What lakes were formed,” the Russian leader said.

Putin did not elaborate, although one of the world’s largest impact crater lakes – Lake Manicouagan in Canada – has a multiple-ring structure with a diameter amounting to some 100km. Its inner ring diameter is around 70km.

The Oreshnik system also has dozens of homing warheads capable of hitting targets while traveling ten times faster than the speed of sound, Putin stated.

A massive strike with such missiles would be comparable to a nuclear one, he added. “Anything located in the strike center is obliterated into elemental particles, reduced to dust,” the president said.

The Russian military is selecting targets for potential Oreshnik strikes, Putin warned. The system could be used in retaliation against the “Kiev regime” if Ukrainian attacks against Russia involving Western-made long-range missiles continue, he added.

READ MORE: Oreshnik missiles could be used to strike Kiev – Putin
These targets could include Ukrainian “decision-making centers” as well as military and industrial facilities, Putin stated. Last week, Russia deployed the Oreshnik missile system to strike a large weapons factory in the Ukrainian city of Dneproterovsk (also known as Dnepr in Ukraine), as part of what was called a combat test. According to Putin, the strike was a response to “aggressive actions of NATO members” who back Kiev.

The Ukrainian military has recently launched several strikes against targets in Russia’s Bryansk and Kursk regions, using US-made ATACMS as well as British-French Storm Shadow/SCALP missiles. On Monday, Washington confirmed that it had lifted range restrictions on the use of ATACMS by Kiev’s troops. Paris had earlier confirmed that it would allow Ukraine to use SCALP missiles at their maximum range.

Speaking at the CSTO summit on Thursday, Putin said Moscow’s weapons are superior in several aspects to Western-made missiles. Russia is also producing much more of them than the entire NATO bloc, he stated. The Oreshnik in particular “has no counterparts in the world, of course, and I believe none will appear anytime soon,” the president added.
 
Carl) How many real living US citizens cast a legitimate vote for Donald Trump in the recent election, to the nearest million?

(Joe) Real citizens?

(L) Real citizens that are registered to vote.

A: Close to 100.

Q: (L) Close to 100 million?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And for Kamala?

A: Less than 23
This is a huge majority, no wonder why the Oligarch could not execute their wishful thinking. It is clear why Legacy Media is
in Panic mode. Imagine if 50% of Trump supporters are awaken to the MSM Control and manipulations of Public Opinions. What a wonderful world this would be.
 
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Here is some rough math to determine how many illegal aliens might be living in the US.

Per AP, 151 million people voted

Per the C's, 123 million people voted

Difference: 28 million votes!

Obviously, that does not mean all 28 million were votes from illegal aliens. There was probably a lot of dead people, votes from made up identities, simple code additions towards Kamala ect. I'm not really sure how to objectively ballpark what percentage of added votes came from illegal aliens but let's just say it was 50%, which seems conservative. I would think that TPTB would rely more heavily on illegal alien votes than other methods as illegal alien votes would be much harder to trace, and in the case of states with no voter ID laws, maybe impossible. If TPTB felt confident they could rig elections without illegal aliens, they wouldn't have made such a massive effort to get them here. So assuming I'm on the right track, that would mean at least 14 million illegal aliens voted.

But, if only 50% of illegal aliens voted, that would bring us back to 28 million illegal aliens plus children as a conservative guess.

If 75% of the extra votes came from illegal aliens, and only 50% actually voted, that would bring the number up to 42 million illegal aliens in the US plus children.

So, if the total US Population is somewhere around 350-450 million people (including illegals) and there are around 35-45 million illegals, that means 1 in 10 people in the US is a non-citizen. Absolutely insane.
 
Interestingly enough, here's Putin's recent comment about Oreshnik. Probably later the full translated transcript will be available. Do you think it's a coincidental comparison? ;-)



Added: Here's a longer version:



And thank you very much for the session! :flowers:

Could be a coincidence or not. I think it is a coincidence and Putin is simply stating the obvious fact that that and other hypersonic missiles they have result in similar types of destruction as meteorites. I think all they way back when they first announced those missiles (2018 or something) that was a pretty logical conclusion to draw including that some of those missiles might be similarly destructive as nukes:

I think it's quite natural to compare something moving from the sky at 3 km/s with a meteorite because it's simply the closest (and probably the only one) analogy known to modern humans.
 
Laura said:
(Cosmos) Could be one reason why the Russians have developed some of the new hypersonic missiles systems, that, at some level, some powers could be influencing things on earth in order that those new systems could be used as a convenient cover-up story for stronger comet activity on earth in the future?

A: Very possibly!
I'm having a bit trouble understanding the above. Is it implied in the question that e.g. 4D STS or 'The Secret Government' (3D), or both, have transmitted/planted the idea of Oreshnik and other similar systems into the Russian scientists' heads? I get the propaganda value, just wondering about why e.g. 4D STS would bother with such a scheme – to them it probably doesn't matter whether we die by a comet or an Oreshnik.
 
Could be a coincidence or not. I think it is a coincidence and Putin is simply stating the obvious fact that that and other hypersonic missiles they have result in similar types of destruction as meteorites. I think all they way back when they first announced those missiles (2018 or something) that was a pretty logical conclusion to draw including that some of those missiles might be similarly destructive as nukes:

And all the way back they announced a missile system that can travel about 3 TIMES as fast as Oreshnik! And as far as I know they haven’t used that missile on the battlefield yet. They probably are also aware that if you approach comet/meteor characteristics that you run the serious risk of creating secondary and probably unwanted consequences: like triggering big earthquakes.
 
(Cosmos) Could be one reason why the Russians have developed some of the new hypersonic missiles systems, that, at some level, some powers could be influencing things on earth in order that those new systems could be used as a convenient cover-up story for stronger comet activity on earth in the future?

A: Very possibly!
I'm having a bit trouble understanding the above. Is it implied in the question that e.g. 4D STS or 'The Secret Government' (3D), or both, have transmitted/planted the idea of Oreshnik and other similar systems into the Russian scientists' heads? I get the propaganda value, just wondering about why e.g. 4D STS would bother with such a scheme – to them it probably doesn't matter whether we die by a comet or an Oreshnik.

First, you can find some of the background behind the question starting with this post in the "Putin Recognizes Donbass..." thread and the discussions over several pages afterward, including this and that post. And in this older post in the same thread.

Secondly, what follows below is hopefully a clearer explanation of the question itself and the context:

Am I saying the Russians developed these weapons as a cover for comet activity? No, not really. But that it might be a possibility at some level. Which level that might be was purposely not specified in the question because there are many possibilities, including Putin himself on a conscious level (which I tend to doubt, but might be possible). For example, some forces might be influencing things on earth in a general sense (both sides, even) for quite a while now in order to force actors on earth to invent weapons that could be used as a convenient cover-up story in case comet type impacts in the future need to be disguised as “human caused“. If you zoom out wide enough, you could even argue that the development of atomic bombs might have been part of such a “plan“. Especially if you combine it with hypersonic capabilities. From such a perspective, you could even argue that the development of things like drones and Starlink satellites might be infused at some level in order to disguise real UFO activity more effectively in the future. And not only disguising it, but making it less likely that people in general think about real UFOs being an explanation for some of the things they see in the sky, because it is, well, “probably just a drone“ and look away and don’t think much about it.

Am I saying that some other powers influenced the Russians to develop those weapons? No, not really. What I tried to get at with the question was not necessarily specifically that the Russians were influenced but more like the grand scheme of developments on earth in general, of which one more or less natural and logical result, could be, that the Russians are forced to develop weapons that behave at least partly pretty comet like (especially in the eyes of the uniformed). What forces that might be was left pretty open on purpose because there might be many possibilities. If I could bet, then I would bet on some pretty high 3D level, possibly even partly 4D in nature.

Also, the answer “Very possibly!“ doesn’t necessarily mean “yes“, just that it might “very possibly!“ be the case. It could also not be the case.

Victor Clube's comment that Laura and others brought up quite a number of times a while ago, and I always found pretty interesting and curious, was basically the initial idea that informed this question from my side:

it has taken the Space Age to revive the Platonist voice of reason but it emerges this time within a modern anti-fundamentalist, anti-apocalyptic tradition over which governments may, as before, be unable to exercise control...

Cynics (or modern sophists), in other words, would say that we do not need the celestial threat to disguise Cold War intentions: rather we need the Cold War to disguise celestial intentions...!

And if what we are seeing now doesn’t look like a Cold War 2.0 on steroids, I don’t know what is!
So, from that standpoint we really wouldn’t have needed that question or the answer from the C‘s because we would pretty much have come to the same conclusion: that it is “very possibly!“ the case. It is kind of a no-brainer that this would likely be the case given what we know: For example, apparently the fact, that conventional rocket launches (well before the official unveiling of Russian hypersonic missiles) have already been used in occasions in the past to cover comet type happenings in earths atmosphere and/or impacts (according to the C‘s). If anything, those new missiles could make such cover-up attempts even easier.
 
Well, the quorum came up with the idea that they could just screw them over in an even bigger and more egregious way (like assassinating Trump) and thereby make people aware of what is being done and create the resistance and more balance. But then 6D ran that scenario and concluded that the people will ultimately just suck that one up too, and just make the imbalance worse! So it was nixed pending a more suitable violation of free will that will, hopefully, wake people up a bit.

I think the first part’s right: that the plan was to assassinate Trump and violate everyone’s free will, because the baddies would get what they want and progress their plans, but I think that at the same time it would also create more resistance and at another level/at the same time, was meant to.

So they didn’t change the plan because they saw that it wouldn’t have worked and people would have just sucked it up. It would have worked, but it would have brought on such negative consequences for STS that they would have degaussed themselves.

What if the quorum decided that by having the assassination attempt fail instead, they could on the one hand wake people up a bit in a way that preserved what the majority actually wanted (therefore honouring free will and not degaussing themselves), and on the other hand still proceed with nefarious plans because Trump would interpret what happened as divine intervention (changing Trump’s inner programming too) and however he has acted since then, and now and in the future, will itself fulfil the STS agenda?

This last part is me trying to factor in his cabinet picks. Why did we have a session and not ask something about those? :huh:
 
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